Speaker 1: Laura, come on, hello, mis churie.
Speaker 2: We love you here at the pickup. That was so connocent.
Speaker 3: I'm like the cousin.
Speaker 4: No one wants a Christmas we love it's actually forced
Speaker 4: to do with.
Speaker 5: You just about to go live, and she goes, let's
Speaker 5: all say hello at the same time, and then Laura
Speaker 5: and I just looked at him blankly.
Speaker 3: One job, you have to dry like a clown.
Speaker 2: You are a clown, happily, but an adorable clown. We'll
Speaker 2: take you.
Speaker 5: Welcome to the show, Welcome to Wednesday. So Ben and
Speaker 5: I have been having like this age old debate. It's
Speaker 5: so cliche. Yeah, my fiancee ban Sorry, I thought you
Speaker 5: guys were sick with hearing me to say the word.
Speaker 2: Fiance Neil engaged a couple of weeks deep.
Speaker 5: Do you put your chocolate in the fridge or the
Speaker 5: pantry pantry?
Speaker 6: And the fridge changes every pantry It changes texture, it
Speaker 6: changes the hardness, it changes the smooth meltability.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, okay, that makes it snappy like crunchy.
Speaker 5: We are literally buying a block of chocolate. Then we
Speaker 5: have to snap it in half, and then I have
Speaker 5: to wrap mine up and glad wrap to put in
Speaker 5: the pantry, I was thinking the same thing, calling off
Speaker 5: that again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can find someone better match to you than that.
Speaker 6: I know, I hate him already.
Speaker 3: I'm with you. But here is Swiss and of chocolate,
Speaker 3: barthplace of chocolate.
Speaker 5: Maybe he's onto something, but that's what he's telling me, right,
Speaker 5: He's like, babe, if anyone knows chocolate, it's the Swiss,
Speaker 5: Like we are, without doubt, and they are. They do
Speaker 5: amazing chocolate. But once you put chocolate in, and I
Speaker 5: know people are in the car right now and you
Speaker 5: fridge or your pantry, but once you put chocolate, like
Speaker 5: think of a gooey soft caramel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. That's in the fridge, it's
Speaker 2: going to break a tooth off. It loses it like
Speaker 2: all deliciousness. Anyway, let's get on with it.
Speaker 4: Let's just say do what you want to do and
Speaker 4: whatever makes you happy. Next, Laura's mother in law. Oh
Speaker 4: my god, she got scammed, poor Ellie, didn't. She wash
Speaker 4: was overseas, she did.
Speaker 6: We've been talking a lot about scamming recently. And look
Speaker 6: she you know, she's in her seventies. She traveled to
Speaker 6: France by herself. I was like, so proud of her
Speaker 6: that she did get scammed along the way.
Speaker 3: It's a bit of a psa almost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta have your wits about you, all right,
Speaker 2: that's next.
Speaker 3: I'm the Piggert.
Speaker 6: So recently we've been talking quite a bit. Seems to
Speaker 6: be a recurrent theme on this show. We've been talking
Speaker 6: about scams. Yeah, right, being scammed, which I think most
Speaker 6: people would like to think that they are above being scammed,
Speaker 6: but it is surprising how often it happens and to
Speaker 6: the types of people that happens to.
Speaker 2: We even spoke to Sam Fisher, amazing musician.
Speaker 3: She exists on This is Sam.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Then we spoke to him about how he got scammed
Speaker 6: from from a bank call and look, it didn't turn
Speaker 6: out too well for him.
Speaker 7: Have listened to this, Okay, So this was like five
Speaker 7: pm in the afternoon. I'm in the UK. I get
Speaker 7: a text saying, Hey, did you spend five hundred and
Speaker 7: forty one dollars and whatever cents at this place in Austin, Texas?
Speaker 7: And I was like no, no, And then they sent
Speaker 7: another text that was did you spend one hundred and
Speaker 7: whatever dollars in this place in Texas?
Speaker 2: It's escalating now I'm not in Dexas.
Speaker 7: And then it was like, call this number and it
Speaker 7: was like from my bank, and I called and they
Speaker 7: had the exact same automated voice, and so then I
Speaker 7: was literally on the phone for like hours and they
Speaker 7: were like, oh, we know, we need to do security questions.
