Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms. Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms catch up podcast.
Speaker 2: Another podcast, Thank Goodness, let the girl speak at length
Speaker 2: about things they want to speak about. What does a
Speaker 2: girl you have to do to yip yap with her
Speaker 2: friend on the job?
Speaker 1: Be real? This exactly.
Speaker 2: You keep saying, be real, and I keep thinking about
Speaker 2: the app.
Speaker 1: You know, I haven't posted it. Yeah, it's annoying that
Speaker 1: I keep saying that. But here we are.
Speaker 2: And here I was early to my b real slander
Speaker 2: and you guys couldn't hack it, and here we are.
Speaker 2: You've all dropped off naturally because there wasn't any longevity
Speaker 2: in it anyway. And that's not shade. There was an
Speaker 2: observation based on current social media practices. It was asking
Speaker 2: for too much and giving very little in return. Here's
Speaker 2: the partty.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kaita.
Speaker 2: Today's big question is all about what the rules are
Speaker 2: for borrowing your friend's clothes? Sound self explanatory. Apparently not.
Speaker 2: We have a TikTok from using Steph dag check this out.
Speaker 3: There is nothing more frustrating than when you're a friend
Speaker 3: wears your clothes outside of the agreed terms of your contract.
Speaker 3: Like if I let you borrow my dress for a wedding,
Speaker 3: but then I see an instant story of you wearing
Speaker 3: that dress two weeks later out at a bar. Oh,
Speaker 3: we're gonna have a problem.
Speaker 2: I was surprised to jump in the comments and see
Speaker 2: that the response wasn't unanimous. So here a few top comments.
Speaker 2: First person says, no, I'm wearing it as much as
Speaker 2: I can, for I have to give it back long.
Speaker 2: Next person, as long as I get it back in
Speaker 2: the same condition as they got it in, I don't care.
Speaker 2: Third person, isn't that like the point of sharing with friends?
Speaker 3: Four?
Speaker 2: Fourth porson and in front of mutual friends. I'm never
Speaker 2: letting them borrow anything ever.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: Last person says, these comments are lying. You can't possibly
Speaker 2: enjoy watching someone use your clothes that much? Are you
Speaker 2: a bad friend if you don't want to share your
Speaker 2: clothes with your friends? What do you reckon?
Speaker 1: So first and foremost, my friend let me borrow a
Speaker 1: top the other day, and I wore it on the
Speaker 1: said occasion. I then end up wearing it four more
Speaker 1: times and I and you got I uploaded a picture
Speaker 1: I've uploaded this last week. Yeah, okay, putting it on
Speaker 1: the grid.
Speaker 2: Like when you borrow at the top. Did you set
Speaker 2: terms and conditions and say, hey, I need this.
Speaker 1: I was at her house for drinks before going out. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you cornered her no because pession I did. I said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to wear the top of the rings
Speaker 1: too titty. So she gave me that one. So I
Speaker 1: need that one specifically. But I will say, I have
Speaker 1: a list of items that I refuse to share with people.
Speaker 1: Would you like me to read them? Mountain? Yeah, number one.
Speaker 1: This is something that people always want to borrow, and
Speaker 1: I have let them borrow it before, but it's giving
Speaker 1: massive scared vibes when they take it. It is my
Speaker 1: Avarex jacket, my bomber jacket.
Speaker 2: You wear that too often enough that if that can't
Speaker 2: be loan, that's your every day Jack's my every day
Speaker 2: jacket cold you're wearing it.
Speaker 1: I bought it from gray Old. They retail for about
Speaker 1: five hundred dollars. I bought it for about two hundred,
Speaker 1: and that's vintage, exactly my mcdonald'st.
Speaker 2: I can imagine it's my Rubbie Mitts all over that one.
Speaker 1: People have also borrowed that however, that can be washed,
Speaker 1: So that's okay, my chanelle.
Speaker 2: Who's asking to borrow Chanell notacorum.
Speaker 1: My Chanell Long nineteen ninetyes vintage coat inappropriate, my chilic condition,
Speaker 1: and perhaps most alarmingly, my memu, Oh, my memeu heels
Speaker 1: bush pigs for friends. Mymea heels, tiny snappable heel with
Speaker 1: beautiful flowers that almost have like a daisy by March.
Speaker 1: Jenial's lab bought them. Vindig, You're okay, that's actually that's
Speaker 1: going to stay in the fam, which means me.
Speaker 2: I like to think that with most things, there is
Speaker 2: a delicate social contract in which we kind of understand
Speaker 2: the rules, and if we don't, we are on the
Speaker 2: side of caution. I feel like people with sisters, and
Speaker 2: I'm talking generally women friendships, I recognize people with sisters
Speaker 2: may not understand what that contract is because that relationship
Speaker 2: is about not respecting boundaries. Yeah, I understand if it
Speaker 2: like filters over into other dynamics, so you need to
Speaker 2: assess that. But generally speaking, unless you went raised by
Speaker 2: a parent who instilled a healthy amount of fear, guilt
Speaker 2: and shame and too, you you acknowledge it. Like I'm
Speaker 2: given this opportunity, for this opportunity and not for anything else.
