WEBVTT - 🦈 Heroic lifeguard recalls Sydney shark attack...

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<v Speaker 1>Kill all right, but right now, Brooklyn, this was horrific

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<v Speaker 1>in Sydney over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I know it's Couldjie. In Sydney's Eastern Suburbs, a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five year old mother was in the water swimming

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<v Speaker 2>and the worst thing that we all dread happened. A

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<v Speaker 2>shark started to maul her and an off Judy volunteer

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<v Speaker 2>lifeguard so he was just outsurfing at the time. He

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<v Speaker 2>was about one hundred meters away from where it was happening.

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<v Speaker 2>He heard her screaming and then went straight to her

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<v Speaker 2>to give any help that he could. He's just twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years old and his name is Charlie and he

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<v Speaker 2>joins us now Morning Charlie, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 3>Morning guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, when I hear shark, or you hear that alarm

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<v Speaker 4>or anyone screaming that out, the first thing I'm doing

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<v Speaker 4>is getting out of the water. And you're in it

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<v Speaker 4>and you can see this shark thrashing about and you've

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<v Speaker 4>just gone directly to it, like it so incredible, brave,

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<v Speaker 4>But I can imagine how traumatizing it must have been

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<v Speaker 4>for you, Like are you actually doing okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I'm doing all right. It's it's been a

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<v Speaker 3>pretty busy couple of days, so I haven't had too

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<v Speaker 3>much time to myself to think about it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>actually jumped in the pool this morning back training for

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<v Speaker 3>the first time, and that was the first time I

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<v Speaker 3>really had some timeline with my thoughts and yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>feeling all right. Obviously it's been a pretty full on experience,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, the first time I think I'm managing it

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<v Speaker 3>all right.

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<v Speaker 4>There'd just be so much adrenaline going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And we do get do you get training? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a lifeguard, what are you told to

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<v Speaker 2>do in a situation like this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we don't exactly go through this exact scenario

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<v Speaker 3>because it's a pretty unique one. But I guess we

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<v Speaker 3>were always taught when we're doing rescues or managing first

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<v Speaker 3>aid situations that is that you would put yourself first

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of safety, and then the bystanders and then

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<v Speaker 3>the patient, and you also kind of have a consideration

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<v Speaker 3>of who's in the most dangerous well and so I

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<v Speaker 3>guess I was on a board, so I felt like

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<v Speaker 3>out of all the people in the water, I was

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<v Speaker 3>the most safe, and well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk us through that for a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. So you're on your paddle board, you're behind

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm guessing your meters away from where this woman was.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you hear screaming or what what actually went down?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was out training. I'm on eighteen foot board

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<v Speaker 3>designed for open ocean paddling. And she actually the woman

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<v Speaker 3>next to her was the one who originally saw the

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<v Speaker 3>shark and started screaming about one hundred meters away from

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<v Speaker 3>me at the beach. Okay, And yeah, that's when all

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<v Speaker 3>the people around me, it was a couple of swimmers

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<v Speaker 3>close to me, all looked up and started trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get over to my board to get out of the

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<v Speaker 3>water because I thought I'd help me into the beach,

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<v Speaker 3>which obviously I wanted to, but I kind of had

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<v Speaker 3>to go the shark's not near you, guys, I need

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<v Speaker 3>to go check out on these people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're headed for the shark.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah, at this point I could. Most of

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<v Speaker 3>the time when someone screamed shark, it's it's usually not

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<v Speaker 3>a shark. And if it is something small, especially on

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<v Speaker 3>a day like that when it's such a clear DAYE

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<v Speaker 3>don't expect there to be anything that serious up there,

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<v Speaker 3>and as I got closer, I could see it underwater

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<v Speaker 3>and moving really slowly, and again just thought it was

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<v Speaker 3>going to have a look and realize it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 3>seal and move on.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>So underwater, it was impossible to tail. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>a shadow. But once it actually grabbed her, there was

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<v Speaker 3>a point where it came out of the water. I

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<v Speaker 3>could see its dorsal tail, fin lord of its torso,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was it was huge. That was when I

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<v Speaker 3>actually went, Okay, I don't really know what to do here.

