Speaker 1: I'd like to acknowledge the traditional owners on which this
Speaker 1: episode is being recorded, the combo marry people. We pay
Speaker 1: our respects to elders past, present and emerging, and extend
Speaker 1: that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.
Speaker 1: Today I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson, and this is the
Speaker 1: Rise and Conquer podcast. This is the podcast where which
Speaker 1: have mindset, self development and becoming your higher self mix
Speaker 1: soon with a lot of laughs, plus behind the scenes
Speaker 1: of my life running two businesses and being among Think
Speaker 1: of us as the perfect combo of brunch with your
Speaker 1: besties mixed with self development. No matter where you are
Speaker 1: in your journey, We're here to help you be curious,
Speaker 1: pull yourself out, and embrace radical self awareness. If you're
Speaker 1: ready to get into the driver's seat of your own
Speaker 1: life and stop letting life pass you by, then you're
Speaker 1: in the right place. Hello and welcome back to the
Speaker 1: RNC party. Happy Friday. Today we have part two of
Speaker 1: Q and A with Tim. Guys, these are your favorite episodes,
Speaker 1: they are They're my favorite two. A dear loved producing
Speaker 1: this and we chat about how we feel about stepping
Speaker 1: into our next level together. There was like a tricky
Speaker 1: question for me to answer because no one has ever
Speaker 1: asked me that. We also talk about how often we fight,
Speaker 1: how we deal with fighting, if Tim will ever go
Speaker 1: back to work. That question is word it's so funny.
Speaker 1: Tips on how to get your partner into self development,
Speaker 1: and a lot more. In this episode, Tim does chat
Speaker 1: about his coach and the current program he's doing, and
Speaker 1: we will link that in the show notes, just because
Speaker 1: I know you guys will probably ask, and it has
Speaker 1: been transformational for him, and just apps like this is
Speaker 1: something we've fully paid for ourselves, no spon con or
Speaker 1: anything like that, but it just it has been transforming
Speaker 1: for Tim, and I love giving credit where credit is due.
Speaker 1: I think you can hear the difference if you If
Speaker 1: anyone listens to the episode we did with Tim last
Speaker 1: year versus this two parter, you can you can really hear.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think so, Mmm, that's really cool. It's like it's
Speaker 1: cool that we have that evidence. I guess, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely. I felt like he was way more confident
Speaker 1: and I just even loved the points he brought to
Speaker 1: the combo. I was even like, oh, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But before we get into the show. A quick week update.
Speaker 2: Georgie, how's a week been?
Speaker 1: Why we all awk? Good? Oh my god, it's yeah.
Speaker 1: I've actually had one of the best weeks. Yay, it
Speaker 1: has been. I feel like because previous couple of weeks
Speaker 1: were a little bit, a little bit interesting. There was
Speaker 1: lots of internal things happening for me personally, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of like you know, even astrologically, and this
Speaker 1: week just feels lighter. I feel so clear, I feel
Speaker 1: so excited. I've had some really exciting meetings for NH
Speaker 1: and that no, can I give you a hint? No,
Speaker 1: we'll get murdered. And that was me really like stepping
Speaker 1: into like CEO Georgie, Yeah, I love that, like pitching
Speaker 1: the brand, talking about what makes us different, all those
Speaker 1: sorts of things. I could really feel like my passion
Speaker 1: cut getting filled up. And then also, guys, we had
Speaker 1: our first live call for Rebirth and how was that?
Speaker 1: I dear it was amazing. I literally was on the
Speaker 1: biggest high all day after it. And I actually like
Speaker 1: I felt like I was in a bit of a
Speaker 1: just like like a trance when I was on the
Speaker 1: call with the group. I really just like, I you know,
Speaker 1: said a little prayer before the call. I was just like,
Speaker 1: let it all come through, like let it be perfect.
Speaker 1: And I truly, I'm just so proud of myself how
Speaker 1: I showed up. I'm so proud of the group and
Speaker 1: how they showed up. And you can even like we've
Speaker 1: got such beautiful messages about like already feeling a shift.
Speaker 1: And it was really cute when one woman just explained that,
Speaker 1: you know, she had seen the workbook previously and answered
Speaker 1: it like just journaled on it. Yeah, And then I
Speaker 1: did the call and she said just the way I
Speaker 1: explained things and like transmuted the message. I guess she
Speaker 1: then went back and redid everything and just like had
Speaker 1: a whole different version of herself come up from my call.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, and that just makes me feel really good
Speaker 1: because I'm like, it really does matter how I show
Speaker 1: up and how I be and obviously I know that bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was just some really amazing feedback and yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just I truly know how life changing
Speaker 1: this course is going to be for those involved. And
Speaker 1: we've already just had the most amazing feedback and I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's just something the energy of a live
Speaker 1: call is just something else.
Speaker 2: It isn't, Yeah, so give it too late to get in?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, So you can get in, but we've
Speaker 1: only got three more live calls, so if you want
Speaker 1: to be involved in the action and the magic, you
Speaker 1: can definitely jump in. But also if you can't make
Speaker 1: it for the live calls, it's so fine because they're
Speaker 1: all saved and recorded. So yeah, do not stress. But yeah,
Speaker 1: just a shout out to everyone involved in rebirth. I
Speaker 1: am so proud of you and just the magic in
Speaker 1: that group. It's just it's feeling it's feeling so so good.
