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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation. We're down to the Jonesy Demount

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Speaker 1: of Arms for the pub test today. Dropping the COVID

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Speaker 1: fines does it pass the pub test? It almost seems

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Speaker 1: funny how we went through all.

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Speaker 2: That and the things we were fined for the government

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Speaker 2: has withdrawn more than half the infringements if it issued

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Speaker 2: over our New South Wales COVID restrictions. Many of them

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Speaker 2: were wishy washy people didn't know the rules. There's some

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Speaker 2: call to maybe drop them all. The people who are

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Speaker 2: still being fine and haven't been and haven't been told

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Speaker 2: that there's a been dropped will still have to pay

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Speaker 2: because there were some people who deliberately flouted. They went

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Speaker 2: away to their holiday homes without permission.

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Speaker 1: Without a care in the world.

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Speaker 2: That's right, and so while some people are trying to

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Speaker 2: do the right thing, that was also going on. So

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Speaker 2: not how do you feel about them all?

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Speaker 1: Well, this lady in the newspaper, single mom. She lived

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Speaker 1: in Merrickville, her boyfriend lived in the Cannory Banks down

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Speaker 1: LGA remember Lga's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first time we've ever heard of the LGAs LGAs.

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Speaker 1: And she went and bought fish and with him because

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Speaker 1: they were like literally one hundred meters apart from each other,

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Speaker 1: and then she was told that she would be able

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Speaker 1: to and then she got a thousand dollars fine. So

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Speaker 1: she's been sitting on that fine and it's caused to some.

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Speaker 2: Stress much in policing all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you were told that, you know, it just seemed odd.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of rules. People down of the

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Speaker 1: beach standing by themselves, but then at the same time

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Speaker 1: people can't see their loved ones in hospital.

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Speaker 2: That's right. Well, I don't want to give the impression

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Speaker 2: that all the restrictions have been dropped if you've got

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Speaker 2: to find everyone's fine. Now, there are still fines in place,

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Speaker 2: but a lot of them are being dropped and people

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Speaker 2: are being reimbursed if they've already paid the fines. So

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Speaker 2: how do you feel dropping a variety of the COVID fines?

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Speaker 2: Is it past the pub test?

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Speaker 3: No, it does not.

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Speaker 4: These people flouted the law and they put lines in danger,

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Speaker 4: and no, dropping those fines does not past the pub test.

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Speaker 5: As a man who's they'm saying your women your radius

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Speaker 5: sitting down on a park bench, yeah, white, but one

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Speaker 5: but the ones that were traveling out of the areas

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Speaker 5: that weren't what gives them the right to try and

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Speaker 5: spread this disease on all the other people that were

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Speaker 5: doing the right thing in their own areas. Ridiculous. People

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Speaker 5: are just so selfish.

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Speaker 4: I really think they should have been fined in the

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Speaker 4: first place because of the fact that everybody was encouraged

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Speaker 4: to get out and get fresh air at least part

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Speaker 4: of the time.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Everybody else had to do the right thing, and these people.

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Speaker 3: Break the rules, they should have to pay the fines.

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Speaker 3: My father was impallative care and I wasn't able to

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Speaker 3: go and see him, and I saw him once, and

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Speaker 3: I find it offensive that they can impose rules and

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Speaker 3: laws on one set of people and then just drop

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Speaker 3: when it suits them. Yeah, I think it does, because

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Speaker 3: you know, bad rules, go make for compliance. Do then

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Speaker 3: be good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: When people across the raditit do their family go in

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Speaker 4: and out, They had multiple people there all the time.

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Speaker 3: You did the wrong thing, you got caught. Suck it

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Speaker 3: up on paper.

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Speaker 4: My dad passed away during all that happening, and my

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Speaker 4: brother and my sister weren't allowed to leave Sydney, so

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Speaker 4: they weren't allowed to see him. They couldn't say there goodbye.

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Speaker 4: So no, I don't think people should be getting off,

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Speaker 4: especially as we all know that there were people who

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Speaker 4: did flout a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of emotion in all of them.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Still very close to the surface, isn't it