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Speaker 2: Hey Laura, question, if you were to go and see
Speaker 2: like one of your favorite artists but they said you
Speaker 2: weren't allowed to bring your phone, how would you feel?
Speaker 2: Would it bother you or to put you off going?
Speaker 1: How are they going to police it? Is my question?
Speaker 2: Okay, well I have that answer. So this is actually
Speaker 2: happening at the moment. Sabrina Carpenter has come out. She
Speaker 2: went to a concert herself in Las Vegas to see
Speaker 2: Silk Sonics, and part of that gig was the fact
Speaker 2: that you weren't allowed to take phones, so you had
Speaker 2: to put your phone away. It was like a no
Speaker 2: phone gig. She said she's never had a better experience
Speaker 2: at a concert. She was loving it. Everyone was dancing, engaging,
Speaker 2: That was like they were back in the seventies. And
Speaker 2: she's saying, well, maybe I'm going to consider no phones
Speaker 2: at one of my future concerts.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand the debate for it. I get it,
Speaker 1: like it must be annoying being on stage and everyone's
Speaker 1: actually just watching you and not really watching you. They're
Speaker 1: watching you through a phone. But I also think that
Speaker 1: there's positives to it too.
Speaker 2: I mean, she's not any one of the thinks this,
Speaker 2: Like multiple people have come out in the past, John Mayer,
Speaker 2: Billie Eilish have a listened to Billy's comment.
Speaker 3: All I ask is that we all try to live
Speaker 3: in the moment, and a lot of the time I'll say,
Speaker 3: put your phones away, but if you want a film,
Speaker 3: that's okay, just put it next to your face. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Look at me in my eyes,
Speaker 3: be here because this is the only moment we get
Speaker 3: to be in, this moment, and like, we're never gonna
Speaker 3: be right here this second, on this day and this
Speaker 3: age ever again, this is the only only moment we
Speaker 3: ever get ever. Ever. I do like it.
Speaker 2: Just before Laurie, you said, well, I could be doing
Speaker 2: a poo, and Laura's like, I could be on the
Speaker 2: toilet doing a poo and it will be the last
Speaker 2: moment I get.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 1: Okay. I love Billie Eilish, but that's one of those
Speaker 1: you have to be their moments to really feel the
Speaker 1: magnitude of it. Because when someone's like it's the only
Speaker 1: moment you're going to be here, that can be said
Speaker 1: about every second of your life. You could you could
Speaker 1: apply that logic to sitting on the toilet doing a pooge,
Speaker 1: Like we can't. Okay, I have multiple feelings about this,
Speaker 1: but I give.
Speaker 2: Me one feeling.
Speaker 1: We don't have time for multiple uncertainty. I think it's
Speaker 1: too hard to police. And my biggest issue with it
Speaker 1: is like it's okay to say, oh, look, you know,
Speaker 1: no phones or put your phones down, so then people
Speaker 1: like socially police each other. So if someone has their
Speaker 1: phone out, it's a bit like put your phone away.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that you could like stop people
Speaker 1: from bringing a phone into a venue for a massive concert.
Speaker 1: Imagine how long those lines would be. They're already too.
Speaker 2: Long, Laura. There is something called a secure pouch. What's
Speaker 2: it called grace. It's a Yonder patch, that's a Yonder pouch,
Speaker 2: and this is.
Speaker 1: Like a female feminine product, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yonder pouch. So they've got these pouches where I'm imagining
Speaker 2: it's a secure pouch. They can only be like it's locked,
Speaker 2: it can only be opened in certain parts of the venue.
Speaker 2: So maybe it's like the bar, or it's the entrance
Speaker 2: or toilet or whatever it is. But I'm imagining people
Speaker 2: line up and when you're scanning your tickets, you get
Speaker 2: a yonder pouch. They what you lock your phone in it,
Speaker 2: and then everyone knows you can't open it until you
Speaker 2: go back to this area. So you've got your phone
Speaker 2: on you, but it's not allowed to be used.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm sort of like, I sort of think it's cool.
Speaker 2: I understand why artists would say, hey, guys, surprisingly, we
Speaker 2: don't want to stare at your phone, like eighty thousand
Speaker 2: phones just looking at us. We'd love to be engaging
Speaker 2: with you and seeing your reaction. Are you enjoying it? Like,
Speaker 2: are you vibing it being the moment? But I also
Speaker 2: understand where we live in a day and age where
Speaker 2: that's also helping promote that artist totally.
Speaker 1: And I think like it's you've got to be in
Speaker 1: a pretty privileged position to say, oh, I don't need
Speaker 1: the promotion of people and their Instagrams.
Speaker 2: Like Sabrina Carpenter Ken say that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like most artists need their audience sharing it and like,
Speaker 1: you know, promoting it across socials and all that sks
Speaker 1: of stuff to be able to sell out venues or
Speaker 1: to get more eyes on the products that they're creating.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I remember this is not
Speaker 1: a new debate. I remember it was very very obsessed
Speaker 1: with John Mayer back in about twenty thirteen, and he
Speaker 1: came out saying that constitutor is different now. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't feel as though people are enjoying them when
Speaker 1: they're at my concerts. And then I go on social
Speaker 1: media to see how many people have shared it and
Speaker 1: what they've said about it, to actually get a gauge
Speaker 1: because people are watching me perform through a phone.
Speaker 2: Well, he actually said, funnily enough, I've got his quote here.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 2: People aren't going crazy, And I think to myself, I'm
Speaker 2: not playing a very good show, am I? And then
Speaker 2: I look out into the audience and they are going crazy,
Speaker 2: but not for me. They're applauding into the phone. So
Speaker 2: that sends back to like it must feel really hard.
Speaker 2: Imagine how insecure they are. It's like the John Mayer
Speaker 2: who was huge, and he's still on stage being like,
Speaker 2: oh god, these guys aren't enjoying this. Like no one's laughing, clapping, cheering, celebrating.
Speaker 2: They're just looking into their screen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the question is who's having a bad time. Is
Speaker 1: the audience still having a good time or is it.
Speaker 2: Just because of the person on that's why he doesn't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, But there is nothing worse than if you're in
Speaker 1: the standing area and some idiot in front of you
Speaker 1: has their phone out and you can't see over it,
Speaker 1: and you're watching the person on stage through their phone,
Speaker 1: because that's all you can see. That's why I see
Speaker 1: it is better Yep YONDI pouch.
Speaker 2: Here we come.