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Speaker 1: of the shining stars of lux Listing Sydney. This guest
Speaker 1: has been a fantastic cast, joining the series in series two. Yes,
Speaker 1: we are talking about Monica two. The first series on
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime really broke round in a space that proved
Speaker 1: everyone has their guilty pleasure when it comes to reality TV.
Speaker 1: This isn't drama for drama's sake. It's a beautifully shot
Speaker 1: series about real estate with houses in Sydney that could
Speaker 1: rival anywhere else in the world. Monica two is a
Speaker 1: Chinese Australian woman with a lot to say. But today
Speaker 1: you will get an upfront down to worth chat that
Speaker 1: will show you why she's a success in front of
Speaker 1: the camera and why she's a success in the real
Speaker 1: estate market. Like's listing. Sydney has debuted their third season
Speaker 1: already on Amazon Prime, and you simply must watch to
Speaker 1: see how Monica commands her audience. I will ask what
Speaker 1: made her say yes to the show, what it's like
Speaker 1: being a Chinese Australian woman on TV, if she would
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable using her first language, and we also
Speaker 1: discuss why Monica is a smash within the LGBTI community. However,
Speaker 1: let's get started with today's guest. I'd like to welcome
Speaker 1: Monica two to TV Reyload.
Speaker 2: It's good for the audience, it's good for me.
Speaker 1: Monica is known for her lean and her international clientele, but.
Speaker 2: I'm not really a best friend of all of them.
Speaker 2: I'm not a best friend of the business.
Speaker 1: What happen this is real estate.
Speaker 2: This is what happened to a woman without English, without
Speaker 2: nothing to who I am today. That's that's a journey.
Speaker 2: You know what, Monica, You're evil. We have a culture.
Speaker 2: We're very conservative, right, so we never want to show
Speaker 2: what we really have.
Speaker 1: The real estate market in Sydney is crazy.
Speaker 2: I was asking that, Kyle saidler I said, should I
Speaker 2: be a comedian?
Speaker 1: I'm Monica. Welcome to the podcast and congratulations on another
Speaker 1: series of lux Listening, Sydney.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: You know, this show looks like a lot of fun
Speaker 1: to make. Have you been having a blast making this series?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think it's probably more fun for me, So
Speaker 2: I never thought that would be on the show. And
Speaker 2: the show yeah kind of like make me like a
Speaker 2: really like a superstar in my community.
Speaker 1: I feel like the essence behind this show is to
Speaker 1: be at the top of your game and to be
Speaker 1: the best version of yourself. Just watching you and the
Speaker 1: other guys is just it's just really inspiring to watch.
Speaker 2: So I absolutely think so. You know, first of all,
Speaker 2: we have an opportunity to work with the other agents,
Speaker 2: so we're all very busy. I'm sure you know in
Speaker 2: every industry, probably real estate is the business person will
Speaker 2: work seven days a week, and so we literally don't
Speaker 2: have time to make friends. And you know, while we're
Speaker 2: filming a show, and it would come you know, like
Speaker 2: to get to know each other a bit better. And
Speaker 2: that's really important for me because I compared to you know,
Speaker 2: three of them I'm probably the new kids on the book, right,
Speaker 2: I've been a real estate only about probably thirteen years,
Speaker 2: and they've been the game for like so long. It's
Speaker 2: just so much to learn from them, you know, really
Speaker 2: enjoy my time with them. And yeah, I think there's
Speaker 2: a blast for me.
Speaker 1: What does it mean to be a Chinese Australian woman
Speaker 1: killing it in the business world on television?
Speaker 2: God, you know, unbelievaoble thought, you know, I never thought
Speaker 2: I would do that, But when I took the challenge,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, you know, what is going
Speaker 2: to happen. So now I got, oh my god, the selfies,
Speaker 2: you know, signatures and you know hashtag and so I've
Speaker 2: just realized I've become the number one influencer for the
Speaker 2: Chinese uh you know, you know properties and luxury community.
Speaker 2: I got, you know, the followers from like literally like
Speaker 2: a sixty seventy years old because you know, you know,
Speaker 2: you can tell, right I'm not young, and from the
Speaker 2: middle age, and the young young kids. I've got so
Speaker 2: many young kids like following me around. I think then
Speaker 2: become from a real estate agent, become like a person
Speaker 2: with a responsibility. So once you're out there you really
Speaker 2: have to give the right message and become an inspiration
Speaker 2: for that generation. So yeah, I really are enjoying the
Speaker 2: process and then join the experience, of course enjoying a
Speaker 2: bit of like a fame, but just saying that, you know,
Speaker 2: you know how that feels.
Speaker 1: I love that you're owning that. I love that you
Speaker 1: own that because so many people are like, you know,
Speaker 1: they brushed aside. They don't even say that that's something
Speaker 1: that they enjoy, but really it is. I mean, for
Speaker 1: you, you're killing it at what you do best, You're doing
Speaker 1: it on television and people love you for it, so
Speaker 1: you know, why not celebrate that exactly?
