1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: This episode of the Surge is brought to you by Origin, 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: proud partners of Cricket Australia and powering the Power Surge 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: in BBL fifteen. Get everyone and welcome to a very 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: special edition of the Surge. It's a super over of 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: the Surge as we get to know one of the 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: superstars of this year's BBL coverage. My name is Adam 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: White and I'm joined by a world superstar, Shahin Shaa 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: Freddy Shahem. Welcome to the Surge, Thank you, and welcome 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: to Australia. Welcome back. Thanks. 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, lasted playing now again for Big Bush, so ye're 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: pretty happy and excited this time. 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: It's a bit different though, because you've got the home 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: crowd that is actually going to be cheering for you. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it would be like more Pakistani. 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot of play with different teams and 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: we're excite it for us as well to plan and yeah, 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: we all is like looking forward for this edition. 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: Now and this year it's a very special BBL because 19 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: we've got a situation where you're coming, Muhammed rizz one 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: is coming, Barra's arms coming, they're all here. In fact, 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: this is very special for us here in Australia to 22 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: have have you here. 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, like for the last couple of years there was 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: no window for playing Big Bash, but this year I 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: had a window and had an opportunity for us as 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: well to play here. And there was a small couple 27 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: of players which also they're exciting and looking forward for 28 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: playing Big Bash. Yeah, starting for a few days and 29 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: preparation was good so far. 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Talk me through the whole process of your coming out here. 31 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: As you said there was a window, there was no 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: no cricket for Pakistan. How did it all start? Did 33 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: did you say hey I want to come to Australia. 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: Did someone come to you? How did it all start? No? 35 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: When we like in the pick and then see that 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: no cities in that like in month. So yeah, like 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: when you had series you have to go there, but 38 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: now no series and there was a couple of games 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: coming but I hope that sought out soon and playing 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: full Big Bash. 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: So you've got yourself, Barazama and Muhammed Rizwan. How exciting 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: is that for the three of you to all be 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: here in Australia at the same time. You're not playing 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: obviously for the for the same team, but that you 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: are in the competition together. 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we we playing like for the same team for 47 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: Pakistan for like seven eight years. They play more than 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: me for Pakistan and then we play each other in 49 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: our PSL and now it's again opportunity like for different 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: teams we're playing and against. 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: We'll play each other in. 52 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: More exciting here will be I hope the bollage had 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: helped more not in Pakistan like flat crickets. It'll be 54 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: enjoying here and yeah, a few games and so our 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: home games in Gaba are also playing against them for 56 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: their home so we'll be excited like playing each other 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: for again a long time. 58 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, So tell me saying, how are you going to 59 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: get Barbara? What's what's your plan? 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't want to say that, yeah, but yeah, Barbara 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: is a world last player, no doubt about that. And 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: he had a lot of runs for Pakistan for many 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: years and there will be like a few different. 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: Deliveries against him. 65 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 2: And he's more rotation players than so yeah, he can 66 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: like go for big runs. 67 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 68 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: My plan will be simple, use the Australian wiccords. 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: He's got a beautiful cover drive. Yeah, I mean that's 70 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: that's his trademark. 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Yes, his trademark that, yeah, so you will try to 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 2: stop that. 73 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 3: And what about Mohammedan is more different? 74 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: He like pace on ball and he's different than him. 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: And they bought a word last play like a big 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: bond for Pakistan cricket for many years and they're still 77 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: in that position now. 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: So yeah, looking forward for that challenge. 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 2: Actually they're no more me as well a ball him 80 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: in the nets, so they know how they play me 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: and how I want to them. But we'll be excited 82 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 2: and that challenge because we're playing each other more so 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: they will one hundred percent had a plan against me. 84 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: And I'll be like saying. 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: What's it like when you're bowling in the nets when 86 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: you're playing for Pakistan? Does it get competitive? Do you 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: try and get the better of each other when you're 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: out there in battle in the nets? 