Speaker 2: So it's amazing.
Speaker 1: That was my week.
Speaker 2: What about you? Pretty good? Life's just so normally at
Speaker 2: the moment, nothing crazy is happening. I'm not doing you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, And I'm just loving getting into
Speaker 2: a good routine and I'm experimenting with like coming to
Speaker 2: work earlier and then going to gym in the afternoon
Speaker 2: and playing around with that sort of stuff. I am
Speaker 2: joining a new gym and my condition wasn't needed an
Speaker 2: inferreds order and so it does. It's ten minutes from
Speaker 2: my house and it's twenty four seven, so I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be having a sauna more often.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, A tear literally messaged me the other night.
Speaker 1: I think it's a Saturday night, yeah, and she's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just had a sauna as the
Speaker 1: best thing at that It literally was. I felt so
Speaker 1: good after.
Speaker 2: I had the best sleep that night. And I think, like,
Speaker 2: as much as i'd love to get when at my
Speaker 2: house is something I probably can't do at the moment,
Speaker 2: but still finding a way to get it in because
Speaker 2: it is now a priority for me.
Speaker 1: I love that. And it's interesting because I have a
Speaker 1: sauna at least three times a week. So when you
Speaker 1: said that, I was like, yeah, yeah, they're really good.
Speaker 1: But then I was like, oh no, Like I remember
Speaker 1: when I first started and being like wow, so I
Speaker 1: get what you're saying. And it's like, oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's a vibe, isn't it. It's such a vibe. And
Speaker 1: now that I do it consistently, like I can just
Speaker 1: consistently feel like that, and it makes such a huge difference,
Speaker 1: such a sort of it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if I'm so to have a sauna
Speaker 2: three times a week, then I'll have to go to
Speaker 2: the gym, so I might as well, Like it'll get
Speaker 2: me to the gym. It's like, oh, it's a whole journey. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So ps A, Tia, we are giving away a sauna
Speaker 1: at n H for our birthday. I'm so jealous.
Speaker 2: I can't win it.
Speaker 1: And when this episode goes live, I'm pretty sure you
Speaker 1: guys have like one or two days to enter or
Speaker 1: you have to do a shop at end H and
Speaker 1: you could win a sauna or even four K cash.
Speaker 2: Guys, get on that.
Speaker 1: So if you're obsessed with saunas like me and a tear,
Speaker 1: now is the time to shop at NH. And just
Speaker 1: make sure you register your entry. Guys. If you do shop,
Speaker 1: there is just a link on the website. It's really easy,
Speaker 1: and just put your auto number in and register because
Speaker 1: for every fifty dollars you spend, you get one entry.
Speaker 1: So the more you spend, the more entries you get.
Speaker 1: And with that, let's get into the episode.
Speaker 2: Did you see another side of each other after having
Speaker 2: IVY good or bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well just your maternal side.
Speaker 2: Oh actually yeah.
Speaker 1: Like I always knew Tim would be an amazing father,
Speaker 1: but to see Tim as a dad, as a girl
Speaker 1: dad has just been the most incredible journey. And like
Speaker 1: I've been through a journey, but to see Tim become
Speaker 1: a dad and just how he shows up for Ivy,
Speaker 1: how he role models for Ivy, how he cares for Ivy.
Speaker 1: I just can't explain that feeling. It's just, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just feel like I've seen such a beautiful side of you.
Speaker 1: And also, you know, even though we've had so many,
Speaker 1: you know, challenging times, it's like when you're going through
Speaker 1: a challenging time for a child you share together, you know,
Speaker 1: like it's very powerful, like the bond and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. So yeah, I feel like I've seen a
Speaker 1: whole different side of you. I feel like you're a
Speaker 1: whole different person.
Speaker 3: Thanks, man, I appreciate that, and the same to you.
Speaker 3: Some reason in my head, I'm like, and that's me thing.
Speaker 3: It's like I thought I can say something negative about
Speaker 3: me or something like that.
Speaker 1: Are you baring?
Speaker 3: That's interesting? I know, that's an interesting perspective.
Speaker 1: That's a concept.
Speaker 3: Put a pin in that one, babe. We can talk
Speaker 3: about that later.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that tonight at dinner.
Speaker 3: Babe. Yeah, that's a meat problem. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: you have definitely stepped up in a way of juggling
Speaker 3: mum life and work life, which has been super hard
Speaker 3: for you because you're already fucking stressed out and busy
Speaker 3: enough as it is before we had Ivy. So it's
Speaker 3: like for you to be able to do, you know,
Speaker 3: mitigate these situations and you know your daily struggles to
Speaker 3: be able to come home and like show up for
Speaker 3: Ivy as well, it's like, yes, super special and I'm
Speaker 3: super proud of you for being able to do that.
Speaker 2: Thank you. How do you both handle moments of feeling
Speaker 2: resentful towards each other?
Speaker 1: We talk about it. I just tell them straight up
Speaker 1: and like I did the other night, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm actually feeling a bit fucking pissed off that you're
Speaker 1: going to golf tomorrow and I'm feeling really stressed and
Speaker 1: emotional about my week. And then we unpack it and
Speaker 1: we talk about it, and then it's also we came
Speaker 1: to the conclusion or I did, of I need to
Speaker 1: sharedule my week better in work, because I had just
Speaker 1: put a lot of things on myself that you know,
Speaker 1: probably weren't needed. I probably didn't need to attend all
Speaker 1: the meetings, I probably didn't need to do all the
Speaker 1: things in the business, but I had such a I
Speaker 1: need to do this. So really that resentment was really
Speaker 1: to myself, but I was projecting it onto Tim because
Speaker 1: it's the easiest thing to do is project and to
Speaker 1: put responsibility on someone else. So I feel like, if
Speaker 1: you're feeling resentful towards your partner, really have a think
Speaker 1: about where you're resentful towards yourself.