Speaker 2: You know what one of the challenges we're facing now
Speaker 2: is so when you become really famous on top of
Speaker 2: your game, and how you manage that, you know, how
Speaker 2: you manage like prolamentally and also you know the time
Speaker 2: and the most important how do you keep you know,
Speaker 2: your your grunt, you know, always keep your feet on
Speaker 2: the ground. I think that's the challenge you we're facing
Speaker 2: at the moment, and that hope I will continue be genuine,
Speaker 2: authentic and it's still how working you have to know
Speaker 2: where you know, what is your main focus? Right, So
Speaker 2: my focus is always the property. I deliver the service
Speaker 2: and you know, look after my team and that's it,
Speaker 2: you know, like of maintainer integrity, that's really important as well.
Speaker 2: I'd rather than justin going out and enjoy the fame
Speaker 2: and forgot who we are, you know ourselves. You know,
Speaker 2: this is my biggest challenge at the moment, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure I will manage that so I wouldn't have a problem.
Speaker 1: The show works though, because you are also genuine I
Speaker 1: mean Delane and Gavin Simon and yourself. I mean you're
Speaker 1: all just being true to yourselves on television and I
Speaker 1: think that's that's why we love it so much. I
Speaker 1: think if you pretended to be someone else, we'd switch off.
Speaker 2: Think that literally, that's what you're saying. So what you
Speaker 2: get and the great you know, greatness about the show is,
Speaker 2: of course the superstars are the properties, right, So we
Speaker 2: shocused the world, not just Australia, and I will show
Speaker 2: us two hundred and forty different countries and regions. So
Speaker 2: what Australia has got to offer, our senior has got
Speaker 2: to offer. So that's the number one thing, and that
Speaker 2: we've got incredible properties and people calling it from Denmark,
Speaker 2: you know they're from today because somebody from Brazil or
Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, you know, you guys have
Speaker 2: got so much. Would you like to sell your brocess?
Speaker 2: I thank you very much. Not but anyway, but it's
Speaker 2: just beautiful things people have never seen. They always think
Speaker 2: we'll have one in Kangaroo's, you know, the best thing
Speaker 2: toward the opera house. Yes we do, but in terms
Speaker 2: of property is it's definitely the world class. And second
Speaker 2: is about people, and yeah, we're so different. You know,
Speaker 2: we're totally different. Oh my god. You know, like they
Speaker 2: really show their personalities in the show and the good
Speaker 2: and bad side. I mean, right, so we're changing people.
Speaker 2: And one thing is like, you know, I've got a
Speaker 2: lot of friends that in the in the in the industry,
Speaker 2: in a television industry. So everybody's telling me, you know,
Speaker 2: the realcity shows is a very different. You know, you're
Speaker 2: being in a band, you know, but this show, the producers,
Speaker 2: you know, the productions really empower us to be who
Speaker 2: we are. So yeah, that's pretty good. You know, make
Speaker 2: our lives really easy. And so if there's a lot opportunity,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just gonna truck just.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I wanted to ask you. You know,
Speaker 1: you've been so embraced and people are loving you on TV,
Speaker 1: but do you think we need more Chinese Australian women
Speaker 1: on television here in Australia or.
Speaker 2: One you know, Chinese Australians. You know, we have a culture.
Speaker 2: We're very conservative, right, so we never want to show
Speaker 2: what we really have because we don't want to defend anybody.
Speaker 2: You know, this is a Chinese culture. But to for
Speaker 2: me having me on the show, is that really we
Speaker 2: really have to get out there. You know, we should
Speaker 2: encourage the younger generation just show who you are. Just
Speaker 2: just stand up, you know, rather than stick out and
Speaker 2: be undergo oh no, you know what about you know,
Speaker 2: if I'm not good enough and everybody is good enough
Speaker 2: and we've just been so fortunate in this country, or
Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you are, you know, listen to your program.
Speaker 2: So you could be in China, could be in Thailand,
Speaker 2: could be you're you know what, we're just representing ourselves.
Speaker 2: We have a beautiful heritage of Asian culture, but we
Speaker 2: imbraced the Western culture. So yeah, we definitely should stand out.
Speaker 2: So I did an interview with somebody else yesterday. The
Speaker 2: problem is a reading power women, not just Chinese, any
Speaker 2: migrants to come out, just stand up, you know, just
Speaker 2: showcase your heritage. I embrace this beautiful Western culture.
Speaker 1: Because people embrace you, Monica, they embrace We've been embracing you.
Speaker 1: You know, you are a bit of a new personality,
Speaker 1: someone we haven't seen on television here in Australia. But
Speaker 1: to see you just being yourself reminds us that there's
Speaker 1: just so many other stories in this country to tell,
Speaker 1: and so many beautiful people to investigate and to laugh
Speaker 1: along with them, to learn from.