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: We we like we three always like in the nets, 90 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: just like a game, not a net. Just come and 91 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: go through that now, we always like in the in 92 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: the nets. 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: Also had like a match. 94 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: Ball up proper Poles and and they're going harder and 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: in that t is well. So I had a good 96 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: conversation with that time as well. How we can progress 97 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: and how we get ready for ourselves. 98 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: For the game. 99 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: I'm interested from the point of view of coming and 100 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: playing for the Brisbane Hate you get to play it 101 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: on the Gabba. That's one of the best bowler our 102 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: best pitches for fast bowlers. When you found out that's 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: where you were going, how excited were you about that proposition? 104 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I heard like they had first pick, so 105 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: pretty happy, like hopeful the bacon and yeah I played 106 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: didn't Gaba test match eight twenty and also that warm 107 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: up's World Cup games, so I had a few games there. 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: I had a good experience of far played two days 109 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: ago a game there and the pitch was like bouncy. 110 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: So I hope that in the game as well is 111 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 2: help us and win games for the team. 112 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: So when you're playing TEA twenty cricket, what what's your planes? 113 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Are you out there? Just a bowl as fast as 114 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: you can and use the conditions that you'll get here 115 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: in Australia, You're like, I mean obviously a lot your 116 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: change ups as well. What do you think your weapon 117 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: is going to be here? 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: I think my job is more to take wickets early on, 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: build up pressure. 120 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: For opening team. 121 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: Like same goes to Batsman like two openers coming hardly 122 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: la cash the four or power play, so I think same. 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: I didn't change more in my cricket hours whichever I 124 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: feel like that time is work for the team and 125 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 2: I need a wicket, so m'st been probably my plan. 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: Yeah in twenty figured batsman coming will be hard, so 127 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 2: pretty sure I'll well the same. 128 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: And one thing that a lot of people don't realize 129 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: is is your leadership your captain see three time champion 130 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: at Pacel where you've been the captain as well as 131 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: one of the star players. What what makes you a 132 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: good captain? What makes you a good leader? 133 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Actually I didn't captaincy in my domestic cricket, so so 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: many like in in under eighty ones. Uh yeah, I 135 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: had a vice captain for Lahore for two years when 136 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: Abe was playing in other captains if he was there 137 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: at that time, So I would be like, uh with 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: the ur I I'm not saying honor, he will again 139 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: say oh you said meill like he's my brother Samin Rana, 140 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 2: he's an honor and he's a manager in the team 141 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: as well, so that the guy. 142 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: Always guide me very well. Uh. 143 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: With him, we had a very very good uh team 144 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: like trying to make it and pretty few things easy 145 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: for me. And this Lahore Cluandar team gave me everything, 146 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: uh to be honest play for eight years for them. Uh, 147 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: like most of cricket, I playing with Lahore Cleander. I 148 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: I feel Lahore is my own team, so more in joy. 149 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah captains, why like they had experienced players. They know 150 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 2: what to do. Just like when they need my advice, 151 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: I'll give them. Otherwise, no interrupt They know how to 152 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: play cricket. Yeah, when you chip in more, they will 153 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: be disturbed, so I'll give more authority to them. 154 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Nothing different because often we talk with leaders that some 155 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: like to inspire with actions, so in your case to 156 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: bowfast to get wickets and also valuable runs. And then 157 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: others like to be leaders tactical, they like to be creative. 158 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: What are your more? I would imagine you're more with 159 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: your actions. 160 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like in bowling, I will not change anything like 161 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: similar like whoever captain, I'll ball the same like and 162 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: not one of them to shout to the players looks 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: bad on camera, So not shouting towards the players. 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: Uh. 165 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: And I always trying to not just eleven in your 166 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: main players, the sitting uh in dugout they're also your 167 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: main man's and also that management you need that advice 168 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: as well. I think with the all management and team 169 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: you have to carry this uh with your team. Uh, 170 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: then you can have a success. Otherwise, if you think 171 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: that eleven is your main player, you can't be successful. 