Speaker 2: And before you guys sort of opened up conversations like that,
Speaker 2: did you work through it on your own or did
Speaker 2: you find the resentment building up? How did that first conversation.
Speaker 3: Both doing PD, I'd just.
Speaker 1: Be you know, I don't know why you keep calling
Speaker 1: your PD. Every time he says that, I've got to
Speaker 1: like really think what he's talking about, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he does. Yeah, I mean I would just
Speaker 3: be passive aggressive, and like we did really hold that
Speaker 3: resentment and it came out in toxic ways, like we
Speaker 3: would just have like a like a screen magele or something,
Speaker 3: or it would come out in spiteful ways, yes, fieful ways,
Speaker 3: or like we might lose our temp with IVY, Which
Speaker 3: is like why making things so worked up over this
Speaker 3: little thing is because it's from like this over here,
Speaker 3: coming from me holding resistance from a situation that happened
Speaker 3: a few days ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's the biggest thing we've realized since
Speaker 1: you know, Tim's got into this and we've really started
Speaker 1: unpacking our feelings. Is like a lot of the motions
Speaker 1: you feel in that moment actually don't belong to that moment,
Speaker 1: and they usually are built up from other areas. You
Speaker 1: just don't You're like just at your limit, and it's
Speaker 1: like it's just, you know, the straw that breaks the
Speaker 1: camel's back, like it.
Speaker 3: Would came out like we didn't because before obviously we
Speaker 3: didn't know how to channel our anger, did we really?
Speaker 3: And then now it's like we're still working it out,
Speaker 3: but at least we can channel it by essentially just
Speaker 3: putting emotions out at the table. It's like that's how
Speaker 3: we get our our feelings and angery in a sense.
Speaker 2: Our next question, how does it feel stepping into this
Speaker 2: next level together? New cars, a chef, etc.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Tim, how's your new car? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I love it?
Speaker 1: Full up question on your new car?
Speaker 2: Did you buy a car without telling Georgie?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 1: I literally you already told everyone on the podcast. Can
Speaker 1: you take us through your thought process there?
Speaker 3: Oh, just so excited I was like, minute, I'm getting it.
Speaker 3: Let's just speak clear. I didn't actually buy. I put
Speaker 3: a deposit on it, Okay, didn't.
Speaker 1: The refundable deposit.
Speaker 3: No, well listen, it's like I knew it was going
Speaker 3: to happen, so I just put the deposit on it
Speaker 3: and it was good.
Speaker 2: And how did you bring that up? Did you tell you?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 1: Did you lie about me? He fucking texts me about it?
Speaker 3: Babe. This is literally in the past.
Speaker 1: We just.
Speaker 3: Fully channeled it out. I don't even know what happened.
Speaker 3: It was all blow. It was like this and then
Speaker 3: this and then this. It's like you know that meme
Speaker 3: where it's like your phone gets wet and it's like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I'm shopping and I don't know what
Speaker 3: I just brought a car. It's like, for gotta know.
Speaker 3: Next minute, I.
Speaker 1: Do think it's funny. Oh yeah, well no, I think
Speaker 1: to get back to the question, me and him have
Speaker 1: known each other since we were no. I know, baby,
Speaker 1: you know we're so young. So it's really funny because
Speaker 1: when I talk to people about our lifestyle, you know,
Speaker 1: like I remember a time where I was at university
Speaker 1: and working full time, but like and I was struggling,
Speaker 1: you know, to pay rent, and you know Tim would
Speaker 1: be like, help me out to pay for something, or
Speaker 1: you know, we've really come from you know, that place
Speaker 1: of nothing and having to really build our future together.
Speaker 1: So you know, it really does feel like, fuck, is
Speaker 1: this our life?
Speaker 3: M It's like it's almost slug.
Speaker 1: Good analogy and then quit. And then other moments it's
Speaker 1: not like we've just stepped into this life. This has
Speaker 1: been so gradual, Like if you think about it, Naked
Speaker 1: Harvest is for before that, I was, you know, training
Speaker 1: to be a lawyer. Like, we have taken gradual steps
Speaker 1: into our reality. So a lot of the time it
Speaker 1: does feel really like, of course, this is our life,
Speaker 1: and then other times it's like, holy shit, is this
Speaker 1: our life? I think a lot of the time, how
Speaker 1: often do we say Tim, like when we look out
Speaker 1: at our view of like oh my god, I can't
Speaker 1: believe this is our house, or like this is our view,
Speaker 1: or like we have so many moments like that of
Speaker 1: being like surreal, Wow, this is our reality. Because you know,
Speaker 1: it's even funny we're talking about just five years ago
Speaker 1: we were in our little townhouse in Holland Park, you know,
Speaker 1: getting married only five years ago. Yeah, and there's a little,
Speaker 1: you know, two bedroom townhouse that was sizes of a
Speaker 1: shoe box, so cute and so like it's funny because
Speaker 1: it's like been fast but also not really. So we
Speaker 1: have so many moments where I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is our life, and then so many moments of
Speaker 1: like knowing how hard you know, we've both worked and
Speaker 1: how hard we've you know, worked on this very specific reality.
