WEBVTT - B*TCH PLEASE! The psychology behind mean girl behaviour

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, guess who's back. Welcome to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>on Cut. Spoiler it's us.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a week off, guys, and we are so sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>but we had a little mini vacate.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually did try to.

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<v Speaker 2>Record for you.

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<v Speaker 3>We took our equipment up. It was a really big mission.

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<v Speaker 3>We failed miserably. It went to hell in a hand basket.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are back.

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<v Speaker 4>We are rejuvenating.

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<v Speaker 1>On hell in a hand's not even a saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when something goes terribly it goes to hell in

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<v Speaker 4>a hand basket, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Once in my thirty I don't want to say how you.

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<v Speaker 4>Were on The Bachelor with Nick Cummens, who had the

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<v Speaker 4>most outrageous one liners, and you're going to pull me

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<v Speaker 4>up on going to hell in a hand basket.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he was just like slide out like a

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<v Speaker 2>lizard drinking in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same thing about her and a handbasket. Also, if that's

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<v Speaker 3>completely incorrect, do not dm me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to keep on saying it don't add us.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 4>Brit said, we did bring the equipment up to Byron.

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<v Speaker 4>We had great intentions. It went terribly, terribly wrong. So instead,

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<v Speaker 4>we are well rested and here to bring you the

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<v Speaker 4>best content that your ears have Heather listened to.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what the worst part of that was, actually

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<v Speaker 3>we still put in the effort and the hours, so

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<v Speaker 3>we still did all the research. We still sat down

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<v Speaker 3>for half a day and recorded and did everything so

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<v Speaker 3>for nothing. So we wasted this our precious, precious, precious

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<v Speaker 3>holiday time trying to and I mean we just have

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<v Speaker 3>to accept defeat.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes sometimes things just don't work.

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<v Speaker 4>We did also have someone who we were interviewing and

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<v Speaker 4>I maybe didn't press record.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, it's thin Ice, Laura. It's a touchy subject and

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<v Speaker 3>it's too soon, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the first time it's ever happened. But it happened, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>with lac Efron. She didn't hit record, and Brittany's chances gone.

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<v Speaker 3>He's now dating enormy.

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<v Speaker 1>You realize you were the reason. And I'm not dating

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<v Speaker 1>zach Efron.

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<v Speaker 4>You can blame me for all your problems in life.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, guys, it's nice to be back. Thank you

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<v Speaker 4>to everybody who understood. Also, you know, we this isn't

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<v Speaker 4>our full time job. This is like a really like

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<v Speaker 4>fun extra thing that we do that we love doing

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<v Speaker 4>for you guys, and we get so much out of it,

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<v Speaker 4>but we do put.

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<v Speaker 1>The time in like it's a full time job, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not our main job totally.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know, there are definitely weeks and from

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<v Speaker 4>time to time when we find it really difficult to

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<v Speaker 4>bring you the consistency of content that you guys are

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<v Speaker 4>used to, But we obviously put all our time and

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<v Speaker 4>energy into trying to bring you two episodes a week,

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<v Speaker 4>and we just want to reassure you that.

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<v Speaker 3>We are back, baby, and what on that hate when

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<v Speaker 3>you sing so much?

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<v Speaker 2>Sing it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, on that note, I guess now we can say it.

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<v Speaker 3>We have actually looked back over the year and almost

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<v Speaker 3>year and a half we've been doing this, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were like, how many episodes have we actually missed.

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<v Speaker 1>Or not given on time? And there aren't actually many.

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<v Speaker 3>There's been a few in the last month or two

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<v Speaker 3>that might have been a little bit late, as in

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of hours.

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<v Speaker 1>And we can now tell you that that is because.

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<v Speaker 3>Laura has been insanely unwell with her second baby.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm having a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, woo, it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't get too excited Laura, No, I'm really really excited.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's it's obviously been something that's been happening

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<v Speaker 4>for a while now. There is a little part of

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<v Speaker 4>me that feels bad that I've kept it from you guys,

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<v Speaker 4>and like exactly what Britt said, I was really sick

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<v Speaker 4>with morning sickness for the first trimester. But yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen the light, the light at the end of the

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<v Speaker 4>tunnel of the second trimester. Times are good. Well, we

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<v Speaker 4>will get into some questions.

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<v Speaker 3>I have some questions for you, but I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to say, like just so you guys can understand, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's been hard because we haven't been able to tell you.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some times some days where we were recording,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is why some of them didn't get you

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<v Speaker 3>on time. Some days would be recording and Laura's looking

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<v Speaker 3>at me and I was like, oh shit, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>look well, and she'd be like she'd start with her

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<v Speaker 3>mouth and I was like, oh my god, you've got

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<v Speaker 3>to vomit, and she'd literally have to run to the bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>And there were just times she was physically like unable

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<v Speaker 3>to sit here and hold a conversation for an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and a half and I was like, babe, it's okay, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can't do it, we can't get the episode out.

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<v Speaker 3>There was this one day that we were recording and

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<v Speaker 3>I had such bad intergestion. I just kept spuburbing into

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<v Speaker 3>the microphone and then I had to spend like four

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<v Speaker 3>hours trying to edit out every single time I stopped

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<v Speaker 3>started because I couldn't breathe properly.

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<v Speaker 2>So these are the things that we've been going through.

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<v Speaker 1>It was ridiculous. But anyway, Laura, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>I know obviously I've known for a long time, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's really exciting news.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel that you can actually now share it,

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<v Speaker 1>get this weight off your shoulders?

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<v Speaker 4>Well at first day, I just want to say thanks

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<v Speaker 4>to everybody from our community as well who's been so

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<v Speaker 4>incredibly supportive, especially because, like I mean, if you've been

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<v Speaker 4>listening to Life on Cut from the beginning, then you

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<v Speaker 4>know I've been really open with our pregnancy journey and

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<v Speaker 4>that Matt and I have had a couple of miscarriages now,

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<v Speaker 4>and so that was one of the biggest reasons why

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't really comfortable with sharing it, and I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of was just not that I was in denial, like

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<v Speaker 4>I definitely was like, I'm pregnant, but I was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of in denial that maybe this baby was going to

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<v Speaker 4>stick around for a little while, so I didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to make it public and then I have to go

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<v Speaker 4>through another public conversation about miscarriage. So firstly, before I

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<v Speaker 4>get too excited and two ahead of myself, I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to recognize that I know that if there's anybody

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<v Speaker 4>listening to this episode who's currently going through a really

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<v Speaker 4>difficult fertility journey, it can be a real slap in

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<v Speaker 4>the face to hear another happy pregnancy announcement, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to say, like, I really recognize that, and

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<v Speaker 4>I know what that feels like, and so I really

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<v Speaker 4>feel I really hope that you get your rainbow baby,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I genuinely mean that in regards to like Matt

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<v Speaker 4>and I. I guess we're like fully halfway now. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's really different with your second baby, because, like with Marley,

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<v Speaker 4>I was so in tune with the pregnancy. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh today, my baby's a blueberry. Now my baby's the

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<v Speaker 4>size of an orange, it's growing eyelids.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you forget your pregnant.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I like, get to two o'clock in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, God, I've got that indigestion. Oh, that's the

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<v Speaker 4>foot in my lung.

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<v Speaker 2>There we are.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, I'm at the point in the pregnancy now where

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not talking about the glowy, gorgeous wonderfulness of pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about how like your vagina starts getting fat

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<v Speaker 4>and your nipples go black, and why is there a

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<v Speaker 4>beard growing on my stomach?

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, winder back. Your vagina gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Fat, Your vagina gets.

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<v Speaker 1>So fat, what do you mean like chubb like chubby.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like well, mine doesn't look like it yet,

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<v Speaker 4>but like low and behold at nine months, some people

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<v Speaker 4>get a really swollen vagina. It bluid like a chicken breast.

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<v Speaker 4>Just think of a really juicy chicken breast.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's move along to the hairy beard on your tummy,

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<v Speaker 3>which at the nine month mark when I had Marley,

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<v Speaker 3>I was shaving your stomach or the floppyga.

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<v Speaker 2>All of you above my stomach.

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<v Speaker 4>I really hope that there's other like pregnant women out

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<v Speaker 4>there are people who have kids who listen to this

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<v Speaker 4>and relate like pregnancy just does the weirdest shit to

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<v Speaker 4>your body.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not normal.

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<v Speaker 4>It's well, it is normal, we just don't talk about it,

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<v Speaker 4>from like growing excess hair, to losing your hair, to

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<v Speaker 4>getting a fat vagina, to your nipples going black, or

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<v Speaker 4>to your nipples getting really long, like all this weird

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<v Speaker 4>stuff happens and nobody talks about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing is, I didn't know any of that. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what you just said. I just thought you

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<v Speaker 3>had a harry stomach. I was gonna say, in a

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<v Speaker 3>fat vagina, but like that's awkward. Oh you see me

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<v Speaker 3>in a bikini. So no. But but for real, it's

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<v Speaker 3>actually nice to hear someone talk about the things that

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<v Speaker 3>no one does talk about, because I'm sure there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of women out there like me right now being

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<v Speaker 3>like what.

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<v Speaker 1>Vagina puts on way.

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<v Speaker 4>But I guess the thing as well is is like

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of the reasons well, I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 4>my assumption, but I think it's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>why we struggle so much with the changes that our

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<v Speaker 4>body goes through when we're pregnant. And that's because like

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<v Speaker 4>there's only very limited aspects of that that we talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't really talk about varicus veins. We don't really

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<v Speaker 4>talk about like fluid retention. And I think that there's

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<v Speaker 4>like this lack of preparation for just how weird shit

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<v Speaker 4>gets with your body, and like a lot of it

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<v Speaker 4>goes back to normal, A lot of it kind of

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<v Speaker 4>there is this once the baby comes out, it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like slowly gradually goes back to a new a

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<v Speaker 4>new normal, not the same but very similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a streamline.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's say, I'm no twenty year old, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's really important for women to talk about these

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<v Speaker 4>things and be open about it so that when you

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<v Speaker 4>are pregnant and shit starts going really weird, you're like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>That go from The Bachelor had a fat vagina too.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel less alone.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but absolutely, I just aren't wait for Daily Mail

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<v Speaker 2>to write an article about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I just so you guys know and heads up to you, Laura.

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<v Speaker 3>I will be asking a lot of questions over the

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<v Speaker 3>next couple of months and keeping you guys informed as

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<v Speaker 3>to the progress of Laura's vagina, Laura's hair situation. But

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<v Speaker 3>how let's tell everyone how far actually are you right now?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm twenty one weeks all right, let's do the

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<v Speaker 3>math is that five months. Yeah, it's like, well, I guess,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Twenty one weeks is like five months.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just over halfway. Yeah, okay, so congratulations on keeping

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<v Speaker 3>that a secret. God knows how you have done that.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like watching your progress, I don't feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you popped until.

