1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,159 Speaker 1: Christian Christian O'Connell show podcast. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: I was out walking my dog over the weekend, chatting 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: to two VIC police officers and they were chatting about 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: my dog, a German shepherd ofs And as they got 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: back in the car, there's two of them right, and 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: they obviously knew which one was the driver and which 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: one was the co pilot. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: And I was thinking, how. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Do they decide who gets to drive the police car? 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: Because you never see two police officers running and one 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 2: pushing the other one out the way and go shut gun. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: You drive everyday day? 13 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: They is it seniority? 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: Is that how it's decided who gets to drive the 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: police car and who is the co pilot? 16 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: Also a question is is it better to be the 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 4: driver or do they want to be the passenger? And 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 4: then you're on the CBE radio and looking out for 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 4: bad guys. 20 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: And also if you're on if you're the co pilot, 21 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: because you don't have a lot of rights as a 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: co pilot when you're in the car and you're at 23 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: the half is driving do you really you can't even 24 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: decide what's on the radio. 25 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: If you're the co pilot. 26 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 2: Are they guy the guy wan who then punches up 27 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: the button that presses up the siren to go, and 28 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: are they doing the walkie talkie stuff or units or 29 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: units to Coburg. 30 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: They're trying to reopen that drive through. Again, I think. 31 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 5: It's by rank. It's by rank as to who gets 32 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 5: to drive. So if you've got a constable as opposed 33 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 5: to a senior Connie, I think the senior member, Connie. 34 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 3: If I just said those guys, hey, Connie's let's try 35 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: talk talk, try about if. 36 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: They're not a constable or senior constable, they still have 37 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 2: someone will still have to drive the car. 38 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 5: Well, they're a rank of some sort, aren't they? 39 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: Of course they are. But how do they decide this? 40 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: So this morning I need to I need to know. 41 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: If anyone is a former serving police officer, can you 42 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: just please let me know how do you decide who 43 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: gets to drive the police car and who's the co pilot? 44 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to get any police in trouble if 45 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: you are a serving officer and you listen to us 46 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: right now, do they have car radios in there? 47 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 48 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: Surely, Yeah about if they need to hear as get 49 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: well wherever? 50 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: How does that cut into us? 51 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: I don't know. 52 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: You know, hey, where were you Unit fifty one? 53 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 5: Oh? 54 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: They were doing the secret sound on Fox. We were 55 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: lucky line nine. Get through what happened? 56 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: Mister bang Robber's getting away? 57 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: If your questions are, do you listen to gold or 58 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: do you listen to any radio in the in the 59 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: cup pit? 60 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do you? 61 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: Who gets to drive? 62 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: Also? 63 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: Another question you've just generated is it called the cockpit? 64 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: How do they get to decide who is that? Who's 65 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: driving and who's the co pilot? Now, if you are 66 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: a serving offers to listen to this, you can just 67 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 2: call us and tell us not fair. Obviously, I don't 68 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: want to get you in trouble if you stakeout right 69 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: now and the bad guys sneak out the back because 70 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 2: you're chatting to me. I just I'm just seriously have questions. 71 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: Who gets to decide who drives the car? 72 00:02:51,720 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Christian O'Connell show podcasting. 73 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 3: To this well star asking us when TV showed a 74 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: proper theme tune, we got jazz fault workout? Isn't it. 75 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: All right? 76 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 3: I have questions this morning. I want to know this. 77 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: The weekend, I was talking to two officers from VIC 78 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: Police and as they got back in the car. They 79 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: did it calmly and I was running. How do I 80 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: decide which one gets to drive the car? Who's driving, 81 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: who's the co pilot? On the line now, topefully shed 82 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: some light to what goes on inside the police cars. 83 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: We've got Kirsty on the line. Good morning, Kirsty, Good morning. 84 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: So Kirsty, you were a serving officer, yes. 85 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 6: About ten years ago now. 86 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: Right, brilliant? 87 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: Okay, And what can you tell us about how how 88 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 2: is it decided who gets to drive the car? 89 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 6: We're talking back in the early two albums. So senior 90 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 6: member Paul's rank is his choice where or not he drives. 91 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: Not so sometimes if he's not feeling he can go. Dave, 92 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: you drive today? I don't feel like it. 93 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 6: Well, there's pros and cons to being the driver. So 94 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 6: if you're the driver, then you get choice of all 95 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 6: the briefs of evidence against crooks. 96 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 2: So tell us a bit more about that. 97 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 98 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 6: Okay? So if you get so you catch someone for 99 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 6: a burglary, he can choose whether or not he wants 100 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 6: to charge defender and all the paperwork. 101 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: All right, Everything in life is admin, isn't it? Even 102 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: in this job we have Adminton. Also these days, I 103 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: guess an the amount of paperwork you have to do 104 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: is just bigger and bigger of a year. 105 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: Isn't it. 106 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 6: Look there was a heap of paperwork back when I 107 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 6: was in but I think everything's all computerized now. I'm 108 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 6: not one hundred percent right, Okay. So the thing with 109 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 6: the paperwork is if you were and we do call 110 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 6: them connies and senior connies, if you were the sorb 111 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 6: yeap very common. If you're the driver and you're going 112 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 6: and say for a detective position or if you wanted 113 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 6: to be a traffic police officer, you would drive so 114 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 6: you would get all the briefs of evidence and then 115 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 6: when you put in for a position, that would look 116 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 6: good on your resume, all right. 117 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: Because you need to be good at doing the adminber 118 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: because obviously the chain of evidence when it goes to 119 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: court to be everything's. 120 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 6: Going to be right, Yeah, pretty much. You want the 121 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 6: stets and you want the experience to in certain. 122 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: Briefts, right, and tell me this. Do you have a 123 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: car radio there? Can you listen to the radio? 124 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 6: Yes? 125 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: You can? 126 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. We had pretty just stock standard commodols and I'm 127 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 6: holding CD players a MSN CD players. 128 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Little Monday tape on and of course the first track 129 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: that's on there, well, we know what the track is, 130 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: is this. 131 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: Tearing around the streets, the mean streets of Melbourne. 132 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 6: Queen back in mild Station had the Benny Hill Sea music. 133 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 134 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 2: And tell me this then, who gets to decide who 135 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: gets to push the button that puts the siren blaring on? 136 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 6: Ah, that's a bit of a mix. 137 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: Two hands go at the same time and go oh, 138 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: I went first. 139 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 6: Do you what? Usually it would be the driver. It's 140 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 6: his choice for that. Everything else is pretty much done 141 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 6: by his partner. He's her partner, I should say nowadays. 142 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: Excellent. 143 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 2: All right, well listen, Donna, this has been very very interesting. 144 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for Kirsty. Kirsty, all right, sorry, 145 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,360 Speaker 2: I thought that was a pseudonym that you know, former 146 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: members of the four often do that. You know, there 147 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: was a trick they do, Kirsty, I knew that, Kirsty, 148 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: that's right. Donna's another friend of mine. Anyway, Kirsty, thank 149 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: you very much for the information today. 150 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 3: All right, have a good day. Bye by Christian 151 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: O'Connell Show Podcast