172 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: So I always like look for uh other players as 173 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: well and keep chipping and just like had a good 174 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: conversation with them how they feel and uh, I'm going 175 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: in a hurdle like trying to they speak, not me, 176 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: uh because they are same like me in this team, 177 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: so nothing special like more uh trying to they speak 178 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 2: and they had a conversation with other players and they 179 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: more also feel they're the main players in this team. 180 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Did you learn that captaincy from others that you've played 181 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: under or is this more the way that you think 182 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: it should be. 183 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: I think more I think not to others in other 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: CAMPACTERSY are just trying to bawl and feel and whatable 185 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: situation is. I'm trying to like give us best for 186 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: the team. 187 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Here at Brisbane, you're not captain. You have husband 188 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: Cowajio as your captain. At some point you have Nathan 189 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: McSweeney who's got a lot of leadership captain's captaincy experience 190 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: as well. What do you think you'll be Do you 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: think you'll help add or only if asked what sort 192 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: of because I'm hearing that you're already you know, looking 193 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: forward to being involved and helping some of the younger 194 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: players particularly. 195 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: Know there was a few young players. 196 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll be like, of course, available for any 197 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: help and trying to give everything so we know the 198 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: team need my help in any advice, I'll be there, 199 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: like uh yeah, but the captain always had a right 200 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 2: to do their own things and not to go and 201 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: say everything to them like that was probably like of 202 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: course in some cases, like when the four or five 203 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: players come straight away to you, there'll be some confusing 204 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: but yeah, when the captain needs advice, I'll be there 205 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: and trying to give some advice to the ballers if 206 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: they needed. Of course I needed sometimes as well, So yeah, 207 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 2: it'll be good. 208 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: I'm interested, Shane, And this is a great opportunity through 209 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: the Search podcast to learn a bit more about you 210 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: and how you got into cricket. What what can you 211 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: remember your early memories of being a cricketer. 212 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, we're seven brothers. Uh once her sister, 213 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 2: but she's normal. My older brother fled for Pakistan in 214 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: two thousand and four. His name is Ryazafridi. He's now 215 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: coaching in our one of first class region FATA and 216 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: he's now currently a coach of Lahore Co London. So 217 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: for me, he's the one and I'm the last. In 218 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: my uh so he's number one and I am last. 219 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 2: So I've just watched him throughout his career. He had 220 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: a very good first class career. He's a right time 221 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: fast brother. So you're starting cricket to see him and 222 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 2: then other brothers they also play. And then one day 223 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, like no twenty fifteen, my brother 224 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: his name is sand La Fredi. So he he said 225 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: to me in a home, let's go for trials like 226 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 2: in a couple of days, and that. 227 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: Time is my ninth or ten class papers starting. 228 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: So I said, uh, I don't wanna go, Like who 229 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: will pick me in thousand people in Pakstan. I had 230 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: a lot of craze cricket, so that's the point when 231 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: he said, no, you can go, and then I'll go 232 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: and had a two bowls and then picked me for 233 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: the team and two balls and then they picked me. 234 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: So I thought they didn't pick me, but they said, no, 235 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: you had picked so you should say. 236 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Can you remember what the two balls were? Like? 237 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: You actually just ball two ball was like nothing special 238 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: with that, but yeah, they picked me. 239 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: I had a very good. 240 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: Uh performance for region and then straight away they had 241 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: a camp in Karachi, had a camp picked in Parkstan 242 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 2: and a sixteen team had Australia tour in Sydney first time. 243 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah that was also strength that studio tour first time. 244 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: I never go like in the flights and anything, but 245 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: it was really good. It was first time play for 246 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Pakistan under sixteen. I had a good performance and then 247 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: straight away like the night was changed. 248 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: In two years, I played. 249 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 2: For Parkstan all three for my in twenty eighteen, starting 250 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: the play for Kalandar that sorry, then Lahore Cleander. When 251 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 2: Lohore Cleander picked me, I thought Noe picked me because 252 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 2: that was a lot of players in that circuit in emerging. 253 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: But when samin By pick me, had a very good 254 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: game against Multan. But before three games I had a 255 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: very bad games and I was thought I'm the one reason, 256 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: like yeah, to be honest, I give more runs in 257 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: three games when when samin by give me rest for 258 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: a few games and then play I had five for 259 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: in I think four runs, I give five for and 260 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: then my journey was started in international predio. 