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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's.

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Speaker 2: After a horrendously hard year. It's no surprise there's a

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Speaker 2: big conversation around mental health, particularly the mental health of men.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Our mate Gus Warland is on a mission to encourage

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Speaker 2: men to reach out to a mate and build mental

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Speaker 2: fitness across Australia with his foundation Got You for Life.

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Speaker 2: He's with us now, Hi Gas.

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Speaker 1: Good day, Amanda gay Jonsey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Well, thank you for my broque. I got it last

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Speaker 3: week and I've got it in the window of our

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Speaker 3: office there.

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Speaker 2: So tell me about the broquet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm trying to make it as simple as possible.

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Speaker 1: Dry flowers from Australia, which obviously do you that lovely chance,

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Speaker 1: but you don't actually have to do anything about.

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Speaker 4: It that comes in the bars like you've done, Jones,

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Speaker 4: and you've pumped it out on the side of your

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Speaker 4: desk there and gone back in and done and dusted,

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Speaker 4: and the broquet, really, Amanda, is about a bloke sending

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Speaker 4: a slightly awkward present to another blow Because if you

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Speaker 4: think about sending a.

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Speaker 1: Presy to a guy, it would normally be a case

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Speaker 1: of beer or bottle of wine, or you've taken that

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Speaker 1: for a meal the brute. When you lot at Jonesy,

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Speaker 1: did you sort of go this is just a bit strange.

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Speaker 1: This is just a bit awkward. And if it was

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Speaker 1: someone that you didn't know particularly well, you bring them

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Speaker 1: up and say why do you send me flowers? For

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Speaker 1: That's what I want people to do. I want them

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Speaker 1: to have an awkward conversation off the back of a

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Speaker 1: slightly awkward pressy. And we don't have those awkward conversations

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Speaker 1: enough us blokes. We live in bantaland we live where

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Speaker 1: we're comfortable, and I think that's a huge reason why

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Speaker 1: so many blokes worry alone. But if we don't worry,

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Speaker 1: if we worry alone, then we tend to make some

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Speaker 1: really seriously bad decisions. And that's why the numbers round

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Speaker 1: suicide and people attempting suicide, especially with manner, absolutely horrific.

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Speaker 2: You talk about building mental fitness, How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: How do we make people more resilient?

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Speaker 5: What's the key?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think people or which you hear mental health

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Speaker 1: with it for so long now it takes a check

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Speaker 1: straight to the bottom of the barrel. It makes you

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Speaker 1: sort of think, oh, mental mental, it's not me and

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Speaker 1: I've just got a few things going on, but that's

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Speaker 1: not me. But if you talk about mental fitness just

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Speaker 1: like your physical fitness, you can give yourself a mark

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Speaker 1: out of ten and you can actually grade yourself again

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Speaker 1: or what. It's all right to be a six every

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Speaker 1: now and again, it's okay to be a two out

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Speaker 1: of ten every now and again. But if you start

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Speaker 1: going down that two out of ten, that three out

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Speaker 1: of ten all the time with your physical fitness, you'll

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Speaker 1: probably get off your bum go to a gym, start

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Speaker 1: eating a bit better, stop smoking less drinking. There's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of exercises and things in place to a

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Speaker 1: physical fitness. I want the same type of conversation, daily

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Speaker 1: conversation around your mental fitness, and that way, hopefully we

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Speaker 1: don't worry alone as much as we can. And the

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Speaker 1: best way, Amanda, to exercise is to have that awkward,

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Speaker 1: honest conversation with at least one person in your life.

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Speaker 1: Stop thinking that everyone is perfect. Stop thinking that this

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Speaker 1: social media world that we live in is telling us

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Speaker 1: that everything's hanky dory all the time. It's not. We're

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Speaker 1: part of one big dysfunctional setup. And it's cool if

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Speaker 1: you've got someone that you can actually take the mask off.

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Speaker 3: With and be honest with, because Instagram can really tag

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Speaker 3: up a lot of time.

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Speaker 5: And I stopped at it. What during my holidays? I

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Speaker 5: just sort of thought because it was it all stemmed.

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Speaker 3: And someone said to me, I used to get like

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Speaker 3: that verification, that blue tick thing, and I didn't really

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Speaker 3: think much of it. And it was Trevor Long at

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Speaker 3: the Channel nine. He said, yeah, you just do it.

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Speaker 3: You send your details in and then they verify it.

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Speaker 3: And I went, oh, and then I don't ever send

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Speaker 3: in details like my passport or driver's license over the

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Speaker 3: internet because to me, that's just asking to be scammed first.

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Speaker 5: For some reason, I did it anyway, nothing happened.

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Speaker 3: Then they said, oh, you're not you you don't meet

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Speaker 3: Instagram's criteria. And then I went, hang on, why am

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Speaker 3: I putting all my time and effort into this.

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Speaker 5: I know who I am. I've been doing this job

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Speaker 5: for thirty odd years. I've made a living out of it.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Instagram, you don't pass my criteria, so

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Speaker 3: you can blow it out your ass, So I don't

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Speaker 3: use it.

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Speaker 1: Well, your social media certainly has a lot to answer for.

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Speaker 1: There's mood about it. When people get so much from

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Speaker 1: it that that tick or amount of likes, or specially

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Speaker 1: kids thinking the popularity will come from a tick or

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Speaker 1: a follow or something, then it's complete bs. And we've

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Speaker 1: built this up over the years. So we need to

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Speaker 1: put a line in the sand right now. You don't

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Speaker 1: want it. The number one way that we can look

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Speaker 1: after ourselves is to actually look at your angulate, to

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Speaker 1: your own little community, your own family, and make sure

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Speaker 1: that you've got a proper relationship with them that you

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Speaker 1: can talk to them about anything, Watson or without any judgment.

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Speaker 1: Because there's way too many people at the moment worrying

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Speaker 1: the land. And I believe that suicide is a death

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Speaker 1: of a loneliness. And you get to a stage where

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Speaker 1: the number one way to die now, guys is as

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Speaker 1: an Australian mail is suicide. Wow, that that is a disgrace.

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Speaker 1: So people like you and people like me, we've got

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Speaker 1: a bit of profile. You guys are the number one

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Speaker 1: radio station. You speak to so many people every single day.

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Speaker 1: It's time for us to go, you know what. We're

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Speaker 1: going to take this seriously because it's these numbers were

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Speaker 1: car accidents. When we've been to us.

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Speaker 3: It's great what you're doing. If you or someone you

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Speaker 3: care about need to urge and support, Lifeline is always there.

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Speaker 5: Thirteen eleven fourteen, thank you for my bro qu gus.

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Speaker 3: If you wanted to put like some restless listener's in there,

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Speaker 3: that would be that would be good as well.

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Speaker 1: I gave a few away to the permanent people, prominent

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Speaker 1: men in Australia and most people just went, what is

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Speaker 1: this all about? But they thought if I'd give him

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Speaker 1: a bottle of wine or beer that would have been

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Speaker 1: due to But that's the whole point, you know, Let's

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Speaker 1: have a conversation slightly awkward round a awkward present.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of those around.

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Speaker 2: Thank you all right, Thank you guys, so nice to

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Speaker 2: talk to you.

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Speaker 1: As always, it's an absolute pleasure a man. Thanks Jonesy,

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Speaker 1: all the best guys. Jonesy and Amanda's generation