WEBVTT - FULL SHOW: Laura's MIL got scammed in Europe 🌍

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<v Speaker 1>Laura, come on, hello, mis churie.

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<v Speaker 2>We love you here at the pickup. That was so connocent.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like the cousin.

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<v Speaker 4>No one wants a Christmas we love it's actually forced

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<v Speaker 4>to do with.

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<v Speaker 5>You just about to go live, and she goes, let's

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<v Speaker 5>all say hello at the same time, and then Laura

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<v Speaker 5>and I just looked at him blankly.

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<v Speaker 3>One job, you have to dry like a clown.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a clown, happily, but an adorable clown. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>take you.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the show, Welcome to Wednesday. So Ben and

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<v Speaker 5>I have been having like this age old debate. It's

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<v Speaker 5>so cliche. Yeah, my fiancee ban Sorry, I thought you

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<v Speaker 5>guys were sick with hearing me to say the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Fiance Neil engaged a couple of weeks deep.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you put your chocolate in the fridge or the

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<v Speaker 5>pantry pantry?

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<v Speaker 6>And the fridge changes every pantry It changes texture, it

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<v Speaker 6>changes the hardness, it changes the smooth meltability.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, okay, that makes it snappy like crunchy.

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<v Speaker 5>We are literally buying a block of chocolate. Then we

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<v Speaker 5>have to snap it in half, and then I have

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<v Speaker 5>to wrap mine up and glad wrap to put in

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<v Speaker 5>the pantry, I was thinking the same thing, calling off

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<v Speaker 5>that again.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you can find someone better match to you than that.

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<v Speaker 6>I know, I hate him already.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with you. But here is Swiss and of chocolate,

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<v Speaker 3>barthplace of chocolate.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe he's onto something, but that's what he's telling me, right,

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, babe, if anyone knows chocolate, it's the Swiss,

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<v Speaker 5>Like we are, without doubt, and they are. They do

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<v Speaker 5>amazing chocolate. But once you put chocolate in, and I

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<v Speaker 5>know people are in the car right now and you

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<v Speaker 5>fridge or your pantry, but once you put chocolate, like

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<v Speaker 5>think of a gooey soft caramel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. That's in the fridge, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to break a tooth off. It loses it like

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<v Speaker 2>all deliciousness. Anyway, let's get on with it.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's just say do what you want to do and

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<v Speaker 4>whatever makes you happy. Next, Laura's mother in law. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, she got scammed, poor Ellie, didn't. She wash

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<v Speaker 4>was overseas, she did.

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<v Speaker 6>We've been talking a lot about scamming recently. And look

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<v Speaker 6>she you know, she's in her seventies. She traveled to

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<v Speaker 6>France by herself. I was like, so proud of her

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<v Speaker 6>that she did get scammed along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a bit of a psa almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gotta have your wits about you, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's next.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the Piggert.

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<v Speaker 6>So recently we've been talking quite a bit. Seems to

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<v Speaker 6>be a recurrent theme on this show. We've been talking

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<v Speaker 6>about scams. Yeah, right, being scammed, which I think most

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<v Speaker 6>people would like to think that they are above being scammed,

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<v Speaker 6>but it is surprising how often it happens and to

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<v Speaker 6>the types of people that happens to.

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<v Speaker 2>We even spoke to Sam Fisher, amazing musician.

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<v Speaker 3>She exists on This is Sam.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Then we spoke to him about how he got scammed

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<v Speaker 6>from from a bank call and look, it didn't turn

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<v Speaker 6>out too well for him.

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<v Speaker 7>Have listened to this, Okay, So this was like five

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<v Speaker 7>pm in the afternoon. I'm in the UK. I get

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<v Speaker 7>a text saying, Hey, did you spend five hundred and

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<v Speaker 7>forty one dollars and whatever cents at this place in Austin, Texas?

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<v Speaker 7>And I was like no, no, And then they sent

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<v Speaker 7>another text that was did you spend one hundred and

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<v Speaker 7>whatever dollars in this place in Texas?

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<v Speaker 2>It's escalating now I'm not in Dexas.

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<v Speaker 7>And then it was like, call this number and it

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<v Speaker 7>was like from my bank, and I called and they

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<v Speaker 7>had the exact same automated voice, and so then I

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<v Speaker 7>was literally on the phone for like hours and they

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<v Speaker 7>were like, oh, we know, we need to do security questions.