261 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Fantastic, great story. So I want to ask you about this, 262 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: playing for Pakistan as an under sixteen and going pretty 263 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: much to the other side of the world to play 264 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: away from your family. 265 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: Know what was that like? 266 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: Yep, like first time I was traveling, Like I was 267 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: never traveled to Islam, Badiyuan and Karachi. I had a 268 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: first time travel so yeah, I come with the team. Uh, 269 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: with the k new like everyone knew for me, like 270 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: even the team mats new for me. But yeah, the 271 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: few days is awkward, like it's feel differently. 272 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 3: When you traveling for other countries. Yeah, then slowly slowly 273 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: build up and had a good merits and had a 274 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: good cricket. 275 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: Then did you get homesick? Did you miss it? 276 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: I think yeah, like first time in fifteen year like, uh, 277 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: fifteen year kid go to straight away further country. Yeah, 278 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: it's way, It's what different missing home, missing mond Ad. 279 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, when I come back and then starting my cricket, 280 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: slowly slowly go again somewhere else playing for other countries. Yeah, 281 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: so we had a militia tour. We had I think 282 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: so New Zealand and World Cup. So yeah, and then 283 00:15:59,600 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: used to. 284 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: So Shane and you were talking about all your brothers. 285 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah growing up, did you play a lot of cricket 286 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: after school with your brothers around home? Is that how 287 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: you sort of were able to hone your skills and 288 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: and and get better? 289 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but play my ta tennis ball cricket morning school 290 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: in probably more famous in Pakistan. Everyone playing street cricket 291 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: more than the cricket. Yeah, for hardball. So yeah, play 292 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: for a school cricket a lot. But my older brother 293 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: than me, like he's two or old Sean. So in 294 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: school team he was the player, like they will pick him. 295 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: And then when I was sitting and I was like say, look, brother, 296 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: you should stay home and I will play for this team. 297 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: Please give me some opportunity. And then he leave cricket 298 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 3: because of me. 299 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: He give me opportunity because in the school had a 300 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: rulese not in the same team two brothers. 301 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 3: Right, because of that, he leave. 302 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 2: Cricket and I had an opportunity to play, so which 303 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: is good for him. Yeah, it's not good, but he 304 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 2: was more good in studies. I'm not that much. 305 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: He had payperwork for me, so he had to do 306 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 1: more school work. 307 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: You did more cricket, more cricket work. 308 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: That's good, that's good. Yeah. 309 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: He also had a very good fastball and then he 310 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: lived because of me. 311 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: We see left arm lucky or right right arm okay, 312 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: left arms better, left of difference excellent. 313 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: But in tennis ball cricket, no, not different. 314 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: But so I want you to talk to us more 315 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: about type all tennis tapeball cricket because we do it 316 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: a little bit at home. We type half a tennis ball, 317 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: so it swings. No, a little bit different what you do. 318 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we tape it fuller. I'm not I'm not 319 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: experienced that much. Maybe hardest of it because he played 320 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 3: up for like throughout his career, like till twenty till 321 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: twenty he played. 322 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: We probably taped fuller and not half. If it's half 323 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: like it probably more swing, So we not used that one. 324 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: We've probably fuller and then if it's a little bit gone, 325 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: and then we again tape because if a little bit 326 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: half gone and then swing more. 327 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: So that's why we. 328 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: Probably fuller so you can still swing when it's. 329 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: No not swing that much like yeah, but the specialist 330 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: in tapeball cricket they swing it. 331 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 332 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 2: They play a big leagues in big cricket. Yeah, so 333 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 2: they more know how to swing that ball as well. 334 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: So when here in Australia we would only type half 335 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: the tennis courts. Yeah, and we get in the backyard 336 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: and pretend we walkaye unus so what's ther Macram growing 337 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: up and sharff are of course and then we get 338 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: the boat to really swing. 339 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: Now there was like in Pakistan had big tournaments. They're 340 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 2: playing a big tournament, so not in small grounds. It's 341 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: like a big grounds. Big crowds come to watch that games. 342 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: So they believe the full table otherwise will be like 343 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: tough for batman. 344 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: Especially so when you were growing up, who are your heroes? 345 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: Who are the ones that you wanted to play cricket black? 