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Speaker 1: Matt, you know what my favorite part of watching arm

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Speaker 1: celeb was go on? Probably when you swallowed that anus. Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: but of course your friendship that you formed with none

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Speaker 2: But be honest, what was it more the anus or

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Speaker 2: Reggie Bird, My beloved Reggie Bird. Reggie Sorenson, as some

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Speaker 2: people may know her, she is an incredible person. She

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Speaker 2: is for sure. Reggie is, of course, a two time

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Speaker 2: winner of Big Brother Australia.

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Speaker 1: That's out standing. Despite the Big wins, though life wasn't

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Speaker 1: exactly a guaranteed golden ticket.

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Speaker 2: Reggie's faced more challenges than most, from growing up in

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Speaker 2: Tazzy with her mum's struggles with schizophrenia, to her own

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Speaker 2: diagnosis of Usher's syndrome, which is left to navigating the

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Speaker 2: world with pinhole vision.

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Speaker 1: She's doing all this while raising two teenagers, Mia and Lucas,

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Speaker 1: which we know Lucas has cystic fibrosis. Reggie opens up

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Speaker 1: about what it's like raising teens while dealing with vision loss,

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Speaker 1: the financial situation of post reality TV life, and how

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Speaker 1: she's preparing for the future.

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Speaker 2: With outside Plus. She shares how she stayed resilient through

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Speaker 2: it all and her conversations with Mia and Lucas about

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Speaker 2: facing adversity.

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Speaker 3: Shall we let's do it?

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mum.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mattie, Jay.

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Speaker 4: I'm Ash and oh yes, I'm Reggie.

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Speaker 2: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,

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Speaker 2: it is the bad, and it's the relatable rage. We

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Speaker 2: don't give any advice legally, we're not allowed to.

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Speaker 4: It's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's definitely, it's a great thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well maybe you can.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you can provide some advice, but no pressure, no pressure.

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Speaker 4: Advice on what how to look after a kid or anything.

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Speaker 2: Advice on winning ruffles, best fish and chips.

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Speaker 1: We'll take how to ween big brother, anything like that,

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind. I really want to start way

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Speaker 1: back when a young Reggie.

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Speaker 4: What was she like young, like growing up young that young?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, as a child, a teenager if you will,

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Speaker 4: Will, or hated the teenage years, especially hated fourteen. Well,

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Speaker 4: turning fourteen, you know, like you start to grow boobs,

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Speaker 4: and you got acne and you know, and you start

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Speaker 4: I was getting bullied at schools.

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Speaker 2: What do you get bullied for? Reg Oh, I.

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Speaker 4: Got bullied a lot at school because a lot of

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Speaker 4: the girls thought that I was after their boyfriends. But

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Speaker 4: I wasn't allows I wasn't allowed to have a boyfriend

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Speaker 4: in and I got bullied a lot because I had

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Speaker 1: Were you a class clown or were you more of

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Speaker 4: No, I did sort of play up a bit at school.

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Speaker 4: I do remember letting a fire extinguisher off in the classroom.

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Speaker 5: So everyone has a fire extinguisher story.

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Speaker 2: Why did you let the fire extinguisher off?

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, I did say I accidentally leant on it,

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Speaker 4: because I was like naughty. And then I ended up

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Speaker 4: leaving that school. So I went to Rakeby High School

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Speaker 4: for seven and eight. It was quite a rough school.

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Speaker 4: I grew up in a rough area, very like housing committe.

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Speaker 4: Guts. Yeah. And then I went to year's nine and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bloody, brutal. And then and I got in so

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Speaker 4: Well, I felt like a little bald badger. By then.

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Speaker 4: It was like yeah, nice, nice, It was good. It

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Speaker 4: I felt so sorry for her growing up through high school.

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Speaker 4: She had really hairy legs like me as well. And

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Speaker 5: But I think that's good parenting if you ask me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do you think like, because because I got

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Speaker 5: I think that's outstanding parents. Yeah, I think that's a

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Speaker 1: I used to get bully for my shoes at school,

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Speaker 5: So I think you've done the right thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shoes was another thing. You know, I had to

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Speaker 4: So do you know what desert beets are.