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<v Speaker 7>They were like, what's your like mother's maiden name, what's

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<v Speaker 7>your They got your dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>Name, was like you thought you were verifying because I

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<v Speaker 3>see the answer, but here's where I should have stopped.

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<v Speaker 7>So I would give an answer, and then I would

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<v Speaker 7>get a security code and they'd be like, can you

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<v Speaker 7>read me the car? And so they got into my

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<v Speaker 7>online banking and they still fourteen thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>If it could happen to celebrity Sam Fisher, could happen

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<v Speaker 3>to anyone.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, it did happen to someone someone very dear to

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<v Speaker 6>me recently, So you guys know we've spoken to her

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<v Speaker 6>many times in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellie Johnson. She is my mother in law.

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<v Speaker 6>Recently she retired and she went on an amazing trip

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<v Speaker 6>to France.

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<v Speaker 2>So she went away for a couple of months.

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<v Speaker 6>It was like the trivial lifetime and on the first

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<v Speaker 6>week of her being over there, she called us and said,

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<v Speaker 6>I think I might want to come home because you

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<v Speaker 6>heard it she got scammed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, welcome to the show, Ellie.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Ellie, where were you? And what happened?

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<v Speaker 8>All right? I would say that in the first forty

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<v Speaker 8>eight hours I was scammed about twelve hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, Ellie wasn't just scammed once.

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<v Speaker 6>She was scammed a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 8>I know it looks and I honestly consider myself a

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<v Speaker 8>fairly experienced, well traveled person. The first scam and I

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<v Speaker 8>really think it's worth while letting people know that. I

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<v Speaker 8>was told that I would need a transit V in

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<v Speaker 8>Singapore and the best thing to do was to apply

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<v Speaker 8>for it before you left Australia. So they said, just

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<v Speaker 8>google Singapore Visa blah blah. So hup, pops up this

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<v Speaker 8>official form, filling it in and then suddenly a payment

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<v Speaker 8>form came up and I sat, oh, there's a charge.

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<v Speaker 8>Build it all out. But then there wasn't an amount shown,

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<v Speaker 8>but it went straight back to the application form, which

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<v Speaker 8>I built in and I got my visa. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>until I checked my statement that I was charged almost

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<v Speaker 8>two hundred dollars for the visa. I checked with my

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<v Speaker 8>travel agents and they said, there is no charge for

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<v Speaker 8>a transit visa.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's these websites out there that are fake websites

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<v Speaker 6>and the charge you a fee to process the visa

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<v Speaker 6>for you.

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<v Speaker 8>I didn't cancel my card. I alerted the bank that

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<v Speaker 8>it was a scam.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, scam aside? Was there any in France?

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<v Speaker 8>I love the music, but one thing, and look you knew.

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<v Speaker 8>Might think, oh, come on, you made bus mistake. But

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<v Speaker 8>I knew to get a taxi from Paris. Got to

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<v Speaker 8>the airport, knew that my taxi fair would be about

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<v Speaker 8>fifty three euro to the hotel. I knew not to

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<v Speaker 8>connect with all these guys who are approaching me. No, no,

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<v Speaker 8>no want of legit taxi. Got to the exit doors

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<v Speaker 8>at the airport, big sign taxi gentlemen came up, madam,

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<v Speaker 8>would you like me to organize a taxi? It was

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<v Speaker 8>pouring down with rain. Oh that would be lovely, thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>Thinking he was an official taxi guy, he then talked

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<v Speaker 8>to a younger guy who escorted me. He said, look, madam,

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<v Speaker 8>it's raining. You get in the car. I will take

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<v Speaker 8>your bags. That I will take the trolley. I didn't

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<v Speaker 8>check that there was a meter in the taxi and

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<v Speaker 8>that was not one hundred and thirty europe.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh no, but Ellie, yeah, you still had an amazing

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<v Speaker 9>trip and you have managed to avoid Mitch's one question

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<v Speaker 9>that he asked, and that is amongst all the scamming,

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<v Speaker 9>was there any French love?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I could kind of pretend that that was twus.

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<v Speaker 8>This starg came was to the chaputi, which is like.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a salami, but not one that not that kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you've heard of Emily in Paris. It was his

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<v Speaker 3>car Elle, No, we got that here.