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<v Speaker 3>It was probably the most frightened.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, it says here it was like three to

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<v Speaker 4>four meters. That's longer than my car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you kept going, Charlie. You went to the woman,

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<v Speaker 1>so you saw how big the shark was, but you

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<v Speaker 1>just kept going to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, I definitely wanted to paddle in. I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was very scared.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is why everyone's calling you a hero, Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>It is heroic to do that. Well, even if you've

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<v Speaker 2>got training in this well, yeah, but talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Us through that moment. You've got a decision, right, go

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<v Speaker 1>in or go towards her? What made you go towards her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Well, once the shark came out of the water

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw how big it was, I actually didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know what to do, and I didn't think there was much

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<v Speaker 3>I could do to help, just because it was such

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<v Speaker 3>a powerful animal. So that was when I just signaled

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<v Speaker 3>to the beach, tried to signal to lifeguards, basically evacuate

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<v Speaker 3>the water, try and maybe get some powercraft out. There's

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<v Speaker 3>something to help. And it was only after that she

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<v Speaker 3>got taken under the water when I just went, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what to do here at all.

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<v Speaker 3>And she popped back up and the sharka let her go,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was when I went, okay, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>get her, to get her now, And that was when

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<v Speaker 3>I paddled in.

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<v Speaker 4>And have you spoken to the victim's family since Saturday? Like,

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<v Speaker 4>do you know if she's doing Okay, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>The only updates I've had haven't changed since yesterday morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know her name, but she's in a

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<v Speaker 3>critical condition and stable is what I last. And I

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<v Speaker 3>only found out that she was a mother in the

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<v Speaker 3>intro you just gave them, So that was pretty upsetting here.

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<v Speaker 4>I just found that out as well. I can only like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, when you're out in the water or anywhere

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<v Speaker 4>and you're in danger, all you are wanting is somebody

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<v Speaker 4>to step in and help and save you. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>what we did. But yeah, that's what you've done for

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<v Speaker 4>this mum and this woman, Charlie like you. Honestly, your

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<v Speaker 4>parents must be so bloody proud of you. Also probably

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<v Speaker 4>angry that you put yourself out there. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, as human beings, that's what we do. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>if you see someone in distress and danger and stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes you really don't think about it. You just you

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<v Speaker 4>want to dive in and help.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when you, Charlie did that. Yeah, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think, mate, You're gonna get back in the water

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<v Speaker 1>and they are talking about culling sharks. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about that? Is that a good idea or not?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm definitely going to get back in the water.

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<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, it's gonna be a bit scary. Mum is

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<v Speaker 3>definitely not stoked about it. I'm not actually waiting at

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<v Speaker 3>Manly Beach right now. About the art for a paddle

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<v Speaker 3>you're going in off the t I didn't get to

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<v Speaker 3>finish on the weekend. In terms of the shark going,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not educated enough on the subjects have an opinion.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like the idea of needlessly killing animals, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think some action needs to be taken because I've

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<v Speaker 3>spent the whole life on my water, in my whole

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<v Speaker 3>life in the water, and I feel over the last

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<v Speaker 3>year there's been more shark attached in Australian i've heard

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<v Speaker 3>in any of the time before that.

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<v Speaker 4>Combined, I just feel like things to bring back shark nets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well they're off at the moment, right, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>off for winter. Are you seeing more sharks when you're

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<v Speaker 1>out there?

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually quite rare that I see sharks when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on this board paddling, because I'm usually out in quite

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<v Speaker 3>open ocean in windy conditions, and when you're in deep water,

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<v Speaker 3>it's pretty rare for sharks develpment on the surface. But

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<v Speaker 3>definitely going up and down the coast and surfing and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>just being coastal hearing in the community, there's definitely more

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it and I've definitely seen more and more

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<v Speaker 3>recently over the last few years.

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<v Speaker 4>Alright, mate, well good on you kids are never going

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<v Speaker 4>in the ocean again. Oh well, that's it from.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, Charlie. I hear I mate, well done, Okay, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 4>You're amazing you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank really appreciate it. She's all right.