Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload, the podcast last week Their Life. Hey guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for clicking or downloading. On today's episode with Winner, the
Speaker 1: eleventh eliminated contestant from this year's Australian Survivor, which is
Speaker 1: now on Network ten, I will be talking about his
Speaker 1: time in Samoa and of course what he thinks now
Speaker 1: that the smoke has well and truly been snuffed out
Speaker 1: on his torch. Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels is a
Speaker 1: show tow that pits the winners against the underdogs and
Speaker 1: the big wigs against the battlers, with each player competing
Speaker 1: for the grand prize of half a million dollars. Winner
Speaker 1: is known across TikTok for his champion food eating and
Speaker 1: is from New South Wales, Sydney. After being left out
Speaker 1: of the first vote of the season, Winner made a
Speaker 1: rebound finding a hidden immunity IDOL and then found his
Speaker 1: strategic footing after the tribe switch. However, at the first
Speaker 1: merged vote, Winners Kockin has proved to be his undoing
Speaker 1: as he called for clarity amongst chaos which was met
Speaker 1: only with his blind side. Winner shares with me the
Speaker 1: secret from his childhood that will probably shock most of
Speaker 1: his followers and explain why food deprivation wasn't his biggest concern.
Speaker 1: We will talk about how Winterer nearly pulled out of
Speaker 1: a strand survivor at the last minute and who convinced
Speaker 1: him to stay. There is a huge revelation that JLP
Speaker 1: renegged on Winner's immunity necklace and what that might have
Speaker 1: meant for Winner's game moving forward. Plus we'll find out
Speaker 1: what Winner really thinks of his best mate Jaden's revenge
Speaker 1: plan and if he's actually happy to be avenged. There
Speaker 1: is so much to unpack with Winner today, and he's
Speaker 1: really fun to talk to. So sit back and relax
Speaker 1: as we dive just that little bit deeper into the
Speaker 1: world of Australian survivor.
Speaker 2: How's it going, I'm very well.
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 3: I've been saying I feel like I've just died on TV.
Speaker 3: It's like by Winner and all these posts on social media.
Speaker 3: It's funny as I feel like I've just died.
Speaker 1: Because you're looking in at it and you've had a
Speaker 1: TV death.
Speaker 2: Ultimately it feels that way I've died through.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember talking to a guy that was on
Speaker 1: Home and Away, Dita Brahma, who actually is now dead,
Speaker 1: but I remember talking to him and he had a
Speaker 1: TV deap. He played a character on Home and Away
Speaker 1: and he said that experience was really quite surreal for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got proper emotional. It was like, because I
Speaker 3: real leave everything. The whole show feels like a vlog,
Speaker 3: like a family vlog.
Speaker 2: You real live again.
Speaker 3: It's like rewatching a holiday, and every part of it
Speaker 3: I remember like it was yesterday. So seeing me leave,
Speaker 3: I just remember the emotions that happened because it was
Speaker 3: such a good blindside as well for me to leave.
Speaker 3: It was a perfect day for me to leave. It
Speaker 3: was such a shock and all those emotions came back
Speaker 3: and it was like, wow, I was actually proper sad
Speaker 3: leaving at that point.
Speaker 1: Now you're making me emotional.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because like a day on Survivor feels like
Speaker 3: a week, and it feels like you've been living with
Speaker 3: these people. You don't have contact to your loved ones
Speaker 3: and friends back home as well. This is your new family,
Speaker 3: and it's like you get separated from them. It's like
Speaker 3: you don't know when you're going to see them next,
Speaker 3: even though you're going to see each other in like
Speaker 3: a few weeks, but it felt that way. You get
Speaker 3: sent off and the buye is so short, it's like
Speaker 3: see everyone, an instant silence, like you're alone.
Speaker 2: Now, time for some.
Speaker 1: No one seemed to know what was going to happen
Speaker 1: in that tribal council.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was chaotic.