Speaker 1: And then like even the chef thing, I remember I
Speaker 1: sat on that and thought about that for like six
Speaker 1: months before getting one, Yeah, being like I need this,
Speaker 1: inquiring knowing the price, being like now we can't do it,
Speaker 1: we can just cook, and then having like so many
Speaker 1: meltdowns in the kitchen of like me and Tim trying
Speaker 1: to cook, and then like me coming home from big
Speaker 1: work day, and then Tim's trying to cook, and then I,
Speaker 1: you know, like all these things and this and it
Speaker 1: being like, no, this is the thing. So it's like
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people might see social media
Speaker 1: and think, oh my god, it's just it's always been
Speaker 1: their life, but not knowing the steps and like what
Speaker 1: happens behind the scenes and how long things you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes take and what goes into it and like the
Speaker 1: amount of times I've got a journal and something and yeah,
Speaker 1: all those sorts of things to doesn't share that with me.
Speaker 1: But sure, no cars, this is why I'm gonna work.
Speaker 3: Hey, but I am good at selling them. So that's
Speaker 3: a that's for some reason, I don't know what I'm
Speaker 3: really good at selling stuff? Would you not agree? It's
Speaker 3: like weird thing that I do. That's like motal So.
Speaker 1: Tim sell stuff on the marketplace and out cars and stuff,
Speaker 1: and he just he's great at selling for some reason.
Speaker 3: It's like the universe is just like people always want
Speaker 3: to come to me, like by style. If you want
Speaker 3: to sell anything, I'll just sell it for you.
Speaker 1: And he's really good at selling stuff.
Speaker 3: To which maybe she just start like a selling business.
Speaker 3: Just like hey, you want to sell your ship.
Speaker 1: Stop, you don't fucking have the time right, sit back down.
Speaker 3: Sell your ship. Don't come. This is the official like
Speaker 3: advertising forman stop. So everyone, just if you want to
Speaker 3: email hello at Rosen Conker podcast. If anyone wants to
Speaker 3: sell their ship, you either get me or you're going
Speaker 3: to see you sell it and it'll be gone with
Speaker 3: But it's going to be gone within two weeks. Anything,
Speaker 3: anything will sell it.
Speaker 1: At the time that we joke to my parents that
Speaker 1: we were going to sell our dogs and they were like,
Speaker 1: you can't sell the dogs them. We're going to sell
Speaker 1: them in my place.
Speaker 3: That was funny.
Speaker 1: We're joking. We would never sell out pressure pressure as
Speaker 1: little babies.
Speaker 2: All right, So next question is Tim going back to
Speaker 2: work at all? And I've been to daycare, Tim going.
Speaker 1: Back to work when I goes to school, Well, I think, well,
Speaker 1: Tim reckins, he's retired.
Speaker 3: That's it. On the tour.
Speaker 1: That's literally what he tells people when you're on holidays.
Speaker 1: But he's retired.
Speaker 3: It's like my go to line. I'm like, They're like,
Speaker 3: what do you do for work. I'm like, well, I'm
Speaker 3: actually retired.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what, you're retired and he looks after a
Speaker 1: one year old like that.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, pretty much retired. I'm like, no, it's
Speaker 3: not retirement at all.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he is going into daycare probably one day
Speaker 1: a week soon to test it out for her development.
Speaker 1: We think it would be really good, like for her
Speaker 1: to be around other kids, and then it will give
Speaker 1: Tim one day a week.
Speaker 3: For himself because weekends is like pretty much strictly.
Speaker 1: Family now, family time, which is.
Speaker 3: Like super important, it's like needed.
Speaker 1: Yes, but he's no, he's not going to go back
Speaker 1: to work on that one day. He would just like,
Speaker 1: I'll just do be a lady of leisure.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll probably I'll do my golf day on that
Speaker 3: one day off and then it'll be like do some
Speaker 3: cool stuff, do a bit of study. Yeah, just like
Speaker 3: because that's super important, like just me t for me
Speaker 3: to like recharge for the week. But like that's my
Speaker 3: one day off will be during the week.
Speaker 1: And then also he's one day where he can get
Speaker 1: some ship done because like, as you know, trying to
Speaker 1: get shit done with the child's very hard.
Speaker 3: They probably have to mow the lawn as well. So
Speaker 3: like I do inside the house and I do outside
Speaker 3: the house.
Speaker 1: No one feels sorry. They do.
Speaker 3: I don't think understands that they don't feel sorry.
Speaker 1: I think they love you. But it like hen going
Speaker 1: back to the question would you ever go back to
Speaker 1: work and.
Speaker 3: What would you do? M So, I now have a
Speaker 3: bit of an idea I now have.
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell people you don't well, should
Speaker 1: we leave them on.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, like I have, so before doing this core stuff.
Speaker 3: I didn't really have any idea of what I wanted
Speaker 3: to do when I when I went back to work,
Speaker 3: or if I was going to get back to work
Speaker 3: now figuring out sort of my purpose, I'd sort of
Speaker 3: have a bit of idea like what I would like
Speaker 3: to do moving forward, but I think it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm still working on it. So I don't want to
Speaker 3: say what it is. If that makes sense, should we
Speaker 3: just tell them?