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<v Speaker 8>It was his cocko vam.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh well, Kelly, this is a This is a three

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<v Speaker 6>PM radio show Paris.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Eli in Paris. I want to watch that Netflix series.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about love.

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<v Speaker 5>Next up, we're going to be talking about green flags dating.

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<v Speaker 5>When you when you're in those early stages, you go

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<v Speaker 5>to someone's house, what's the green flag?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 6>So often in relationships we talk about red flags that

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<v Speaker 6>the things that you need to look out for, especially

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<v Speaker 6>if you're in the early stages of dating, Like, what

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<v Speaker 6>are those red flags that could indicate that that person

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<v Speaker 6>that you're going on dates with.

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<v Speaker 2>Is actually a bit of an ahole. I bought mission.

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<v Speaker 6>Just get out of there real quick, like another girlfriend

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<v Speaker 6>or yeah back. But it's like, what are the things

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<v Speaker 6>that might indicate that they have another girlfriend, Like maybe

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<v Speaker 6>they're secreted with their phone, or they wedding band yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>or a.

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<v Speaker 3>Date they put their phone face down on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe they'd been polite. No, man, that's a red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a big faced out all the time, it's been

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<v Speaker 2>polite with those around you. It also could mean that

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<v Speaker 2>you're texting another.

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<v Speaker 6>Guy rude to wait stuff red red flag. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 6>so this is it. Everyone knows the red flags like

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<v Speaker 6>they are, like there's a lot of them and they

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<v Speaker 6>are very common. But there is an article it's going

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<v Speaker 6>viral and red at a thread at the moment where

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<v Speaker 6>everyone is talking about green flags. Now, I think we

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<v Speaker 6>need to start celebrating or talking more about the things

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<v Speaker 6>that we should be looking out for, especially if you're

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<v Speaker 6>walking into someone's house and you're sussing out where they live.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe it's a one night stand, maybe you're thinking about

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<v Speaker 6>dating them, and you're like, uh huh, okay, they have

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<v Speaker 6>that thing there that's a green flag.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a man who has his shit together, but he

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<v Speaker 2>knows what to do. What's an exam?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, So I have an example of one of these

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<v Speaker 6>green flags for me walking into a man's bathroom and

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<v Speaker 6>him having any type of shampoo and conditioner. That is

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<v Speaker 6>not a two in one. That's a green flag. That's

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<v Speaker 6>a man who takes a little bit like he takes

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<v Speaker 6>a bit more sort of you know, responsibility in the

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<v Speaker 6>way he looks, and he he has moved on from

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<v Speaker 6>being a teenager in my eye.

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<v Speaker 5>But what if that is also indicative of friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Conditions here doesn't mean he's got a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I do agree with you, Britt.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that there is a paper thin fine line

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<v Speaker 6>between something being a green flag and something actually being

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<v Speaker 6>an indicator that maybe they have a female in their life.

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<v Speaker 6>Like ASoP, Yeah, that's a rich green flag. That's not

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<v Speaker 6>a green there's a girl there. Yeah, they're loaded.

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<v Speaker 4>He You know mine is if you're walking, if you've

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<v Speaker 4>got like a date or hookup, you walk into his

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen and there is used cooking stuff, like there's olive

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<v Speaker 4>oil out, or there's pans that he's just recently used.

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<v Speaker 3>That man cooks, he can provide cleanup. He still left

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<v Speaker 3>this stuff out not messy.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, there's a big difference between a kitchen

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<v Speaker 4>that's not the kitchen that's got stuff active ingredients.

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<v Speaker 5>I like the cooking thing because I can't cook, So

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<v Speaker 5>a man that can cook for me like good.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>If you walk into a house and they have like

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<v Speaker 5>photos of their family are like, they're really wholesome family people,

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<v Speaker 5>like if they've gone to the effort to frame a

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<v Speaker 5>photos the photos of their family, but not of their

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<v Speaker 5>family with their wife in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Also a great indicator.

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<v Speaker 3>Obsessed with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am okay. What are your green flags? This one?

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<v Speaker 2>I care about a lot real house plants.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if you can keep a house planet alive,

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<v Speaker 6>that shows that you were responsible.

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<v Speaker 2>At all, you're a man. I will datestal like clean air.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your green flags you look out for?

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<v Speaker 8>My green flag is a plain house and like if

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<v Speaker 8>it doesn't smell life dog, I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 7>La La.

