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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: We saw the Prime Minister yesterday speak about the young

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Speaker 2: woman who alleges she was raped in Parliament House. He

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Speaker 2: said that to completely understand how she felt, he spoke

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Speaker 2: to his wife, who said, you have to look at

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Speaker 2: it through the prism of being a father and how

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Speaker 2: you'd feel if this was your children. There's another family

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Speaker 2: that I'd appreciate him looking at and imagining what this

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Speaker 2: would be like if these were his children. This is

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Speaker 2: the family you may know of, a Tamil family who

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Speaker 2: had been living in Billa Wheeler in Queensland for years

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Speaker 2: and big members of the community in Billa Wheeler working there,

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Speaker 2: so making their children there.

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Speaker 1: They were on the boat they so Yes.

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Speaker 2: The husband and the wife, Priya and Nardes, came separately

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Speaker 2: to Australia by boat in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: They have two children born in Australia, Kopica and Tarnica,

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Speaker 2: who are now six and three. Now. They claim that

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Speaker 2: they came here because they were under persecution at home.

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Speaker 2: There is some dispute about that. That's what the government's

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Speaker 2: claiming is that, oh, well, the mother went back there

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Speaker 2: a couple of times during the Civil War, So how

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Speaker 2: bad can it be. There's so much legal ease involved

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Speaker 2: in this, it's mind blowing. The upshot of this is

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Speaker 2: that even though they were living in Billa Wheeler, supported

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Speaker 2: by the local community, which is what we want from

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Speaker 2: our refugees, earning money, children accepted in the community, much

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Speaker 2: loved members of the community. Well, they were taken from

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Speaker 2: their home in Queensland and put in detention in Melbourne

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Speaker 2: and then moved to Christmas Island. This was a thousand

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Speaker 2: days ago. This family have been in detention on their

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Speaker 2: own and Christmas Island for over one thousand days. It

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Speaker 2: has cost the Australian taxpayer over four million dollars to

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Speaker 2: keep them there. Extraordinary, isn't they But also this is

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Speaker 2: against international law to arbitrarily and indefinitely imprisoned children. Our

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Speaker 2: Foreign Minister yesterday joined a group of fifty five other

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Speaker 2: nations condemning arbitrary detention. Her own press conference yesterday said

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Speaker 2: the practice of arbitrary detention is against international law, and

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Speaker 2: she said Australia will hold other countries to account for this.

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Speaker 2: Here we are doing exactly this. It was in the

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Speaker 2: court again yesterday. I must say I'm finding it hard

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Speaker 2: to keep up with the legalese about this. There was

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Speaker 2: an application that one of the daughters had a right

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Speaker 2: to blah blah blah. There was a risk that they

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Speaker 2: could have been deported to Sri Lanka yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But those kids weren't born in Scheurich.

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Speaker 2: They weren't born in Sri Lanka. And I imagine most

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Speaker 2: of Australians want them to come back to Bill A Wheeler.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're keeping.

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Speaker 2: Them in isolation. These little girls have been in isolation there,

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Speaker 2: imprisoned for over a thousand days. And the deal, well,

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Speaker 2: it's all legalese. Peter Dutton can with a phone call

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Speaker 2: change this. The first time in my entire life, I

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Speaker 2: phoned a member of Parliament and said, can I please

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Speaker 2: speak about my displeasure and my disgusted unhappiness at this.

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Speaker 2: So that's where they are. And as I said, there

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Speaker 2: we were yesterday hearing our Prime Minister talk about how

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Speaker 2: he sees the world through the prism of his two daughters.

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Speaker 1: Here are two.

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Speaker 2: Little girls that how hard would it be to bring

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Speaker 2: these law abiding citizens back to the town where they're loved.

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Speaker 1: So let's see stumbling block there. As it's said Peter

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Speaker 1: Dutton saying, well, if I make this allowance for them,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to make it foreveryone.

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Speaker 2: Probably Yes, that's right. But these people are living on

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Speaker 2: their own in detention. It's extraordinary. And the legal ease,

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Speaker 2: as I said, is because there was a the Federal Court.

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Speaker 2: I'll read you the paragraph. This is what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 2: The Federal Court upheld a ruling that the government had

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Speaker 2: denied the youngest member of the family, Australian boy in Tarnica,

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Speaker 2: procedural fairness in the handling of a visa application. However,

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Speaker 2: the court also ruled that the Minister for Immigration did

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Speaker 2: not in fact have an obligation to allow Tarnica to

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Speaker 2: make an application for protection at all. The court action

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Speaker 2: prevents the blah blah blah blah blah blah. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's beyond me what all the legalies mean. But on

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Speaker 2: a humanitarian level, what harm can they be doing? Bring

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Speaker 2: them back?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just you know, and it's not like they're coming

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Speaker 1: out here and shooting each other up.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, this is a perfect example of how refugees assimilated.

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Speaker 2: How what a better example could we have.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Pete hasn't had a look in his inbox.

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Speaker 2: Probably he's had a big look, but we need to

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Speaker 2: urge him to do more.

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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's sa