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<v Speaker 1>Like really recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, it's been pretty easy to keep it under wraps.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, one, it was isolation, so like no one

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<v Speaker 4>was really leaving the house. Who it was winter, so

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<v Speaker 4>I was wearing like big baggy clothes, and like three,

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<v Speaker 4>no one.

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<v Speaker 2>Really cares about me anymore. So it's also it's really easy.

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<v Speaker 1>No they did.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some moments that Laura and I we might

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<v Speaker 3>have taken a cute photo or something. She's like, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't post that preggers. So we were trying to filter

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff out.

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<v Speaker 4>And there were actually some people, some people from this

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<v Speaker 4>community and also people who follow me on Instagram who

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<v Speaker 4>had started to tweak to it. So I was starting

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<v Speaker 4>to get a lot of messages from people saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I have a feeling that you're pregnant, which is a

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a weird thing to text someone, but they

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<v Speaker 4>were correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, to everybody who tweeked to it. Congratulations, you

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<v Speaker 3>win the Lucky Door prize. You in all right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>just wind it back to the start, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>the most important thing, and I think it really shows

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<v Speaker 3>like who's the most important person in your life and

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<v Speaker 3>who you love the most and who's the best Who.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you tell first?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so Britt says this because I told Brit, So

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<v Speaker 4>the very first person I told was Brit. Also, like

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<v Speaker 4>when I was pregnant last time, Brit was the very

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<v Speaker 4>first person I told. And then Britt was also the

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<v Speaker 4>very first person I told that I was having a miscarriage. So,

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<v Speaker 4>like you seem to be really like my point of contact,

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<v Speaker 4>my touch point for these things. Love that I told

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<v Speaker 4>Britt first, And like I said, I was in a

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<v Speaker 4>bit of denial because this pregnancy happened very very quickly

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<v Speaker 4>after the miscarriage that I had, which I spoke about

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<v Speaker 4>in one of that episodes if you want to go

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<v Speaker 4>back and listen to it. This happened really really soon after,

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<v Speaker 4>and much to Matt's disappointment, he thought he was going

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<v Speaker 4>to get a little bit more sexy time out of me,

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<v Speaker 4>but he did not. The man is very potent. I

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<v Speaker 4>kept it to myself for a really long time. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't tell anyone apart from Britt. I didn't tell Matt

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<v Speaker 4>for about three or four weeks until I was actually

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<v Speaker 4>going to have my scan. So the day I was

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<v Speaker 4>going for my scan is the day that I told Matt.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't I kind of feel bad for doing that,

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<v Speaker 4>and I Matt wasn't annoyed or anything. He understood. But

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<v Speaker 4>my reasoning for not wanting to tell him was because

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<v Speaker 4>if I had gone through another miscarriage, I didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to have to disappoint him again. I wanted it to

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<v Speaker 4>be like, a, Hey, I'm going from a scan. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna find out today if the baby has a heartbeat

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<v Speaker 4>and if everything's okay. So you're gonna know by this

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<v Speaker 4>afternoon if everything's okay. So I kind of pushed it

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<v Speaker 4>as far out as possible because I just didn't want

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<v Speaker 4>to go through that again. It's been stressful as much

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<v Speaker 4>as if there's been parts of it I've enjoyed. There's

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<v Speaker 4>been parts of this pregnancy so far. That's it's really

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<v Speaker 4>hard to enjoy a pregnancy after having pregnancy loss.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I can.

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<v Speaker 3>I can one hundred percent see both sides of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I can see why Matt would have been.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Babe, like, why didn't you tell me straight away?

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<v Speaker 3>But I can see why you after having two miscarriages

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<v Speaker 3>and you'd literally just miscarried recently, I can see why

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<v Speaker 3>you were like, I can't just disappoint him again, and

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to make sure this feeling of like

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<v Speaker 3>making sure it's safe, and I mean, you sort of

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<v Speaker 3>have to tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we spend so much time together and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>And also like Matt kind of knew because for us,

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<v Speaker 4>like the most challenging parts in our relationship that we've

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<v Speaker 4>ever had has been during my first trimester of pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 4>because I turn into a psychopathic, crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Hormonal witch.

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<v Speaker 3>I can confirm that, like angry about everything, crying about

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<v Speaker 3>things irrationally, like I just can't control. I have so

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<v Speaker 3>little patience, And normally I would like to think that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a relatively chilled person, but during the first trimester,

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel so angry and like frustrated and just

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<v Speaker 3>so quick to temper. And Matt had said to me

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<v Speaker 3>a few times, are.

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<v Speaker 2>You sure you're not pregnant?

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<v Speaker 4>Like usually when you're a bit angry, He's like, are

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<v Speaker 4>you sure you don't have your periods? And now he's like, bitch,

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<v Speaker 4>you're pregnant, Like there's something going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>So he well and truly had sniffed it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Moments where Matt was like, hey, babe, have you seen

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<v Speaker 1>where I put my hat? And Laura was like, don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just put it away where it blongs.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I know I'm close to this couple,

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<v Speaker 3>but I cannot intervene here. It's like, Matt, your hat

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<v Speaker 3>is hanging on the door. It was a lot, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as you get past that. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if other people experience it, but as soon as I

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<v Speaker 3>got past that first trimester, like things kind of go

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<v Speaker 3>back to normal and I'm not quite possessed demon, so

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<v Speaker 3>everything's good. Now you're for sure emotional, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>there was this time too that you and I were

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<v Speaker 3>like our emotions were feeding off each other, like one

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<v Speaker 3>of you would start to cry and I'd be like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm upset too, Like I was almost like I was

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<v Speaker 3>the sympathy pregnancy partner.

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<v Speaker 4>But well, this was all happening during your Bachelor Paradise stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>so it was obviously a really heightened period for you

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<v Speaker 4>as well. And then I was having my own emotional

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<v Speaker 4>stresses around this, and so yeah, we were just a

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<v Speaker 4>bundle of hormones.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys. I'm really glad we got through that together though.

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<v Speaker 3>And big question, big question from the people, are you

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<v Speaker 3>going to find out or have you found out? If

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pregnant, if I'm allowed in the delivery suite, if

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<v Speaker 3>what you're having.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>We have no idea for having a boy or a girl.

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<v Speaker 4>Mally was a surprise. I love surprises, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>that having a surprise baby. I think that not knowing

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<v Speaker 4>the gender of your baby is like one of the

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<v Speaker 4>most beautiful surprises. So yeah, I don't know. But I

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<v Speaker 4>had this really overwhelming feeling when I first found out

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<v Speaker 4>I was pregnant that it's a boy, Like I have

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<v Speaker 4>really strong boy vibes, which I never got any vibes

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<v Speaker 4>with Maley. I was like, I hope that this is

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<v Speaker 4>a human child, whereas this time I'm like, this is

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<v Speaker 4>a this is a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I must yeah, I must admit. I think, you know

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<v Speaker 1>how it just comes out.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when we started talking about it, I had

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<v Speaker 3>said I can't wait to meet him or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I had dropped the he pronoun, so maybe subconsciously

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a boy too.

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<v Speaker 4>They go, well, anyway, maybe that's enough baby chat, just

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<v Speaker 4>to like, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're gonna talk about the next four months.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll definitely not.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I might talk about my long black nipples,

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<v Speaker 4>but like that's my last week.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and I guess, yeah, I mean, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it later, but I guess we'll have a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks break.

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<v Speaker 4>Laura is in the birthday week podcasting. I'll just give

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<v Speaker 4>you a minute by a minute update.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, tell me what's been happening in your world?

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<v Speaker 1>God, nothing as exciting as that. No, we went to

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Bay. We had a great little week. It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a funny week because we were still sort

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<v Speaker 3>of working but were seming on BAK. But something really

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<v Speaker 3>cute did happen. Actually, I was saying with my girlfriends

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<v Speaker 3>and they have these two little girls that are like

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<v Speaker 3>four and five, and they watched me on the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 3>and like they obviously at five years old, they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>they don't understand it. But they're allowed to watch Arnie

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<v Speaker 3>Brittany like dating on.

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<v Speaker 4>You're this TV prince Sacy. You're like, wow, she's from

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<v Speaker 4>the DV The Magical.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, they just think I'm in the ants pants

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<v Speaker 3>because TV is so big to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Five year old.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, they've obviously understand to some extent that I've been

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<v Speaker 3>dumped twice, Like they get that I'm single.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we're at home.

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing these little arts and crafts on the table

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<v Speaker 3>together and they're like, greaty, we're making you a handbag

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<v Speaker 3>because I was going out to dinner that night, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, amazing, thank you, and they're like, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to take it to dinner tonight and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>of course I will. They're coloring away, and then a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of minutes later they put their head up they.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, they go, how do you spell single?

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<v Speaker 2>They're just making you a walking banner for you to

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<v Speaker 2>take to dinner. I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>In my heart just like skipped a beat, broke all

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<v Speaker 3>these feelings at once. Anyway, I spelled it out to

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<v Speaker 3>them across the room and the girls will like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's spelled d Pete, depressing.

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<v Speaker 1>No I was. I spelt it for them and then

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't skip a beat. They didn't look up.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were writing, they were coloring, and they were

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<v Speaker 3>just saying to themselves, we just don't want Arnie Brittany

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<v Speaker 3>to be alone. And my heart they're five and my

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<v Speaker 3>heart just broke.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, were you like the kids, you need to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to our single in your thirties episode. It could be

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<v Speaker 4>a really empowering time in your life. Okay, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>need no man.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway. It gets worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I had to take it to dinner. Then they

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<v Speaker 3>coached me through how I should walk into the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to carry the single bag and I

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<v Speaker 3>had to walk in and they coached me on my walk.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to walk like a model for like ten

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<v Speaker 3>meters and then when I hit the ten meter mark,

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<v Speaker 3>I had to start to wave like the queen to

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<v Speaker 3>people and gently say hello, Hi. That's what they said.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're like, we think that this is what you

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<v Speaker 3>need to do. This is five year old. Anyway, didn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you do it though?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you take the single bag and did you promote

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<v Speaker 3>your single them? Okay, I took this single bag because

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<v Speaker 3>they watched me walk out of the house, so like

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<v Speaker 3>take you back, yea, because I was like taking it anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>my bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I left in the car.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I get into the restaurant and I see this

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<v Speaker 3>really attractive guy. He's with his friend and I'm with

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<v Speaker 3>my two friends. And we were like making eyes at

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<v Speaker 3>each other across the table the whole night, and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, surely, like I feel like I am giving them

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<v Speaker 1>his big signals.