346 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 3: For me, my brother firstly still he is like in 347 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 3: our home, he's the one. And also my brothers. I feel. 348 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: My brother is everything for me. They helped me a 349 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: lot throughout my career, uh for tell everything like they're 350 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 2: carrying me. And then of course Sida Freddy he's a 351 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: big star in Pakistan so he's the one who we 352 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: watch him for like in TV and in bowling wise 353 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: was he Makram and then of course for any extra 354 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: mitcha Stark and trend ball for left armor. 355 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: That's the big role model. 356 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: So when you were growing up, did you get to 357 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: the top of your mark and visualize that you was 358 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: in Acraham coming into bowl or is it not really 359 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: your own way of doing? 360 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I think not that much. But when I'm 361 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 3: watching in TV and. 362 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 2: When they're bowling, so learn a lot how they bolly 363 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: speak to by you many times he is a very 364 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: good uh tell you how to bowl a lot of time. 365 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 3: When I had a chat William, he's a good man. 366 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: What's it like to speak to Acrahm? It'd be pretty special. 367 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: I would imagine that you actually like you get to 368 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: talk to him, share your share your ideas about cricket. 369 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: I think in in. 370 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: Because of like Parks and more famous because of fast 371 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: balling was seen by Wakar and share. They all are 372 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: Pakistan fastball engagients. So every youngster see their name first 373 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: like how they bawl in their peak time and even 374 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: when their career finished, still they ball that much. 375 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: So I think for US is a big name. Is 376 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 3: that in Pakistan cricket in fastball? 377 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: What does it feel like when you've got young kids 378 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: in Pakistan they want to bowl like you. How does 379 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: that make you feel? 380 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: Probably not following me absolutely no, Like I'm always like, yeah, 381 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: playing three all three format, but trying to like do 382 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: my best for my team. 383 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 384 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: That was sometimes not best in your bowling, but you 385 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: can putting your impact in feeling and batting as well. 386 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: So trying to do something differently which helped my team. 387 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: And I think if the young boys watching just enjoyed that. 388 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: Do you feel that not pressure, but responsible ability to 389 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: be a hero to young young Pakistan but not not 390 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: just young Pakistan cricketers but cricketers around the world. Do 391 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: you feel that responsibility? 392 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: First when I was starting, not that responsibility that time 393 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: was like really young in eighteen nineteen years and then 394 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 2: slowly slowly when playing, Yeah, I had that responsibility actually 395 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: to like people also expect to do every game, but 396 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,640 Speaker 2: which is right, Yeah, they have to, like we play 397 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: for the last seven years and you have to do 398 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: better for our team and we're trying and that was 399 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: sometime and to not do the same, but we're trying 400 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: to give us everything for this team like Pakistania. 401 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: Is it a strange feeling when you have people yelling 402 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: at your name in the crowd and reving you up, 403 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: trying to inspire you to bowl fast? What's what's that feeling? Like? 404 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 2: I think is I feel more give you more confidence 405 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: and you can feel somebody behind you and support. 406 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 3: You, which is give you more energy to do better. 407 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: I think it's good. 408 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: Do you feel also, just from what you were saying before, 409 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: that when you're bowling, you're not just bowing for Pakistan, 410 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: but you are really bowing for your family and for 411 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 1: the sacrifices that they've made for you. And you've talked 412 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: about what your brothers have done. That's something a bit 413 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: especially inside you. 414 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this all things. I was like when 415 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 2: I'm sitting outside but in ground, had a different mind. 416 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: Go and just do your best. 417 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: If I am thinking in the ground something like that, 418 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: then my mind will be diver So yeah, not even 419 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: more things how much mini crowds come and what's their shout? 420 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, when you had a in the mark you 421 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: just go and which area you hit? Just focus on 422 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: and that more. Yeah, do my some own things in 423 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: the ground like give everything go and how to energy 424 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: with your bowling and feed. 425 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: I want you to talk to me about your celebration, 426 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: your famous wicket celebration. Where did where did that come from? 427 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the celebration. Yeah starting like my brother did 428 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 2: the same thing. But yeah I had a shadow f 429 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: with you was also the same, but just at with 430 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 2: that celebration, just kissed and had something different. 