1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Darren from Wicked Needs in Alice. Good morning to you, Darren. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Good Katie. How are you not bad? 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Mate? 4 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 2: Now? 5 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: For those who don't know, you also run the Action 6 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: for Alice page on social media. Mate, how are things 7 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: going from your perspective in Alice Springs right now? 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: It's no good, Codie, It's no good. I haven't got 9 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: much better. Last week in was just chaos, absolute chaos, 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: and we highlighted that. I woke up Sunday morning and 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: went whack into the messages and it was unbelievable. I 12 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: just I just sat there, just can't be serious. And 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: that's when I that's when I and then started posting 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: about Patma. Okay, how can you actually have this kind 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: of crime going on? People being randomly bashed outside the 16 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: hotel as they walk around the street, a girl being 17 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: something in the side of a face, so car's being 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: jumped on. So you're going to have those kind of things, 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: and you're going to have a major tourist event in 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: the CBD. And I called Natasha Files out on it 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: and that's back down. They've moved it. Instead of instead 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: of going at the problem, this is what they do. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,479 Speaker 2: This is what they do. I will just move that. Now, 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 2: we'll just move that. So everyone that's now a free 25 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: events for the public. They were so now they're gone. 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: That's all right. So what else is next? What's next? 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: Now? So Darren talk us through on the weekend. You 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: said that there was there was somebody who was randomly 29 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: badhed somebody else sumped in the head. From what I'm hearing, 30 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like things are getting better. It sounds 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: like the worst just about. 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just comes in waves. And the one thing, Cody, 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: I've really really noticed, and I've studied this now over 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: twelve months. Yeah, you get a full moon cycle and 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: that's when we start to really get it really bad. 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: Full moon is nuts. I can nearly bet my bottom 37 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: dollar you have a full moon and whack here you go. 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: Now we know the police minister's there today. I believe 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: is she going to be meeting with members of the 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: public as far as you know. 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't know. 42 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 3: I would know they're all around down here, that there's 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: a heap of there's a heap of hierarchy, spleece down here. 44 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: I briefly saw the commissioner last night. I look, no 45 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: one's got any answers yeah, and then you've got them 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: the member for Braakling, who's just set them on before me. 47 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: I listened to that. 48 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 49 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: Twenty four weeks, twenty four weeks since the election. So 50 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: the MLA in our Springs actually had a meeting with 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 2: a government minister here in town about crime. So don't 52 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: bloody will say you're having a go and you're hurting 53 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: Josh and boy, because you're not. The people down here 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: are hurting and you don't give too hoop half the time. Mate, 55 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: you're away, you're away at Christmas having a holiday. While 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: we're here, our businesses are getting broken into, homes are 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: getting broken into it and then you come back all 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: of a sudden you jump on it. You didn't say 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: nothing for a week. Yeah I've been visiting businesses. Yeah, 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: you've only been doing that for two weeks. Mate. It's 61 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: not good enough. It's not good enough for anyone. So 62 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 2: it sounds n position whether you're the government. Yeah, better 63 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: and Darren the bullshit. We're fed up being told bullshit 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 2: and it's time. It's time everyone. You're getting paid guy, 65 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: you're getting paid by the public. Pull your heads in 66 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: and look after it. Because you don't. It's going to 67 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: be like this place is simmering down here, Cuddy. Oh mate, 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 2: interviews with. 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: You now, Yes, righteous, I was just thinking. I was 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: about to say that you and I have been talking 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: for some time about this, and you know, I've got 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: to be honest, Darren. This is the most upset I've 73 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: ever heard you sound. 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, Look, look, they're not going to fix this. 75 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: Let's let's cut to the chase. Let's cut to the chase. 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: They've left it. They've all left it too long. The 77 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: Department of Education doesn't talk to territory families. Territory families 78 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: don't feed information to the police. How are you going 79 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: to fix it? Half of these kids getting around school, 80 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: around the streets. They're saying, oh, they should be in 81 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: People are saying they should be in school. I can't 82 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: be half of my dard is rolled in a school. Yeah, 83 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: I've got a message. I had messages the other night. 