Speaker 7: They were like, what's your like mother's maiden name, what's
Speaker 7: your They got your dogs.
Speaker 3: Name, was like you thought you were verifying because I
Speaker 3: see the answer, but here's where I should have stopped.
Speaker 7: So I would give an answer, and then I would
Speaker 7: get a security code and they'd be like, can you
Speaker 7: read me the car? And so they got into my
Speaker 7: online banking and they still fourteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: If it could happen to celebrity Sam Fisher, could happen
Speaker 3: to anyone.
Speaker 6: Well, it did happen to someone someone very dear to
Speaker 6: me recently, So you guys know we've spoken to her
Speaker 6: many times in the show.
Speaker 2: Ellie Johnson. She is my mother in law.
Speaker 6: Recently she retired and she went on an amazing trip
Speaker 6: to France.
Speaker 2: So she went away for a couple of months.
Speaker 6: It was like the trivial lifetime and on the first
Speaker 6: week of her being over there, she called us and said,
Speaker 6: I think I might want to come home because you
Speaker 6: heard it she got scammed.
Speaker 2: Oh no, welcome to the show, Ellie.
Speaker 4: I was going to.
Speaker 2: Ellie, where were you? And what happened?
Speaker 8: All right? I would say that in the first forty
Speaker 8: eight hours I was scammed about twelve hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Ellie wasn't just scammed once.
Speaker 6: She was scammed a couple of times.
Speaker 8: I know it looks and I honestly consider myself a
Speaker 8: fairly experienced, well traveled person. The first scam and I
Speaker 8: really think it's worth while letting people know that. I
Speaker 8: was told that I would need a transit V in
Speaker 8: Singapore and the best thing to do was to apply
Speaker 8: for it before you left Australia. So they said, just
Speaker 8: google Singapore Visa blah blah. So hup, pops up this
Speaker 8: official form, filling it in and then suddenly a payment
Speaker 8: form came up and I sat, oh, there's a charge.
Speaker 8: Build it all out. But then there wasn't an amount shown,
Speaker 8: but it went straight back to the application form, which
Speaker 8: I built in and I got my visa. It wasn't
Speaker 8: until I checked my statement that I was charged almost
Speaker 8: two hundred dollars for the visa. I checked with my
Speaker 8: travel agents and they said, there is no charge for
Speaker 8: a transit visa.
Speaker 6: So there's these websites out there that are fake websites
Speaker 6: and the charge you a fee to process the visa
Speaker 6: for you.
Speaker 8: I didn't cancel my card. I alerted the bank that
Speaker 8: it was a scam.
Speaker 3: Wow, scam aside? Was there any in France?
Speaker 8: I love the music, but one thing, and look you knew.
Speaker 8: Might think, oh, come on, you made bus mistake. But
Speaker 8: I knew to get a taxi from Paris. Got to
Speaker 8: the airport, knew that my taxi fair would be about
Speaker 8: fifty three euro to the hotel. I knew not to
Speaker 8: connect with all these guys who are approaching me. No, no,
Speaker 8: no want of legit taxi. Got to the exit doors
Speaker 8: at the airport, big sign taxi gentlemen came up, madam,
Speaker 8: would you like me to organize a taxi? It was
Speaker 8: pouring down with rain. Oh that would be lovely, thank you.
Speaker 8: Thinking he was an official taxi guy, he then talked
Speaker 8: to a younger guy who escorted me. He said, look, madam,
Speaker 8: it's raining. You get in the car. I will take
Speaker 8: your bags. That I will take the trolley. I didn't
Speaker 8: check that there was a meter in the taxi and
Speaker 8: that was not one hundred and thirty europe.
Speaker 9: Oh no, but Ellie, yeah, you still had an amazing
Speaker 9: trip and you have managed to avoid Mitch's one question
Speaker 9: that he asked, and that is amongst all the scamming,
Speaker 9: was there any French love?
Speaker 8: Well, I could kind of pretend that that was twus.
Speaker 8: This starg came was to the chaputi, which is like.
Speaker 2: It was a salami, but not one that not that kind.
Speaker 3: Well, you've heard of Emily in Paris. It was his
Speaker 3: car Elle, No, we got that here.
Speaker 8: It was his cocko vam.
Speaker 6: Oh well, Kelly, this is a This is a three
Speaker 6: PM radio show Paris.
