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Speaker 2: Sea earthquake cent enormous way. Since then, we've been here,

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Speaker 3: Social media, it changed through for rock or oil, wedding,

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Speaker 3: thee I following ninety lives Matter.

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Speaker 1: Quality for like a sentinel. We have watched over the

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Speaker 1: world since two thousand and five, and thanks.

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Speaker 2: To a detailed set of diaries that Jonesy has.

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Speaker 3: Kept for the kind of detailed.

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Speaker 4: But we do have a Time Travelers podcast of a

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Speaker 4: highly successful radio show. Highly successful a podcast of a

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Speaker 2: All right, well let's begin, shall we?

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Speaker 3: We come to twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: This is the last installment for twenty eleven in the

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Speaker 2: Time Travelers podcast. There will be other years, obviously, but

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Speaker 2: we're wrapping up twenty eleven. No, what was we in

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Speaker 2: twenty eleven? There was lots of things, But we've spoken

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Speaker 2: about the Radio Awards, or the Acus as we call them.

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Speaker 2: I'd forgotten until I saw a picture in your diary

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Speaker 2: there that I had hosted them with Kelsey Grammar. Kelsey

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Speaker 2: Grammar from Frasier. Because in the Radio Awards they have

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Speaker 2: guest speaker when it was John Cleees with Sharon Osbourne,

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Speaker 2: have Sharon Osbourne therefore hosting the Radio Awards with Mary Wats,

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Speaker 3: I remember that year very well.

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Speaker 2: But it was weird with Kelsey Grammar. I was so terrified.

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Speaker 2: He's a very nice man, but I didn't even get

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Speaker 2: have in common? What do we do? These days? The

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Speaker 2: And when I was having my makeup done beforehand, I

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Speaker 3: I remember there was the fandom of the opera.

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Speaker 2: I put a mask over half of my face.

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Speaker 2: That Kelsey's a very nice man, but he must have

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Speaker 4: I came up and I was probably about six beers deep,

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Speaker 4: because they don't, you know, up until recently, people don't

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Speaker 3: It's either I'm not very good or I'm just not

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Speaker 2: No, it's not true. They just needed a girl to

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Speaker 4: I was six beers deep, and I'm interesting myself, I said,

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Speaker 4: I work with the Manda. It is lovely man. He's like,

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Speaker 2: But he brought his wife with him, who her name

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Speaker 3: Kelsey's had a fraud upbringing, hasn't.

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Speaker 3: A long term marriage. You'd be due for another one.

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Speaker 2: another one? We should put that to cash number one.

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Speaker 3: How many years ago?

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Speaker 3: Twenty eleven, twelve twelve years isn't that amazing? Do we

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Speaker 2: Turn up unless they know they're going to win. I

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they did win, and that was back when they

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Speaker 2: that we're sitting with all our radio colleagues. We're working

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Speaker 2: They put us pretty much in one. And on my curtains,

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Speaker 2: Oh, Brendan, don't horrify me, now, don't horrify me. Now.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get out that DNA light.

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Speaker 3: But you know we're not picking. We don't care about

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Speaker 2: No, we don't. And also we are very normal, normal people.

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Speaker 2: Mate, hang on a minute. I didn't know I wanted

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Speaker 3: Now I do where's my treatment?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Whereas so now every hotel room I go into,

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Speaker 4: I will say this though, since Kyle and Jackie I

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Speaker 4: they've been here. Well, because they've upped, they've made management

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Speaker 4: I like that, the aforementioned nice plane flights whenever we

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Speaker 2: Stuff we get right now they have to match us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn'tenough for people, you think, Well.

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Speaker 2: People say to me, or do you get picked up

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Speaker 4: Well, that was interesting back at twenty eleven when we

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Speaker 4: There was no way they TV couldn't. They didn't believe

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Speaker 3: And he goes, I'll tell you what. You do the

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Speaker 2: But also what it is.

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Speaker 4: So would you take that job if you were if

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Speaker 4: I like television. I think it's good. I think we

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Speaker 2: I would never have if this is so much better,

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Speaker 4: But I'm saying it on the radio, So how's it

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Speaker 3: So look at the light of TV streaming.

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Speaker 2: Well, you still have to have your local content. You

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Speaker 3: We should stream our show to stream it.

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Speaker 3: Now that there's a it's got a podcast now.

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Speaker 2: So what would you like to do? Just put a

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Speaker 2: that stream and it gets everything.

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Speaker 3: It just gets, you know, So.

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Speaker 4: The follows me to the toilet, how the songs are playing,

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Speaker 3: I think that would be interesting, don't you think?

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Speaker 4: I reckon, You could put that on Channel ten in

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Speaker 3: What's on Channel ten in the morning. No one got

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean here doing the show with you.

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Speaker 3: A long window time for a show.

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Speaker 2: No One TV's can't put that on a business card.

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Speaker 3: Let's close the chapter, do it?

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Speaker 1: Josie and Amanda take over carry Anne Friday at nine?

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Speaker 2: Why didn't that catch on?

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Speaker 3: Whatever happened to those guys.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back shortly with twenty twelve.

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Speaker 3: Good Day to you.

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Speaker 2: Catch Jonesy and Amanda's podcast on the iHeartRadio app or

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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcasts.