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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, thank you very much for downloading this special

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Speaker 1: Ricky Gervas interview. This is Christian O'Connell from the Breakfast

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Speaker 1: Show on Gold one. I four point three been chat

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Speaker 1: to Ricky a very long time. Always one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite guests. Always interesting, always makes you think, always very funny.

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Speaker 1: I love this chat. It was strange because I'm the

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Speaker 1: other side of the world. He's the other side of

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Speaker 1: the world, and it's nighttime in the UK, morning time

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Speaker 1: on the Breakfast Show here in Australia. But here is

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Speaker 1: the unedited full interview. Does contain some strong language, but

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Speaker 1: it's Ricky Gervas. What do you expect if you're downloading

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Speaker 1: this you're a fan? I hope you enjoy this. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is so weird. So are you

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Speaker 1: at home right now? Because I've interviewed you, what about

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Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen years, but you've normally been sat opposite

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Speaker 1: me in a radio studio and you're now in your home.

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Speaker 2: I am in my little office in my house in Hampstead.

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Speaker 2: I'm always nervous talking to you because I never heard

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Speaker 2: you're actually recording it or not.

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Speaker 3: Damn it.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping that I could move to the other

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Speaker 1: side of the world and leave that shame behind me.

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Speaker 1: How how dare you start? How do you start smearing

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Speaker 1: my good name? I'm building up bit by bit over here. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm doing really well, actually, mate, Yeah, I'm really really

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Speaker 1: enjoying it.

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Speaker 3: It's very very good.

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Speaker 1: It's it's also interesting being the other side of the

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Speaker 1: world and seeing the reaction to afterlife. So tell me

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Speaker 1: about how how did the how did the ideas start?

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Speaker 2: When it started, I was on tour. It was like

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Speaker 2: so March twenty seventeen, I was I was touring. I

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Speaker 2: found guilty that I was only doing like an hour

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Speaker 2: a work at night, and and I thought I should

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Speaker 2: probably do another show. And the first the seed of

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Speaker 2: the idea was imagine if you lost everything and you

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Speaker 2: could say what you wanted, you wouldn't care about anything.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't be oppressed, you wouldn't worry about the consequences

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Speaker 2: see culture, you wouldn't care about the backlash because you'd

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Speaker 2: always kill yourself. And I thought, oh, that's that's a superpower.

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Speaker 2: And that was it, and I started writing it. And

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Speaker 2: obviously it was funny at the time. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 2: I did it for you know where I could go.

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Speaker 2: But then it started. I all my stuff is is

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Speaker 2: you know, naturalistic acting and plots. So the sort of

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Speaker 2: pathos and the drama came so naturally. It was just

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Speaker 2: there because it was a you know, I wanted to

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Speaker 2: treat it right. And then the comedy came from. I

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Speaker 2: suppose that the audience living vicariously through this man's freedom,

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Speaker 2: but you also had to feel sorry for it, so,

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Speaker 2: you know, I did. I did make sure that people

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Speaker 2: knew what he was going through, like a sort of

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Speaker 2: give him enough rope, you know, to to enjoy his

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Speaker 2: you know papers, and then obviously without without spoilers, he's

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that they say comedians can

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Speaker 1: be quite dark people. And you actually came up with

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Speaker 1: this idea. But a man who lost everything whilst you're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I suppose. I mean you get older

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Speaker 2: and you start trying to be braver and more honest.

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Speaker 2: That's all I do. Now, you know, It's not like

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Speaker 2: or make more money that all those things are brilliant,

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Speaker 2: but they start meaning this and what you start doing

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Speaker 2: is thinking, am I being as honest as I can

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Speaker 2: I can before I die? And that sounds really I

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Speaker 2: don't think it will believe that, but it's true. And

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Speaker 2: so these these ideas pushing it a little bit more

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Speaker 2: and trying to do these these harder concepts. So can

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Speaker 2: you make this funny that excites me? All anything? And

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Speaker 2: I think people a lot of people have these ideas,

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Speaker 2: but then they get none of us, and people tell

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Speaker 2: them I can't that I'm telling or people to be offended,

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Speaker 2: and okay, I don't want that, And I think, why

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Speaker 2: don't you want that? Why don't you want that? Okay? What?

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Speaker 2: Why are we second guessing what people are offended by?

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Speaker 2: And they're offended? So what some people to find it amazing?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd rather I've said it when I did

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Speaker 2: The Office, I wanted it. I'd rather The Office was

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Speaker 1: But do you think Ricky, that Netflix and the model

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Speaker 3: Testing very well. That's a pretty unique model.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you could have got this away on

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm surprised we got the

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Speaker 2: office away, to be honest, but then it was a

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Speaker 2: different time. But I've still compromise. Even though I get

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Speaker 2: Fine leadit and I do my thing, I've been lucky

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Speaker 2: with that. There's been a compromise till now because to

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Speaker 2: So you know, the viewer thig is what le's. But

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Speaker 2: now Netflix comes along and says, well, no, we don't

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Speaker 2: fear interview. We pay more and we've got more viewers

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty million people. That the biggest broadcast

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Speaker 2: in the world. I fear less than any other broadcaster,

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Speaker 2: and they've got more money than in the world. It's

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Speaker 2: like it's magical, it's a gift for me.