Speaker 3: Now Eli in Paris. I want to watch that Netflix series.
Speaker 2: We're talking about love.
Speaker 5: Next up, we're going to be talking about green flags dating.
Speaker 5: When you when you're in those early stages, you go
Speaker 5: to someone's house, what's the green flag?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 6: So often in relationships we talk about red flags that
Speaker 6: the things that you need to look out for, especially
Speaker 6: if you're in the early stages of dating, Like, what
Speaker 6: are those red flags that could indicate that that person
Speaker 6: that you're going on dates with.
Speaker 2: Is actually a bit of an ahole. I bought mission.
Speaker 6: Just get out of there real quick, like another girlfriend
Speaker 6: or yeah back. But it's like, what are the things
Speaker 6: that might indicate that they have another girlfriend, Like maybe
Speaker 6: they're secreted with their phone, or they wedding band yeah,
Speaker 6: or a.
Speaker 3: Date they put their phone face down on the table.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they'd been polite. No, man, that's a red flag.
Speaker 2: Is a big faced out all the time, it's been
Speaker 2: polite with those around you. It also could mean that
Speaker 2: you're texting another.
Speaker 6: Guy rude to wait stuff red red flag. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 6: so this is it. Everyone knows the red flags like
Speaker 6: they are, like there's a lot of them and they
Speaker 6: are very common. But there is an article it's going
Speaker 6: viral and red at a thread at the moment where
Speaker 6: everyone is talking about green flags. Now, I think we
Speaker 6: need to start celebrating or talking more about the things
Speaker 6: that we should be looking out for, especially if you're
Speaker 6: walking into someone's house and you're sussing out where they live.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's a one night stand, maybe you're thinking about
Speaker 6: dating them, and you're like, uh huh, okay, they have
Speaker 6: that thing there that's a green flag.
Speaker 2: That's a man who has his shit together, but he
Speaker 2: knows what to do. What's an exam?
Speaker 6: Okay, So I have an example of one of these
Speaker 6: green flags for me walking into a man's bathroom and
Speaker 6: him having any type of shampoo and conditioner. That is
Speaker 6: not a two in one. That's a green flag. That's
Speaker 6: a man who takes a little bit like he takes
Speaker 6: a bit more sort of you know, responsibility in the
Speaker 6: way he looks, and he he has moved on from
Speaker 6: being a teenager in my eye.
Speaker 5: But what if that is also indicative of friends.
Speaker 3: Conditions here doesn't mean he's got a girl.
Speaker 2: No, But I do agree with you, Britt.
Speaker 6: I think that there is a paper thin fine line
Speaker 6: between something being a green flag and something actually being
Speaker 6: an indicator that maybe they have a female in their life.
Speaker 6: Like ASoP, Yeah, that's a rich green flag. That's not
Speaker 6: a green there's a girl there. Yeah, they're loaded.
Speaker 4: He You know mine is if you're walking, if you've
Speaker 4: got like a date or hookup, you walk into his
Speaker 4: kitchen and there is used cooking stuff, like there's olive
Speaker 4: oil out, or there's pans that he's just recently used.
Speaker 3: That man cooks, he can provide cleanup. He still left
Speaker 3: this stuff out not messy.
Speaker 4: But you know, there's a big difference between a kitchen
Speaker 4: that's not the kitchen that's got stuff active ingredients.
Speaker 5: I like the cooking thing because I can't cook, So
Speaker 5: a man that can cook for me like good.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: If you walk into a house and they have like
Speaker 5: photos of their family are like, they're really wholesome family people,
Speaker 5: like if they've gone to the effort to frame a
Speaker 5: photos the photos of their family, but not of their
Speaker 5: family with their wife in it.
Speaker 2: Also a great indicator.
Speaker 3: Obsessed with this.
Speaker 2: Yes, I am okay. What are your green flags? This one?
Speaker 2: I care about a lot real house plants.
Speaker 6: I think if you can keep a house planet alive,
Speaker 6: that shows that you were responsible.
Speaker 2: At all, you're a man. I will datestal like clean air.
Speaker 3: What's your green flags you look out for?
Speaker 8: My green flag is a plain house and like if
Speaker 8: it doesn't smell life dog, I'm cool.
Speaker 7: La La.