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<v Speaker 5>A clean house could be indicative of psychopathycho path which

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<v Speaker 5>you have Serial killer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's because Laura's house is so messing.

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<v Speaker 6>So picky.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, you have to do a reality dating show

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<v Speaker 4>to find your husband because you're insane.

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<v Speaker 2>She's insane, that's true. Well, I think it has to

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<v Speaker 2>be a little bit between.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you don't want the house to be so

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<v Speaker 6>clean that that person is going to be like anal

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<v Speaker 6>to be around, that they're going to be like, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 6>where's that bullgo goes back in the You know someone

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<v Speaker 6>who's clean.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're coming up from a date, Laura's like, yes, Laura.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, this meal you made me in your kitchen. Then

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<v Speaker 4>you got photos of your mom. Do you think you

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<v Speaker 4>are cleaning for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm the red flag you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's where we've leared. Sarah, Hi, what's what's

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<v Speaker 3>your red flat or your green flag?

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<v Speaker 8>Sorry this could be contentious, but someone that asks us

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<v Speaker 8>you leave.

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<v Speaker 9>Your shoes at the door, taking your shoes off?

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<v Speaker 2>No, do you know what? I used to be on

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<v Speaker 2>board with that.

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<v Speaker 5>When I used to go to Peel's house and then

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<v Speaker 5>say to leave your shoes at the door. I used

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<v Speaker 5>to think, Okay, crazy person. But I recently read a

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<v Speaker 5>study about how dirty your shoes are and walking that

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<v Speaker 5>into someone's house.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all about it now. I think take your shoes off.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish my husband would pay attention.

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<v Speaker 5>To like pooh, when stuff is on your shoes and

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<v Speaker 5>like bugs and gems and viruses.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 6>He always wears his joggers inside the house dories and crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen if you do in the date right, shoes end

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<v Speaker 3>up off anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so's everything else all right?

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of what I was painting a picture just lent.

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<v Speaker 5>In A very deep debate is going on in the

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<v Speaker 5>Hockley slash Hothy household. I say, Hothy, that's my sister

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<v Speaker 5>in law's husband.

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<v Speaker 2>So, my sister.

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<v Speaker 5>Sherry is pregnant about seven months now, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't quote me on that, but she's nearing the end.

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<v Speaker 5>And they've sort of been butting heads since well, even

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<v Speaker 5>before they conceived, Like it's always been that debate about

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<v Speaker 5>when we have a baby, will we find out the sex?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. My brother in law, Jay really really wants

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<v Speaker 2>to know.

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<v Speaker 5>He wants to be organized, he wants to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to plan, get his head around what it's going to be,

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<v Speaker 5>think of names.

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<v Speaker 2>My sister Sherry never wanted to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Now so far she has gotten away, like they haven't

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<v Speaker 5>found out right, and she's six or seven months, but

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<v Speaker 5>still Jay's saying, can we find out now?

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<v Speaker 2>There's still time, like, there's still eight weeks to go.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I've brought that conversation to my partner Ben,

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<v Speaker 5>because that's what you do, right, Like what would you

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<v Speaker 5>want to do in that situation? Ben really wants to

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<v Speaker 5>find out the sex too. I just think you have

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<v Speaker 5>such little surprises in life as it is, Like how

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<v Speaker 5>if you think as an adult, how often other times

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<v Speaker 5>where you're going to be that blown away on that level?

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<v Speaker 5>And so we're butting heads about what we would do

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<v Speaker 5>now too. What do you guys think? Are you like

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<v Speaker 5>pro finding out the sex?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, both both my kids were surprises, and we

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<v Speaker 6>spoke about this the other day, and I think it

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<v Speaker 6>comes down to the mum.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say this.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that some people won't agree with this, but

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<v Speaker 6>I really didn't want to know. My husband, Matt, he

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<v Speaker 6>was so desperate to find out the first time, he

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<v Speaker 6>was like, Okay, I know this is important. You've never

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<v Speaker 6>been pregnant before, we can have the surprise. The second

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<v Speaker 6>time I was pregnant, I was like, I want a

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<v Speaker 6>surprise as well, and he felt as though because it

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<v Speaker 6>was the second pregnancy, he should get us say and

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<v Speaker 6>we should find out what we were having But I

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<v Speaker 6>think if you're the one carrying the baby, if you're

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<v Speaker 6>the one doing all the work birth in it, you

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<v Speaker 6>have to push it out of you or pull it

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<v Speaker 6>out of you or however, it's like you're doing everything.

