1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Now. The government this week announced more than two hundred 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: and thirty one million dollars in homelessness grants to frontline 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: and support services across the Northern Territory. When making the announcement, 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Minister for Children and Families Rob and Carl said the 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty one point three to two million 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: dollar investment over four years would support seventy five programs 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: delivered by over twenty organizations, including crisis and transitional accommodation, 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: tenancy support, day centers, outreach and New Territory wide Intake 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Service as well to help people to get the right 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: support sooner. Now joining us in the studio is a 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Salvation Army State Manager of Alcohol and Other Drugs and Homelessness, 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: Andrea KK. Good morning to you. Andrea, good morning. It 13 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 1: is lovely to have you in the studio. 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: Having me now. 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: Andrea, can you tell our listeners a little bit more 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: about the services that are provided by the Salvation Army 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to homelessness. 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: So we provide a wide range of services across the territory. 19 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: We're located in Darwin, Catherine and Alice Springs. Some of 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: the services that we provide are crisis accommodation. So we 21 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: have two crisis accommodation one here in the CBD on 22 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: Mitchell Street, another one out in Bearma in Sunrise we 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: operate Hubs and Catherine as well. That's supporting people with meals, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: showers in that type of nature. We have transitional accommodation 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: helping people for usually up to an eighteen month period. 26 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: As well as we do as sort of outreach targeting 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: people who may be sleeping rough on the streets and 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 2: trying to find them, you know, proper accommodation, maybe getting 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: them IDs, anything to help them get them off the streets. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: So that's just a small snapshot of the services that 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 2: we operate across the town and it's extensive. 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: You know, the work that the Salvation Army does is 33 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: so extensive. Can you tell me a little bit about 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: the funding that the Salvos are receiving that was announced 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier this week. 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we are very pleased with the funding that 37 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: has come through with it. This funding has not only 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: allowed us to continue some of the services that we 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: currently operate for So for example, we operate on Alice 40 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: Springs Men's program, which is a transitional housing program it's 41 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: twenty four units in Alice Springs. It's also allowed us 42 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 2: to expand some of our current services. So, for example, 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 2: are sort of outreach which we call street to homes 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: that used to be staffed by one staff member. Now 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: we're increasing to four, and now we're targeting both adult 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: and youth in that a sort of outreach, so we're 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: wadening our scope in that area. And then there's new 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: services that we're really really excited about. So for example, 49 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: as people know we operate a hub in Catherine, we're 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: now duplicating that model and we're opening up a hub 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: in Alice Springs. Many people know it as the Waterhole, 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: so now we're expanding the Waterhole to not only just 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: provide the meals, but the case management support and giving 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: that wrap around service. As well as the crisis accommodation 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: on Mitchell Street, House forty nine that actually used to 56 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: be operated by fundraising dollars for many, many years, and 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 2: this is the first time that we're actually getting it 58 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: funded through the government, so that provides stability for that accommodations. 59 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 2: That's an eighteen bad crisis ac commodation. So those are 60 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: some of the exciting things that we are really happy 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: about that the government is moving forward with us. 62 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: And when you talk about that funding, now that's stable 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: funding and the fact that you used to rely on 64 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: the fund raising to be able to operate that facility. 65 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: What's that now going to mean when it comes to 66 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: your fundraising and being able to you know, to do 67 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: more with that dollar in terms of what you actually 68 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: raise for yourselves. 69 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, so now we can you know, pivot that fundraising 70 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: dollars to other initiatives that we may want to be 71 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: focusing on. Maybe there's other types of services that we 72 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: would want to that maybe didn't fit in the fit 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: in the realm of that homelessness grant that we can 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: even expanded it. So it's allowed us to give us 75 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: a lot more options and be able to expand our reach. 76 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: So we're very very happy that we're able to shift 77 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: those fundraising dollars and look at other initiatives that we 78 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: can support the community with. 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: And Andrea, when I mean when you look at the 80 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: work that the Salvation Army does and you look at 81 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: some of those transitional programs, you look at the ways 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: in which you you support people that have you know, 83 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: that need to get into housing, Like how successful are 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: the programs that the Salvos you know, get underway. 