431 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: But is yeah, my son now starting this, it's only 432 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: sixteen month, but now you're starting. 433 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: This sixteen months and he's doing it. 434 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 3: He's doing that. I was surprised, like back homes videos 435 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 3: like family, so I was surprised. He's starting this very hard. 436 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: It must be a good celebration if your son's doing 437 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: it already. 438 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 439 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: Is it something that you did again, something you were 440 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: doing playing tape tapeball cricket, something you were doing as 441 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: a as a junior player, or is it something more 442 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: that you started doing when you were playing for the 443 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: Pakistan national team. 444 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 3: I think the same which I'm doing. 445 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, is that is it important to sort of express 446 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: yourself to make you not feel special, But that celebration 447 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: is something that's that's important to you to bowl the 448 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: way you bowl. 449 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: Sometimes you know when I live records, are I did 450 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: more that celebration in the last not for tailor actually 451 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: when take tail records talendo and not just celebration, don't. 452 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, men embratsman feel more. 453 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely more happy. 454 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, definitely take a mensman out on. 455 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: And I think that helps not only from a crowd 456 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: point of view, but I think it helps your teammates 457 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: when when you're doing that sort of thing that it 458 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: sort of it gets your teammates excited. 459 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, then they can feel our Shane is have and 460 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: doing his best things. 461 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely you're talking before about was the Macrahamis show 462 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: back to that? So many great fast balls from Pakistan. 463 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: But I'm interested in your relationship and your thoughts on 464 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: Mitchell Stark. Mitchell Stark recently just took his four hundredth 465 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: Test wicket. He's he's actually gone past words in macram 466 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: now is the most successful wicket wise anyway left fast 467 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: bowler of all time. What do you like about what 468 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: you say Mitchell Stark. 469 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 2: Like in this is somebody ball one forty plus and 470 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 2: without as a word and comments and played two Test 471 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: mantors back to back, had a man of the Mators. 472 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: I think something different and should people in all life, 473 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: how good he is? Like still without these two and 474 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 2: had a two back to back man of the matures 475 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: singlearly win the games. 476 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 3: So I think it's a bigger uh you know, road 477 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 3: model for any youngster still playing test matches, still had 478 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: a wicket, still broke the records. Yeah, bad ball. 479 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: Do we not appreciate him as much as we should 480 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: for what he's been able to do? As you said before, 481 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: to whether it's the first bowl of the match or 482 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: the last ball of the match, he's still bowling over 483 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty kill weders an hour. He's pretty tough, 484 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: it's not. 485 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 2: He'sy honestly, like fast Bathers, had a few good game 486 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: a few bad, but throughout his career he hardly had 487 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: a few bad games. He like always had in a 488 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: good touch and when had a bad he scored four 489 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: runs for the team in crucial times. Even the last 490 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: game he scored that has crucial time. Yeah, of course 491 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: when the last batman had runs in that period. 492 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: Of time, the other team has already broke. So I 493 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 3: think he had a big role in Australia cricket for 494 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 3: many years and he can still do it. 495 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you get a chance often to talk to 496 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: him and share your experiences and share your vis on 497 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: the game, particularly when it comes to left down fast bowling. 498 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but play against him like many years and last 499 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: year we also played against each other and in one 500 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: days of course, but when know what he boll like 501 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: should watch him and sit and how he could and 502 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: he's run up and when he's starting a bowling. I 503 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: think it's many things to see him and learn for 504 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: your bowling experience wise. So I think whenever you ask him, 505 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 2: he's a very good person and humans. 506 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: He will help you. 507 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: So you can get to chat after series that you're 508 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: happy to share share secrets with each other. 509 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: Definitely not secrets, but yeah, I had a good chat. 510 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: Very good. And what about David Warner because you've got 511 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: to play some cree with David Warner and he thinks 512 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: you're a very special player. But the problem is you 513 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: actually going to be playing on different teams again yes 514 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: during the BBL. But I'd love you to talk to 515 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: us about your relationship with David. 