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<v Speaker 6>I think if you want to, if you don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to know, then that's your decision to make. And Matt

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<v Speaker 6>so he was like, well, I'll just find out. I'll

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<v Speaker 6>get the doctor to tell me and then you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be the one that knows and it can be

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<v Speaker 6>a surprise for you. And I was like, no, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't want to be the only one in that room

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<v Speaker 6>that doesn't know what's coming out at me.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's fifty to fifty your baby, his.

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<v Speaker 2>Child, Yes, but he doesn't have to do fifty to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty if the.

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<v Speaker 4>Work you Straight couples are the only couples I'm ever

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have a wife that I'm going to have a

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<v Speaker 4>decision with, Like.

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<v Speaker 5>If I still have this, you could still have this

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<v Speaker 5>conversation about finding out the sex of your baby if

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<v Speaker 5>it's a sorry, no, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>But my baby's no less my baby than surrogates. Just

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<v Speaker 4>because she's having it. She gives it there and goes it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in my womb.

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<v Speaker 7>I will not.

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<v Speaker 6>But the surrogate could find out what she's having. She

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<v Speaker 6>she's allowed to. She just you won't find out in

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<v Speaker 6>that instance, I wouldn't want her, okay, But what about

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<v Speaker 6>you and your you and your partner, what like, how

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<v Speaker 6>would you two men who were both having a surrogate

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<v Speaker 6>baby together, because you don't have the you don't have

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<v Speaker 6>the debate of like, well, I'm carrying the baby, so

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to I don't I'm not going to find out.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you navigate that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, might be a designer baby. I would have chosen

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<v Speaker 3>the eye color and the hair color.

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<v Speaker 6>And can't you can't choose a gender. Really no, you can't. Really, no,

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<v Speaker 6>they're not. They don't allow that, no kidding. So this

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<v Speaker 6>was like reverse.

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<v Speaker 5>My brother and his wife they had their first child

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<v Speaker 5>together and she really wanted to find out and he didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>He wanted a surprise. So again she's like, my body,

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<v Speaker 5>my choice kind of thing. I'm pushing it out, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>going to find out, and he's he's begging it.

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<v Speaker 2>Please don't tell me.

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<v Speaker 5>She's like, I'll find out. You don't have to when

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<v Speaker 5>the baby's born. That can be your moment, and Mitch

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<v Speaker 5>was like, but that's not gonna work. You're gonna slip

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<v Speaker 5>up in some capacity and you always do. So she

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<v Speaker 5>went and found out and he really didn't want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Lasted about four weeks and she blurted out, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I can't wait for him to come ruin the surprise

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<v Speaker 5>to my brother. But this is why it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 5>This is why I think couples need to commit to

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<v Speaker 5>the to the finding out or not finding out, because

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<v Speaker 5>you can't keep that secret for that long.

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<v Speaker 6>I agree, but there's there's just two types of people.

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<v Speaker 6>There's people who were organized who don't like surprises and

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<v Speaker 6>they want to know, and then there's people who quite

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<v Speaker 6>like the idea. But I agree with what you said

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<v Speaker 6>the bit start, Britt. There are very few things in

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<v Speaker 6>life that are happy surprises. Often when you're an adult,

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<v Speaker 6>the surprises that you have are not really very suit

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<v Speaker 6>job or yeah, they're the're things that you weren't prepared

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<v Speaker 6>for and they're horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of think in this instance, like what's waiting

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<v Speaker 6>another couple of months and there is nothing for me?

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<v Speaker 6>There was nothing more magical than like this baby being

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<v Speaker 6>there and finding out.

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<v Speaker 2>That she was a little girl.

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<v Speaker 4>This shocks me, Laura, like, because you just you're that's

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<v Speaker 4>You're not like you're very controlled with your life, like

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<v Speaker 4>you're across everything, like you you're very like with your

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<v Speaker 4>businesses or very planned.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm very not though, like in terms of I'm really

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<v Speaker 6>I'm a great facade that I've pulled you into thinking

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<v Speaker 6>of myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know she was pregnant when I came out.

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<v Speaker 2>I love chaos. I literally thought I had introgests came

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<v Speaker 2>out of baby. It was months dash Strogan, Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a big poop. Crying