Speaker 2: I don't think people as a standard push the boundaries.
Speaker 2: Letting people borrow clothes kind of reminds me of the
Speaker 2: backwash phenomena. You know, you're sharing a drink with someone
Speaker 2: and you have a slight inkling that they could be backwashing,
Speaker 2: so you just rescind it to them. It's like it's
Speaker 2: yours now.
Speaker 1: I don't share.
Speaker 2: That's how I feel like clothes sometimes, like in some instances,
Speaker 2: you have it because I just know it's not coming
Speaker 2: back in the way that it needs to come back,
Speaker 2: and I know that rather than me carry any animosity
Speaker 2: in my heart, I would feel better if it felt
Speaker 2: like I gifted it to you. So I didn't you
Speaker 2: think about it?
Speaker 1: But should I not upload this? She's a good friend
Speaker 1: of mine?
Speaker 2: I mean, have you given the top back?
Speaker 1: No, I've been meaning to. She's away. We don't believe you.
Speaker 1: I think that's why. No, I'm being serious. I'm being serious.
Speaker 2: I think that you should you not upload that. I
Speaker 2: think you should give upload it. No, I think you
Speaker 2: should give the top back first, then upload it.
Speaker 1: No, because she's a way right now, so I can't
Speaker 1: give it to her. Is it urgent me posting this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is why I'm posting a newsletter. Is it bad?
Speaker 1: I don't think it's bad. But it's also our mutual
Speaker 1: friend's friends. Mikayla, do you think it's bad at all?
Speaker 4: I have a friend who posts photos in.
Speaker 1: My clothes, and how do you feel about it?
Speaker 4: I just say that's my shat every time she posts it,
Speaker 4: and I don't care.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're bold.
Speaker 4: I don't care about it. I don't want that shirt
Speaker 4: Anywayswash she's done. Yeah, she's had it for like a
Speaker 4: good four months longer.
Speaker 2: She's lived in it.
Speaker 4: She's lived in it. I don't want to anay Moore
Speaker 4: far out.
Speaker 1: Mikayla, as they do everything with caution. Be well. We
Speaker 1: have a listener who's told us that there's been a
Speaker 1: situation with him and his girlfriend. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: play the text. Am I am I the asshole. I've
Speaker 1: been dating Ella for two months now. When you're calling
Speaker 1: it about them, I the ass one. This in two
Speaker 1: months two months each other kill her. My family is
Speaker 1: from an Asian background, so a majority of the food
Speaker 1: I cook just for myself includes peanuts and other nuts
Speaker 1: because It's an important ingredient in my cultural dishes, say
Speaker 1: with the whole chest.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I live alone, so I just make my own food
Speaker 1: for myself. But because of Ella's allergy, I don't make
Speaker 1: foods with peanuts in them because I know I'm also
Speaker 1: cooking for her. Her allergy is only reactive if she
Speaker 1: ingests a good amount of the actual nut. Are you
Speaker 1: a doctor, Okay? Anaphylaxic surgeon, and he's unaffected by smell,
Speaker 1: airborne and small traces of cross contamination. Recently, I made
Speaker 1: a dish which contains a heavy usage of nuts blended
Speaker 1: into the curry so you can't see that they're there,
Speaker 1: and I left the left dos in my fridge. Ella
Speaker 1: came around while I was in the shower, and during
Speaker 1: that time she apparently went into my fridge and helped
Speaker 1: herself to a big portion of the curry and immediately
Speaker 1: started having an allergic reaction. Luckily, she hadow EpiPen and
Speaker 1: was okay after a few minutes, but she went absolutely
Speaker 1: off and me, accusing me of causing her arm. I
Speaker 1: felt extremely guilty that she had a bad allergic reaction
Speaker 1: into my food, and I apologized profusely and off to
Speaker 1: take her to the hospital, but she was just screaming
Speaker 1: at me the whole time. She said that if I
Speaker 1: really cared about her, I should have labeled all my
Speaker 1: food for her and let her know. Oh am I
Speaker 1: the assle?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 2: Do you know what this reminds me of?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 2: There's one stating a guy who bought me a microwave
Speaker 2: for a gift, thinking about it was like a microwave
Speaker 2: and something for a birthday, and I was so pissed.
Speaker 2: I had the worst week. I'm what is this? I
Speaker 2: don't eat left because I don't want to. And then,
Speaker 2: in a fit of rage, I was getting some cordial
Speaker 2: out of my fridge, you know, the glass bottle of schwepes,
Speaker 2: and I dropped it and it smashed everywhere. As he
Speaker 2: was helping me clean it up, I'd convince myself that
Speaker 2: he dropped it.
Speaker 3: I was like, why do you do this?