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Speaker 2: Like, the like, the like the leather clarks clarks still.

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Speaker 4: Well, desert beats are like brown kind of sprady.

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Speaker 2: I used to own a pack.

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Speaker 5: Well, now I know what you're talking about. They became

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Speaker 5: you were an icon? Is that what you were? A

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Well, for the record, Rage, you're you're a

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Speaker 4: I think you.

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Speaker 2: I don't see any semblance.

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Speaker 5: And you are an icon.

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Speaker 4: Look what icon I would have looked like one of

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Speaker 2: No, Hey, Reggie, I want to talk about Big Brother,

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Speaker 2: just really quickly, because I think there's a there's definitely

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Speaker 2: be sitting on millions of dollars because she's one Big

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Speaker 4: So the first time around when I was married to Adrine. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: after win winning Big Brother, so I paid off the house.

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Speaker 4: Hang on, it must have been about one hundred and six.

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Speaker 4: I failed at meth school, just trying to work it

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Speaker 4: So when I and then when I moved to Sydney,

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Speaker 4: And I with the unit that I rented, I had

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Speaker 4: Then I was getting stalked by the guy that made

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So and I lived off the rest of the winnings

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Speaker 1: So you I mentioned you walked away from the walked

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I was with Adrian for gosh, nearly twelve years.

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Speaker 4: because I'm like, I wanted a holiday to get out

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Speaker 2: How often did you get a holiday when you're working

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Speaker 4: No, not much at all. Because I did go to Europe.

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Speaker 4: Me and Adrian ended up going to Europe. I might

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Speaker 4: I need a break. So that's when I applied for

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Speaker 4: Big Brother. And then things happened. I found out after

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Speaker 4: like Woman's Day for example, bastards, why are they talking

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Speaker 2: Yeah at the time, Raad, you were working in the

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Speaker 2: And then if you're not staying a top of cystic

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Speaker 4: Oh, they go downhill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah what does that look like? And then you know,

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Speaker 4: they pump really strong iv antibiotics into his body to

442
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 4: and that's for two weeks at a time. They go

443
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 4: in and do that to try and get on top

444
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 4: of it again. So we call it tune up to

445
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 4: get the body back working properly again for a bit, and.

446
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: Then how are you communicating that to Mia your first order,

447
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: because obviously it must so much of your energy and

448
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: attention must go towards Lucas.

449
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was awful, you know, looking back, I used

450
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 4: to feel guilty because me, I would want to you know,

451
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 4: poor little darling of a nighttime she would want a

452
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: bedtime story, you know, and but I'm like, oh, I've

453
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 4: got to give Lucas his physio. So it was a

454
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 4: lot of time was spent with Lucas and on Lucas.

455
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 4: And I feel like she's grown up missing out on

456
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 4: that attention, which is really sad. Like I feel bad

457
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 4: that that the way that I did that as a mum.

458
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 4: So I look back now and I wish I had

459
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 4: put aside that time for me and I didn't give

460
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: her as much time as what I should have. Yeah,

461
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: she's sort of grown up now. I feel like she's

462
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 4: she's really felt.

463
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: But do you know what, I don't know if ashes

464
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: are same, But there are so many moments that I

465
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: have as a parent with Marley and Lola where they

466
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: want one more piece of me and I can't because

467
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: of work, or I can't because my attention is drawn elsewhere.

468
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: So just just know that. You know, there's moments, so

469
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: many moments where I feel like I should have given

470
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: more and I couldn't. And you know, I get that

471
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: parent guilt as well.

472
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 4: Shit, yeah, well I guess it happens to us all. Yeah,

473
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 4: but yeah, I do feel bad for not giving her

474
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 4: that attention.

475
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: No I don't.

476
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 5: What's your what's your relationship like with me? Like these days?