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<v Speaker 3>You can do that with your eyes. I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>he was giving me them back. And I thought, surely

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<v Speaker 3>by the end of the night, he's gonna come over

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<v Speaker 3>and say something or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, well like.

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<v Speaker 4>If only I had a sign like a billboard looks

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<v Speaker 4>like my bumble billboard and my single bag. No, I

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<v Speaker 4>thought he didn't come over at the end, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, you know what, if I took this single

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<v Speaker 4>bag out, I could have waved it acroround the restaurant

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe something would have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my fault, really, for not taking my new

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<v Speaker 1>handbag out.

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<v Speaker 4>Or maybe he had a girlfriend and that's why he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't approach you, because no matter if you had a

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<v Speaker 4>single bag or not, he was looking from a far

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<v Speaker 4>and appreciating but could not touch.

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe it's just this thing that assist that our

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<v Speaker 3>generation does, where we don't approach anyone in real life

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<v Speaker 3>thanks to.

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<v Speaker 4>The world of online dating.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, I just thought that was a really cute story,

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<v Speaker 3>and I love that I have five year olds even

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<v Speaker 3>on my bandwagon to find me love bless their souls.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I feel like with that sort of cheerleader behind you, like,

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<v Speaker 4>it's really a matter of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I was like, put a sign out

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<v Speaker 3>at school girls, maybe someone's dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But should we tell the people what the episode's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be about.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you don't we get into accidentally unfiltereds Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 4>do it because I just spoke for ag Okay, fucking lazy,

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<v Speaker 4>all right, So okay, we have thought a lot about

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<v Speaker 4>this episode, and we have been having this conversation for

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<v Speaker 4>the last couple of weeks. It was really spurred on

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<v Speaker 4>by what has been happening on The Bachelor and the

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<v Speaker 4>whole Irena Bella cat Fights saga, the media dramatization of

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing, and also like a lot of the

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<v Speaker 4>conversations that have been happening back and forth on the

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook group in regards to it as well. But we

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to talk about mean girls and the psychology of

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<v Speaker 4>mean girls, like not just from a top level of like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we all know the girls can be nasty

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<v Speaker 4>to each other, but really from like a deeper understanding

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<v Speaker 4>of where it comes from, why we do it, and

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<v Speaker 4>is it something that you know only other people do

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<v Speaker 4>or is it something that we ourselves are also guilty

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<v Speaker 4>of on different varying levels. So we're really gonna unpack

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<v Speaker 4>this whole understanding being girls psychology. Yeah, I do feel

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<v Speaker 4>like I've been seeing it everywhere lately, so I'm happy

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<v Speaker 4>to delve into that. And there's some really interesting research,

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<v Speaker 4>so we will get into that.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we do, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know where it's time for It's accidentally Unfiltered.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was going to sing that with you.

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<v Speaker 4>I really wish I had a singing career. Maybe in

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<v Speaker 4>a formal life I did. Accidentally Unfiltered. Guys, we love

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<v Speaker 4>this section. You tell us your most embarrassing stories. We

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<v Speaker 4>read them out and we froth them. So let's get

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<v Speaker 4>into it and we laugh at you, all right. Story

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<v Speaker 4>number one.

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<v Speaker 3>This one's so funny. I was at work and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>training really really hard to get put on full time

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<v Speaker 3>so that I'm putting in some extra effort to be

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<v Speaker 3>the best possible worker.

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<v Speaker 1>I can possibly be.

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<v Speaker 3>I've only been part time for a while now, and

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<v Speaker 3>I really want this job. It was fifteen minutes before

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<v Speaker 3>my shift ended and it was just me and the

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<v Speaker 3>boss in our tiny little office. I was quickly texting

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<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend what time I was going to be home.

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<v Speaker 3>He responds by telling me to get home asap because

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<v Speaker 3>he is down for some sex. Hell, yeah, it's been ages.

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<v Speaker 3>As I was leaving, my boss was talking to me

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<v Speaker 3>and texted me this big, long list on what he

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<v Speaker 3>needed to be done for the next week so that

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<v Speaker 3>we can be prepared for it. As I'm walking to

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<v Speaker 3>my car, I am so excited to be hanging home

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<v Speaker 3>to finally get laid and message my boyfriend in a

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<v Speaker 3>frantic state. The message said, oh my god, Yes, baby,

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<v Speaker 3>I've worked so damn hard this week and I'm so horny.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot wait. I cannot wait for you to fuck

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<v Speaker 3>me hard. I was so excited and friendshiply hyping that

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't look you I send the message to And yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I sent that straight to my boss.

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<v Speaker 1>Rip me dead? What is wrong with me? Anyway? I'm quitting, she.

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<v Speaker 4>Boss, how would you even go to work the next

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<v Speaker 4>day and be like, look, I have been putting in

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of hard work lately, imagine, and I deserve that.

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked really hard, so fuck me.

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<v Speaker 3>He would have been like, oh my god, this is

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<v Speaker 3>sexual harassment claim waiting to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Sarah, can you please report to HR in the morning. Open.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't worry about doing that least, Like, let's just scrap

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<v Speaker 3>some of those things off.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to repay me for that. I fucking lowell,

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<v Speaker 1>What a low would it be?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Okay, I really like that one. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>minus is good, but I'm gonna give it a crack. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>I was at my parents' house and I was having

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<v Speaker 4>some technical troubles with my laptop. So Dad told me

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<v Speaker 4>to bring it over, give it to him, and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>have a look. So we put my laptop on the

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen counter and I opened up the Internet. As the

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<v Speaker 4>problem that I was having was to do with Google Chrome.

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<v Speaker 4>You know how like your top five most used sites

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<v Speaker 4>come up on your home screen. Well, I had the

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<v Speaker 4>Google Chrome homepage open for a good five minutes. My

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<v Speaker 4>dad was feeling around with things, and then he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>interesting selection of websites you have here. What is torn

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<v Speaker 4>up just what a second time from porn site. The

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<v Speaker 4>second most frequented site was pornhub. At least she's got

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<v Speaker 4>a healthy appetite.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, it's been isolation. That's all anyone's doing. I was

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<v Speaker 2>curiously masturbating to themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>The dad's cool with it because he called it out,

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<v Speaker 3>which I loved because he didn't make it awkward. He

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<v Speaker 3>was like, I like what you do on their doll

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<v Speaker 3>pornab literally is one big virus. Like that's what is

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<v Speaker 3>known for sex and virus. You go there for a

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<v Speaker 3>sex and virus, not an STD. Well I laptop STD yes.

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<v Speaker 2>You just like. I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>Now she's like, hey, dad, so my computer's been infected

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<v Speaker 4>with some sort of sex spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you please fix me?

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<v Speaker 1>I would have rather paid a strange to do it

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<v Speaker 1>than my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I have.

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<v Speaker 4>I have one more, actually unfiltered, which actually comes from

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<v Speaker 4>a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're putting your hand up to me, like I was.

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<v Speaker 4>Talking to my girlfriend recently and I and I do

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<v Speaker 4>this to all my friends now. Whenever I have seen

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<v Speaker 4>someone who I haven't seen in a little while, I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I know you listen to the podcast. Give me your

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<v Speaker 4>most embarrassing stories, and nobody tells me they're embarrassing stories anymore.

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<v Speaker 4>But a girlfriend of mine, my girlfriend was telling telling

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<v Speaker 4>me about how she wanted to start using something more

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<v Speaker 4>environmentally friendly than using like tampons or pads or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And she'd bought a moon cup online. And I'm yet

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<v Speaker 4>to use a moon cup, so this is get to either.

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<v Speaker 1>But all my friends do.

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<v Speaker 4>This is all very foreign to me. So she had

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<v Speaker 4>bought a moon cup and she'd been using it. She

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<v Speaker 4>looked at the instructions whatnot, and she was like, cool,

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<v Speaker 4>we're good with this, and she wore it to work

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<v Speaker 4>this day. So she works in an office. She wore

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<v Speaker 4>I love you say, like it's an outfit.

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<v Speaker 1>She inserted it and used it at work.

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<v Speaker 2>That she wore it to work.

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<v Speaker 4>They have a unisex toilet at her office and she

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<v Speaker 4>works with loads of guys because she works in construction. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>she went into the office and it was on site,

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<v Speaker 4>so that's why it's a communal toilet, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a kind of a makeshift work side toilet.

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<v Speaker 4>She went in and she went to change her moon

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<v Speaker 4>cup and.

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<v Speaker 5>She pulled it out with such aggressive fall that she

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<v Speaker 5>flicked period blood, the whole moon cup of period blood

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<v Speaker 5>all over the all over her pants, all over the wall,

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<v Speaker 5>and all up the door.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually I want to die for her. Hang on

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<v Speaker 1>the walls I can deal with because you can.

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<v Speaker 4>Wipe that off, like the door, like right in front,

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<v Speaker 4>so she like flicked it in front and it just

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<v Speaker 4>went everywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is a prime example of why I do

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<v Speaker 3>not want us a moon car.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I still don't understand the mechanics of how she did it.

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<v Speaker 4>This is also a girlfriend of mine who needed to

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<v Speaker 4>pee so bad that she peed herself whilst running down

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<v Speaker 4>the stairs and then slipped in it and like did

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<v Speaker 4>her elbow. So she's dropped some great not drunk, not

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<v Speaker 4>drunk out of like you know, when dogs get really excited,

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<v Speaker 4>they just like pee on the spot. She just has

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<v Speaker 4>probably very very poor public floor muscles. Anyway, she has

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<v Speaker 4>some crazy bodily function stories. I am here for them.

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<v Speaker 4>Hang on, I need the end of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>What did she do?

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<v Speaker 5>How do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>She was like I had to try and clean it up.

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<v Speaker 4>She's like, but it just looked like shark week in there,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I had to try and explain to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you walk out and you're like, do not

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<v Speaker 1>go in there.

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<v Speaker 4>That's literally every time Matthew Johnson leaves the bathroom, he's like,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to renovate the whole house buy a new bathroom.

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<v Speaker 1>He cops it on this.