Speaker 2: Can you share, well everyone, what your purpose is? I
Speaker 2: feel like that'd be intrigue. Share your purpose?
Speaker 3: So my purpose, my purpose. Let me get my notes,
Speaker 3: Let me get my notes. I've got notes everywhere through
Speaker 3: this phone. I've got notion on my phone. I got audible,
Speaker 3: he's got notion socause. I just want to get this,
Speaker 3: like absolutely down back.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're waiting, all right, all right, so this is
Speaker 1: like this is it?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 3: The short version? So my purpose is to empower men
Speaker 3: to be more emotionally intelligent and to leave people better
Speaker 3: off than before I met them. I actually saw that
Speaker 3: from Jamie a little bit, because when I heard that,
Speaker 3: that's so.
Speaker 1: Mean, I told him Jamie's and he goes, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's my purpose. I love the first part of that too.
Speaker 1: So even me and Tim discuss a lot of like
Speaker 1: because what you know he talks about is like him
Speaker 1: wishing he had a lot of these tools when he
Speaker 1: was younger. So even like Tim would love to be
Speaker 1: involved in maybe you know, younger males and helping them
Speaker 1: in regards to their emotional intelligence and having those tools.
Speaker 3: That's awesome. That'd be super cool and whatever that means
Speaker 3: in whatever way. But something along those lines, the universe
Speaker 3: will working towards that.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 1: I think that's beautiful, bab, that's really incredible.
Speaker 2: Our next question, how often do you fight and how
Speaker 2: do you resolve them?
Speaker 3: I feel like we've been fighting heaps less. Would you say.
Speaker 1: I was, Oh, have we felt pretty good?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I honestly think since you have been doing this personal development,
Speaker 1: I don't think we've had a proper fight.
Speaker 3: We talk, i'd say fights out about ego, which is
Speaker 3: not actually a fight. Let's just say what you go talking.
Speaker 1: I think you're trying to say. In moments, of course,
Speaker 1: we have emotion and we have you know, conversations with
Speaker 1: each other, and we'll get heated and whatnot. But I
Speaker 1: feel like we haven't had like a fight where you know,
Speaker 1: you're like lingering passive aggression. Yeah, and you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just feel like we haven't had those
Speaker 1: fights because we always sought it out in a way.
Speaker 1: And even what happened the other day and I just
Speaker 1: said to you, I a hundred like I agree with
Speaker 1: what you're saying, or I don't know, I can't really
Speaker 1: remember what it was about, but I just said, I'm
Speaker 1: just dealing with a lot at the moment, and I
Speaker 1: just like would rather not speak about it.
Speaker 3: And then I was like I respect that, and then
Speaker 3: like almost like you know, I say, thank you for
Speaker 3: telling me that, and it does mean a lot.
Speaker 1: And Tim did say, and it's he wrote some stuff
Speaker 1: down and he said, when you're ready to talk about it,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. He wrote some notes.
Speaker 3: I've got the notes. I'm a notes man.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I think it's so important because otherwise I just forget it.
Speaker 3: So if it's there, I'm like, oh man, we can
Speaker 3: tap back into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then also so like for me, I'll if I George,
Speaker 3: like something annoys me with George, I'll like I'll hold it,
Speaker 3: and then I know we're going to have that chat
Speaker 3: at night and then I'll say this and like what
Speaker 3: you did today like really frustrated me, and then sort
Speaker 3: of go through the emotions and then yeah, just like
Speaker 3: that will be us getting our emotions out instead of
Speaker 3: having a screaming match and just actually like just talking
Speaker 3: how we felt instead of been like, ah, fuck you
Speaker 3: you know this and that it's like, yeah, just literally
Speaker 3: talking like the very calm voice.
Speaker 1: Even it was Sunday and I could tell you were
Speaker 1: getting a bit frustrated, and you even kind of snapped
Speaker 1: at me at one moment, and I just didn't respond
Speaker 1: because and then it was maybe ten minutes after you
Speaker 1: said I could really feel I was in my ego then,
Speaker 1: and I apologize and I just I didn't respond, whereas
Speaker 1: previous me would have snapped back. But because we're so
Speaker 1: much more, I know he's not doing it because he's
Speaker 1: just trying to be a dick. I know he's clearly
Speaker 1: frustrated about something. So I feel like our reactivity has
Speaker 1: gotten so much better where I don't feel the need
Speaker 1: to react because I'm like, he's having a hard enough
Speaker 1: time with whatever he's dealing with, and I know that
Speaker 1: we're going to bring it up later so I just
Speaker 1: don't feel the need to react. But then most of
Speaker 1: the time, nine times out of ten, we'll even be like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: I apologize, I didn't mean to. And it's even so
Speaker 1: funny because I notice myself doing that of like, you're
Speaker 1: not reacting and me being like, and now I have
Speaker 1: to apologize. No, But it's not it's not even silent.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say you don't do that, because I
Speaker 1: don't believe in silent treatment. It's but it's the I
Speaker 1: know I've overstepped, and even if I don't apologize in
Speaker 1: a moment, the fact that I know we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about it later, like being.
Speaker 2: Like, how do you feel being at the stay at
Speaker 2: home parent now that you're in the trenches as in
Speaker 2: I think like actually having to do it now, like.
