1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Australian TV host, journalist, radio broadcaster, an Australian National treasure 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Mif Warhurst has written her autobiography Time of My Life. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: It's out now and Miff is with us this morning. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 2: Good morning, morning at Lisa. How are you going good? 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Look? 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: If I'm about three quarters of the way through Time 7 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: of my Life, I'm just loving it. Not just because 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more that music and memories share such 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: a bond, but because I just love nostalgia. And I 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: grew up also in that era of countdown mission brown 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: and individually bagged after dinner mints. So did you have 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: the special little silver serving tray, the little rectangle basket 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: with the hat? 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: Oh very high brow? 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 4: Oh yes, you were very posho. If you had that 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 4: was that was next level. You probably had a pool 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 4: in your backyard. 18 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: Right side of the tracks. 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: We didn't have a second story though, Like. 20 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: All these as soon as you say them, and it 21 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 4: is like music, And that's I guess why I wrote them, 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 4: because all my memories sort of around particular songs and 23 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: sounds like most people's. It's like it's like taste and smell. 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes you can just be transported back immediately. So it 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: was a really easy device for me to be able 26 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: to then tell my stories or. 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 5: At least even tap into the. 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 4: Memory bank, which I've got to say, yeah, as I'm 29 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: near fifty, is not so not so. 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: Flashy struggled of it. You have to ask a few 31 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: questions around the place, Yeah I did. 32 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: I had to ask a lot of friends to find out, Oh, 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 4: did what really happen? 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 5: And they're like, yes, it did. 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, It's so interesting to see your music. 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, knowledge and love evolved throughout the book because 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: you say early on people might think some of my 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: early choices are a bit daggy, and I mean they're 39 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: not because I slept in my abb of socks on 40 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: my Abba pillow. 41 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 2: Case for a long time as well. And then they're 42 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: just they they evolved. 43 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 5: And you mean my music tastes everybody. 44 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: In particularly Yeah, well, look, I. 45 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: Think you can't choose the music that comes to you 46 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: when you when you're little and the stuff that's really formative. 47 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 4: But quite often that stuff that that cuts through is 48 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: really great. And we lore so lucky to have incredible 49 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: artists like Abba that wrote the most amazing pop songs 50 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 4: but also really kind of mournful at the same time, 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 4: and really, you know, beautiful. 52 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: And we're also really lucky to have someone like the Beg's. 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 5: I think about that. I think the stuff that got through. 54 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 4: In a very mainstream way because we didn't have the 55 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: Internet when we were growing up, I think was of 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: an extraordinary quality. But it was also sort of happening 57 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 4: for the first time, and so I think very lucky. 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: But you know, for a long time I was a 59 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: bit embarrassed of my love with Kenny Rodgers and Dolly 60 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: Parton and now. 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: Warmed to behind. 62 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: You you can't do that. If I got this belief 63 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: that music gave you're a real music fan, you know, 64 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: you can have a kleptic taste and the rest of it. 65 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: The two last two gigs on to. One of them 66 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 3: was with Lisa on Friday Night was Billy Eilish. The 67 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: average age of the crowd was fourteen fourteen year old 68 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: girls and the gig guy saw before that was Kiss 69 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: three weeks ago. But I don't really care how all right, 70 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: And I just love to go to music. You must 71 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 3: be the. 72 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 4: Same, absolutely, and I think that's the one thing that 73 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 4: we can continue to do until we drop off the perch, 74 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 4: and that is enjoy watching. 75 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: Other people's performances. We're human beings. 76 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: We love to commune, we love we love to see 77 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 4: other people enjoying themselves. But we also love to go 78 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 4: with the shared purpose. And I think music's always played 79 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 4: that role for me. I get to I get to 80 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: be with my people, and yeah, I think you never 81 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: lose that, hopefully. 82 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you say in the book something that I really liked. 83 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: There is no such thing when it comes to music 84 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: as guilty pleasures. 85 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: There is just pleasures, just. 86 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 5: Pleasures, like what you like and it doesn't matter, you know. 87 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: And that's what I really learned, because you know, I 88 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: worked in a lot of radio and print media, and 89 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: it was a time when people were very serious about 90 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: their music. Saw the figures all the you know, if 91 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 4: you like this, that's terrible, And I like this, and 92 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: that's the best the world. And I think as I've 93 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 4: gotten I realized I don't need to identify myself by 94 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: the type of music that I like anymore, because that's 95 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: what happens when you get older. You don't need it 96 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 4: to sort of communicate who you are. So you can 97 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 4: like whatever you like, you know, and if it gives 98 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: you pleasure, then that is absolutely fine, and it might 99 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: not be someone else's taste, but you know, Kenny and 100 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: Dolly may not be someone else's taste. 101 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: But it's fine and I'm happy for it. 102 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you've gotta love it. 103 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 5: Hope. 104 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 3: If everyone asked Lisa and I, who are the grumpiest interviews? 