85 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very successful. You know, we look at for example, 86 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: if we look at our transitional housing programs and we 87 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: run a couple across the territory. A lot of that 88 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 2: goal of that is that we work with someone over 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: that eighteenth month period so that they're tenant ready and 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: they know how to not only when they get that 91 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: stable accommodation, that they know how to maintain it, because 92 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: that's the most important thing. It's not so much getting 93 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: the person in that permanent housing, but making sure that 94 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: they have the tools and skill sets to maintain it 95 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: as well. So we work with those people over in 96 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 2: eight months eighteen month period and then the goal is 97 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: often a lot of them are on the public housing 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: wait lists and then they can get transferred right into 99 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: a permanent home into the public housing. So there's definitely 100 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 2: a lot of success in that space. 101 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: Now in terms of the you know, quantifying I guess 102 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: the number of people that come through the Salvos or 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: giving us a bit of context like how many people, 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: well do you think you are supporting or you know, 105 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: talk us through some of the numbers. 106 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting. We sit there and like we're 107 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: supporting a lot, and then it kind of it's a 108 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: bit sad because you don't want to be supporting a 109 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: lot because you know, you want to see people being 110 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: in a better place. But for example, in our hubs 111 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 2: and Catherine, we serve meals to easily about one hundred 112 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: and fifty people a day that are accessing our hubs 113 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: and sometimes it can be a little bit more, maybe 114 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 2: a little bits, but easily one hundred and fifty In there, 115 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: our beds and the crisis accommodation, so I said, we 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: have the eighteen bed and we have another thirty bed 117 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: out in bearma They are constantly full, always full. So 118 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's great that we're here to be supporting 119 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: the community and providing solutions and stuff like that. But obviously, 120 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: in a perfect world, I would love to see the 121 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: numbers be lower because that means that we provided a 122 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: permanent solution for people who maybe sleeping rough and in terms. 123 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: Of the work as well that the Salvation Army does 124 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to alcohol and other drugs, talk us 125 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: through some of that support work. 126 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we operate Sunrise out and bear MAUD and 127 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: we have actually both the crisis accommodation and the AOD 128 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: rehab on the same site. So it's twenty five beds 129 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: for the drug and alcohol and thirty beds for the 130 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: crisis accommodation, and so sometimes they kind of flow back 131 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: and forth, which is a good thing in that type 132 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: of sense. So sometimes some when we access the crisis 133 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: accommodation recognize that they may need that additional support. They 134 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: feel the safety, the support, and the welcome of Sunrise, 135 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: and then they'll go and talk to their case managers 136 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: that I actually think I want to go and get 137 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 2: some you know, rehab support right there, and that's an 138 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: easy transfer over to getting that twelve week program. 139 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: Well and you know, getting people, getting people clean, I guess, 140 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: getting them all alcohol or you know, helping them to 141 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: sort of to get away from some of those things. 142 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about finding out what their journey is. Some 143 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: people may be focusing on one thing that some people 144 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: may be looking at abstiness, some people may be looking 145 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: at harm reduction. So it's feeding the needs of what 146 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 2: that actual person wants and walking along them with that 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: journey and supporting them. 148 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: How big an impact do these services have a massive impact? 149 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the fact that our bads and transitional housing 150 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: programs and our hubs are constantly full. That echoes rate 151 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: there of how much a need for these services are. 152 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: And we're really grateful that the government has boosted the 153 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: funding for this because in this we now see new 154 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: community service providers that are being in the safe We 155 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: see it increase in services that are going to provide. 156 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: There's been an increase in Aboriginal controlled organizations that have 157 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: been so across the board, it's very well needed. 158 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Well, Andrea, it's great to speak to you this morning 159 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: and get a better understanding really of what that funding's 160 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: going to mean for an organization like the Salvation Army 161 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: and you know, and to hear a little bit more 162 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: about the work that you guys do. So I really 163 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: appreciate you joining me in the studio this morning. 164 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: Thank you so much.