Speaker 2: That's right, you know, it's very interesting. So I'm over observed.
Speaker 2: So what's the show we'd come back bring us not
Speaker 2: just the business, but the feedback, you know. I you know,
Speaker 2: I heard from you know a lot of people's money.
Speaker 2: You know, you're you're our inspiration in the Asian community,
Speaker 2: and I heard a lot like a gay community become
Speaker 2: I could get some Oh that's interesting, that's let's really
Speaker 2: I want to found out more. Why is that right?
Speaker 2: And maybe they're looking for that authentity, you know, like different,
Speaker 2: you know, improfessional. We're not perfect, right, so you know
Speaker 2: my brand is that even though we work so hard.
Speaker 2: I'm just squear him. There's so much like things relate
Speaker 2: to themselves, you know, to the migrants, and I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, I just want to find out. Okay, why
Speaker 2: is that?
Speaker 1: I can tell you Monica what it is. It's you know,
Speaker 1: the LGBTI community have felt like a minority, and you
Speaker 1: yourself must have in this country felt like a minority
Speaker 1: at this time, and most people who felt like a
Speaker 1: minority feel squashed down by it. But then to see
Speaker 1: you be so loud and so fun and so confident,
Speaker 1: it reminds people of a minority that they too can
Speaker 1: be just like you.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Ben, you know you're the first person.
Speaker 2: You know, you alos listen to me. I want to
Speaker 2: listen to you, right, So this is like one piece
Speaker 2: of you know I never heard of because I got
Speaker 2: so much attention everyone. God, you know people, I feel
Speaker 2: like that last. But sometimes I'm you know, I'm still
Speaker 2: Asian and Chinese. I'll still be conservative to ask because
Speaker 2: I don't want to offend anybody because I never have
Speaker 2: so many engaferends, but I never really asked them in
Speaker 2: depth of it, do you know what I mean? So
Speaker 2: I'm still Asian. So I'm not a brave to ask.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't offend anybody, but this is like, yes,
Speaker 2: it's a majority minority, you know, a group of people
Speaker 2: and oh wow, okay, I'm loud. I'm not shy of
Speaker 2: my success. Why should I, right, I work so hard
Speaker 2: for our at own right. I do love blind billings
Speaker 2: and our low BlimE is humble today, but so all
Speaker 2: bling billions and I love to enjoy life and we're
Speaker 2: not you know, we deserve it. But at the same
Speaker 2: time that we live with a purpose, we live with
Speaker 2: something we want to achieve. So thank you, thank you
Speaker 2: for that having I think that that's really really grateful
Speaker 2: to hear.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad that. I mean, it's a good conversation
Speaker 1: to have, and I mean sometimes we don't see that.
Speaker 1: But also sometimes we're afraid to ask these questions. But
Speaker 1: they're the best questions to ask when it is a
Speaker 1: little bit uncomfortable at times. Normally there's a good reward
Speaker 1: behind it. But when I was thinking of chatting with
Speaker 1: you today, I wanted to say to you, can you
Speaker 1: remember when you came to Australia, which I think was
Speaker 1: in the eighties, what kind of space was there at
Speaker 1: that time for women like yourself to be taken. Seriously,
Speaker 1: how far do you think we've come since when you
Speaker 1: first came to Australia.
Speaker 2: I think I came to Australia in ninety eighty eight,
Speaker 2: So that was literally in those space no space for
Speaker 2: students because I was a foreign students and the perceptions
Speaker 2: that for instant you had just had to work in
Speaker 2: their restaurants, right, So washing the dishes and that's what
Speaker 2: you know, which is okay, that's how that's how we started, right,
Speaker 2: And there's no space for women, you know. That. One
Speaker 2: thing is I don't I don't really think Australia is
Speaker 2: a country has a lot of racism or all this.
Speaker 2: I don't really believe there, right, because you know, when
Speaker 2: we're coming here, we have to know who we are.
Speaker 2: Because I couldn't even bloody speak English. How are you?
Speaker 2: How are you asked for plays in a society? Right?
Speaker 2: You can't because you couldn't even communicate. So number one
Speaker 2: thing is like we have to forgot forget see imperfection,
Speaker 2: You have to forget who you are in the past.
Speaker 2: I was like literally like a superstar in China at
Speaker 2: the time on a camere. I was nobody. But instead
Speaker 2: of a blame the society, blame the community, I just
Speaker 2: have to empower myself. You know, I have to know
Speaker 2: what I don't know. I have to learn language. I
Speaker 2: have to start washing the dishes and start working. That
Speaker 2: was a joke, right, looking after other peop's baby. I
Speaker 2: was twenty six. I didn't even know how to look
Speaker 2: at myself. Right, but does sex you just just you?