Speaker 3: As in like being tht in the deep end or
Speaker 3: most a yeah, and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, it's your reality.
Speaker 2: It's not just like I'm going to stay at home
Speaker 2: with Ivy. It's like you're actually at.
Speaker 1: Home with Ivy now that you're a stay at home dad.
Speaker 1: What do you how do you feel.
Speaker 3: About it now it's all happening. Yeah, I guess it's
Speaker 3: like it's fucking hard.
Speaker 2: Like it is.
Speaker 3: And it's I mean, hats off to all them, all
Speaker 3: the mums that fucking stay home with their kids or
Speaker 3: dads or dad's brother. Obviously it's a bit more rareer
Speaker 3: my case, but yeah, it's fucking hard.
Speaker 1: Well that's even for example, and I notice our conditioning
Speaker 1: so much because even I fall in the pattern of
Speaker 1: even to get to this podcast, like Tim had to
Speaker 1: wait till Ivy woke up, and then our dogs are
Speaker 1: getting a haircut, so he had to pick them up up,
Speaker 1: pick them up, and then he came here and the
Speaker 1: dogs are here, and it's all stressful, and Tim's a
Speaker 1: bit flustered and stressed. And I made the comment of
Speaker 1: are you stressed because you had to do your two
Speaker 1: things or you know, something like that, which not appropriate,
Speaker 1: And I do apologize to making that comment. It was joke.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that was very interesting comment.
Speaker 1: He did put in his phone.
Speaker 3: This is gonna come up to not.
Speaker 1: You see us, I know, and I do apologize because
Speaker 1: that's not appropriate. And what your comment back was like,
Speaker 1: you have no idea, and it's so true. Like the
Speaker 1: other day my girlfriend was like, let's go for a
Speaker 1: walk of their baby's and she was even coming to me,
Speaker 1: and so I had to walk down you know, our
Speaker 1: hill where we leave, and she's like, I'll be there
Speaker 1: in half an hour, and Ivy had just woken up,
Speaker 1: and to like get Ivy up to feed her, to
Speaker 1: back the bag, and then she did fucking pooh and
Speaker 1: then this and then that, and it took me so long,
Speaker 1: and I like was running down the hill. And yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: I can say, obviously I've been a mom for eighteen
Speaker 1: months now, and happily I can say, even though I
Speaker 1: run to seven eight figure you know, businesses with twenty
Speaker 1: staff and all all the things, being a parent is
Speaker 1: the hardest job. Can easily say. Anytime Tim's like we
Speaker 1: have a joke and Tim goes, should we swap? And
Speaker 1: I go, no, I'm not swapping. You'ret called DIBs and
Speaker 1: I no take backs, and.
Speaker 3: It is I guess it's like I do like the
Speaker 3: aspect that it is challenging and like every day is different,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it's still I can't even explain our of this.
Speaker 3: Some days, like emotionally and mentally, I'll be like, at
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I'll be like so emotionally drained,
Speaker 3: Like I don't even want to talk at night, I
Speaker 3: just want to sit there you see me, like in
Speaker 3: a flak jacket in the corner. So yeah, but it's
Speaker 3: so rewarding at the same time, it's like, obviously she's
Speaker 3: getting that a stage now where she can like she's
Speaker 3: like Richie's few stuff because she knows that you're her
Speaker 3: dad or she knows that you're her mum, and just
Speaker 3: like and she'll come to you the biggest cuddle at night.
Speaker 3: She'll just like cuddle you on the count. It's just like, oh,
Speaker 3: all these hard moments are like just for that, you know,
Speaker 3: even five seconds, if that happens, it's all worth it.
Speaker 1: Do you wait? Prefer this toddles stage compared to the
Speaker 1: newborn stage?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so much, babe. That's like a no brainer.
Speaker 1: I know so much better. I say this every month
Speaker 1: Ivy gets older, I'm like, oh, this is my favorite month.
Speaker 1: Just keeps getting better. And that's like if you're listening
Speaker 1: to this and you're like you're in the newborn trenches
Speaker 1: or you know the things, just know like it just
Speaker 1: I know everyone says it, but it does. It Just
Speaker 1: it gets better and you find your feet and you
Speaker 1: find yourself and you know your relationship and all the things.
Speaker 2: And yeah, next question, what activities does Tim do with
Speaker 2: Ivy during the week, Like playgroup, et cetera.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, so no playgroups yet. We just muck
Speaker 3: around together, me in the eyves. So what we'll do
Speaker 3: is like general activities, like we'll go for a bit
Speaker 3: of an afternoon swim in our spa, do some happy laps,
Speaker 3: which include me throwing her in the pool.
Speaker 1: Or her jumping off the edge.
Speaker 3: Jumping off the edge, she has no fear by the way,
Speaker 3: just like and she just like she'll think she's going
Speaker 3: to catch her, so she should just run it and
Speaker 3: like if you won't look, and she's just going to
Speaker 3: fall straight the pool.
Speaker 1: So concerning, it's actually concerning other than that, I haven't
Speaker 1: said that.
Speaker 3: I mean other than that, like, well, we'll go to
Speaker 3: the park. We'll do a few daily park trips sometimes.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I've been in three parks today.