Speaker 3: I think maybe because there were so many ad mergers
Speaker 3: as well, so many conversations. And on top of that,
Speaker 3: that storm that was happening the two days. The camera
Speaker 3: couldn't really capture it. It was actually messed like it
Speaker 3: was piercing down rain, it was freezing. The wind was crazy,
Speaker 3: like I can't even put it to words. I've never
Speaker 3: been in weather like that in my life. Couldn't even
Speaker 3: hear each other talking, and we're all scrambling what's the plan.
Speaker 3: And on that day, obviously the day before Scott had quit,
Speaker 3: and Scott quitting and telling you know, everyone the plans
Speaker 3: that Valerium, Mark and I had just like it.
Speaker 2: Led to an explosion.
Speaker 3: Kitty was like very she's very direct, you know, and
Speaker 3: black and white so she's like, did you write my
Speaker 3: name down?
Speaker 2: Did you write my name down? To everyone?
Speaker 3: And it was just like there was no slyness to it,
Speaker 3: and anyone having a conversation everyone else would be thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: they're thinking something.
Speaker 2: What are they're plotting now?
Speaker 3: Why various talking to Kitty wise eat and talking to Alex,
Speaker 3: you know, things like that.
Speaker 2: So it was crazy, the craziest scramble ever.
Speaker 1: You know, something seems to have gone with Kitty, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, for the start off, it was like a
Speaker 1: lukewarm character in the background, and then now it's.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, one hundrederstand I mean, it was probably the
Speaker 3: first time she felt that she was in danger.
Speaker 2: I guess she was quite always.
Speaker 3: Safe with the middle aged Mafi and whatnot.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we.
Speaker 3: Got to see like the fiery Kitty come out for
Speaker 3: the first time, which was which is awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't mess with her. I'm actually scared of her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, to be the beast, I mean, she has like
Speaker 3: some world record, some deadly thing.
Speaker 1: Was Eden right to say that the tribal Council will
Speaker 1: really determine what's going to happen next and is setting
Speaker 1: up what's going to happen moving forward.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I was saying that morning in my
Speaker 3: confessional that was it was similar to what happened with
Speaker 3: my tribe swap. We have a majority and then a
Speaker 3: few minorities. But fortunately for us back then, the majority
Speaker 3: was split right down the middle, and it was exactly
Speaker 3: the same sort of environ. We had Caroline's team versus
Speaker 3: like my team with Val and Mark, and it was
Speaker 3: us against each other, and Ferris Raymond Eileen were going
Speaker 3: to be the deciders that night, so they didn't really
Speaker 3: have an alliance. Those guys had each other from the
Speaker 3: get go. From the beginning, they didn't need anyone. They
Speaker 3: weren't waiting for anyone when merge came, so when they
Speaker 3: got there, it was just like them in the middle
Speaker 3: and us fighting against each other. So I said that
Speaker 3: morning Ferris and Eileen Raymond were going to be the
Speaker 3: ones deciding who goes home. It was probably my downfall
Speaker 3: for not doing more damage control with Ferris. I obviously
Speaker 3: back stabbed in with the get Garack thing, and it
Speaker 3: wasn't really shown, but that was a massive like backstab
Speaker 3: on my end. Like I built a very strong relationship
Speaker 3: with Ferris quickly and Garrick as well. And I love
Speaker 3: both of them, but just given the strategy we wanted
Speaker 3: to play, had to get rid of Garrick. But like,
Speaker 3: I can see why there's so much resentment from Ferris's
Speaker 3: end towards me.
Speaker 2: So it was the perfect.
Speaker 3: Explosion, you know, Scott quitting and telling everyone my plan,
Speaker 3: and I had the immunity necklace and I couldn't even
Speaker 3: use it. No boats happened. The next day came Ferris's resentment.
Speaker 3: All that coming together, it was like the perfect day
Speaker 3: for me to get home.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get back into some of this because
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, there's a lot to unpack.
Speaker 1: The question that keeps coming to me is how are
Speaker 1: you so thin if you're a champion food eater. I'm
Speaker 1: just a little perplexed about this because like I can't
Speaker 1: go to KFC without putting on one hundred kilos, So, like,
Speaker 1: what's your secret.
Speaker 3: I used to be very overweight when I was younger.