Speaker 2: And I start from working in the market, you know, baby,
Speaker 2: if you look at my photos, you I have you
Speaker 2: know all the posts, I have a Burrican allies and Amassiel. Right,
Speaker 2: I was having a bum bag, So you know when
Speaker 2: the sting is just selling a country in a dirty
Speaker 2: cash and working in the market just techologically, you know
Speaker 2: how strong I have to be. Okay, So we never
Speaker 2: showed blame was out there in fact where you have
Speaker 2: to make the most what's available of us, and the
Speaker 2: psychology will have to be so strong and the resilience.
Speaker 2: I just ignore whatever happens outside. Just empower yourself. So
Speaker 2: from that moment, a woman without English, without nothing to
Speaker 2: who I am today, That's that's a journey, right, that
Speaker 2: journey is just so incredible everything I did in the past,
Speaker 2: Washington dishes, cover the place, split the beer on people's
Speaker 2: you know, you know, c to be now being everywhere,
Speaker 2: been seeing, you know, being like you know, hosting private functions,
Speaker 2: fly private jets, all these things. It's an incredible journey.
Speaker 2: So that journey. Come to my book. Okay, my I
Speaker 2: do the book with the Amazon released very soon. It's
Speaker 2: called hashtag never too much. Okay, too much is to
Speaker 2: you my surname, so you know, it's never too much
Speaker 2: of like hardship, challenges and victories and celebrations everything. So
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be shye. So we are the master of ourselves.
Speaker 2: We should manage ourselves from you know, physical, mental, everything
Speaker 2: whatever comes. You know, you know why you cannot manage it, right,
Speaker 2: just living in Gods hand, you cannot manage it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happens tomorrow. So I'm having something
Speaker 2: at Lutle Market today. It's a meeting of fairs. I
Speaker 2: don't know what's the results, but I just hope. I
Speaker 2: don't really mind. It's no people comes running today, that's okay,
Speaker 2: you know, but I get prepared, you know, get my head, huh,
Speaker 2: you know, cut my make up, just go enjoy myself.
Speaker 2: So I hope that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense, That makes perfect sense. And you know it's is
Speaker 1: it too early to be this inspirational want to come?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love chatting to you. I feel
Speaker 1: like I need to chat to you every morning just
Speaker 1: to give myself the to psych me up into the day.
Speaker 1: Like I think it makes you want to go out
Speaker 1: there and achieve. I think we so often get bogged
Speaker 1: down in our circumstance and we sort of forget that
Speaker 1: we should just clear all of that and be who
Speaker 1: we are and start again, you know. And I think
Speaker 1: that there's something something quite beautiful in that. You know, Monica,
Speaker 1: when I asked you to do this show, what was
Speaker 1: what was your initial thoughts?
Speaker 2: Oh? Initial thoughts. It's like, you know, I'm still privileged.
Speaker 2: So like if there's opportunity there to share my story
Speaker 2: with anybody, and I look at some of the questions,
Speaker 2: I say, you know, I'm not and if I can
Speaker 2: fit in the time I always do you know anything
Speaker 2: I can? You know my husband he do too much?
Speaker 2: I said, you know, I never never too much. If
Speaker 2: I can fit in, I will always want to be
Speaker 2: there to sharing and just hopefully inspiring and you know,
Speaker 2: just if I can have anybody help, you know, anybody
Speaker 2: listen to a podcast, that it's become a responsibility.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But of course you're very good looking at you and
Speaker 2: you know it's good to talk. If I'm talking to you,
Speaker 2: I'm I looking at you as well. Right for people
Speaker 2: by talking to you, I learned from you today. I
Speaker 2: learned a couple of things I never know. And I
Speaker 2: also keep myself excited as well for the day. Right.
Speaker 2: So now it's like you said, you're inspired, I'm inspired too.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just you know, have a great data.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. And then it's interesting, you know with l's
Speaker 1: listening Sydney. You know, they had their first season and
Speaker 1: you weren't a part of that season, and then you
Speaker 1: joined the second series. You know, why do you think
Speaker 1: they they chose you to join the ranks and join
Speaker 1: Gavin and Simon and Delane, Like, why do you think
Speaker 1: the producers came and found you? Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, In terms of the real state, I think I'm
Speaker 2: represent representing luxury. So without wanting to probably it's not okay,
Speaker 2: it is a luxury, but I probably more extra. So
Speaker 2: if you look at the shows there there's a lot
Speaker 2: of details, right, So luxury is it's not just people's property.
Speaker 2: It's about this the whole package you figured out, but
Speaker 2: a little bit inside that. A few years ago, I
Speaker 2: was in a partner show with Simon Gavin Dealing and
Speaker 2: another person, right, so that I was he invited, actually
Speaker 2: the producer for the first show I did I did,
Speaker 2: I wasn't invited, but at the time, I wasn't sure
Speaker 2: because you know, I'm an entrepreneur. I'm real that I
Speaker 2: got my incredible brand. I'm one of the superstar agent.