477
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 5: She's ulterately eighteen seventeen.

478
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 4: She turns eighteen next week.

479
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 2: Oh oh, how are you feeling about that? Oh?

480
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: Look, well I was excited that she got a license.

481
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 4: So she got a driver's license when we're in the jungle.

482
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 5: Very cool.

483
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I couldn't wait to get in the car

484
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 4: with her. In the minute I did, I'm like, shit,

485
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: get me out of here. She's got a lead foot.

486
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 4: But she's turning eighteen, and hopefully she goes out and

487
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 4: has a bit of fun and steers clear of bad things.

488
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 4: You know, you're worry about the kids, been me drugs

489
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 4: and oh just this whole she's about to experience that

490
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 4: whole nightclub world. So I mean back in the day

491
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 4: when I went nightclub and all I did was dance

492
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,719
Speaker 4: or you know, you just dance. But these days staff

493
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 4: knows what they take to stay up all night because

494
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 4: I'm not into that shit. But yeah, I'm a bit

495
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 4: worried about her turning eighteen.

496
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: It's a scary phase where they're becoming little adults and

497
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: you step back and include yourself, but at the same

498
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: time you're like, I still want to hold her hand

499
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: and pick her up from the nightclub every evening.

500
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 4: Yes, that na. Look. I went through the phases of

501
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 4: her hating school and not wanting to go to school,

502
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 4: but she ended up making it through to the end

503
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: of school, which was really really good. So she's turned

504
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 4: out to be a good girl. She really has.

505
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 2: Oh she's amazing, Ash.

506
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you merry.

507
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 2: Something else you've spoken a lot about is your eyesight.

508
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, my eyes are shit.

509
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: For those that's a good for those who don't know.

510
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: And for Ash, what was the moment where you realize

511
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: you might have an issue with your eyesight?

512
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: I found out about my eye disease, which is called

513
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 4: retinitis pigmentosa, was when I went to work at Virgin

514
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 4: and I was training in Melbourne in the training, we

515
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 4: had to work with people with disabilities, and this blind

516
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 4: lady came in and she spoke about how she went blind.

517
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 4: And one of the first things she said was I

518
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: couldn't see in the dark. And I'm like, shit, I

519
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 4: can't see in the dark. I can't see in the dark.

520
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: And she said, you need to go and get your

521
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 4: eyes checked, and I did. I went to an optometrist

522
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 4: and they said, no, you need to go to an ophthalmologist.

523
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 4: And I went to the ophthalmologist and they said, oh, well,

524
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 4: you got these iro disease and it's retin, it's pigmentasa

525
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 4: and you're going to go blind. And I was like,

526
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: oh shit, Like I didn't really think anything of it.

527
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: I really didn't. And then it wasn't until I moved

528
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: here when I was with Dale and I had mea

529
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 4: after I had Meya and Miya was crawling on the

530
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 4: floor and I used to kick her and trip aver,

531
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: the poor little thing. You know, I'd be walking along

532
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: and the next thing she's got a big kick in

533
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 4: the guts from me and yeah yeah, And he said, gon,

534
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: get your eyes checked again, and I did. I went

535
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: and got them checked. And then that's when they said

536
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 4: pretty much said you need to stop driving, and I'm like, shit,

537
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: so my whole will come crashing down.

538
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 5: Were you at that point?

539
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

540
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 4: So I was thirty four, I think when I had

541
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 4: Maya thirty four? How old am I now? I'm fifty

542
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 4: one now? Oh, I don't know. I think I was

543
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 4: about thirty four when I had to stop driving. Wow,

544
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 4: sixteen years.

545
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 5: What is it? Yeah?

546
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 4: So seventeen years.

547
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

548
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: I can't imagine having kids and not having not been

549
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: able to drive because because of because of it, it

550
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: must have How did you get around?

551
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 5: How was that hoful?