Speaker 3: Or she's just like and then that's the thing, like
Speaker 3: you gotta find what's like you're going to figure out
Speaker 3: like what your baby's like, Like you might not have
Speaker 3: a very active baby and you can just chill and
Speaker 3: just like you do more intellectual, you know, activities, whereas
Speaker 3: like Ivy is quite active, so I'll to take her
Speaker 3: to the park and then she'll just like and then
Speaker 3: we'll do things at the park, and then she gets
Speaker 3: interact with other kids.
Speaker 1: And yeah, what you were saying the other day, you
Speaker 1: were booking a doctor's appointment, and I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: why don't you go to this doctor's place that was
Speaker 1: closer to our house? And Tim was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I like going to this doctor's place because it's further
Speaker 1: to our house. But he's like, the place has a
Speaker 1: play center for her, so he'll, like, you know, if
Speaker 1: he has to do things like go to the doctor
Speaker 1: or like I don't know, do mundane you know, errands,
Speaker 1: he will send her around. Well what can I do
Speaker 1: for Ivy two during that time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's like what I got to think about now,
Speaker 3: because like you've seen firsthand, is like she she won't
Speaker 3: sit here, Like she will sit here for maximum five
Speaker 3: seconds and then she gets up and just wants to
Speaker 3: do like she can't sit still.
Speaker 1: Tim was getting my Mother's Day president the other day
Speaker 1: and he said, Ivy ran out of like Pete Aller
Speaker 1: Exander like three times while he was trying to pay.
Speaker 3: And like the same. But like I thought it was
Speaker 3: fucking hilarious. So I'd be like running after and she'd
Speaker 3: look back.
Speaker 2: She'd be like.
Speaker 3: Running, and then I'll be like grab her. She's like, ah,
Speaker 3: I'm like money. This is literally I'm just trying to
Speaker 3: buy your mum a knife Month's Day President and just
Speaker 3: taking me off like fucking three hours just to do it.
Speaker 3: But yes, that's all the joys. So like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess there's very active activities to keep her entertained and
Speaker 3: to weary out so she has a good sleep because
Speaker 3: she's actually dropped. No, I don't want to control the.
Speaker 1: Next question.
Speaker 2: This is a really good one. I struggle to get
Speaker 2: my husband on board to have deeper conversations, but I'm
Speaker 2: desperate for some How do I get him to join?
Speaker 1: You take the lead on this, babe? Your purpose?
Speaker 3: All right, well, let's just do three three three hints,
Speaker 3: three tips, three tips from Tim. One is you know
Speaker 3: holding space, Like if you love your partner, of course
Speaker 3: you want like what's you know what they want? So
Speaker 3: it's like you got to, Yeah, you gotta hold some
Speaker 3: space for them. Just have that time where it's just
Speaker 3: you and you and them so they can get their
Speaker 3: their emotions out basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Second tip is like you know, you gotta start. You've
Speaker 3: got to step into your your modern alpha male that's
Speaker 3: what I like to call it. So it's like your
Speaker 3: step into your emotional intelligence and actually let go of
Speaker 3: your ego and just sit there and actually yeah, just
Speaker 3: like really tap into what your partner is trying to
Speaker 3: say and actually connect with them. Mmmm.
Speaker 1: And number three I would say, like you should think
Speaker 1: about the questions you're asking them because you know, for example,
Speaker 1: if I was to ask you without you doing anything,
Speaker 1: tim what is your purpose, We're probably not going to
Speaker 1: get into, you know, a certain conversation, so it's maybe
Speaker 1: not going so deep so fast of like maybe going
Speaker 1: to other questions that you can just get a layer
Speaker 1: of of for example, hey, you know when you do this,
Speaker 1: how do you feel? Or something a bit simpler, something
Speaker 1: more like entry point, some conversation cards, some self discovery guards.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: I think the questions are quite important.
Speaker 3: Definitely, and highlight questions and like another probably like the
Speaker 3: biggest hip actually now I'm thinking about it, is it's
Speaker 3: okay to feel vulnerable, like especially the ruand your loved one.
Speaker 3: It's like men still hold this like thing. It's like, say,
Speaker 3: for instance, you know, he's probably in his ego a
Speaker 3: little bit. He doesn't want to like show fear because
Speaker 3: he's going to feel like less masculine to his wife.
Speaker 3: But that, honestly the opposite of that is what you
Speaker 3: should should be doing, is like you should be like
Speaker 3: giving into that emotion, to that vulnerability where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: putting it all out on the table, because that's what's
Speaker 3: going to help you with that connection with your partner.
Speaker 2: Well quick by the last few questions next on knowing
Speaker 2: what you do now? Do you wish you waited longer
Speaker 2: to have a child? No way, Nah, it comes with
Speaker 2: the perfect.
Speaker 1: I truly believe in divine timing, and I truly believe
Speaker 1: that it's like life happens for me. So I just
Speaker 1: would not change anything in my life. Amazing, And I
Speaker 1: couldn't imagine not having the life we have now, or
Speaker 1: the challenges or the relationship or ivy or just everything. Like,
Speaker 1: I just would never regret it ever.
Speaker 2: Beautiful, Are you nervous to have another child and go
Speaker 2: back through the newborn stage? Oh yeah, a little bit,
Speaker 2: even saying that I feel like we're so well equipped
Speaker 2: now after having colic baby and like knowing what we
Speaker 2: know now.
Speaker 1: So if anything, I'm probably like less nervous because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I actually know what to do now because it'll be
Speaker 1: also yeah, but also I'm going to straight away get
Speaker 1: Susie the sleep Goddess, the sleep queen, straight away get help.