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<v Speaker 4>He loves it though, So guys, for today's episode, we

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk about mean girl behavior in adults because

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<v Speaker 4>it's something that isn't just prevalent when we go through school.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that everybody has experienced at some point in

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<v Speaker 4>their adult life, whether it be exclusion from another female,

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<v Speaker 4>or it be bullying at work in the workplace, or

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<v Speaker 4>it be gossiping or rumors or some other very toxic

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<v Speaker 4>way that women can interact with each other. And firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>before we fully get into this episode, I just really

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<v Speaker 4>want to say, like, bullying is non exclusive. We're not

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<v Speaker 4>saying that women are bullies and men aren't. Men can

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<v Speaker 4>be absolutely shit too, However, we do seem to express

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<v Speaker 4>ourselves in very different ways. I think men are far

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<v Speaker 4>more physical and they're far more verbal. When they are

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<v Speaker 4>angry or aggressive about something or they take issue with something,

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<v Speaker 4>they don't step away from confrontation in the same way

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<v Speaker 4>that women do. Women can be far more fearful of confrontation,

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<v Speaker 4>which means that we use and tend to use more

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<v Speaker 4>nonverbal cues when we are aggressive or when we are

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<v Speaker 4>angry about something.

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<v Speaker 3>Men are more direct, more aggressive, more verbally aggressive, more

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<v Speaker 3>physically aggressive, and their issues are resolved quicker because they

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<v Speaker 3>just come out with it, deal with their behavior, and

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<v Speaker 3>they move on. Women it's more subtle. It's very manipulative.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a slow burn. It's excluding people slowly from

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<v Speaker 3>a group. It's the whispers, it's the rumors, it's the gossip,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's because we generally don't like the direct confrontation.

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<v Speaker 3>So from everything I've read that they've just said, this

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<v Speaker 3>starts from a young age with boys and girls. You

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<v Speaker 3>can see boys fighting it out and wrestling from like

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<v Speaker 3>age five, and then you can see the girls sitting

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<v Speaker 3>in their groups and turning their backs on another girl.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think it starts from a very young

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<v Speaker 3>age and it's interesting to watch that progress through all

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<v Speaker 3>the years to adulthood because it's still very prevalent in adulthood.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think, like you know, a perfect example

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<v Speaker 4>of this, not to bring everything back to the Bachelor,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's something that we've seen very recently is the

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<v Speaker 4>physical bif that happened between in Matt and how their

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<v Speaker 4>intensity and their argument resulted in actual fight, and then

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 4>how we're seeing this slow simmering cattiness that's happening between

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<v Speaker 4>Bella and Irena and the conversation and the way that

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<v Speaker 4>they're being pitted against each other in the media, and

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<v Speaker 4>also the manipulation that kind of happens and the exclusion

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<v Speaker 4>I think is a really really big one. And this

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<v Speaker 4>type of behavior is called relational aggression. So relational aggression

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<v Speaker 4>is a predominantly female form of bullying. It's non physical

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<v Speaker 4>aggression towards another person with the purpose of bringing down

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<v Speaker 4>their reputation or their social status. One of the big

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<v Speaker 4>reasons why we actually do this to other women is

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<v Speaker 4>because by bringing somebody else down, in theory, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>way of elevating ourselves. Whether that is done consciously or unconsciously,

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<v Speaker 4>that seems to be the theory behind it. And like

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<v Speaker 4>the competitive nature of how women fight and why we

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<v Speaker 4>kind of look at somebody else and go, hmm, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't like that person, but maybe don't have a good

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<v Speaker 4>reason for why we don't like that person.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking at this, taking a deep dive and just thinking

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<v Speaker 3>back to how I was brought up and the issues

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<v Speaker 3>that I faced growing up, and I couldn't get past

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<v Speaker 3>the cult movie Mean Girls isn't that interesting. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think that there is anyone out there that wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 3>what Mean Girls is. But essentially it's like to to teenagers,

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<v Speaker 3>it's glorifying bullying and mean gol behavior because it's making

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<v Speaker 3>it look like the popular cute, hot girls are really nasty.

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<v Speaker 3>And the main quote that that I think that if

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<v Speaker 3>anyone can quote anything from that movie, it's the line

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<v Speaker 3>where she says, you can't sit with us, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that that is.

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<v Speaker 1>A prime example of female bullying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the exclusion, and that's that has gone out

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<v Speaker 3>to every single woman in the last I guess fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 3>I think. And I think that that's just really set

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<v Speaker 3>the tone for teenagers coming through for the way women

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<v Speaker 3>think it's okay to behave. And I just don't think

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 3>you could ever make a movie.

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Like that now.

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<v Speaker 4>I would like to think that that's left in school,

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 4>you know, and that women we grow and we mature

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 4>and we don't have those same behaviors. But the reality

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 4>is is like, yes, in a lot of ways, we

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 4>grow when we do mature. But when we were unpacking

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<v Speaker 4>this conversation, I was like, oh, yes, people can be

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 4>mean on social media. These people over here do this.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 4>But then when I actually started to really look at myself,

0:29:08.280 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 4>my own language, the things that I say and do

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 4>about other women, I realized, actually, this is something that

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm guilty of as well, maybe a much smaller scale,

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 4>but it made me really question where it comes from.

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 4>For example, I was I was with Matt and we

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 4>were looking through Instagram, like a few weeks back when

0:29:26.640 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 4>this conversation first started, and Matt saw a photo of

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 4>like a girl that I follow and she's really beautiful.

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 4>She's very young, she's like twenty two years old, stunning,

0:29:37.320 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, oh wow, she's really hot. And

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 4>my instant reaction to him saying oh wow, she's really

0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 4>hot was yeah, but she's only twenty two, which at

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 4>the time I didn't think anything negative of it, but

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 4>Matt was kind of like, oh, okay, yep, Like he

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 4>didn't make a big deal about it, but it made

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 4>me feel a little bit like why did I say that?

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 4>Why did I need to devalue her by instantly giving

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.840
<v Speaker 4>a caveat on why she's beautiful, and I realized that

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.760
<v Speaker 4>that actually played into my insecurities, being that I'm thirty four,

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 4>I obviously don't look like I'm twenty two, and as

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 4>a society, we really do prize beauty, we really do

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 4>prize youth. It was me dealing with my own insecurities

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 4>and projecting those insecurities on this other person, who is

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 4>incredibly beautiful, full stop, has done absolutely nothing wrong. But

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.719
<v Speaker 4>there is this competition that we feel as women from

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<v Speaker 4>time to time, whether that be on a surface level,

0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 4>as a physical level, whether it be in the workplace,

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 4>because we're competing for different roles, pitted against each other

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 4>in a way that means that there is this defensiveness

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 4>that can sometimes come out in our language, in the

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<v Speaker 4>way that we speak on a day to day level

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 4>with our friends, with our partners about other women.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a defense mechanism, isn't it. It's just this.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Idea that straight away you feel like you don't want

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.480
<v Speaker 3>to feel in your situation. You don't want to feel

0:30:52.480 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 3>like your old news, and you don't want to You

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 3>can never compare yourself to a twenty year old because

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 3>you're not a twenty year old, You're a thirty three

0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 3>year old, and it comes from a place where you

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 3>just don't I don't feel like you're enough, or you're

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 3>worried that you're not gonna be enough. And I think

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 3>that if every time that you make a comment like that,

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 3>not you, I mean the general public, myself, everyone, every

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 3>time you make a comment like that, you need to

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 3>do what you do what you did and sit there

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 3>and say, Okay, why did I why did I just

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 3>say that? So I think it's the whole conversation is

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 3>going to be brought back to really checking yourself and

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 3>checking why you've made that statement. I pride myself and

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 3>trying to be really a really good, supportive human and

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 3>a supportive friend and not gossip about people. But I'd

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 3>be lying if I said I haven't done that in

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 3>the past one hundred percent. Whether that's a generic statement

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 3>even about a celebrity like someone I don't even know,

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 3>which this is really common as well, celebrities come out

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 3>and do something or say something. I think the new

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 3>song and film clip wap with us pussy, Well, the

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 3>thing is when that first came out without even giving

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 3>myself time to dissect it.

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Think about it, critique it.

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I was just like, WHOA, that is too much. Would

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 3>not want my daughter listening to that, not want my

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 3>daughter singing that, doing that, dancing that. And then I'm

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 3>really sort of satting that for a second, and I thought, well,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 3>hang on, they're actually just really embracing their sexuality. They

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 3>are singing lyrics and acting in a way that men

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 3>have done, like male rappers have done for years. Like

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 3>the way men talk about women has been derogatory, sexualized

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 3>for as long as we can remember. But then the

0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 3>second women speak about themselves in that manner, we get

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 3>our backs up and we get on this bandwagon of like,

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 3>you can't act like that, when in fact, why not.

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:34.560
<v Speaker 1>We should be the ones that are allowed.

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:37.480
<v Speaker 3>To speak and express our sexuality like that, as opposed

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.560
<v Speaker 3>to letting men speak about us like that.

0:32:39.800 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Abby Chatford actually made a really interesting comparison with that song,

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:47.440
<v Speaker 4>and I really really agree with it. She I can't

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 4>remember it word for words, so I don't want to

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 4>miss quote or anything, but she did say, like, you know,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 4>you listen to the lyrics of wet Ass Pussy, and

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 4>then you listen to the lyrics of like from the windows,

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.160
<v Speaker 4>to the walls, to the sweat dripping down my balls,

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 4>or you bitches crawl. It's like, why do we sing that?

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 4>And that's like such a fun and okay song, but

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 4>yet there's something in us that feels like innately repulsed

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 4>by a woman taking absolute control of her sexuality. And

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 4>one of the things that we really started to look

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 4>at when we unpack this is that there's two different

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 4>reasons why this has kind of come about and how

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 4>we've been socially conditioned to kind of fall into this.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:24.360
<v Speaker 4>And it is a bit of a broad sweeping stereotype.

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to say that all women behave like this.

0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 4>It's a spectrum. We all have different aspects of this,

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 4>and nobody at all is completely perfect or has zero

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 4>internalized sexism. But one of the theories behind why as

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 4>women we feel really competitive around other women is because

0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 4>of evolution. So and this is like, this is a

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 4>real theory, guys, Darwinism. We see other women as a threat,

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 4>whether it be in a career workplace in modern society,

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 4>or whether it be for relationships or to be able

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:56.040
<v Speaker 4>to like expand our brood. And also because we play

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:59.560
<v Speaker 4>so much importance in our society on beauty and also

0:34:00.080 --> 0:34:02.200
<v Speaker 4>on youth, you know, and I look back at myself

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 4>saying exactly that about someone who's a decade younger than

0:34:04.880 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 4>myself and needing to use that as a justification for

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 4>why it makes me feel makes me feel insecure about myself.

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:11.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, with what you just said about it's evolutionary Darwinism,

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to add something to that from if

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>we're looking back to where this started, and there are

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:24.000
<v Speaker 3>studies on this, some psychologists say it's actually just hardwired.