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Speaker 3: You like Charlie the Choco Factor.

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Speaker 1: You've got the Golden ticket exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: But other people can get the gold ticket. They're just scared.

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Speaker 2: Everyone can have the golden ticket. Walk away, do your

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Speaker 2: own thing. Don't be scared someone. They's seven billion feet

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Speaker 2: in the world. You know what point not one percent

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Speaker 2: of people liking your show to make you a millionaire?

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Speaker 2: Why do people think that they have to do some

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Speaker 2: And the more uncompromised you are, the more it travels.

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Speaker 1: That's a really interesting thing to say because right now, yeah,

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Speaker 3: They're frightened of the reaction.

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Speaker 1: They think the reaction becomes negative, reaction becomes so noisy,

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Speaker 3: They're watering down there, diluting what they want to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like given into heca It's like

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Speaker 2: he shouts louder. You start going to there, But what

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Speaker 2: is quiet, and you're doing some for the head club.

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Speaker 2: Fuck the head club. Do it for yourself and like

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Speaker 3: Can you call the next tour fuck a Heckler.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's great, Right, that's a really good nome for

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Speaker 2: a toll. So yeah, that's that. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 2: where it is. And it's not there's no secret. It's

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Speaker 2: I don't everyone could do this. Everyone could say I'm

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Speaker 2: the people that are suddenly living in a car, right,

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Speaker 2: But you've got to take that chance in life. It's

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Speaker 2: like others, we're just doing anastaff and that's fine. You'll

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Speaker 1: And tell me this then, So a lot of your work, right, Rick,

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Speaker 1: you go back to the offers and extras, and Derek,

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Speaker 3: It's not just a bunch of jokes.

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Speaker 1: There are jokes there in certain lines, but underneath that

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Speaker 1: there's something you're trying to say. But with Afterlife I

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Speaker 1: got that feeling even more because actually it changes how

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right. I think previously I did things because

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Speaker 2: that is that? Fuck the head? Cluck cluck.

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Speaker 1: You've finally got a catchphrase. I know during the show

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Speaker 1: over the sixth episode. It's interesting, right because you know

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Speaker 1: it's about grief and loss, and then that changes, it's

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Speaker 1: and happiness. Those are really really deep things in an angry,

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Speaker 2: It's the absence of pain and grief. That's all it is.

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Speaker 2: I'm eating. You should be happy because there's lots of

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Speaker 2: people that haven't got any of those things. We wind

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Speaker 2: you up? I mean, can you imagine that the people

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Speaker 2: they hear us many about the things we moan about.

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Speaker 2: It's mental, it's crazy. Ah, I mean, yeah, they are

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Speaker 2: still wings about stuff. But but yeah, the the point

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Speaker 3: And were there.

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Speaker 2: The great thing about being debt is you don't know

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Speaker 2: I suppose I have thought about it. I can't remember

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm thinking that you should be

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Speaker 2: They've already bought it to suckers.

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Speaker 1: Please let's start a rumor that you have actually bought

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. That's a great room, wasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Because that's so ment that you built us your basement,

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Speaker 3: And you know, are you going to be doing a

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Speaker 1: Because I really, really I can't impress upon you enough, right,

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Speaker 3: You need to I know how you like to tour.

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Speaker 3: How can we get you to Australia.

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Speaker 2: I've just got to do it one day. I've got

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Speaker 2: No, I'm going to go west and stop off. I'm

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Speaker 3: load of alcohol in it.

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Speaker 2: I've seen one of those and I thought it's too tasty.

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Speaker 2: But I absolutely love them. I absolutely love them. I

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Speaker 2: go online on those sort of things and look at

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Speaker 2: things like gentlemen's wardrobe that used to take I'm cruising.

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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that, and the cabinets I

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Speaker 2: love that. I was I was an antiques spare and

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Speaker 2: I was looking at canes with swords in them. I

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Speaker 2: was thinking, that's right. I mean, I really need it.

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Speaker 1: Well, when you're walking around your castle, you need to

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Speaker 1: patrol the moat with a handy Caine.

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Speaker 3: With a sword and.

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Speaker 2: Showing like lumps of meat for the alligator. Yeah, oh Jesus, yep,

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Speaker 2: mister Ricky.

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Speaker 3: It has been a joy to catch up with you again.

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Speaker 1: I really do hope soon we get you out here

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Speaker 1: and you come and bring the world tour out here.

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Speaker 3: But hey, listen, mate, and well done on after life with.

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Speaker 2: All your success as well.

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Speaker 1: Cheers man, Thank you very much, Ricky, we'll leave you alone.

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Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, it's great to talk to you again. The

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