Speaker 1: Was before I like waited, it was only yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I say bring it on, but also
Speaker 1: not keen on doing it anytimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like we'll be ready for when we're ready.
Speaker 2: Our second last question, Tim, what is Georgie's worst habit?
Speaker 3: In the toilet?
Speaker 1: It was on the ground.
Speaker 3: I know, I.
Speaker 1: Did know what they were like on the floor, and
Speaker 1: I was taking them off to get in my gym tires,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like that sort of thing. No,
Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, probably I'm because I'm not very clean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's like the cleanest thing because it's like.
Speaker 1: Ideal date night grilled. It's just when we have time
Speaker 1: to ourselves, when we have a big space of time
Speaker 1: where it's just me and Tim. Honestly, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: We recently we did a picnic like we've been on
Speaker 1: holidays that it's just whenever we have space and we
Speaker 1: have time to connect.
Speaker 3: A lot of the time, like yeah, like in nature
Speaker 3: and it's just.
Speaker 1: Your nature, yeah, with some grilled.
Speaker 2: In nature with.
Speaker 3: It's crazy how much like I have changed, really like
Speaker 3: in a way of like because I was just had
Speaker 3: that trading mindset, you know, like.
Speaker 2: The you know like this, and do you feel like
Speaker 2: that's changed now or like very recently or angel.
Speaker 3: Well, like gradually obviously from quitting my trading job and
Speaker 3: then going into naked harbers stuff, which was like sort
Speaker 3: of the icebreaker of me not having to work, you
Speaker 3: know with a whole bunch of other dudes and like
Speaker 3: sort of of integrating like you know, started to work
Speaker 3: with women and then started to you know, have a
Speaker 3: different sort of role that I had to play out
Speaker 3: job wise, and then obviously transitioning into and then but
Speaker 3: even from then transitioning into having a baby and then
Speaker 3: just being alone with the baby. I think it was
Speaker 3: a pretty good transition. I think I would have struggled
Speaker 3: a lot more if I was just went from straight
Speaker 3: trading hanging out with fifty dudes a day a day,
Speaker 3: you know, having the trading chat like this, and that
Speaker 3: going straight to looking after a baby would have been
Speaker 3: pretty hectic.
Speaker 2: That would have actually been nuts. Our last three questions,
Speaker 2: what is your favorite part of getting to do parenthood
Speaker 2: on your own terms?
Speaker 3: I guess my favorite part is I get to do
Speaker 3: within reason, like whatever I want every day, which is
Speaker 3: pretty good. Like, and I like to mix things up
Speaker 3: because I like to do different things. I don't like
Speaker 3: to do the same thing. I was brought up. We
Speaker 3: literally our family holidays, we went to the exact same camp,
Speaker 3: so for like fifteen years straight. So I was it
Speaker 3: was actually like really I was very conditioned to doing
Speaker 3: the same shit all the time, and I was like
Speaker 3: when I finally realized, I'm like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: just I just hate doing that. I like doing different
Speaker 3: things and it's so cool that I can like do
Speaker 3: that for Ivy and like show her that you can
Speaker 3: do different things growing up, you know. So yeah, we
Speaker 3: like we hit the road and we do heaps of
Speaker 3: different stuff.
Speaker 2: That's so funn Yeah, what's your favorite, like most random
Speaker 2: thing you've done with it? Oh?
Speaker 3: Actually, I think the most random thing I've done with
Speaker 3: Ivy is just one day I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 3: was such a perfect day. I'm like, oh, I remember,
Speaker 3: like when I was a bit younger, you just love
Speaker 3: going down to Byron Bay. So I was like, that's it.
Speaker 3: And we packed up one morning even like id even
Speaker 3: wasn't even planning, took Ivy down to buy and we
Speaker 3: had like little dam and Byron Bay by ourselves, like
Speaker 3: I had it in like the front carrier, like walking
Speaker 3: around Byron. I think it was like her first winter,
Speaker 3: so she was a little rugged up and it was
Speaker 3: she was just like loving. Oh gosh, yeah, it was
Speaker 3: pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Second last question, what is the best advice you've ever
Speaker 2: been given from anyone about anything?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a really good question almost, Like the main
Speaker 3: thing is like, you know, trust yourself, like you're on
Speaker 3: the right path and you're in the right moment exactly
Speaker 3: when you're meant to be in that right moment, like
Speaker 3: right now, meant to be in this podcast and studio
Speaker 3: talking to you, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's and it all and it'll all come together like
Speaker 3: in maybe three months, I'll be like, oh, it's so cool.
Speaker 3: I've got to talk about that in the podcast. You
Speaker 3: don't be abuse that information will be able to do
Speaker 3: something for that in you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. Our last question, what is one
Speaker 2: core belief you hold close to your heart?
Speaker 3: I guess like one of my core beliefs is like,
Speaker 3: treat people how you would want to be treated. I
Speaker 3: think that's probably like good one, one of the one
Speaker 3: that stuck with me, I think the most of the
Speaker 3: most I think about. I mean, that's what it's like
Speaker 3: a nice person, Yeah, because it's like I would expect
Speaker 3: them to treat me like that as well.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Thank you for your time today, Tim. We've loved
Speaker 2: having body, I love podcasting.
Speaker 1: We'll have to get you on more. I thank you
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