0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Into us from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>And there are these studies of chimpanzees and apes that

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 3>have shown that the female chimpanzees actually attack and kill

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 3>other females and their babies. And this is literally to

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.880
<v Speaker 3>ensure that they get the best chance at survival and

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.360
<v Speaker 3>the best chance at living a great life.

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I know, but this is what it is.

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 3>They're like, Okay, there's too much competition here, there's not

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 3>enough room for all these females, so they kill them

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 3>and their kids, their little baby chimps. Then they even

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:55.399
<v Speaker 3>sometimes ally themselves with other males so that no other

0:34:55.480 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 3>woman woman, no other female. Now are the chimpanzee women, well,

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 3>no other female chimp will then stand a chance. And

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 3>then you throw this into our workplace, historically patriarchal society,

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 3>and it's just like, no wonder women now try to

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 3>knock each other down because we have such limited resources

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 3>and limited chances to become powerful in our workplace, to

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:25.160
<v Speaker 3>have high powered positions, CEO positions. It's known that women

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 3>have smaller chance. So it's normal and we've done it

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 3>from backing the chimpanzees. It's normal to want to start

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 3>to slowly knock each other off so that you're more

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.719
<v Speaker 3>likely to get the position. And it's crazy to think

0:35:35.760 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 3>about just kick her out of the boardroom.

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.879
<v Speaker 1>No, it's brutal. They literally just like slaughter each other.

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 4>But I mean, I guess like this is a very

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.200
<v Speaker 4>crude and rudimentary way of looking at it, but there

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 4>is some method to the madness with this. So evolutionary

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.439
<v Speaker 4>theory was one of the ways that they unpack why

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 4>women have this competitive nature towards each other. And then

0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 4>the second reason, which is something that we really delved into,

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 4>is this idea of internalized sexism. And Shameless has done

0:35:59.840 --> 0:36:02.360
<v Speaker 4>an awesome episode which we really recommend you guys go

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.279
<v Speaker 4>listen to and that's all about internalized misogyny, which is

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.759
<v Speaker 4>basically the same thing. They spocus very much on how

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 4>it presents itself in the media, But internalized feminism has

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 4>this idea we are products. Even if we live in

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:19.240
<v Speaker 4>a very modern, twenty twenty society, we are still products

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 4>of the society in which we have been raised and

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 4>of the constructs from which we are raised. And you know,

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 4>as much as things are changing and we are progressing,

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 4>there is still double standards that are uphold from time

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.200
<v Speaker 4>to time between men and women, and we still have

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 4>this idea around femininity, how women are supposed to behave,

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 4>what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable, and when someone

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 4>steps outside of that boundary of what's acceptable, there is

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.239
<v Speaker 4>something about that that's innately threatening to us. And a

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 4>really interesting and I think such an amazing example of

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 4>this is if you guys have watched the it's a

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.480
<v Speaker 4>relatively new series that's come out. It's called Missus America.

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 4>It's all based around the movement of Equal Rights Amendment,

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 4>which was in the seventies, where women will lo being

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 4>for equal rights to men. And the really really and

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.239
<v Speaker 4>the part about this series which is really interesting is

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:12.680
<v Speaker 4>the unexpected backlash that the movement received by conservative activists

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 4>who were actually led by other women. So it was

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 4>women who at the time were housewives who had very

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 4>traditional roles who saw this push for equality as a

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:25.760
<v Speaker 4>real threat to their understanding and what they'd been conditioned

0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:28.359
<v Speaker 4>to believe is acceptable. And I think we would be

0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.000
<v Speaker 4>so hard pressed in modern society to find a movement

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 4>of women in Australia or in the States who would

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 4>say that equality for men and women is not good

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 4>for women, Like I think we'd be hard pressed to

0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.320
<v Speaker 4>find people who would think that that's a bad idea.

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:45.919
<v Speaker 4>I think in modern society most women would agree that.

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 2>I should hope.

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 4>Most people would agree that having the right to vote

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 4>as a woman is empowering and absolutely necessary, and it

0:37:52.800 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 4>is exactly what we should be entitled to to have

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 4>equal standing to male gender. However, to think that in

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 4>the seventies there was a whole movement of women who

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.200
<v Speaker 4>were against this really shows that we can be conditioned

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 4>and we are products of the society that we're raised in.

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 4>So let's like fast forward and bring that into twenty twenty.

0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 4>It got me thinking, and what it got me thinking

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:15.399
<v Speaker 4>was like, when I see someone who posts something really

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:19.479
<v Speaker 4>overtly sexual on Instagram. It doesn't affect me. I don't

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 4>really care about the content like it doesn't. It doesn't

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 4>upset me or phase me. But there's something in me

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 4>that goes that's too much, like why would you post that?

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 4>And I guess it's this idea in the conversation we

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 4>wanted to have was like being really aware of the

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:35.959
<v Speaker 4>thoughts that you have and where they come from, because

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:37.359
<v Speaker 4>we're all guilty of it to.

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Some varying degree.

0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.480
<v Speaker 4>And if you find yourself slut shaming or questioning why

0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 4>someone's behaving in a way that makes you feel uncomfortable,

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:47.200
<v Speaker 4>maybe it doesn't really make you feel uncomfortable. Maybe it

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:49.360
<v Speaker 4>makes you feel uncomfortable because that's what you've been socially

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:53.240
<v Speaker 4>conditioned to think is appropriate or inappropriate, and that person

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 4>is behaving in a way that falls outside our very

0:38:56.400 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 4>rigid ideas around femininity. Well, psychology today does actually say

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 4>they support this, and they say what it is. It's

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 4>women projecting their unwanted parts onto another woman. So these

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 4>are things like jealousy, the envy, rage, anxiety, lack of confidence.

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 4>That's what that's what that is, that's your reaction to

0:39:16.280 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 4>that it's your lack of confidence and it's your jealousy,

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 4>and we're all we're all guilty. There's not one person

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 4>out there that can't say there have not been jealous

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 4>of another woman. And I can guarantee you when you

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.240
<v Speaker 4>look at someone that you're jealous of, you instead of saying,

0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:32.880
<v Speaker 4>full stop, they are beautiful, that's it, you'll say they're beautiful,

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 4>but look how much work they've done. They're beautiful, but

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 4>they've got a filter on. They're beautiful, but they're twenty

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 4>two years old. Why do we feel the need to

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<v Speaker 4>put the butt in. It's because we don't look like

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<v Speaker 4>that and we're insecure about it. Yeah, and there's this

0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 4>idea that like, by devaluing someone, it elevates yourself. I mean, guys,

0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 4>I did it this morning. So please don't think that

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 4>this is at all a rent where we're saying women

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<v Speaker 4>are shit and like we need to be better.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Like, oh no, we're both guilty of it.

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.160
<v Speaker 4>And I think it's just something that we were so

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 4>we became I'm aware of and I was like, why

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.400
<v Speaker 4>do I have these thoughts from time to time? And

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.319
<v Speaker 4>obviously I'm not someone who's going to go and write

0:40:05.320 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 4>it on social media, like, that's a whole nother ballgame,

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.919
<v Speaker 4>but I think that they all stem from the same thing,

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 4>and so being really aware of your thoughts is something

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.720
<v Speaker 4>that we think is super important and you know, questioning

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 4>why you think something. I literally did it this morning.

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 4>Matt and I were laying in bed and the same thing.

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 4>We were looking through Instagram and Chrissy Tagan, who I love, like,

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 4>I absolutely love following her. She's, you know, an awesome

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 4>mum's spiration. She's very funny and I get a lot

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 4>out of following her social media. She posted some photos

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 4>and I was watching her stories and that was like, gosh,

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 4>Christy Tagan's really beautiful. And I was like, yeah, but

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:39.920
<v Speaker 4>she's had a lot of work done. Look at how

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 4>much feeler she has. And I stopped myself. I said it,

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, whoa, Okay, I'm doing it. I'm

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 4>so grateful for this podcast topic that we're about to do.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 4>I was like, do you know what, babe, I was like,

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 4>I take that back. I have no idea if she's

0:40:53.160 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 4>had feeler or not. This is me projecting my own insecurity.

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 2>She's just beautiful. I was like, she's fucking hot.

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 4>And I wish I looked that hot, and that recognition,

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.400
<v Speaker 4>I think is something that we can all sit in

0:41:05.440 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 4>a little bit and it feels uncomfortable. And there's definitely

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 4>going to be people who are hello of a lot

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 4>better and a hell of a lot mature about it

0:41:11.600 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 4>than others, and they are a lot more comfortable in

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 4>their own skin. But I guess for me, it's really

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 4>highlighted that I do have insecurities around the way I look,

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.440
<v Speaker 4>and obviously like being in the public world has not

0:41:22.560 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 4>helped that. Like, you know, feeling like sometimes my appearance

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:30.080
<v Speaker 4>is up for public conversation has definitely fed into my

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 4>own insecurities. But I'm now recognizing how it's very unhelpful

0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 4>to project that onto somebody else. It doesn't do anything

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 4>to elevate me or make me seem better. It's just

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 4>a bit bitchy.

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.040
<v Speaker 1>What I found interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So the reason I really wanted to do this is

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 3>a it was really highlighted to me in what's happening

0:41:49.440 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 3>in the world right now in terms of The Bachelor,

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>it's just like thrown in our face. There's all this

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 3>online trolling, bullying, it's physically happening on the Bachelor. I

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 3>just found it really interesting. But when when I started

0:42:00.480 --> 0:42:02.319
<v Speaker 3>to delve into it, I just found the studies that

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 3>I was reading really really interesting, and that's why I

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 3>really wanted to share them and highlight them. And there's

0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:10.680
<v Speaker 3>this queen Bee syndrome that I stumbled upon from the

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 3>University of Arizona. There's a professor there called Alison Gabriel,

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 3>and she says that this queen Bee syndrome is real.

0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 3>It is a phenomenon, and it's about powerful women being

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 3>disliked more than normal women. And this is because they

0:42:23.080 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 3>display non stereotypical traits, so it's because they're taking men's roles.

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 3>So it's about women in powerful positions. I think that

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 3>there is a sense of jealousy if there's someone in

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:32.759
<v Speaker 3>your life that's doing really well, or if there's someone

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:36.000
<v Speaker 3>that's telling you what to do, or someone another woman

0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:38.000
<v Speaker 3>in your workplace got a promotion.

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Now, when I was reading this, there's this really interesting study.