Speaker 1: He's like what And I was like, see, see, I'm
Speaker 1: a sicko. But this is the exact same situation. Cold ye. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say she stepped into that, and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but if you're allergic to nuts, you gotta be hyperfielchill babes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have your EpiPen on your on purpose and you
Speaker 1: know it's because you're a liability.
Speaker 2: But also we're getting really comfortable to two months in.
Speaker 2: We're walking into the house, we're opening the fridge, we're
Speaker 2: picking through leftovers.
Speaker 1: Hands off, How did.
Speaker 2: She asked him? Oh? My goodness, I can have a
Speaker 2: little snacky snack. You know some of my best friends
Speaker 2: I've known my whole life. I sort of the cordial
Speaker 2: Oh can I borrow? Even though I don't need to ask?
Speaker 2: Because just in case I can't, now I know you've
Speaker 2: got and poisoned yourself and flip the switch.
Speaker 1: Oh one of us, one of us pop culture you
Speaker 1: missed with Flex and Frooms on kit.
Speaker 2: Question for you, should people get paid to have children?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 1: Or no?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Babe? What I'm pushing a couple out for free? What
Speaker 1: grimes shout out?
Speaker 2: Elon Musk's Baby Mama was on the lex Friedmom podcast
Speaker 2: talking about motherhood and how she feels it under a
Speaker 2: capitalist system, it should be rewarded and then should be
Speaker 2: a monetary value add to it.
Speaker 1: Listen to this.
Speaker 6: I feel like producing great humans should be seen as
Speaker 6: a great as profit under capitalism, Like that should be
Speaker 6: That's like a huge social good, like every awesome human
Speaker 6: that gets made as so much to the world.
Speaker 2: I don't think the world is ready for this, but
Speaker 2: points are being made so much so that I wrote
Speaker 2: some notes what I'd like to read off as Grime says,
Speaker 2: if it was compensated, we've be incentivized to produce great humans.
Speaker 2: It could be then a community of vocation, not like
Speaker 2: a self interested individualistic act. So you start to think
Speaker 2: I'm being compensated to do this bit in a way,
Speaker 2: they don't need to think about whether I enjoy it
Speaker 2: or I don't enjoy it. Similarly to the way that
Speaker 2: we approach traditional work, right, I don't think a lot
Speaker 2: of us live and breathe this idea of going to
Speaker 2: a nine to five and spending forty hours there. But
Speaker 2: it's a means to an end because it provides us
Speaker 2: the money that provides us the life that we want. Alternatively,
Speaker 2: when you kind of like take the empathy and the
Speaker 2: readiness out of child bearing and parenting, suddenly you get
Speaker 2: to make an informed choice based on your lifestyle and
Speaker 2: your income. Do you know what I mean? I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't actually think about if they're
Speaker 2: ready to rear a child. They think about if they're
Speaker 2: ready to be perceived as a parent. Oh two different things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh you know, like, well I still have my friends,
Speaker 2: Like will I be able to go on holiday babes?
Speaker 2: You about to raise a person who's going to interact
Speaker 2: with other people?
Speaker 1: Why do we have to make it that it's It
Speaker 1: feels very much like I think parents already feel a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. This is putting the pressure on too much.
Speaker 1: We all feel pressure. No pressure, I think.
Speaker 2: I just also think like when people talk about the
Speaker 2: realities of parenting, they talk a lot about their investment,
Speaker 2: the time, the energy, the money. Had the average person
Speaker 2: been said or been given a warning and said, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, we've decided that we need people to have
Speaker 2: kids the going raise five hundred KA a year. We
Speaker 2: need you to ensure this kid is nurtured. We're gonna
Speaker 2: do aptitude tests, strength tests, endurance tests.
Speaker 1: You're not no way as someone who nearly foiled the
Speaker 1: nap Land. You're seven year nine before I nearly failed
Speaker 1: at and yet and yeah, I mean here we are here.
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Speaker 1: We've got some video content on there. Somebody sent us
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Speaker 5: I dreamed of Flex and Frooms last night. All I
Speaker 5: remember is I walked up to flex and froome in
Speaker 5: a festival like scenario. Through me had a lanner lips
Speaker 5: lip barm and in the top of it was a
Speaker 5: hollow needle like the people that take your blood use,
Speaker 5: and she was tangular about to put it in Flexi's arm,
Speaker 5: draw blood into the lanner lips lip arm container. Do
Speaker 5: I know why? I have no idea, but I woke
Speaker 5: up and I smiled because I realized that somehow in
Speaker 5: there we got some like Twilight content and a PostScript.
Speaker 5: It wasn't It wasn't freaking nightmarish at all. Everyone was joyous.
Speaker 5: It was a great time.
Speaker 2: The cult of Babies. I want to hear what those
Speaker 2: babies the babble They know something we don't know. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I love that we're blending the absurd. That's not too
Speaker 2: far off from what for mean I would get.
Speaker 1: Into definitely not No.
Speaker 2: I think like it's we're one or two giggles away
Speaker 2: from I just put it in, put the.
Speaker 1: I love that it's adorable.
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