Speaker 2: You know, if you look at my record, there's far
Speaker 2: more than you know, lots of people. So you know
Speaker 2: my last years forty five million dollars, three years ago,
Speaker 2: thirty eight million dollars or years ago, I got thirty
Speaker 2: number nine million dollars. So that's me, right, And I've
Speaker 2: been you know, I've been showcased. You know, I embraced
Speaker 2: my brand for so long. So my brand is luxury,
Speaker 2: and my brand is a bridge between East and West, right,
Speaker 2: So I'm very firm among what I stand for. So
Speaker 2: I was not sure about the show, and you know,
Speaker 2: one of the executive producers and U should be because
Speaker 2: I was I was in a palet show. I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, let's wait and see. And the second one.
Speaker 2: What's the first show? I said, Oh my god, this
Speaker 2: is incredible. So the show, if I can number one,
Speaker 2: is a serious show. It's a very good show. There's
Speaker 2: nothing controversial. It's not one of those you know, other
Speaker 2: shows I don't want me Yeah, And I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's this is a stuard. By saying that, I think
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful. We don't have to take the opportunity.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're uncomfortable with so you can always
Speaker 2: wait and see what's happening. So sometimes if it's the
Speaker 2: right thing, so it's worth waiting. I think it's definitely
Speaker 2: worth waiting. And I loved it. I love everything we
Speaker 2: have done with the show, and the result is just phenomenal.
Speaker 1: What's the reaction has been to you taking part of
Speaker 1: the series.
Speaker 2: I think my family is always supportive. I've got really
Speaker 2: supportive our husband, you're very good looking and very supportive,
Speaker 2: and my daughter is very supportive. My people back in
Speaker 2: China are my god, it is so cool. But this
Speaker 2: one thing, it's like, you know, because I'm probably the
Speaker 2: oldest one or most of the true one leasure and
Speaker 2: they say, oh my god, may look you have some winkles.
Speaker 2: So you know, you know, your family is always sometimes
Speaker 2: you know, like for Chinese, family is very critical, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. You look fabulous. You know all
Speaker 2: the Australian community or people around the world, you look incredible.
Speaker 2: So that's what I like about Western culture, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So they just really was Chinese is
Speaker 2: very critical because oh my god, I could speak a
Speaker 2: little bit better and I shouldn't have to wear that,
Speaker 2: you know, that different ring, and so yeah, this is
Speaker 2: like your family by seeing that they're amazing. They I
Speaker 2: feel they're very proud of me and doing this, and
Speaker 2: you know they're don't they never I'm still probably never
Speaker 2: Chinese never said that. Oh yes, all right, I'm you know,
Speaker 2: but I could sharing with other friends.
Speaker 1: You know as well. I was there for the launch
Speaker 1: of season two in Sydney, and so I got to
Speaker 1: be there while we viewed the first episode of the
Speaker 1: second series, and you got the best laughs. You had
Speaker 1: the most engaging reaction from that audience. You were there
Speaker 1: watching it. So I remember, you know, just introducing this
Speaker 1: larger than life character. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: You know, are you. Are you finding yourself to be
Speaker 1: quite comical or are you finding yourself like I just
Speaker 1: thought it would be interesting to know what you truly
Speaker 1: think of the version of yourself that's being created on
Speaker 1: this show.
Speaker 2: Are you. I never thought that they would capture me
Speaker 2: in that way. Okay, that's me, right, So I thought that,
Speaker 2: you know, like the probably very much focused on you know,
Speaker 2: how much commonly square metress and how much is the
Speaker 2: price or I'll look at that run right, oh look
Speaker 2: at it, you know, so rather than focus on facts,
Speaker 2: and you know, they actually kept on my capture my personality.
Speaker 2: So if you see the teaser says, oh my god,
Speaker 2: do I look to do skinny? I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't supposed to be in this show,
Speaker 2: but I think that's my personality, which I really grate
Speaker 2: for for the post production and the producers. Right. That's
Speaker 2: why sometimes people see something in you you're never see
Speaker 2: yourself again all the time, because people have more confidence
Speaker 2: in me rather than im con in myself. That's why
Speaker 2: for people who is listening to your podcast is if
Speaker 2: somebody encouraged to do something, don't be afraid. Just just
Speaker 2: get out there and try it, you know, don't don't
Speaker 2: people say, oh my god, you know, just try to
Speaker 2: do it right. That's me. So I lets a lesson.
Speaker 2: So okay, let's ask you why the gay community is
Speaker 2: so perceptive of me, right, so you give me a
Speaker 2: perfect answer, but this is not for me. So when
Speaker 2: I saw that the teaser, I don't know if you
Speaker 2: still remember, he said, oh my, I sit down with
Speaker 2: the chairs. Do I look skinny? I didn't. I don't want.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's sure. I think that's at bloody fabulous.