Speaker 5: A clean house could be indicative of psychopathycho path which
Speaker 5: you have Serial killer.
Speaker 2: It's because Laura's house is so messing.
Speaker 6: So picky.
Speaker 4: Of course, you have to do a reality dating show
Speaker 4: to find your husband because you're insane.
Speaker 2: She's insane, that's true. Well, I think it has to
Speaker 2: be a little bit between.
Speaker 6: I think you don't want the house to be so
Speaker 6: clean that that person is going to be like anal
Speaker 6: to be around, that they're going to be like, excuse me,
Speaker 6: where's that bullgo goes back in the You know someone
Speaker 6: who's clean.
Speaker 2: When you're coming up from a date, Laura's like, yes, Laura.
Speaker 4: Hey, this meal you made me in your kitchen. Then
Speaker 4: you got photos of your mom. Do you think you
Speaker 4: are cleaning for me?
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm the red flag you are.
Speaker 3: I think that's where we've leared. Sarah, Hi, what's what's
Speaker 3: your red flat or your green flag?
Speaker 8: Sorry this could be contentious, but someone that asks us
Speaker 8: you leave.
Speaker 9: Your shoes at the door, taking your shoes off?
Speaker 2: No, do you know what? I used to be on
Speaker 2: board with that.
Speaker 5: When I used to go to Peel's house and then
Speaker 5: say to leave your shoes at the door. I used
Speaker 5: to think, Okay, crazy person. But I recently read a
Speaker 5: study about how dirty your shoes are and walking that
Speaker 5: into someone's house.
Speaker 2: I'm all about it now. I think take your shoes off.
Speaker 2: I wish my husband would pay attention.
Speaker 5: To like pooh, when stuff is on your shoes and
Speaker 5: like bugs and gems and viruses.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 6: He always wears his joggers inside the house dories and crazy.
Speaker 3: Listen if you do in the date right, shoes end
Speaker 3: up off anyway.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so's everything else all right?
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was painting a picture just lent.
Speaker 5: In A very deep debate is going on in the
Speaker 5: Hockley slash Hothy household. I say, Hothy, that's my sister
Speaker 5: in law's husband.
Speaker 2: So, my sister.
Speaker 5: Sherry is pregnant about seven months now, I think.
Speaker 2: Don't quote me on that, but she's nearing the end.
Speaker 5: And they've sort of been butting heads since well, even
Speaker 5: before they conceived, Like it's always been that debate about
Speaker 5: when we have a baby, will we find out the sex?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. My brother in law, Jay really really wants
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 5: He wants to be organized, he wants to be able
Speaker 5: to plan, get his head around what it's going to be,
Speaker 5: think of names.
Speaker 2: My sister Sherry never wanted to know.
Speaker 5: Now so far she has gotten away, like they haven't
Speaker 5: found out right, and she's six or seven months, but
Speaker 5: still Jay's saying, can we find out now?
Speaker 2: There's still time, like, there's still eight weeks to go.
Speaker 5: And then I've brought that conversation to my partner Ben,
Speaker 5: because that's what you do, right, Like what would you
Speaker 5: want to do in that situation? Ben really wants to
Speaker 5: find out the sex too. I just think you have
Speaker 5: such little surprises in life as it is, Like how
Speaker 5: if you think as an adult, how often other times
Speaker 5: where you're going to be that blown away on that level?
Speaker 5: And so we're butting heads about what we would do
Speaker 5: now too. What do you guys think? Are you like
Speaker 5: pro finding out the sex?
Speaker 6: I mean, both both my kids were surprises, and we
Speaker 6: spoke about this the other day, and I think it
Speaker 6: comes down to the mum.
Speaker 2: And I say this.
Speaker 6: I know that some people won't agree with this, but
Speaker 6: I really didn't want to know. My husband, Matt, he
Speaker 6: was so desperate to find out the first time, he
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, I know this is important. You've never
Speaker 6: been pregnant before, we can have the surprise. The second
Speaker 6: time I was pregnant, I was like, I want a
Speaker 6: surprise as well, and he felt as though because it
Speaker 6: was the second pregnancy, he should get us say and
Speaker 6: we should find out what we were having But I
Speaker 6: think if you're the one carrying the baby, if you're
Speaker 6: the one doing all the work birth in it, you
Speaker 6: have to push it out of you or pull it
Speaker 6: out of you or however, it's like you're doing everything.