105 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: I want to know who you've met, But the grumpy 106 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: interviews you must have had a few, and you're a 107 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: very lovable person. But there are some where you just go, 108 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 3: this person's really hard work. 109 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Well, there were a couple speaking of you know, 110 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 4: sort of older folk who kind of would would say 111 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: that this is what we're in true and nothing else matters. 112 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: Kind of thing. I think that I can't mention a 113 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 5: name because but I had a I had a. 114 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 4: Rock and roller who's he was very much responsible for 115 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: starting punk rock and roll here in Australia who came 116 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 4: on Spects and he was divine off camera, like just gorgeous, 117 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 4: really nice having you know, we had a great chat 118 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: and then the cameras came on and then nothing gave me. 119 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: I was just like, you'd be lulled into a false 120 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: sense of security, just play your punk. 121 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: I had a similar problem. I wonder if it's the 122 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 3: same person. 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: I wonder if it is the same problem at the 124 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: other end of the scale. 125 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 5: He had he had to keep his act up as well, 126 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 5: So all power to him. 127 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the stick at the other end of the scale. 128 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: Something that Clarsy and I talk about often and we 129 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: all share in common, is, you know, how if we 130 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: could have told our teenage selves about some of our 131 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: music idols that one day we'd get to meet an 132 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: interview because of our job, our teenage minds would. 133 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: Have, you know, just lost there. We would have lost 134 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: our tidy minds. What is top? I know you've got 135 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: a lot of those stories too. What's the top of 136 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: the list of those experiences for you? 137 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 5: Oh? My goodness. 138 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 4: I think look sitting in a hotel room with ac 139 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: DC and like growing up listening to having older brothers 140 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: and listening to Back in Black when that record came out, 141 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: and then being so excited to think that I'd be 142 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: in New York City interviewing ac DC at the top 143 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 4: of the Sony Building, and you know that was that 144 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: was a pretty oh my god moment. So the other 145 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 4: a couple of months ago. This is funny because I 146 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: opened the book talking about how when I was really little, 147 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: I kissed the television when Darryl Braithwaite. 148 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 5: Was on SMI she and it was obviously one of 149 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: my formative musical loves. 150 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 4: I'm not, I think, because Darryl looked amazing, but also 151 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: he I thought he was singing about. 152 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: Cricket and I had all the brothers. Of course, it 153 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 5: was my two loves at the time. 154 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: Anyway, he actually contributed to a podcast talking about the 155 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: success of Horses, the song that is now Australia's unofficial 156 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 4: anthem that he sings, and he actually called me on 157 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: the phone and that's when my little thirteen year old 158 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 4: self was absolutely friend. 159 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 5: He went, yeah, hello, if it's Darryl Braithway. 160 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: Just straight back in front of that telly with him singing, 161 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: how's that? In his point. 162 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: And the book Time of My Life You should have 163 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 3: been subtitled no One puts Me in the Corner? I reckon, 164 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: Are you a tragic for dirty dancing? Being honest? Yeah, tragy, 165 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: dirty dancing tragic? 166 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 5: Oh my god, of course I am again. 167 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: Another formative film, and the soundtrack to that movie was 168 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: amazing too, because I hadn't heard a lot of that 169 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 4: sort of fifties rock and roll, and that showcased it. 170 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: And because you know, of course, like again we didn't 171 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 4: have the Internet, that really opened up a couple a 172 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: whole lot of doors for me musically too, which I 173 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 4: think most people don't credit that movie with They think 174 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: it's just like a rom com or not in the 175 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: rock comments, it's not more like a teen sort of 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: romance movie, but in actual fact it was. 177 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 5: It was a great introduction, just wonderful songs. So yeah, huge, 178 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: and you've. 179 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: Done, You've done the lift, You've done done. Alan and 180 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: I did the. 181 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 5: Lift when we did our first inspects to it, and 182 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 5: he broke my rib. 183 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: Oh oh god, we must look this this talk of dancing. 184 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: We have to tell us about Keep on Dancing, the 185 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: two part documentary that starts tonight on the ABC, which 186 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: you hope it is amazing. 187 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: I was so lucky to do this twelve week experiment 188 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: with a bunch of bolder folk looking at how to reduce. 189 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 5: The effects of aging over over sixty. 190 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: Five and they did a dance routine and learned it 191 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: from Go to Woe with no experience at all. 192 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 5: And I'm not sure if you remember Kelly Abbey, the choreographer. 193 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 5: She used to be in E Street ba I Woman 194 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 5: and she trained these these people, they're beautiful people. I 195 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 5: had the best time. It's one of the most special 196 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 5: things I've ever been involved in. So all right, yeah, 197 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 5: I'm just really pleased about that. Well that I learned 198 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: a lot as well. Dancing's good for us. 199 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: It's good for us, kept you young. 200 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: And that starts tonight and the autobiography Time in My 201 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Life is out now. 202 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: It's just fabulous, myth Thank you for joining us, talk 203 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: to you. 204 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 5: Thanks pleasing Lisa Lovely to talk to you too. She is. 205 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: That's pretty good, isn't it. 206 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: Forgetting She's getting her She doesn't have a bathroom at 207 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: the moment, getting some work out of her place. 208 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: She's hoping she can have a shower before the book latched. 209 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: Scotty camp the whistle and say it tools down plumbers 210 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: in the background.