Speaker 2: And by saying that, I saw another side of me
Speaker 2: as well. Okay, I don't pretend I'm just funny. I
Speaker 2: was asking the Kyle Ascendler. I said, should I be
Speaker 2: like a comedian? But I said no, no, you know what
Speaker 2: I think. I never thought that could be a comedian
Speaker 2: because I couldn't even bloody speak English now and I thought, oh,
Speaker 2: I thought about you know, really is much better money.
Speaker 2: So I'm talking about that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you are funny, but I mean you're not
Speaker 1: funny like a comedian that would get up there and deliver,
Speaker 1: you know, stories or lines. I think you're funny in
Speaker 1: the context of your just being yourself. And you're saying
Speaker 1: the things that we all think about ourselves. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you get up and you're going for a job,
Speaker 1: at you you the first thing you think is do
Speaker 1: I look skinny?
Speaker 2: Do I look good? You know that? What was so funny?
Speaker 2: Oh my god? So yeah that the producision starblus and
Speaker 2: you know, they asked me, is are you okay with that?
Speaker 2: You know that's under so everything to ask. I'm probably
Speaker 2: the easiest cost. I'm just literally easiest cost. That's what
Speaker 2: I heard to walk with because I really because they
Speaker 2: are the expert. You have to and you have to
Speaker 2: trust these people to lead you up to something. It's
Speaker 2: good for the audience, it's good for me, and I
Speaker 2: just have to trust them. So I always feel I
Speaker 2: have time. I never ask for anything. That's are you
Speaker 2: happy with that? What do you think?
Speaker 1: Is?
Speaker 2: Oh what what do I think? I think it's fabulous.
Speaker 2: I just go for it. I don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not afraid. You know. That's probably my
Speaker 2: confidence as well in myself. I don't mind if you
Speaker 2: think I'm fat, That's okay. I am fat, right, I'm
Speaker 2: actually there's much skinnier than the camera. So you know
Speaker 2: that's just what I am. You know, I think that
Speaker 2: confidence is shown with guys and the audience. You can
Speaker 2: feel and you know, lots of places. My mom loves
Speaker 2: us as your mom laves me, because my mom's migrants,
Speaker 2: and so I used that a lot of migrants as well,
Speaker 2: just being yourself. Just look forward, right, This is a
Speaker 2: lucky country and the opportunities everywhere for everybody. So if
Speaker 2: I could make it, everybody can. So yeah, I truly
Speaker 2: enjoyed the show.
Speaker 1: You mentioned in the media last week that you find
Speaker 1: the filming of the master interviews a little bit stressful
Speaker 1: because English is your second language. I think you should
Speaker 1: be able to use your first language and we can
Speaker 1: just read the subtitles. What do you think. I think
Speaker 1: it'd be just as funny, and I think it would
Speaker 1: be quite progressive. Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2: A next show, you know. Yeah, yes, but you know
Speaker 2: I've been here for like thirty five years. Okay, are
Speaker 2: you really enjoying my like we'll call that like like
Speaker 2: a banama, right. Even though I'm so white and I
Speaker 2: really love the culture, I'm still like you. I think
Speaker 2: it's okay to be a chinglish call that right. So
Speaker 2: my Chinese English English, I think instead of like, my god,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not profert and so you know, I
Speaker 2: think you have so much charm? Is that but it
Speaker 2: appears to a lot of audience.
Speaker 1: But I also think, Monica, you know, we need to
Speaker 1: realize that the audience isn't as stupid as we think.
Speaker 1: And you know the popularity of TV shows like Squid
Speaker 1: Game or movies like Parasite. You know, the Australian audiences
Speaker 1: are paying money to watch international film and they're willing
Speaker 1: to follow the subtitles and they're still understanding the humor.
Speaker 1: So I just wondered whether or not it might be
Speaker 1: progressive and it might make you even more funny. It's
Speaker 1: for you to be more relad for yourself.
Speaker 2: We can do that, you know, I do know we
Speaker 2: can do that.
Speaker 1: That's the producers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll as the producers, you know, you know I
Speaker 2: respect them. If they think, oh my god, it's better,
Speaker 2: just do it, you know, whatever the problem.
Speaker 1: You know, the cast is so enigmatic, they're so amazing.
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy working with the three others?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely no. So I'm a person I
Speaker 2: work with everybody, okay, because I'm such an old school
Speaker 2: I'm a double the age of you know proof, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. Yeah, so you know, I'm fine. They're they're
Speaker 2: They're actually really nice people, and I think they see
Speaker 2: another side of me as well. I feel a lot
Speaker 2: of respect for what I do, and yeah, I think
Speaker 2: the problem. It sounds to be boring, but I had
Speaker 2: after watch dramas when they have a dramas, right, I
Speaker 2: just said that, Oh yes, you know, come on, let's
Speaker 2: do it. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: Out of Gavin, Delane and Simon, who would you give
Speaker 1: the best referral to if you had to give a
Speaker 1: work referral to one of those three, who would get
Speaker 1: the best referral from you?