Speaker 3: I was enormous, like unhealthy, Like I've got knee problems.
Speaker 3: I've got like knock knees that happens when children are
Speaker 3: too overweight, and my knees full bent inwards. So I
Speaker 3: grew up in a ti restaurant. My family had a
Speaker 3: family business, So for twenty years of my life, I
Speaker 3: was in there just eating everything.
Speaker 2: I used to literally come.
Speaker 3: Home from school and I would put cheese on a plate,
Speaker 3: put in the microwave, and eat it.
Speaker 2: With a spoon.
Speaker 1: That actually does make a little bit more sense, because
Speaker 1: to me, I just kept looking at this very trimmed,
Speaker 1: terrific look and bloke and thinking, how the hell have
Speaker 1: you conditioned yourself into being able to eat a lot
Speaker 1: of that food.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I used to be very fat, and I went
Speaker 3: on like a little weight loss journey things. He's an exercise,
Speaker 3: and I do a lot of fasting during my comps
Speaker 3: when I used to do them more.
Speaker 2: I don't do them that as much anymore.
Speaker 3: But I'd be eating like eight ten thousand calories in
Speaker 3: the day and then I would I would fast for
Speaker 3: sometimes I did like two three day fast just to
Speaker 3: let it, you know, digest and sort of undo my sins.
Speaker 3: And I think that was why I was pretty excited
Speaker 3: about going on the show as well, like I've already
Speaker 3: done crazy fast and that I knew the hunger wouldn't
Speaker 3: really get to me. Lots of training and eating less
Speaker 3: for a short period of time after you gorge.
Speaker 2: It's a secret, but.
Speaker 1: You look good. So how did you get cast in
Speaker 1: a Strain and Survivor? You know you were super fan.
Speaker 1: Did they approach you? I'm assuming because you know you've
Speaker 1: made quite a bit of noise on social media apps
Speaker 1: like TikTok. You know there's a good chance they might
Speaker 1: have come for you there. What's the backstory to getting
Speaker 1: on a show like this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So they approached me? Are they approached me?
Speaker 3: And to be honest, when I got the message saying
Speaker 3: you know Survivor this that I thought it was a
Speaker 3: scam and I didn't even know what Survivor was. I've
Speaker 3: heard of it from one of my best mates from school.
Speaker 3: So I had a mate who would always wear the
Speaker 3: bas and his rooms got all this Survivor stuff and
Speaker 3: I never had any interest in it. And he said
Speaker 3: to me that, yes, the best show ever. You would
Speaker 3: do so well on this show. He's always said it,
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't really watch TV shows
Speaker 3: at all, and it only hit me when I was
Speaker 3: going through the casting process. It's like, holy moly, this
Speaker 3: is actually I might actually get the call up. And
Speaker 3: then when I did, I actually nearly didn't go on.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah, I nearly didn't go on.
Speaker 1: Because what was the hesitation?
Speaker 3: I just like I was so I still am. I'm
Speaker 3: so happy with my life, Like I've built my life.
Speaker 3: I've got an awesome job, you know, all my TikTok
Speaker 3: stuff I do on the sides, paying decent, and my
Speaker 3: life is just fun and awesome. Why would I want
Speaker 3: to be stuck on an island for two months away
Speaker 3: from my life, can't pay my bills, away from my
Speaker 3: loved ones and family.
Speaker 2: It didn't really appeal to me.
Speaker 3: And then the more I thought about it and talking
Speaker 3: to my mate, I was like, far out, Like so
Speaker 3: many people apply every year, some people would give up
Speaker 3: their right bullsack to go on this show.
Speaker 1: I don't know what my right bullsack, but you know, yes,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of people. I mean that's
Speaker 1: just me. I mean you're probably right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I've gone the opportunity to and I love
Speaker 3: the challenge of it, like I feel like I like
Speaker 3: to be stimulated in general, in all aspects of my life.
Speaker 3: I truly like like being challenged. And it's like winning
Speaker 3: five hundred K. And the more I thought about it,
Speaker 3: it's about social skills, about physical strength, being analytical, and
Speaker 3: I'm a firm believer that life is just sales in general.