516 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 3: But he also like. 517 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: He played for Australia for many years and had a 518 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: good performance recently we played in PSL as well, and 519 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: now you're doing when you're not playing cricket commentary. I'm sure, 520 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, we never we're playing against him. He's also 521 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: a funny character character and he always he's trying to 522 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: give his best in whenever team he's playing, and against 523 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: us when he played for Australia and we played Parkstan 524 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: had a good conversations, good laugh, Yeah, good mate. 525 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: And he's very hard to bowl to. You've ball to 526 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: him in Test cricket and he's had a lot of 527 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: success against Pakistan. But just bowing to him in T 528 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: twenty cricket, how is he one of the most challenging 529 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: bowlers that you've had to have to bolt? Not challenging batsman? 530 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: Is that you've had to bolt? 531 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: Probably not? He is a very good but I feel 532 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: Hashi Mamla is more sound player. He can hit you 533 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 3: straight and like a good technical player, like he had 534 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: a nice pair. 535 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: So's he the hardest one you've had to more? 536 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 3: Yeah? I can so far. 537 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was more many, but he's the one like 538 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: you can always Yeah, No, T twenty is different. That 539 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 2: was a different player, but technically technically players is more 540 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 2: tough to hide him out What's it? 541 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Is it getting harder in I mean you're only twenty five, 542 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: It feels like you're thirty five with him out of 543 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: experience you've had. But is it getting harder into twenty 544 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: cricket to bowl with what the batters can now do 545 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: with that three hundred and sixty degrees, the way they 546 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: can reverse laugh and all these sorts of things. That 547 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 1: is it making it harder for a bowler T twenty cricket? 548 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: Of course he's different, like a wicket scores short boundaries. 549 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: They're just trying to hit you when the world But yeah, 550 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: I think I feel the Test cricket is more okay, yeah, 551 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: like if you're want him to like Hashy Mamala is 552 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: now like in Test cricket as well, he will seriously 553 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: like damage you. And yeah T twenty cricket for batsman 554 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: freedom as well, like yeah, they can hit first ball 555 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 2: and they can hit large ball, yeah whatever whenever they want, Like, 556 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: but yeah, is a fastball or you have to bother 557 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: you with your variation with different plants, field set up. 558 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: What How do you think Pakistan cricket is going at 559 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: the moment? How the health of Pakistan cricket do you 560 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: feel it's in a in a good space at the moment, 561 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: a better space than it has been. 562 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: I think we recently we played a very good cricket 563 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: in all three departments actually test one days in t twenties. 564 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 2: You need time to set alone with your setup. We 565 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: had a couple of changes in like many changes in 566 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: a few years. I think we need that for many 567 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 2: more time. The players is settle now. The new coaching 568 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: staff is in so need that time as well for 569 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: them as well to see the players who best for 570 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 2: the team. And yeah, new setup, new era start like 571 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: awefull list cor well roads in big events. 572 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: And even it's changed since your time of playing cricket 573 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: to Pakistan. You can now play home test matches, being 574 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: able to represent Pakistan at home. How important is that 575 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: for not only you now but for also the youngsters 576 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: that aspire to play for Pakistan that you can actually 577 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: play in front of a home crowd. 578 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we played more cricket than Yui. But yeah, 579 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: back cricket in Pakistan. Really happy playing cricket in Pakistan. 580 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 3: We missed that for many years. 581 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: Especially are now retired player also missing that because they're 582 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: playing in Uimore And we are lucky to play back 583 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: in Pakistan, Testa matches, Audios T twenties, the big teams. 584 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 3: Come and they play. 585 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: We had again games against Australia and Pakistan TEA twenties. 586 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, whenever we play, we feel like we're enjoying 587 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 2: playing in front of our like always supporting both the team, 588 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: not just Pakistan, which is good. Always to support your 589 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 2: other teams as well. Yeah, we enjoy so far. 590 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: Now I don't think any of us know really what 591 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: to expect with you coming and playing here in Australia 592 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: about the crowds, because we get big crowds to the 593 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: to the BABL over the summer, but now with you here, 594 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: we could have enormous crowds. What are you looking forward 595 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: to the most about playing in front of them? 596 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: Yeah? 597 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: For me, like firstly I will give my best to 598 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: win games for my team, and yeah they will be 599 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 2: like roads watched me a big bash and with the 600 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: big crowds. I feel like sometime we'll play and see 601 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: that how the crowd was appreciating you, So that will 602 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: be like if I was excited to see that as 603 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: well and play some good cricket. 