Speaker 2: Okay? If I do have a referral, so I would
Speaker 2: really depending on what kind of listings or business, so
Speaker 2: who would give the best result? So I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't because they're very different and that I know them
Speaker 2: so well, or who can do so I would find
Speaker 2: out who's the best for that particular referral rather than perpose.
Speaker 2: I'm not the I don't pick up because I love you, right,
Speaker 2: So I love all of them, but I'm not really
Speaker 2: a best friend of all of them. I'm not a
Speaker 2: best friend of the business. What there's the best for
Speaker 2: my mendor and you know, I.
Speaker 3: Will pick, but I seeing that they're all good for someple,
Speaker 3: they're all good for that, they're good for something, and
Speaker 3: then that would maybe others just that I think they're
Speaker 3: the very different agent.
Speaker 1: You know. And the other thing that is that interesting
Speaker 1: about the show is I feel like I would love
Speaker 1: to see more scenes about who you all are, Like
Speaker 1: I would like to see more about your personal life.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love all of that. I mean, the
Speaker 1: listings are amazing, these houses are phenomenal, and the clothing.
Speaker 1: There's so much to this show. But I'd love to
Speaker 1: know more about you. I'd love to know more about Gavin.
Speaker 1: You know, is there any resistance from you guys to
Speaker 1: you know, let the camera crews into your house and
Speaker 1: show us more about your personal lives.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about Gavin anybody. So I don't have
Speaker 2: a So if you watch my Instagram, so I just
Speaker 2: host I port yeah, yeah, a whole part in my
Speaker 2: house with you know, old friends. So I don't have
Speaker 2: a problem. So that's that's very public. So I think
Speaker 2: I don't personally, I think I'm like an open booth.
Speaker 2: So if anything you want to know about me, and
Speaker 2: I'm happy to share. But you ask me about password,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Otherwise I would let you know, right,
Speaker 2: I don't. I just don't know. You don't need anymore.
Speaker 2: But so once you want to be open, you want
Speaker 2: to be public, you want to be a celebrity. Everything
Speaker 2: you do you have to have a really solid foundation.
Speaker 2: So you know, you go first fly, you don't crash, right,
Speaker 2: because everything I do is very transparent. I don't do
Speaker 2: a lot of bad things right, you know, like I
Speaker 2: think it's not good from my image, from my company
Speaker 2: to my business. I try to manage that really really well.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned this just a minute ago about the fashion.
Speaker 1: You know, the fashion of the show is so it's
Speaker 1: so exciting and it's a massive broad card. Is there
Speaker 1: a stylist that helps you pick the clothes or all
Speaker 1: the clothes that you're wearing your own?
Speaker 2: Yes, so we do have always a support from the
Speaker 2: cast and we have a stylist and a war job
Speaker 2: you know, aspert. But they also come to my watchhob
Speaker 2: pick up the things which is suitable for the show
Speaker 2: because I have you know, like as you can say, right,
Speaker 2: I'm very much like international and also I'm also like
Speaker 2: a brandom bastard for colors and bodies and my one
Speaker 2: of my responsibilities let the world know what Australia has
Speaker 2: to offer. So, you know, colors and body is such
Speaker 2: an icon. I think the worship no like we have
Speaker 2: beautiful you know, different design, beautifore qualities and beautiful clothes.
Speaker 2: So that's why I try to wear as much as
Speaker 2: I can and oh yeah they suit me like perfectly.
Speaker 2: So season two I think I do a lot of
Speaker 2: like like the Chanel, Balan Valentine or Gucci and all
Speaker 2: this you know, Partaga and stuff, But then the last
Speaker 2: a few episodes lots of like colors and body clothing,
Speaker 2: which is absolutely lost.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that you could have your own
Speaker 1: fashion blog and I think people would follow, you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's a huge market for it. What advice
Speaker 1: do you have for those want to be likes listings
Speaker 1: agents who want to crack the market.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if they are just you know, already
Speaker 2: in the industry or you're just about complete industry and
Speaker 2: I can't give you a governtee, this is the best industry.
Speaker 2: I just look at me. I wanted about thirteen years
Speaker 2: in the market, and you know, I know nothing about
Speaker 2: real estate, just saying right, and it's phenomenal. So even
Speaker 2: I'm like eighty five years old, if I want to work,
Speaker 2: I still have work in the industry because it's phenomenal
Speaker 2: and it's really good money. Just saying right. But the
Speaker 2: most important thing is that you have to be patient. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not the overnight success. If you look at all
Speaker 2: of us billing thirty years, devin't work. So I don't
Speaker 2: know since it's eighteen or something, right, So you know
Speaker 2: myself is you know, we'll work seven days away and
Speaker 2: do today. I did today, even we're huge successful, but
Speaker 2: still very hard working to start with and be patient.