Speaker 3: You know, whether you get the job opportunity or not,
Speaker 3: whether you can take that girl on the date or not.
Speaker 2: It's all sales.
Speaker 3: Building your value and conveying that, delivering that and making
Speaker 3: things come your way. And that's how I live my life.
Speaker 3: And the more I looked into the game, I was
Speaker 3: so excited, Like, You've got a bunch of random people
Speaker 3: from all walks of life, all ages, all cultures put
Speaker 3: in one spot that've all got their own techniques of
Speaker 3: how to build value, how to build relationships, and they're
Speaker 3: all fighting for five hundred k, putting themselves first.
Speaker 2: That is so fun. And it was like, fuck, yes,
Speaker 2: I'm out, I'm going.
Speaker 1: Did they talk to you about what the theme was
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, because I mean you specifically seemed like you
Speaker 1: suited your theme maybe a little bit more than some
Speaker 1: of the others. Was that in the initial conversation or
Speaker 1: did that come later?
Speaker 3: So we never said I'm a Titan, I'm a rebel.
Speaker 3: To be honest, it funny that you say that I'm
Speaker 3: more towards a titan because I feel like I should
Speaker 3: have been of the rebels.
Speaker 1: I think Titan. When I think of the amount of
Speaker 1: food you're eating, I think that's Titan. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: after watching your gameplay and I think this has happened
Speaker 1: for a few of a few of you, really these
Speaker 1: do start to think maybe it's the other way around.
Speaker 3: I feel like the edit hasn't really shown my gameplay
Speaker 3: much at all, like my confessionals and the way I
Speaker 3: thought and the way I navigated through the game. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I don't think it even
Speaker 3: matters what the theme is, like Titans versus Rebels. At
Speaker 3: the end of the day, everyone's got a split of both,
Speaker 3: I reckon.
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, it's just
Speaker 1: a really great way to set up a series. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we're watching the same format.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's not vital. It's not always vital,
Speaker 1: I should say, you know, I'm assuming last night's result
Speaker 1: wasn't the clarity that you wanted. What do you think
Speaker 1: about that speech now?
Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest, I think the way it
Speaker 3: was edited, it sort of looked like I just said
Speaker 3: that out of nowhere. But I was answering a question,
Speaker 3: and I still sick by it. It was sort of like,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter how long we talk at tribal for
Speaker 3: because everyone's going to be saying shit saying this, and
Speaker 3: that the clarity will come after the votes come out.
Speaker 2: That's sort of what I was saying.
Speaker 1: Well, what was the question then? So j Orp must
Speaker 1: have asked you a specific question.
Speaker 2: Is there clarity something that? And so he set you up.
Speaker 3: He set me up, and it made me seem like
Speaker 3: I'm just randomly saying that, like, guys, clarity is coming,
Speaker 3: Like but yeah, what I meant by that is just
Speaker 3: all the alliances, like the truth comes out with the
Speaker 3: votes and that trouble in particular, there was a lot
Speaker 3: going on and where people actually sit was about to
Speaker 3: be shown very soon.
Speaker 1: That felt like you were really kind of out of
Speaker 1: the loop. Who are you most shocked about?
Speaker 2: I actually wasn't shocked at all.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: I was shocked that it would happen that night.
Speaker 3: But everyone I thought that would vote for me voted
Speaker 3: for me, and everyone that was going to vote with me,
Speaker 3: and I knew wouldn't backstab me also didn't backstab me.
Speaker 3: So seeing it come up in that way I mean
Speaker 3: there was some satisfaction there to like my gauge on
Speaker 3: the game and where players sit. I knew eating they
Speaker 3: couldn't trust that closely. It was an arm's length alliance.
Speaker 3: Keaty and Caroline. I knew you never had any sort
Speaker 3: of loyalty towards me from the get go. They sort
Speaker 3: of stuck together, and I feel like we just censor
Speaker 3: them my gut feeling like it was never that genuine.
Speaker 3: There'd be comments like I think Eden said at merge
Speaker 3: he said, oh, I told you I would look after
Speaker 3: Jaden and bring him along, you know, like, there you
Speaker 3: go win.
