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Speaker 1: Let's get into it, because there really is so much

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Speaker 2: Good morning to your Chief Minister.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, Good morning listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now we know that it was an incredibly sad situation

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Speaker 1: So a twenty eight year old woman was declared deceased

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Speaker 3: Oh, Katie. An absolute tragedy and when I heard the news,

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Speaker 3: and to the others involved. And the first responder is

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Speaker 3: the people that came to the assistants. Just an awful incident,

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Speaker 1: Really don't, and it is so well made. It shocked

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Speaker 3: And Katie, you know our thoughts and our we're thinking

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Speaker 3: I understand it is not an African mahogany tree, Katie.

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Speaker 3: The Botanical Gardens they have a tree audit program and

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Speaker 1: So at this point in time, is it believe that

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Speaker 3: It seems that on face value, Katie, but police obviously

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Speaker 3: this matter. So you know, our park staff take great

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Speaker 3: but they will now take an extraordinary audit to ensure

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Speaker 1: And we'll do our best to keep our listeners up

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Speaker 1: to date with that situation throughout this morning. Now, Chief Minister,

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Speaker 1: you've just come from a press conference with Master Builders

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Speaker 1: in Tea who have commissioned economic advisory for ASYL Allen

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Speaker 1: can create an additional seven six hundred local jobs in

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Speaker 2: How does the government make this come to fruition?

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, this is a really exciting report. This is

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Speaker 3: Builders have facilitated this and a big congratulations to them.

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Speaker 1: How will we ensure that locals are going to get

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Speaker 3: So this is a significant report because it gives us

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Speaker 3: So clearly, Katie, it'll be a combination of growing our

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Speaker 3: This is independent, market tested and it's signals to the market.

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Speaker 1: We're talking though here about seven six hundred jobs between

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Speaker 1: Are we going to wind up in a situation though,

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Speaker 3: So Katie, impex was huge for our economy. But I'm

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Speaker 1: I mean, we have seen over the weekend some terrible

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, I think for your listeners, the Defense Strategic

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Speaker 2: All Right, I do want.

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Speaker 1: To move along because there's a lot to discuss this morning,

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Speaker 1: and John Howard and Tony Abbott have declared the Northern

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Speaker 2: What is your response to that?

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, the timing, Why is this suddenly an issue

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Speaker 3: Alis So, Katie, we are being used as a political

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Speaker 1: I mean. John Howard, though, told The Australian that he

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Speaker 3: So Katie to overcome our challenges. We need to see

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Speaker 3: off the back of that Central Australian Regional deal. But Katie,

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Speaker 1: So you reckon, you're going to start to see those

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Speaker 3: So Katie, we've seen and I don't have the figures

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Speaker 1: Want to move along because last week two women were

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Speaker 2: Has the government run out of ideas here?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Katie, we are invested right across and I point

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, we've got more police than on the beat

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Speaker 1: So what do you attribute the further increase in crime

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Speaker 3: To, Katie? And I need to make sure that I

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Speaker 2: What would you what do you attribute it to?

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Speaker 1: If what you're saying is that we've got more police

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, we know that domestic and family violence is alive.

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Speaker 1: We cannot attribute every active crime to domestic fold.

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Speaker 1: We immediately to keep people on the streets safe. You know,

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Speaker 3: So Katie, we've got a relatively new commissioner for police

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Speaker 1: But the police are doing their job, you know, that's

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Speaker 3: And so Katie working with police to understand what they

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Speaker 1: So at this point in time, I do like I

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Speaker 3: So Katie, just see your listeners have a sense of understanding.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want to ask you about the Tenant

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Speaker 2: Should he resign? Katie?

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Speaker 3: That footage is confronting. I've watched that footage and police

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Speaker 1: All right now, the COLP announced candidates to candidates for

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Speaker 3: And so we then work through whether some preselections are opened.

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Speaker 3: it would be conflicting for them. So we've got a

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Speaker 2: It just a very quick one.

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Speaker 2: Now Here assured us.

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Speaker 1: That women are being seen at the appropriate times, but

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Speaker 3: that are pregnant mother to be can have. It's the

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Speaker 3: nuclear translucency scans that are provided by multiple private organizations.

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Speaker 3: So when you for pregnant, you choose to go through

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Speaker 3: if you're a public patient, you can get additional scans

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Speaker 3: that you go and pay for with a private provider.

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Speaker 3: Our scans that are provided within the public system, they're

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Speaker 3: generally around twelve weeks and then again at twenty weeks,

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Speaker 3: but that can be between eighteen and twenty two weeks

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Speaker 3: are being provided. There is no delays. My understanding is

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Speaker 3: these are additional scans that people get through private providers.

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Speaker 1: Some are saying that that's not the case, that it's

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Speaker 1: not actually those the nukal ones sit they're delayed on.

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Speaker 1: It's like the twelve week scan that they're trying to

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Speaker 1: get in for and they're having to wait weeks after

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Speaker 1: they're meant to get in for that scan.

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Speaker 3: So, Katie, you spoke to Jeremy Chin, the medical co

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Speaker 3: director of Obstetrics and Gynecology at Royal Darwen Hospital last week.

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Speaker 3: He leads an excellent team there that provide amazing care. So, Katie,

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Speaker 3: the people should, if they're worried about their healthcare, talk

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Speaker 3: to their doctors and nurses at their appointments. There's a

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Speaker 3: patient advocate if they're not worried about if they're worried

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Speaker 3: about that process. And we also have the Health Complaints Commissioner,

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Speaker 3: so we're open to criticism in this space. I rigorously

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Speaker 3: go back and ask questions because I was concerned when

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Speaker 3: I heard of it on face value. And that's the advice.

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Speaker 3: And you've spoken to Jeremy as well.

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Speaker 1: All right, we are going to have to leave it

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Speaker 1: their Chief Minister Natasha Files, always appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, take care,