552
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: Yeah? Buses, buses and taxis and walk. So I walk

553
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: everywhere because a lot of people always go g legs,

554
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 4: g legs, legs, g read You got nice legs, That's

555
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: what I was trying to say, freshly shaved, those freshly

556
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: shaved legs. I'd say it's from.

557
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: Both Those kids from primary school could see it.

558
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: Now see these legs now, Yeah, it's from all the walking.

559
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: But that's how I get about. But it was really

560
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: hard when mel was a baby getting out and about.

561
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: It was just awful because where we lived it wasn't

562
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: too far to get to the shops, but it was far,

563
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 4: Like I couldn't carry a heap of groceries home, and

564
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 4: I'd always have a lot of trouble with taxis picking

565
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 4: me up because they're like because I knew it was

566
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: such a short drive, so it was really hard.

567
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 5: To get a selfish of them.

568
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you couldn't get a bus where I lived,

569
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: Like a bus would only come once an hour, and

570
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 4: it didn't stop anywhere near where I lived. And back then,

571
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 4: like you didn't have ubers, but it was super hard

572
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 4: to get around, and it was that's gosh. I think

573
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,719
Speaker 4: it was after I had Lucas. That was even harder,

574
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: having two little kids and just trying to bloody get

575
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: around was awful.

576
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: Ch did they tell you at that point what percentage

577
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: of your eyes like you'd lost and how quickly it

578
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: was it was going.

579
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, So at that time, I think when I got diagnosed,

580
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 4: I only I think I had about fifteen degrees of

581
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 4: vision left and now only fifteen I think back then

582
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: yet because it was below twenty because that's when you're classed,

583
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: or it might have been ten. Oh shit, because I've

584
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: only got nine eight or nine degrees left now, But

585
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: it was must have been about fifteen because I think

586
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 4: when it's below twenty degrees, that's when your class is

587
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 4: legally blind.

588
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

589
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 4: So, and then when I got diagnosed, they gave me

590
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: fifteen years time frame. They said I'll be totally blind,

591
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 4: totally blind within fifteen years. So I'm hanging on. I've

592
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 4: gone six years over that now, so I'm just hanging

593
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: on to that.

594
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 5: Little The joke's on them, then, I guess, and I've

595
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 5: got left so good on now.

596
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: That's why I get out and do whatever I can.

597
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: And when I had that opportunity to go into the jungle,

598
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, I'm taking this, you know, grab it

599
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 4: with both hands and just bloody go and have fun.

600
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 2: Do they tell you now, Rag, do they rediagnose how

601
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: much time you have left? Or do you want to know?

602
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: It is getting worse, Maddie. It's definitely getting worse because

603
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: I'm doing clinical trials as well. At the moment. I've

604
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: been on these trials for two years and I feel

605
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 4: like my eye like I don't know if I'm taking

606
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: the real drug or it's a plus ebo, but I

607
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 4: do feel like my eyes have got worse since I've

608
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 4: been on these trials. But it again, I don't know

609
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 4: whether it's my eyes deteriorating or it could be the

610
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 4: drug that I may be on. I'm not sure, but yeah,

611
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 4: I don't know because when I go and have all

612
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 4: these tests done, because it's a lot of testing, and

613
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 4: and you do the field tests, like because I've got

614
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: no peripheral vision at all, and yeah, so each time

615
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 4: they do the testing, they don't tell you, like on

616
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 4: the clinical trials, how much a vision I've got left.

617
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: It's not until I go and see my ophthalmologist and

618
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 4: I do same testing, and then they tell you if

619
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: I've lost more percentage each time I go there, right, Yeah.

620
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 5: And how long does the clinical testing last?

621
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 4: For us? It was meant to be a two year trial,

622
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 4: but they've now turned it into a five year trial.

623
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 5: Well, and like you said, you don't you don't know

624
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: if you're on the placebo or not. That's why, isn't it.

625
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy because when you go somewhere, like from

626
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 4: an example, going over to the jungle in South Africa,

627
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: you've got to write down all what medications you take.

628
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 4: And I had to get a letter. I'm ringing them.