0:42:41.480 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Talk about it is there was this female professor and

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 3>she thought, I'm just going to run an experiment. She

0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 3>had two completely different, like two completely separate classes. She

0:42:53.040 --> 0:42:55.360
<v Speaker 3>was giving the exact same information. She was talking to

0:42:55.400 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 3>them exactly the same way, all via emails. This was

0:42:58.080 --> 0:43:01.399
<v Speaker 3>their communication. All the emails were the same, but one

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 3>would go out and she was the female professor, and

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.040
<v Speaker 3>then she would change her name to a male's name

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 3>and send it out to the other group as a

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 3>male professor. Now everything she did was the same, her

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 3>language was the same, the content was the same, and

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:17.280
<v Speaker 3>the figureback that she got was actually quite negative from

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 3>all the females and her being a female professor. So people,

0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 3>even though she was giving the same content, people seem

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 3>to gravitate and like the male professor more even though

0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 3>he was giving the same content. And that made me

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 3>really think there must be some subconscious there, some subconscious

0:43:32.560 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 3>thought that we just don't want to accept and respect

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 3>that there's a woman that could possibly be in power

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.040
<v Speaker 3>and be highly intelligent and be teaching or something.

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:42.640
<v Speaker 1>It was just so interesting, But I think it.

0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Also plays into this idea of like women are held

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 4>to a much higher standard than men. If we behave

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.280
<v Speaker 4>in a way that's like emotional or heightened, where labeled

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.360
<v Speaker 4>as neurotic or crazy. You know, you see it in

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 4>politics all the time, where you see men yelling and screaming,

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 4>and you know, even recently one of like one of

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:01.800
<v Speaker 4>the Australian politicians was swearing in parliament. If a woman

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 4>was to behave like that, she would be labeled as

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.920
<v Speaker 4>just that shit ass crazy. But men can behave like that,

0:44:07.000 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 4>whereas women have to like, behave in a way that's

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 4>like that is assertive, without being viewed as aggressive or

0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 4>without being viewed as bitchy. I do think that there

0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.680
<v Speaker 4>is a very different standard for which we are held to,

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:19.560
<v Speaker 4>and so I think that that bias also plays into

0:44:19.600 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 4>account here as well. There was another research study that

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.439
<v Speaker 4>I found that was so interesting. This really played into

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 4>my own internal dialogue around this whole conversation, and that

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 4>was in twenty thirteen. There was a study that was

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 4>brought out by the University of Ottawa. This study has

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 4>been revisited bazillions of times in media and also when

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 4>referencing this type of behavior. So the professor's name was

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:43.000
<v Speaker 4>Stracive Verlaine Court, and she shows that women a program

0:44:43.080 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 4>to sometimes act aggressively or even bitually towards women who

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 4>are perceived as sexier. So the way that they actually

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:52.839
<v Speaker 4>rolled out this study is that they had eighty six

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:56.200
<v Speaker 4>different Canadian women as a subject group, and basically they

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 4>had this woman walk in who was dressed very understated

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:02.239
<v Speaker 4>in car keys in like jumper, like, nothing about her

0:45:02.360 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 4>was overtly sexualized or even overtly noticeable, and nobody commented

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 4>on her, nobody even realized that she was in the

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:13.000
<v Speaker 4>room as one of the participants. Then they had the

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 4>exact same woman come back on the second day, but

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 4>this time she was dressed in a very very sexualized outfit,

0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, a short skirt, she had her cleavage out,

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 4>and ninety seven percent of the women who were present

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:28.360
<v Speaker 4>in that case study wrote and like commented something that

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 4>was negative about that person. They had to write about

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 4>the different people who are in the room, and ninety

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 4>seven percent of them had had noticed her and been

0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 4>very negative about what she was wearing and who she

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 4>was as a person, without actually ever speaking to her

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 4>or knowing anything about her. And in this case, study

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.960
<v Speaker 4>has been held up as an example of sort of

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 4>this internalized sexism that we have towards other women and

0:45:49.480 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 4>how we can see very sexualized women as a threat,

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:56.160
<v Speaker 4>and this does then translate into the media. This does

0:45:56.200 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 4>then translate into social media as well. And I think

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 4>the really important thing to kind of take away from

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.399
<v Speaker 4>this as well in this conversation is like, we don't

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 4>want this conversation to turn into a blame shifting thing,

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 4>Like we absolutely recognize that, like it's something that we

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.719
<v Speaker 4>can all be guilty of from time to time. But

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 4>this is not like women are shit, women are bitches,

0:46:15.680 --> 0:46:17.960
<v Speaker 4>because I don't want to play into that gender stereotype.

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:20.720
<v Speaker 3>I really because we're women too, absolutely, oh my god, totally,

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:22.439
<v Speaker 3>and we are all about women supporting women.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 4>We have the most incredible Facebook community through life on

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.480
<v Speaker 4>Cut where we see the empowerment that comes when people

0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:32.400
<v Speaker 4>support each other. I actually really hate this conversation around

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:34.279
<v Speaker 4>saying that women can be bitchy to each other and

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:36.720
<v Speaker 4>acknowledging it because I think it plays into the gender

0:46:36.760 --> 0:46:39.680
<v Speaker 4>stereotype that women are irrational, women a bitchier, women are

0:46:39.760 --> 0:46:42.520
<v Speaker 4>highly emotional, and I think the more that we give

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 4>power to that narrative the more that people, the more

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:47.719
<v Speaker 4>that it sort of oppresses us from being able to

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 4>have those really high powered jobs and progress towards equality.

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 4>So I do think that there is like the antithesis

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 4>of this conversation. However, the really interesting thing I took

0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 4>away from that study, of the Canadian study was the

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 4>Professor Tracy Velaine Court had said, you know, there are

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.760
<v Speaker 4>stereotypes and then there are things that are actually true,

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 4>and there are things that hold women back from progressing.

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 4>And one of those things that holds us back is

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.319
<v Speaker 4>actually our own psyche and the way that we treat

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 4>other women. Because if we're out there calling women sluts

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.440
<v Speaker 4>or saying you know, derogative things on social media or

0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 4>wherever else amongst our friends, amongst our workplace, then it

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.760
<v Speaker 4>also allows men to use that language, and it gives

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 4>them permission to treat women in the same way or

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:33.520
<v Speaker 4>to you know, have our value based in the way

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.439
<v Speaker 4>we look. So it was more a conversation around being

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 4>like super conscious of your thoughts and like where that

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:43.040
<v Speaker 4>internalized feeling of like I don't like that person, but

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 4>not really knowing why where that actually comes from, so

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 4>that we can monitor ourselves and be more self censoring.

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 4>And then that, you know, allows us to take steps

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 4>towards going, oh, that lady is beautiful and I don't

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 4>need to put the butt in there. Just going back

0:47:57.280 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 4>as well, just going back quickly to this idea that

0:47:59.840 --> 0:48:01.719
<v Speaker 4>like we do hold women to a different standard that

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.480
<v Speaker 4>we hold men. There's something that's happened really recently in

0:48:04.520 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 4>the media, and I think it's something that's really interesting,

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 4>and that is the conversation around Chris Evans and his

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:10.839
<v Speaker 4>dick pic.

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Do we all know what.

0:48:12.640 --> 0:48:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I've seen that do pic? Of course, the whole world

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>has seen that. It went viral within an hour.

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 4>So if you don't know what we're talking about, Chris Evans,

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:27.319
<v Speaker 4>who is super hot, but yes, also he accidentally, he

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:30.800
<v Speaker 4>accidentally posted a photo of his erect.

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Penis on his Instagram Instagram story. I just want to

0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.879
<v Speaker 3>quickly interrupt because it was either an accident or very

0:48:38.239 --> 0:48:40.879
<v Speaker 3>very very clever publicity move.

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 4>The way he's come out and spoken about it has

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:46.480
<v Speaker 4>been that it was not something that he wanted to share. Okay, continue,

0:48:46.520 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 4>So he accidentally dick picked us all, like you know,

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 4>an unsolicited dig pic on Instagram is pretty aggressive. But

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:55.280
<v Speaker 4>what happened was is he posted a video. He posted

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 4>a picture of his camera roll, and one of the

0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 4>pictures in the camera roll was of his erect piece.

0:49:00.239 --> 0:49:02.560
<v Speaker 3>See if that's not the best accidentally filtered with ever?

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Chris Evans.

0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.480
<v Speaker 4>The thing that's been really interesting about the reaction to

0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:11.239
<v Speaker 4>this is that all of Chris's followers and fans have

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 4>really rushed to his support, and it's been this incredible,

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.719
<v Speaker 4>this incredible show of like, you know, he didn't want

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 4>to do that. We don't want his dick pic being

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.240
<v Speaker 4>flooding the internet. So they have been flooding the Internet

0:49:22.239 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 4>with pictures of him to try and suppress the dick pic.

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 4>So it's going further and further down Google, so making

0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 4>it harder and harder for people to fight. Now, this

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:33.800
<v Speaker 4>is exactly how we should behaving when somebody's nude photos,

0:49:33.800 --> 0:49:37.280
<v Speaker 4>al most vulnerable pictures get displayed on the internet. However,

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 4>looking back, when the exact same thing happened to Jennifer Lawrence, however,

0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 4>it happened completely against her control. Her photos were hacked

0:49:44.719 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 4>and then super intimate photos of her were released onto

0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 4>the Internet. There wasn't this outpouring of support where people

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 4>were trying to flood the Internet and stop people from

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.200
<v Speaker 4>finding the nudes. If anything, people were looking up the

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 4>nudes and trying to find them. And she got so

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:01.520
<v Speaker 4>much hate and abuse and like hideous messages calling her

0:50:01.520 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 4>a slut, calling her all different things under the sun.

0:50:04.080 --> 0:50:07.439
<v Speaker 4>I remember how big a story this was, and there's

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.400
<v Speaker 4>this conversation around is it just changing because this was

0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:14.240
<v Speaker 4>pre the Me too movement, and you know, maybe things

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.880
<v Speaker 4>have started to shift and maybe we are becoming really

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 4>cognizant of the importance of consent and how we should

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 4>treat people when their privacy is exposed. Or is it

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 4>a reflection that we do hold men and women up

0:50:25.920 --> 0:50:27.280
<v Speaker 4>to slightly different standards.

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 3>I think it's a bit of a and bit to b.

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I think we're definitely coming a long way. We are

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 3>recognizing way more our place in society, equality, how we

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:37.920
<v Speaker 3>should treat each other one hundred percent. There is definitely

0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:40.320
<v Speaker 3>that movement which is brilliant, but there's.

0:50:40.160 --> 0:50:41.160
<v Speaker 1>No way we're there yet.

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:44.959
<v Speaker 3>It's still definitely the second men show any sort of vulnerability,

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 3>we praise them. The second women show vulnerability, it's usually like, oh,

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 3>she's a bit unhinged or you know. So there's there's

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 3>still a bit of a and bit to b. Hopefully

0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 3>we continue to move forward and get to a point

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 3>where we start to protect the women.