Speaker 2: I protected Jayden for you. And I'm just sitting there
Speaker 2: thinking like, oh thanks, Eden.
Speaker 3: But really, I know for a fact that you didn't
Speaker 3: bring Jaden along because you wanted to look after him
Speaker 3: for me. You know, he was someone had voted with you.
Speaker 3: He would he just want to get through. He would
Speaker 3: have voted anything you wanted to say.
Speaker 2: And it was perfect for Jaden. He made it all
Speaker 2: the way through the merge. He navigated that.
Speaker 3: Well, but don't you don't come to me and say
Speaker 3: I did it for you when I like it already
Speaker 3: sends a lack of you know, it wasn't a genuine nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the generosity. Talking about Jaden, we saw a sneak peek,
Speaker 1: you know, of him getting pretty noisy about, you know,
Speaker 1: him revenging your demise. Ultimately, do you want him to
Speaker 1: avenge you? Do you want him to do that revenge plan?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I want him to revenge me, like
Speaker 3: I don't feel like, oh that guy got me, I
Speaker 3: want him to get him back.
Speaker 2: Not at all.
Speaker 3: It's more I want him to go as far as
Speaker 3: he can and the fact that this has triggered a
Speaker 3: fire in him for him to properly play the game.
Speaker 2: It really excites me.
Speaker 3: And Jada is actually so smart and clever, and I
Speaker 3: think through TV it sort of looks like he's not
Speaker 3: in touch with what's going on, but it's more his
Speaker 3: laid back nature. He actually is very socially aware, and
Speaker 3: as an alliance, I think he's probably one of the
Speaker 3: best people to align with because he's so loyal. He's
Speaker 3: black and white, which maybe is a downfall in this game.
Speaker 3: You know, if you don't like someone, you shouldn't just
Speaker 3: outright let them know. But yeah, I think it's time
Speaker 3: for Jaden to come out and for the people to
Speaker 3: see how good he is as well.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to happen. Do you think all
Speaker 1: these players that are still left in there wanting to
Speaker 1: revenge people? You know, we've got Valeria wanting to avenge Viola.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know if that's going to work well
Speaker 1: for their game plan. Shouldn't you just stick to what
Speaker 1: you were doing, because might it be a distraction to
Speaker 1: change some of your ideas on getting to the end
Speaker 1: just to you know, avenge someone exactly.
Speaker 3: I think I agree with you completely. I would have
Speaker 3: done the same. I don't think I would have thought
Speaker 3: of revenge at all. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: you came to this island trying to win that five
Speaker 3: hundred K, trying to be the last one there. Like, sure,
Speaker 3: people backstab you this that happens, but that's personal feelings
Speaker 3: that you have to separate from the game. We're going
Speaker 3: to see each other off the island in a few
Speaker 3: months anyway. Right now, you want to get to the
Speaker 3: next day and you want to be the sole survivor,
Speaker 3: so think about the steps that get you to that point.
Speaker 3: So I don't think revenge and you know, all that's important,
Speaker 3: but I can also see why it would be like
Speaker 3: satisfying to do that.
Speaker 1: A big talking point as well is, you know, did
Speaker 1: you think that Scott leaving the show should have allowed
Speaker 1: for your immunity to be used the next day? We
Speaker 1: saw you not being able to use that, and now
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about that online about what could have or
Speaker 1: should have happened in that scenario. I get the feeling
Speaker 1: that I think that they could have rolled the challenges again,
Speaker 1: because that's a big obstacle of the game where well,
Speaker 1: if he's winners immune, still we don't do the challenges.
Speaker 1: Where I think that they could have rolled those challenges
Speaker 1: again and then two people would have had immunity in
Speaker 1: that tribal council, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree. I you know, I won the challenge.