629
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 4: I said, look, I'm going away, I need a letter

630
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: to say whether this is I don't know what they

631
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: write in these letters, but you know, to get a

632
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 4: pass to get it through customs and stuff. Yeah. Even

633
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 4: when I went to Bali last year with Phil, I'm like,

634
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: I was shit scared to take the tablets over in case.

635
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: It was like I didn't know. You don't know what's

636
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 4: in these things.

637
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: You've been taking cocaine for the last months.

638
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 5: I imagine you're logged in a valley jail.

639
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 4: Maybe that's why if brain's fried even more so.

640
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 5: Don't take them in a bodyboard bag.

641
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: No, no, so I don't know that. Yeah, the trials

642
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 4: has still got a long way to go, and it's

643
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 4: all about trying to slow down what vision I've got

644
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 4: left to try and say, yeah.

645
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: We know.

646
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: Going to the soup market is one of the hardest

647
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: moments with young kids, Yes, and it must be even

648
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: harder when you've got limited vision. With any scenarios in

649
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: the soupermarket where it was particularly challenging.

650
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 4: Oh yes, I got run over by this old man

651
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 4: on a big mobility skeeter. He made me down and

652
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 4: half of so sorry, hey, the old bugger he made

653
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: me down here. So I was walking to the twelve

654
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: items or less aile we miss our cream. And then

655
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 4: next I was walking with my cane, so I always

656
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 4: use my cane when I go into crowded places or

657
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: the shops, just to let people know, you know, I

658
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: can't see very well. And then he came down on

659
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: my right hand side and just rang me down. He

660
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: ran me down and I then he reversed back and

661
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 4: ran over me again, yeah, screaming at me. He's gone,

662
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 4: You're as blind as I am, yelling at me, and

663
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 4: I'm laying on the floor at you, and all I

664
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 4: could see was my sour cream on the floor. And

665
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 4: then I looked up. All these people were looking at me,

666
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: and they were staring at me. I was staying to

667
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: bloody ring me. Who's that hang up?

668
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Ah?

669
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: Sorry?

670
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: Yes, So he ran you over, then reversed back over

671
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: you and then yelled at you yes.

672
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: And then all these people were just staring at me.

673
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 4: And then this lady came and helped me, and all

674
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: I could see was her face. I was looking at

675
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 4: her face, and she helped me up, and she helped

676
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 4: me go to the counter to pay for my sour cream,

677
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 4: and the lady who works he she said, you okay,

678
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: REGI because I'm regular down at Woolies. And I said, no,

679
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: this man just rang me down. And she goes, what

680
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 4: in here? And I said, yeah, in here, and I

681
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: went and sat outside. I rang me here because I

682
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 4: was just with me and we had lunch and Maa

683
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 4: come over to help me and told her what happened.

684
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: And then she goes, mom, is that him? And she

685
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 4: saw him coming out of Woollies and I said, chase him.

686
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: I said, chase it's a hit and run a hit.

687
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 5: He just left.

688
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

689
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 4: So she took a photo of his number plate on

690
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 4: his scooter and then I after Woolies, they said, after

691
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 4: I sit that side, and the Woolies lady she said,

692
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: do you want to look at the footage?

693
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 5: Red?

694
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: And I said yes, I do. Oh no, I said, look,

695
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 4: I'll come back tomorrow. And I went back the next

696
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 4: day because I was so shook up. And I went

697
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 4: back the next day to look at the footage and

698
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: she said, sorry, it's against our legal rights to show

699
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 4: you the footage.

700
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: She's like, what footage?

701
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So she said you need to see the

702
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: police if you want to get the footage. So then

703
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 4: I had to go to the police with Roslind. She

704
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 4: took me and we got the footage and because I

705
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 4: just wanted to see what happened, you.

706
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 5: Know, do you have the footage?

707
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got the footage. I'd love to be yeah

708
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: show one day I will release the footage of me

709
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: getting Modan and woollies. Long story about me going to

710
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 4: the supermarket. But yes, it is hard going to the supermarket.