Speaker 2: So most importantly, so much competition in the market, but
Speaker 2: you have to find out your personal branding. So if
Speaker 2: you think about money gods straight away you think about
Speaker 2: is mid West luxury right, hard working woman entrepreneur, you know,
Speaker 2: and maybe I'm very charitable, right, this is my brain,
Speaker 2: but what is your brain? So you could be I
Speaker 2: just give you a quick exempleizer. If you want to
Speaker 2: work with specializing gay community, just say right. So you
Speaker 2: have to understand, you know what what you know that
Speaker 2: your community is looking for a terrorist house. You know,
Speaker 2: you have to become an expert for that particular community
Speaker 2: because you cannot be everything and everywhere. And once you
Speaker 2: found that niche market, you stay in that market, really understand,
Speaker 2: really delivered the service, and build a relationship and trustmit,
Speaker 2: business will come. So at the moment, I don't have
Speaker 2: time to do door knocking. You know, if I have,
Speaker 2: I will, but I just don't have time. But people
Speaker 2: just calling me because if you think about central Chinese,
Speaker 2: who doesn't want the civil Chinese? Right, If you want
Speaker 2: to say, get a premium price, and if I want
Speaker 2: somebody really trusts with my property, they think about me.
Speaker 2: So I have to got a lot of like incredible
Speaker 2: special properties, which is like probably be difficult to sell
Speaker 2: some other age you already try. They come back to
Speaker 2: me because I'd be honest with them because I really
Speaker 2: understand why they build that house, why they product special
Speaker 2: elements of our paintings to that house. That's my brand.
Speaker 2: But you just have to find your brand longevity. Right,
Speaker 2: So just imagine Monic at eighty five years the one
Speaker 2: I'm sixty, right, I still like you enjoying everything I do.
Speaker 1: I love that about it, and you know we all
Speaker 1: just need that really cool soundtrack. What about a season four?
Speaker 1: Do you know anything? Have they asked you about a
Speaker 1: season for? Do you know whether we're getting a season four?
Speaker 1: What can you tell us?
Speaker 2: I have no idea, So I have a meeting. So
Speaker 2: I've got called from you know, the Amazon from Americas
Speaker 2: that have come up. Withet me next week, just have dinner.
Speaker 2: I said, you pay for dinner. Okay, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? But I don't know. Is very much up
Speaker 2: to the you know what the prime videos looking for?
Speaker 2: And you know, so seriously I don't know. But if
Speaker 2: they're sitting for we really have to serious consider because
Speaker 2: there's a very lot of commitment in terms of time
Speaker 2: and I think all the past probably we think about, okay,
Speaker 2: are we going to continue doing it or you know,
Speaker 2: like the show is benefits to the business and have
Speaker 2: the time management all these kind of things. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just you know, if you if you are no sitting force,
Speaker 2: just you know us lots of listening. Sydney just keeps
Speaker 2: the suiting for yes, and then then we think about it.
Speaker 1: I'll keep commenting on the Facebook and on giving and
Speaker 1: follow on Twitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, follow on my Instagram. Money got to age eight.
Speaker 1: It's a question I ask everyone who joins the podcast,
Speaker 1: is what something from behind the scenes, something that we
Speaker 1: we didn't see or we won't see, kind of like
Speaker 1: a behind the scene secret from making lux listings Sydney.
Speaker 2: The secret is, like, it's a really to make a
Speaker 2: show like that. You know, there's something I never realized.
Speaker 2: You have a crew of probably about like thirty forty people,
Speaker 2: you know, Like it's just such a hard work and
Speaker 2: you make so much, you know, and then the cuts
Speaker 2: are so little, right, so if you want to be
Speaker 2: a celebrity, you really have to appreciate their passion and
Speaker 2: love for that. Otherwise it's not possible. It's just so
Speaker 2: time consuming. Okay, luckily it's an unscripted so it can
Speaker 2: be ourselves.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just so much, so much work behind each episode.
Speaker 2: Hopefully everybody will enjoy. It's hard, it's not easy.
Speaker 1: Tonica. I love you on the show, and I just
Speaker 1: want to say thank you so much for being so
Speaker 1: generous talking with me today and having a chat about
Speaker 1: the show. And yeah, just being is being yourself, which
Speaker 1: I think is really important when you are being on television.
Speaker 1: So thank you, thank.
Speaker 2: You so much for having made then thank you so
Speaker 2: much to give me the feedback, and now I learned something.
Speaker 2: I hope your audience were really, really enjoying your podcast.