Speaker 3: It was so painful and I didn't even get to
Speaker 3: use it. And I think Scott quitting is external to
Speaker 3: the game, right like he I completely get him trying
Speaker 3: to quit, but why quit at tribal you know, why
Speaker 3: not quit the next morning after we vote, Like Scott
Speaker 3: was one of our crucial numbers we needed that night
Speaker 3: as well. And yeah, there was a moment I sort
Speaker 3: of went aside and just had to chat with some people,
Speaker 3: like just on like the internal gameplay, certain people were
Speaker 3: supposed to be voted out tonight. If you want to quit,
Speaker 3: that's completely fine, but that's external to the game. So
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right that you interfere with the
Speaker 3: game internally and say, you know, vote for me.
Speaker 2: Like all the mental health stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, fair enough, it's fucking horrible out there, but
Speaker 3: you're affecting the gameplay right now. Just do it tomorrow?
Speaker 3: One more sleep and yeah. I asked Jonathan specifically at
Speaker 3: travel that night, do I get to use this tomorrow?
Speaker 3: And he said yes, and then he got taken away.
Speaker 1: Well, there's a twist of that. It's interesting because I
Speaker 1: was thinking about this, so I wondered if coming off
Speaker 1: the back of having an immunity, you know, that kind
Speaker 1: of leaks into some false confidence that you have over
Speaker 1: the next twenty four hours. Did that kind of play
Speaker 1: into it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think the necklace the only thing I got from
Speaker 3: winning that was probably getting a target on my back.
Speaker 3: I was already too confident at that point in the game.
Speaker 3: I don't think the necklace changed much. I already I
Speaker 3: was quite confident in my physical ability to win challenges.
Speaker 3: That I'm the most athletic person out there, but relatively
Speaker 3: to the group, and I think I just got too comfortable.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a first time player. I don't have
Speaker 3: that much experience watching this show. I got too comfortable,
Speaker 3: and I think just given the numbers we had and
Speaker 3: just how the dynamics of the group was, I was
Speaker 3: so confident that I didn't even bring my stuff to tribal.
Speaker 2: That's so confident I was. I wasn't going to get home.
Speaker 3: I left my pants, my bag, everything back at the
Speaker 3: camp and I went straight there. So it was the
Speaker 3: perfect blind side for me. I think if re voted
Speaker 3: for Caroline it was a tie, it would have changed
Speaker 3: the game completely because then.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was thinking watching that both times,
Speaker 1: Like I watched the series the episode twice, and I
Speaker 1: was thinking, that would have been amazing if you'd gone
Speaker 1: to Ree. And did you have a good relationship. Do
Speaker 1: you feel like, in hindsight that your relationship was with
Speaker 1: Ree was strong enough for you to be able to
Speaker 1: swing her vote to putting it on Caroline.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it was strong enough at all.
Speaker 2: At that point.
Speaker 3: I had only so Ree was the only person that
Speaker 3: hadn't met yet. I've met everyone from tribes FOP and
Speaker 3: og days, and I've Rea hadn't met yet. And I
Speaker 3: knew Ree was close to Kirby, and I had faith
Speaker 3: in Kirby's relationship with Ree to vote with us. And
Speaker 3: Ree obviously had that dilemma do I go with Caroline
Speaker 3: a new relationships call Kirby?
Speaker 2: And then she went bang down the middle, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: It did make sense, but it kind of felt like
Speaker 1: a fumbled handball in a way, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: had she taken control of her game, she could have
Speaker 1: made a bigger decision. You know. I kind of feel like,
Speaker 1: at this point, we've been set up to believe this
Speaker 1: was a Faerres Kirby battle.
Speaker 3: I'd say probably Caroline versus like vow vow Mark, I'd
Speaker 3: say more Kirby. I feel like was she was chilling out.
Speaker 3: It was funny because I was used to seeing Kirby
Speaker 3: versus Ferris. At that point the energy from both of
Speaker 3: the completely change. It was like, sweet, we made it
Speaker 3: to merge. We got our people, let's be low key,
Speaker 3: and they were sort of like just enjoying eating popcorn
Speaker 3: for Caro versus vowel group.