711
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 4: I've now got a favor of bloody mobility scooters.

712
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: I see them driving down the road sometimes and like

713
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: on the footpath little I don't know what's scary. The

714
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: kids on scooters are the old people on their mobility schools.

715
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 5: I'll never be able to look at one the same.

716
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 5: Be careful, I will be careful.

717
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: I can't believe the audacity to run you over, reverse

718
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: back over the top of.

719
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 5: You and then yell at you and then run the audacity.

720
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 2: Yes, rech with Lucas. Now is he fifteen?

721
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah he's fifteen. Yeah, he'll be sixteen this year.

722
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 2: And how's he going with cistic fibrosis? Now, how's he

723
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: managing it?

724
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 4: He goes to the gym. I've just signed him up

725
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: for rugby league. He's yet to have a game. He

726
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 4: went to the training the other week and he's going, Mom,

727
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: they're big boys, like he's going because he's in the

728
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: under sixteen. So I said, I said they're big. He goes,

729
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: they've got beds and I said, I know, Like, tell

730
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 4: me about it. They are all these big islanders, like

731
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: they're huge, they're messive. So I think he's a bit

732
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 4: worried he's going to get smashed because he's He's very

733
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: fast though. He's a fast runner, So I don't know

734
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 4: much of that wing. Is that what it is?

735
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: Put by the wing and he can just run fast

736
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: from them. That's the benefit of being fast.

737
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 5: They're usually slow.

738
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 4: Okay, so he's very very fast, So whatever. I still

739
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: don't understand that game. And anyway, it's stupid. I don't

740
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 4: get it.

741
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 2: It's it's where I played.

742
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: I was.

743
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: I was a little string bean, but I was quick,

744
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: and they were like, you can go on the wing. Yeah, okay,

745
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: So get his coach and just say put him on

746
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: the wing.

747
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: And put him on the wing. Okay. Yeah, So that's

748
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 4: what he does. He goes to the gym and he's

749
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 4: going to start doing that. He used to play basketball.

750
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 4: But again another thing happened. There was when they went

751
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 4: back the next season, all the boys just shot up

752
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: like they're huge. Anyway, Mum, it's too he goes, it's

753
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 4: too big for me. So he quit basketball.

754
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah it was too so he picked a more contact

755
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: sport with bigger people.

756
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: Does he want to play chess?

757
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know. I said maybe he should play.

758
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: He should play soccer.

759
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: I used to play.

760
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: I used to play soccer.

761
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 5: So here you go. He probably probably really good? Is

762
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 5: he is?

763
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: He is?

764
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 5: He still going to school?

765
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been hard this year because I pulled He

766
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 4: was at Helen's fail High and I pulled him out

767
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 4: of that because he was he wasn't really happy there,

768
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: so I've put him into another school and now I

769
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 4: think it's just the same thing. He's not real one

770
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: hundred percent happy here either, so I think school all

771
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 4: around is not Lucas's thing. So yeah, which is really hard.

772
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 4: So he's always been put in the hard basket all

773
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 4: through school with his illness, so he's never really enjoyed school.

774
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 4: So hopefully, I don't know, pull him out and put

775
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: make him get a job, you know, get an apprenticeship.

776
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: He wants to be an electrician or a carpenter. Or something,

777
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 4: So that'd be good if he did something like that.

778
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can imagine it would be.

779
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're already if school's not your thing,

780
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: and then of course he's got to manage his systic.

781
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: I'm guessing it's really really hard for him. Just so

782
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't. I left school at fifteen, and

783
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 5: I'm fine, good on you.

784
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: What did you do when you left school?

785
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: I left to do an apprenticeship too. I've had a

786
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,800
Speaker 1: million jobs since then. But it definitely like how Lucas

787
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: might be feeling, where it's like school is not his

788
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: thing and working with your hands and doing a trade

789
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: was actually really beneficial for me. So hopefully he can

790
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: find what's for him.