604 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: Have you watched much of the BABL on TV and 605 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: you've been around the world and it's been a competition. 606 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: You've thought one day I wouldn't mind flying him man. 607 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also that some different rules here as well 608 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 2: foreign tours, so will be more in interesting. 609 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: And for those that are going to be watching you 610 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: maybe for the first time, certainly certainly in the BBL. 611 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 1: How would you describe yourself as a cricketer? 612 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 3: Is a cricketer? 613 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: It's a tough question, like. 614 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 3: Like a normal cricketer. 615 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: You're not a normal cricket. 616 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 3: I am actually not different than anyone like Sam. Yeah, 617 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 3: just trying to late. 618 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 2: Not perform marrying him, but I'll try to do something 619 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 2: differently for my team. And yeah, I hope is a team. 620 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: Is a Brisbane Heat we played a good cricketer. 621 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: You're going to get to play some cricket. We're talking 622 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: before about people you're playing against, but you're going to 623 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: get to play later on in the tournament with Usbone 624 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 1: Kwaja and also manas Lava Shane too, of Australia's best 625 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: cricketers of the last decade. What will that experience be like? 626 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Do you think is that one of the key reasons 627 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: to get excited about coming here? Yeah? 628 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: I think playing against Osman Way and also Manus a 629 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 2: good cricketer, a very tough in Test matches. Actually in 630 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: Odias More and yeah playing ten twenty. I hope that 631 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 2: chance come in then they come, will be more see 632 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: them and had a good conversation with them. 633 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 3: They played for Australia. 634 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: There's stuff Patsman, they had a very good records for Australia. 635 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 3: For many years. Osman Page is opener, he had a 636 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: very good record. And also Manus, So hopefully you. 637 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: Enjoy who did you get out more? Manus or Oz? 638 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 3: I think Manus More. 639 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: You knew that pretty quickly because in. 640 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: I think nineteen innings I had seven times in very good. 641 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: I like the fact you know that that's very impressive. 642 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 3: He's a number one Test better. So that's why. 643 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: So as we wrap up, just again that this is 644 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: going to be a very special tournament for us, the 645 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: Big the Big yeah, and but for the Big Bash 646 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: this summer. The Australian players are playing so much after 647 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: the Ashes is finished. But to have yourself and Baba 648 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: and rich One here, it's it's very special for us. 649 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: What what are you what are you most excited about? 650 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: Just in general about being here with some of your 651 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: Pakistan te mates. 652 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, like to know more Australian culture and. 653 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: Maybe grab something for Pakistan cricket, like how the Australian 654 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: cricket is like playing cricket, and and how cricket in 655 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 2: the future going on, and how we can put something 656 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 2: for Pakistan and how when you come here and we 657 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 2: know that experience you've played many like different grounds, when 658 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: you have that opportunity to come with Pakstan team, like 659 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 2: wh's going to be playing that experience? And yeah, the 660 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 2: new friends, new members like to see them had a 661 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 2: good chance. But yeah, it's also like in cricket wise, 662 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: like I had a good memories perform in different rounds, 663 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 2: that will be like good, it would be like awesome. 664 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: MENI play, So I'm dreaming of a situation where you're 665 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: steaming bowling at full pace and you get the wicket 666 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: of Bubba's in front of a packed crowd. I'm dreaming that. 667 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 1: Are you dreaming that as well? 668 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 3: Actually not dream but yeah for my team required I did. 669 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: And what sort of celebration you're going to give? 670 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 3: No, no, normal celebration, normal celebration. 671 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for joining us on the surge. 672 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: It's great to have you here. We hope you have 673 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: a really good time here in Australia. We hope we 674 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: look after you and that you plenty of wickets, some 675 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: big it's as well, and more importantly, just enjoy yourself. 676 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 677 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: So I hope you've enjoyed it as well. Knowing a 678 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: little bit more about Shaheen Sharaffreddi, a world cricket superstar 679 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: here for the entire BBL, and I know we're all 680 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: really excited about not only Shaheen Sharafreddi, but also Mohammed 681 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: Rizban and Baba Osama. It's going to make this big 682 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: Bash particularly special. We'll catch you again soon