Speaker 1: I reckon, what do you think we're going to see
Speaker 1: in these final weeks that we lead up to that
Speaker 1: final tribal council. What are you envisioning is going to happen.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of loyalty in both groups and even
Speaker 3: Ferris's group, and I think it's going to be very
Speaker 3: interesting the way these groups work together. Like my night
Speaker 3: leaving was the first time we saw Caroline and Farris's
Speaker 3: group work together, which is crazy, Like, you know, they've
Speaker 3: barely ever had engagement with each other and they work
Speaker 3: together and yeah, I mean it's probably like most mergers
Speaker 3: and survivor, but it's an absolute shit storm now. It's
Speaker 3: a shit storm now, and there's bonds that are so strong.
Speaker 3: I'm very excited to see how Jaden goes because he
Speaker 3: voted with me, and in effect, he's broken the trust.
Speaker 2: That he built for so long.
Speaker 3: You know, he built all this trust with Caroline Eden
Speaker 3: Kitty and voted against them for me, and I'm super
Speaker 3: excited to see how he navigates through that. And it's
Speaker 3: the first time he's going to yeah properly, you know,
Speaker 3: show people what he's got.
Speaker 2: And now I'm super excited how.
Speaker 1: Many people are making it to jury? Have you made jury?
Speaker 3: I did not make jury, So yeah, interesting in that
Speaker 3: sweet spot of not making it to jury and going
Speaker 3: home post merge. So yeah, I'm not sure how many people.
Speaker 1: At least you made it. At least you made it
Speaker 1: to the you know, to the you know, to the merged.
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's what people want, right, you know,
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a pretty good effort.
Speaker 3: I've got a very good taste of everything. I feel
Speaker 3: like my first time on the show, never watched that many.
Speaker 3: I found an idol. I escaped the minority in the
Speaker 3: tribe swap, made merge, won the first individual individual immunity, Like,
Speaker 3: I got a taste of the whole Savary experience apart
Speaker 3: from jury.
Speaker 2: So I'm so grateful. It was straight up at top
Speaker 2: of my life.
Speaker 1: Well, you can come back for that. That's fine. I've
Speaker 1: been asking people in the game of Survivor if you
Speaker 1: can finish that sentence.
Speaker 3: In Survivor, I've learned that life is sales, just like
Speaker 3: how you should live your life.
Speaker 2: In Survivor.
Speaker 3: You need to build relationships, you need to build your
Speaker 3: value in the tribe. But the most important thing is
Speaker 3: to never be comfortable. When you're comfortable, that's when you
Speaker 3: should be uncomfortable. There is no certainty in the game
Speaker 3: at all. Certainty is uncertainty. So I'd say that's my biggest,
Speaker 3: biggest finding from my experience.
Speaker 1: Everyone who joins the podcast, I asked them the question,
Speaker 1: what is something from behind the scenes, something that we
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see, something from your time
Speaker 1: in Samoa that you can share with us.
Speaker 3: Ferris at Tribe Swap came out of the tenth and goes,
Speaker 3: holy fuck, who's underwear am I wearing?
Speaker 2: And Raymond's like, oh shit, are you wearing mine? Are
Speaker 2: you wearing mine?
Speaker 3: And then we're having a look at it, and then
Speaker 3: turns out it was mine. And then I said, Ferris,
Speaker 3: don't worry, bro, it's clean. Arrius is like, how is
Speaker 3: it clean? And I said, because I've been free bawling
Speaker 3: since day one.
Speaker 2: I haven't worn them at all.
Speaker 1: That's amazing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the funniest thing we know.
Speaker 1: I think you've given me. I think you've given me
Speaker 1: my best behind the scenes for this season Times versus Rebels,
Speaker 1: So thank you.
Speaker 2: That's okay, that's okay. Enjoy I hope enjoy.
Speaker 1: That, but we'll love it. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your generosity with your time and chatting with me today.
Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed watching you on the show. I think
Speaker 1: you did a fantastic job and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: see what you do next. I am following you now
Speaker 1: on all YouTube times.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: I got to get it back on my content, grand
Speaker 3: I haven't been posting it all out a free shed it.
Speaker 2: Thanks for your time today. It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. It was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. Mate, look after yourself.
Speaker 2: Thanks you too.
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