791
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: If there's any sparky companies or builders who listening to

792
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: the podcast who might be on the Gold Coast and

793
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: looking to take on a young kid, a whipper.

794
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 4: Whipper snipper, wheper snipper. Yeah, I think him getting an

795
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 4: apprenticeship would be great. It would really be good.

796
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: For him and Reggie at the moment. I know you've

797
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: spoken about the fact that like I'd love a job,

798
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: like I'd love I'd love something, and you're like, I

799
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: just need someone to give me a go. Do you

800
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: know what would be the dream job? Do you think

801
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: at the moment, at.

802
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 4: The moment, a dream job would be I'd love to

803
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 4: do radio, be awesome. I'd be great on radio, just saying,

804
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: but anyway, as long as I don't swear.

805
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: You'd be very good with your swearing on this episode, by.

806
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 5: The way, Yeah, I was going to say, I don't know,

807
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

808
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: He's done with the normal, Regie, I.

809
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 5: Know, go on, let a few out.

810
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: Oh look, I'm really bad. I'm really bad, even you

811
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: know when we're in the jungle, because we were told

812
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 4: it's a what is it? A PG show friendly time slot?

813
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 4: Very family friendly.

814
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: I had very talking about the whole time. I was too.

815
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: There's a lot Maybe that's why I didn't get much

816
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: eat time.

817
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe you could be a comedian. Reg I know

818
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 5: a lot of.

819
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 4: People have seen Reach. What do you do comedy? And

820
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I don't know.

821
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 5: Crack some jokes? Why not?

822
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

823
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 5: Maybe really good at it.

824
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: I don't know. Whatever comes out of my mouth just

825
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 4: comes out, you.

826
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: Know, naturally that's perfect for a comedian, right, Yeah, because Rege,

827
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 2: we can and we don't have to include this in

828
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: the episode if it's too personal. But at the moment,

829
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: being on a blind pension, how much do you receive

830
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: a week.

831
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: So being on a blind disability pension, because so I

832
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 4: used to get the family tax benefit thing, but when

833
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 4: when the kids leave school and stuff, you don't get

834
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 4: that anymore. So at the moment, I think it's around

835
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: thirteen hundred or fortnight and I pay six fifty a

836
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 4: week crent.

837
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: So there you go, jeus.

838
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 4: Leasure with nothing. It's like, yeah, yeah, so that's why. Yeah,

839
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: the second big brother, a lot of the money's been

840
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: lived off and read.

841
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: I know, like you're such a positive person and you

842
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: smile through it, but do you have that worry of like, shit,

843
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: you know, I really need to get something to sink

844
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: my teeth into.

845
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 4: I should get totally Like even with you know, me

846
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: and ride my mate Roddy, we're always doing stuff and

847
00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 4: trying to, you know, get my social media page up

848
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 4: and the numbers up on them, just so I can

849
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 4: just try and do stuff. You know, I need to

850
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: get a job. But yeah, it's really hard because being

851
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 4: vision impaired you're limited to what you can do. So

852
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 4: and yeah, blind disability pension doesn't cut like these days.

853
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: I'm very I'm thankful that I get something, but with

854
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 4: the rentals these days, it's just insane how much rent

855
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 4: people pay these days. It's crazy and it's only going

856
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: to get worse and it's going to get harder. So yeah,

857
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 4: I need to get an income coming in because I'm

858
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 4: really startmer ship yourself.

859
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you ever hesitant to let people know about

860
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: the fact that you're blind because it just instantly paints

861
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: you as being a certain type of person?

862
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: No, not at all. I'm yeah, Like like when I

863
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 4: first found out about my blindness, I was. I remember

864
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: when the very first time I had to wear my

865
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 4: disability badge, like my my blind badge, lay vision badge.