Speaker 6: I think if you want to, if you don't want
Speaker 6: to know, then that's your decision to make. And Matt
Speaker 6: so he was like, well, I'll just find out. I'll
Speaker 6: get the doctor to tell me and then you know,
Speaker 6: I'll be the one that knows and it can be
Speaker 6: a surprise for you. And I was like, no, I
Speaker 6: don't want to be the only one in that room
Speaker 6: that doesn't know what's coming out at me.
Speaker 3: But there's fifty to fifty your baby, his.
Speaker 2: Child, Yes, but he doesn't have to do fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty if the.
Speaker 4: Work you Straight couples are the only couples I'm ever
Speaker 4: gonna have a wife that I'm going to have a
Speaker 4: decision with, Like.
Speaker 5: If I still have this, you could still have this
Speaker 5: conversation about finding out the sex of your baby if
Speaker 5: it's a sorry, no, I know.
Speaker 4: But my baby's no less my baby than surrogates. Just
Speaker 4: because she's having it. She gives it there and goes it's.
Speaker 3: It's in my womb.
Speaker 7: I will not.
Speaker 6: But the surrogate could find out what she's having. She
Speaker 6: she's allowed to. She just you won't find out in
Speaker 6: that instance, I wouldn't want her, okay, But what about
Speaker 6: you and your you and your partner, what like, how
Speaker 6: would you two men who were both having a surrogate
Speaker 6: baby together, because you don't have the you don't have
Speaker 6: the debate of like, well, I'm carrying the baby, so
Speaker 6: I'm going to I don't I'm not going to find out.
Speaker 2: How would you navigate that?
Speaker 3: Well, might be a designer baby. I would have chosen
Speaker 3: the eye color and the hair color.
Speaker 6: And can't you can't choose a gender. Really no, you can't. Really, no,
Speaker 6: they're not. They don't allow that, no kidding. So this
Speaker 6: was like reverse.
Speaker 5: My brother and his wife they had their first child
Speaker 5: together and she really wanted to find out and he didn't.
Speaker 5: He wanted a surprise. So again she's like, my body,
Speaker 5: my choice kind of thing. I'm pushing it out, I'm
Speaker 5: going to find out, and he's he's begging it.
Speaker 2: Please don't tell me.
Speaker 5: She's like, I'll find out. You don't have to when
Speaker 5: the baby's born. That can be your moment, and Mitch
Speaker 5: was like, but that's not gonna work. You're gonna slip
Speaker 5: up in some capacity and you always do. So she
Speaker 5: went and found out and he really didn't want to know.
Speaker 5: Lasted about four weeks and she blurted out, you know,
Speaker 5: I can't wait for him to come ruin the surprise
Speaker 5: to my brother. But this is why it doesn't work.
Speaker 5: This is why I think couples need to commit to
Speaker 5: the to the finding out or not finding out, because
Speaker 5: you can't keep that secret for that long.
Speaker 6: I agree, but there's there's just two types of people.
Speaker 6: There's people who were organized who don't like surprises and
Speaker 6: they want to know, and then there's people who quite
Speaker 6: like the idea. But I agree with what you said
Speaker 6: the bit start, Britt. There are very few things in
Speaker 6: life that are happy surprises. Often when you're an adult,
Speaker 6: the surprises that you have are not really very suit
Speaker 6: job or yeah, they're the're things that you weren't prepared
Speaker 6: for and they're horrible.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 6: I kind of think in this instance, like what's waiting
Speaker 6: another couple of months and there is nothing for me?
Speaker 6: There was nothing more magical than like this baby being
Speaker 6: there and finding out.
Speaker 2: That she was a little girl.
Speaker 4: This shocks me, Laura, like, because you just you're that's
Speaker 4: You're not like you're very controlled with your life, like
Speaker 4: you're across everything, like you you're very like with your
Speaker 4: businesses or very planned.
Speaker 6: I'm very not though, like in terms of I'm really
Speaker 6: I'm a great facade that I've pulled you into thinking
Speaker 6: of myself.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know she was pregnant when I came out.
Speaker 2: I love chaos. I literally thought I had introgests came
Speaker 2: out of baby. It was months dash Strogan, Wow, that's
Speaker 2: a big poop. Crying