0:50:57.400 --> 0:50:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Too when they've been leaked, for example. But this is

0:50:59.600 --> 0:51:00.879
<v Speaker 1>such an interesting chat.

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:02.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think that it is progressive. Like you said,

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:04.560
<v Speaker 4>I do think that the times are changing, and I

0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 4>think that the more we have these conversations, the more

0:51:06.560 --> 0:51:08.759
<v Speaker 4>that we're aware of our internal thoughts, the more that

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:12.760
<v Speaker 4>we're taking steps towards that level of like equality across

0:51:12.800 --> 0:51:15.000
<v Speaker 4>the board. And just to bring it back to Bachelor

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 4>for two seconds before we wrap this bad boy up, obviously,

0:51:19.400 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 4>like this season has been really weird, and I would

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm kind of actually a bit off it to be

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.600
<v Speaker 4>totally honest and transparent, because I think that by this

0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 4>point in the in the reality TV journey, they've stopped

0:51:30.360 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 4>focusing on the drama between the girls and they start

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:34.759
<v Speaker 4>focusing on the love story. But I feel like this

0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:37.520
<v Speaker 4>season it's just all been this cattiness and the bitchiness

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.000
<v Speaker 4>between Irena and Bella, and that's been like the real

0:51:40.040 --> 0:51:43.760
<v Speaker 4>conversation that has absolutely masked everything that you know, people

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.600
<v Speaker 4>want to watch The Bachelor for, which is like the

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 4>potential of a really beautiful love story. And I just

0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 4>think it's really disappointing. I mean, I think there's been

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 4>behavior that's been on the show there's disappointing, but I

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:55.840
<v Speaker 4>also think that the focus on women tearing each other down,

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:59.799
<v Speaker 4>especially off the back of Paradise bit, where we're like

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 4>the the most amazing thing that we took from that

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.359
<v Speaker 4>series was women supporting women and how empowering that was.

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.440
<v Speaker 2>I just think it's taken a few step backwards with

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:07.960
<v Speaker 2>this season.

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And look, one of the things that I'm really

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually really proud of and I wish sort of

0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 3>made more of an impact now and I thought it

0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 3>would have, is that you only have to look at

0:52:16.400 --> 0:52:18.359
<v Speaker 3>my season The Bachelor and my finale to look at

0:52:18.360 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 3>the fact that it doesn't have to be a competition.

0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Women can support women and go all the way to

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 3>the end. Sophie and I we obviously were at the

0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 3>end together, and before we knew that Nick wasn't going

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:33.399
<v Speaker 3>to pick anyone, we still were so genuinely happy if

0:52:33.400 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 3>it was going to be one of us for the

0:52:35.040 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 3>other person, Obviously we would be really upset because we

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 3>both wanted it to be asked. But there was never, ever, ever,

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:45.719
<v Speaker 3>any mean behavior between us, anything negative said to each

0:52:45.760 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 3>other about each other, to producers, to anyone else. There's

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 3>no bitchiness the whole season. And then even at the end,

0:52:52.760 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 3>the whole premise of that finale was like women supporting women,

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:57.600
<v Speaker 3>we still wanted to go and help each other. We

0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.120
<v Speaker 3>still wanted to go make sure each other okay. And

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:02.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that this is just a prime example of

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 3>the fact that you don't have to be in competition

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:09.319
<v Speaker 3>with someone. It's women go further in life when you're

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:12.359
<v Speaker 3>supporting each other. And it's actually statistically proven that women

0:53:12.560 --> 0:53:15.960
<v Speaker 3>have a smaller supportive group around them go further in

0:53:16.000 --> 0:53:18.480
<v Speaker 3>life and are more successful. This I literally read this

0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 3>this morning. I'm actually really lucky. I do have a

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:24.239
<v Speaker 3>really small group of friends, Like I can probably count

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.279
<v Speaker 3>them on one hand, to be honest, but all of

0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:29.000
<v Speaker 3>them are so supportive of everything I do, and I

0:53:29.040 --> 0:53:31.759
<v Speaker 3>genuinely feel like that's what gives me the balls to

0:53:31.840 --> 0:53:33.919
<v Speaker 3>keep trying things and to keep pushing myself. And there's

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 3>never been jealousy. There's never been anything. And I'm like

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 3>that with my friends, like I'll always put them first

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:40.879
<v Speaker 3>and I'll always celebrate their wins. And I think that

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:44.200
<v Speaker 3>when I think of like what we wanted from this conversation,

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just to a recognize that we're all

0:53:46.400 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 3>guilty of this behavior, of this type of jealousy and

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 3>maybe even just gossiping innocent gossip that you think is

0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 3>innocent can really perpetuate into something that's a lot bigger

0:53:57.000 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 3>and can really hurt someone's feelings, like words are so

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:01.719
<v Speaker 3>so powder. So I think what we wanted to get

0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:05.880
<v Speaker 3>from it was just a check yourself, check your friends,

0:54:05.960 --> 0:54:08.879
<v Speaker 3>recognize the conversations you're having, and just think about why

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:09.600
<v Speaker 3>you're having them.

0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 4>And also, just to add one last thing before we

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 4>fully wrap up, I think also be really really aware

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 4>and critical of the shit that you're reading, because I

0:54:18.719 --> 0:54:20.799
<v Speaker 4>do think that the media plays a huge role in

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 4>pitting women against each other. You know, they can take

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 4>a certain line, they can take a photo of a

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:29.320
<v Speaker 4>certain point in time, they can really fabricate this pitting

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.880
<v Speaker 4>women against each other. And an example like I have

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:35.400
<v Speaker 4>from my own personal experience is the constant pitting of

0:54:35.440 --> 0:54:38.200
<v Speaker 4>Georgia Love and myself against each other. We barely know

0:54:38.320 --> 0:54:40.879
<v Speaker 4>each other and we have nothing negative to say about

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 4>each other. We don't dislike each other, we don't know

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 4>each other, so like why would we? But from the

0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 4>very day dot of when I was on the Bachelor,

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:50.200
<v Speaker 4>the media has constantly compared us. They've said, you know,

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:52.919
<v Speaker 4>Laura Burns a Georgia Love two point zero. They've said,

0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, like that, we have been having TIFs. It's

0:54:55.280 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 4>just been this absolute fallacy. And one of the things

0:54:58.080 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 4>that happened most recently that really really upset me actually

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:04.160
<v Speaker 4>because I was like, this is just such bullshit, and

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, the media can really make a story out

0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:10.720
<v Speaker 4>of anything. We were at Melbourne Cup Races and Georgia

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 4>was interviewing for Channel ten and so part of the

0:55:13.200 --> 0:55:14.520
<v Speaker 4>was a photo on the wall and then we went

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 4>and had an interview. But it was such an awesome chat,

0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.200
<v Speaker 4>like we talked about how we were both engaged, and

0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:19.879
<v Speaker 4>we were like, you.

0:55:19.840 --> 0:55:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Know, look at your ring you Oh, what's your dress

0:55:21.640 --> 0:55:22.160
<v Speaker 2>gonna be like?

0:55:22.200 --> 0:55:25.280
<v Speaker 4>And it was just a really like lovely, supportive conversation

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 4>and I walked away from it going like, oh, that

0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:31.240
<v Speaker 4>was so nice. Like I was really nervous about chatting

0:55:31.280 --> 0:55:33.399
<v Speaker 4>to her because I was like, I don't know how

0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:35.239
<v Speaker 4>this is going to go because the media always ends

0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:38.360
<v Speaker 4>up writing something so negative. And it was awesome and

0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:40.359
<v Speaker 4>I had such a nice day. And then the next

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 4>day there was several articles online and it was a photo,

0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:47.200
<v Speaker 4>a quick one second photo that was taken out of

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 4>a whole conversation where we both didn't look like we

0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.160
<v Speaker 4>were enjoying ourselves. We both looked a little bit disinterested

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 4>or disgruntled, and it was just one second in time,

0:55:56.120 --> 0:55:58.560
<v Speaker 4>and then an entire article had been written about how

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 4>we hate each other and how we are in competition

0:56:01.080 --> 0:56:03.160
<v Speaker 4>and how you know you're jealous of each other because

0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:07.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, she dated Matt, who fucking cares like. It

0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:10.400
<v Speaker 4>was just so fabricated, and it made me really really

0:56:10.440 --> 0:56:13.080
<v Speaker 4>aware of just how much can be written in the

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 4>media that's not true, and how far they can go

0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:19.440
<v Speaker 4>to perpetuate this idea that women are always in competition

0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:21.880
<v Speaker 4>with each other. So this is just my personal story

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.040
<v Speaker 4>on this. So and I'm saying this because I think,

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:25.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, we really need to be critical of the

0:56:25.920 --> 0:56:29.280
<v Speaker 4>stuff that we're reading and not take everything on face value.

0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for all of you non BATCHI people and all

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:35.360
<v Speaker 3>of our lovely overseas listeners. Just like a quick little recap.

0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:39.800
<v Speaker 3>Georgia love who Laura's talking about. She was bachelorette, Matt

0:56:39.880 --> 0:56:42.359
<v Speaker 3>was the runner up on So he got rejected and,

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:44.280
<v Speaker 3>like in Inverted Cooms, heartbroken.

0:56:44.320 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he was. I think he was.

0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:48.120
<v Speaker 1>He was, Yeah, he totally was, said Yeah.

0:56:48.120 --> 0:56:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Then the next year Matt became the Bachelor, and then

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.160
<v Speaker 3>that's when Laura won. So this is why the media

0:56:54.320 --> 0:56:57.480
<v Speaker 3>pit Laura and Georgia against each other because it was like, oh,

0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 3>Matt was heartbroken and he still loves Georgia and that

0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:01.239
<v Speaker 3>was the thing that they wanted to play on when

0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 3>it just was completely fabricated. But the issue is we're

0:57:04.320 --> 0:57:06.320
<v Speaker 3>still at this place. The reason they write these articles

0:57:06.320 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 3>is because we're still in this place where no one

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:09.840
<v Speaker 3>wants to say. No one was to see article that

0:57:09.880 --> 0:57:14.160
<v Speaker 3>says Laura and Georgia had a great conversation, like they

0:57:14.160 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 3>don't want to read it. They want to be like,

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, there are at each other's throats, because

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.600
<v Speaker 3>that's what we still that's the clickbait, and that's what

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 3>we're still clicking on one hundred percent. And it just

0:57:21.720 --> 0:57:24.640
<v Speaker 3>fucking sucked because it was such a wholesome chat that

0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I walked away from it feeling like so devastated that

0:57:27.440 --> 0:57:29.680
<v Speaker 3>once again this idea was just perpetuated.