866
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 4: I was so embarrassed. And when I used my cane

867
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: for the first time, I was so embarrassed. I was

868
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: so embarrassed and I didn't want to use it. But

869
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 4: now I couldn't do without both of them. So no,

870
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 4: I'm happy to let anyone know that you know, I'm

871
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 4: vision impaired and legally blind. Even though I get bagged

872
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: a lot now after going on Bloody, I'm a celebrity.

873
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 4: Get me out of here. All the trolls on. They're saying,

874
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 4: I'm faking it. So you were a good guy dog

875
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 4: for me, Maddie in there.

876
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: I pulled you into a couple of trees.

877
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 5: You did, you did? Tell me? You did? Tell me?

878
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: That was just testing outing me.

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Speaker 4: Tell you about the rock that he used to make

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Speaker 4: me trip on so i'd fallen, Grabby's.

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Speaker 5: Tell me tell me about a rock? Is it a

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Speaker 5: penis shaped rock or a rock shaped peenis?

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Speaker 4: There was a rock and he try and because walking

884
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Speaker 4: it to the waterfall, it was a real battle. It

885
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Speaker 4: was a trick, wasn't it, Maddie, Like it.

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Speaker 2: Was camp Everest.

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Speaker 4: Oh my godness, it was so hard. And he take

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Speaker 4: me along this path of the rocks and yeah, no

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Speaker 4: I did. It did make me fall and I did

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Speaker 4: accidentally grab his penis.

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Speaker 5: And what did you think about the penis red?

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Speaker 4: Well, we just got out of the water, which was

893
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Speaker 4: freezing cold, and I must say it wasn't shriveled up.

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Speaker 5: That's all right. I heard the big ones hurt. Well

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Speaker 5: that's what my wife tells me. Anyway, Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So now I'm happy to let people know that

897
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Speaker 4: I'm vision and pair just grab.

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Speaker 5: Them on the penis don't know.

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Speaker 2: Read one question we always end on. When Mia and

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Speaker 2: Lucas have flown the nest no longer with you, is

901
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Speaker 2: there anything that you would like them to remember about

902
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Speaker 2: the house they grew up in?

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, it's hard many because I rant we've moved

904
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Speaker 4: that many bloody times now. It's shit because the owners

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Speaker 4: either more.

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Speaker 2: About the type of mum that they had growing up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh that'd be good. Yeah, because we've moved about

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Speaker 4: six seven times now. The house they grew up Oh Jesus,

909
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Speaker 4: the mum that they grew up with would be a kind,

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Speaker 4: loving mum that tried to do the best that she

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Speaker 4: could for them.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's awesome meeting you. I think that they're

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Speaker 1: very lucky to have you. And you're very, very kind

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Speaker 1: and very loving and I really appreciate the time that

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Speaker 1: you spent with us.

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Speaker 4: Oh, thank you for having me on. I hope this

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Speaker 4: has been a boys.

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Speaker 2: No, it's been amazing. Thank you so much, Regie. And

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Speaker 2: for the record, I think you're a great mum.

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Speaker 4: Thanks. Maybe, yeah, I do the best that I can.

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Speaker 5: Good. Thank you so much again. Reggie.

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Speaker 2: Oh mate, I don't know how Reggie does it. If

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Speaker 2: you want to keep up with Reggie, make sure you

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Speaker 2: check out the show notes for all the links to

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Speaker 2: a social media.

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Speaker 1: And while you're there, give us a follow and a rating,

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Speaker 1: why not a subscription? Share it with a friend.

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Speaker 2: Five stars, maybe a couple of stars, Hey, maybe just

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Speaker 2: a couple. Just be free, three, four or five you

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Speaker 2: We haven't had a one or two or three star lately,

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Speaker 2: not have we had one at all.

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Speaker 5: It's been a while.

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Speaker 2: But hey, if you're listening to this and you think

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Speaker 2: we're shit, we want to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't see you next time.

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Speaker 2: Bye. Two Doting Dad's podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of

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Speaker 2: country throughout Australia and their connections to land, sea and community.

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Speaker 1: We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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Speaker 1: and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestrate islander

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Speaker 1: peoples today