0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 4>I was like, we're never going to escape that narrative.

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 4>We're never going to because that's what is being pushed

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:36.360
<v Speaker 4>by media. So that was like a weird way to

0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:38.440
<v Speaker 4>wrap this up. But I think that all these things

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:41.680
<v Speaker 4>really like, I think all these things really interrelate, like

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:46.120
<v Speaker 4>social media, the media, our internalized thoughts, the conversations we

0:57:46.160 --> 0:57:48.640
<v Speaker 4>had with our friends. They all stem from the same

0:57:48.800 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 4>conversation and the same thing. So, like we said, I mean,

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:53.520
<v Speaker 4>really just to kind of put a bow on this

0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 4>and wrap it all up nicely, it comes down to

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.360
<v Speaker 4>us as women to self censor the things that we're

0:57:58.400 --> 0:58:00.439
<v Speaker 4>saying and the things that we're doing. And this whole

0:58:00.440 --> 0:58:02.360
<v Speaker 4>idea of like two wrongs don't make a right and

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 4>an eye for an eye makes everyone blind. Just being

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 4>like all the women and men on the Life on

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.400
<v Speaker 4>Cut podcast group, because if you haven't enjoyed the Life

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.800
<v Speaker 4>on Cut podcast group, honestly, it is one of the

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 4>only podcast groups that I've ever been a part of

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:19.120
<v Speaker 4>where people are so incredibly supportive, uplifting, and I'm just

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:19.840
<v Speaker 4>such a big fan.

0:58:19.920 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Get on there, you're a fan of your own podcast group.

0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm also a lot of a biased No, it is true,

0:58:25.520 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 3>we're super lucky to have that community.

0:58:27.040 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's what we're saying.

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 3>We don't want to be on this rand that like

0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:33.200
<v Speaker 3>women suck because they don't, You're all amazing. We just

0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:35.479
<v Speaker 3>wanted to we think it's an interesting conversation. We wanted

0:58:35.480 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 3>to highlight it because it's happening in front of our

0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:39.040
<v Speaker 3>eyes in the media, we're seeing it online.

0:58:38.760 --> 0:58:41.040
<v Speaker 1>And we just thought it was an important conversation because.

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Literally, the only way we're going to progress is to

0:58:45.320 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 3>physically mentally make these improvements now ourselves, and you can

0:58:49.840 --> 0:58:52.479
<v Speaker 3>only do that by checking yourself and your friends too.

0:58:52.880 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Like even some of my friends sometimes they'll say something

0:58:55.560 --> 0:58:57.560
<v Speaker 3>since I've had since I've been researching this, they'll say

0:58:57.560 --> 0:58:59.280
<v Speaker 3>something there's like innocent, but like, oh my god, you

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:00.880
<v Speaker 3>see what she wore, And I'm like, well, hang on,

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:01.640
<v Speaker 3>chios really great.

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm trying to.

0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Even say what I'm trying to even stop myself from

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:08.040
<v Speaker 3>getting into that conversation because I think that's really really important,

0:59:08.040 --> 0:59:09.640
<v Speaker 3>and my friends are all getting on board with it.

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Everyone in my life is starting to be really positive,

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 3>and I think that once we all get on this movement,

0:59:14.320 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 3>this is how we're going to.

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Evolve as a generation. Boom.

0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:24.520
<v Speaker 2>That's a wrap.

0:59:28.440 --> 0:59:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys.

0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:32.680
<v Speaker 4>You know that we never finish an episode without our

0:59:32.800 --> 0:59:35.200
<v Speaker 4>suck and our sweet and that means that this is

0:59:35.200 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 4>our highlight and our low light of the week. Brittany,

0:59:38.280 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 4>you can kick it off. What was your suck?

0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:40.080
<v Speaker 2>Baby?

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 3>I need to say that because you're thinking of what

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:45.880
<v Speaker 3>yours see I know miner okay, oh have a funny

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 3>one that's not funny, but myself. Way to really preemd

0:59:48.840 --> 0:59:52.480
<v Speaker 3>it why suck is that whilst Laura and I were away,

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 3>we got our Facebook memories that works. Like Laura's was

0:59:58.000 --> 1:00:00.520
<v Speaker 3>like happy three year anniversary to you and Mad and

1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:02.040
<v Speaker 3>then mine came up and it was like happy two

1:00:02.080 --> 1:00:03.840
<v Speaker 3>year anniversary to you and Nick. And it was like

1:00:03.920 --> 1:00:06.720
<v Speaker 3>disaster because it's like a photo of me walking away

1:00:06.720 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 3>from Nick being heartbroken, and I just thought that was

1:00:09.320 --> 1:00:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Whilst I'm saying it's my suck, it was actually so funny.

1:00:11.800 --> 1:00:14.760
<v Speaker 3>That's like the biggest dickhead Facebook memory that there is.

1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Like, I mean, most people when you.

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<v Speaker 4>Go through a breakup, they usual Facebook just deletes everything

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<v Speaker 4>from your life, like you know, it's like they don't exist,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, you don't even get a friend notification nothing.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just gone into the nethera of the social media world.

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<v Speaker 4>But then like for you, each year you get like,

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<v Speaker 4>hey on this day two years ago, you got dumbed publicly,

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<v Speaker 4>Hey on miss day, three years ago, you had your

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<v Speaker 4>heart smashed into a thousand fucking pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just cruel. A line. You can laugh about it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's cruel.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and this is the great thing like a year

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<v Speaker 3>ago wouldn't have last, would have been like ouch. Now

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in hysterics also because one of the memes that

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<v Speaker 3>I keep seeing that pops up is just like me

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<v Speaker 3>in the dress walking away and there's just someone's written

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<v Speaker 3>on it and said, at least she got to wear

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<v Speaker 3>a wedding dress. And I was like, fair, like, mate,

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<v Speaker 3>you well played. I did well in saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>On the exact same day as you had your two

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<v Speaker 4>year anniversary, Matt and I had our three year anniversary,

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<v Speaker 4>which is really startling because we really didn't take things slow,

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<v Speaker 4>did we. Why maybe she was about to pop out

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<v Speaker 4>a hot lap to the finish line.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, we're like, we're gonna get married one day. Guys.

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<v Speaker 4>We're just trying to do things in the most unconventional

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<v Speaker 4>way possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And you and I just keep being really really contrasted

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<v Speaker 1>in our life, don't we Like it?

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<v Speaker 4>Just really like I just couldn't be at a more

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<v Speaker 4>opposite point in my life. Well, like what's gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>good for the podcast. Let's do something really polar opposite,

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<v Speaker 4>britt you stay single, and I'm just going to keep

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<v Speaker 4>pro creating at the same time each year, I'll have

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<v Speaker 4>to keep looking after them Arnie Brittany duty.

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<v Speaker 3>My sweet would literally just be that I did get

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<v Speaker 3>to go up to Byron Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great time with my friends. The weather

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<v Speaker 1>was really great.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't serve as much as I wanted to because

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<v Speaker 3>there was a shark, like a really big shark. But

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<v Speaker 3>I we had like a semi week off. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a working holiday, but I felt good.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's my sweet. So what's yours?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, said again, So what's your suck? I suck my suck?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I swear to God, you just said

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<v Speaker 1>you knew it.

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<v Speaker 4>No, my suck is. My suck is at today. And

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<v Speaker 4>I know I've been speaking about this for the last

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<v Speaker 4>couple of weeks, but today is Marley's very first day

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<v Speaker 4>of daycare. We started recording it this morning, and as

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<v Speaker 4>we sat down to record, Matt took Marley to daycare,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I got a phone call from him, which

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<v Speaker 4>was that she got really upset and she cried a

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<v Speaker 4>lot before he left, and I had wild, wild, wild

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<v Speaker 4>amounts of anxiety and then I cried and I walked in.

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<v Speaker 1>And Laura sitting on the luande and she looks up

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<v Speaker 1>at me. She's got tears in her eyes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>look at her. I'm like, what's wrong, and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>Marlie went today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's okay, and she's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, it was. It was a lot, like I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I've been talking about this last couple of weeks, but

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<v Speaker 4>she's finally started one day a week. We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>operate to two days next week, or we're gonna up

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<v Speaker 4>it to two days soon. But I just wanted her

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<v Speaker 4>to go and like run in there and play with

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<v Speaker 4>the toys and stuff like she's done. We've done three

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<v Speaker 4>different orientations because it's taking me that long to be

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<v Speaker 4>okay with actually taking her to day care. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>most a lot of parents just go for one orientation,

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<v Speaker 4>but we've done three now.

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<v Speaker 1>But Laura's I'm thirty three weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>I just sat with her there every day, and so

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<v Speaker 4>every time we've gone in for orientation, she's just run

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<v Speaker 4>in and played with the toys. And so to hear

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<v Speaker 4>that today when we were leaving her. She was really clinging,

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<v Speaker 4>like she understood what was going on, Like really breaks

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<v Speaker 4>my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>So that is my suck.

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<v Speaker 4>As much as I know it's a necessity, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>not something that I want to do, and I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>struggling with it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>My sweet is that you have a free day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to suck my stomach in anymore when

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<v Speaker 2>I go for walks. I just let everything hang free.

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<v Speaker 4>No, my sweet is that I feel like I'm living

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<v Speaker 4>more authentically, which sounds really wanky, but it's the truth.

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<v Speaker 4>I've found it really difficult over the last four months

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<v Speaker 4>to keep that part of my life a secret, not

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<v Speaker 4>because I want to be banging on about it all

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<v Speaker 4>the time by any means, but because you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>been such a significant being pregnant, having miscarriages, having my

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<v Speaker 4>fertility journey has played a massive role on my mental

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<v Speaker 4>health and my happiness, and I guess not being able

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about it at all has made me feel

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<v Speaker 4>a bit disconnected from myself. And so I'm really happy

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<v Speaker 4>that now that's out in the open and I can,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, say, hey, guys, the reason why I can't

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<v Speaker 4>do this is because I'm dying of indigestion over here.

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<v Speaker 4>All the reason I keep that thing into the microphone,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I have indigestion.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, just small.

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<v Speaker 4>I know that sounds like pretty I guess like the

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<v Speaker 4>intergestion thing sounds like a pretty insignificant thing, and it is.

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<v Speaker 4>But on a big day to day picture, being pregnant

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<v Speaker 4>really consumes a lot of your day, and it consumes

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of your mental space. So keeping that private

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<v Speaker 4>and not being able to speak about it at all

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<v Speaker 4>has taken a bit of a toll. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>happy that that's out in the open, and I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>grateful for our community and everyone who's been super supportive.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's it, babies.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, So guys, just before we go into a

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