84 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off. I have messaged the other 85 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: Knight from a young fellow. Right, he's on the streets. 86 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: So we had a nice little, of course, a conversation. 87 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: So I'm going to communicate with this young fellow. And 88 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: he's part of the Crypts gang. So we've got this 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: little gang gang mentality thing down here. We've got the 90 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: crypts in the blood So after which gang is from, 91 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: He's from the crypt. So I said, well, what are 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: you doing out on the streets? Mate? There goes Mate. 93 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: We just don't want you to hurt us. I said, no, 94 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: one's going. We want we actually want you to be safe. Mate. 95 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: We want you off the streets. We want you to 96 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: be done to school and get an education. Mate. We're 97 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 2: as worried about you as what we're worried about a 98 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: windscreen or a shop. Now. We had a really good conversation. Yeah, 99 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: and then in the end of it, I said, mate, 100 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: you've got to stay safe, buddy, Yeah, and keep your 101 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: brother safe. And you don't what he said to me, 102 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to do that. I said, what are you 103 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: going to do? He said, I'm taking all my home 104 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 2: in We're going home. So why are territory families and 105 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: all these youth services that are driving around in these 106 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: vans every bloody night? Why are they getting out and 107 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: having these conversations. I go down on the streets Katie 108 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: during the night. I'm passionate about this bloody town and 109 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: I'm passionate about this issue. Yeah, I've watched the services. 110 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: They drive past the kids. They don't even get out 111 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: of the bloody mean So look, I actually think Michael 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: Gunner get sped all the information they get, the wolve 113 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 2: pulled over his eyes. He comes down ere, the streets 114 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 2: have been queen and they feed him bullshit. How about Michael, 115 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 2: you come down here, mate, you've been in my house, 116 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 2: Come and lock on my door at about ten o'clock 117 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: at night and we'll drive around for six hours unadult 118 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: or rated drive. 119 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: So Darren, you be luckily. 120 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: Let's stop Bloody's sneering over this bullshit because we've got 121 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: these kids on the streets that need to be kept safe. Yeah, 122 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: we're going to lose one or two or three generations 123 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: of kids. Here come one, Bloody start doing something. 124 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and mate, So despite all of it, you know, 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: despite what you've gone through, and despite what's happening in 126 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: the town, and you know the anger that you felt 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years towards the government and 128 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: no doubt towards the opposition as well, you be prepared 129 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: to have a drive around with the Chief Minister and 130 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: really let him see exactly what you see. When you're 131 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: out there. 132 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: Every day of the week. He comes sat down with 133 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 2: me two weeks before the election, me and my partner 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: sat down with us for about half an hour in 135 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: our home, which I appreciate it. I thought that's good, 136 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 2: he assured me. After the election the boot cancill kick in, 137 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: there will be consequences of this. Will do this, will 138 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: change this public service, will be accountable for their actions. 139 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: They we'll have to do their job. Well, buddy, they're 140 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: not and you're not making them accountable. And someone's pulling 141 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: the wool over your eyes. Michael ye Adam's making look 142 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: making you look really bad, buddy. So how about you 143 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: come down here, hang out with some real locaels, no bullshit, 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: and we'll drive you around and we'll show you the truth. 145 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: Darren, Mate, I'm gonna have to leave it there. I 146 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: really appreciate your call this morning. Thank you for actually 147 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: letting people know here in the top end exactly how 148 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: you guys are feeling at the moment. 149 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: Nor Cotie, thank you for time anytime. 150 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: We're always happy to talk to you, and we will 151 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: talk to you again very soon. We are hoping to 152 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: come to Alice Springs at some point very soon and 153 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: if we do. You're the top of our list to 154 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: call good on you. Thank you Darren there from Wicked Needs. 155 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: I tell you what, that's pretty bloody heartbreaking stuff to hear. 156 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: You know, they sound like they're at their wits end. 157 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. And you know, I think, 158 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: as you've just heard there from Darren, he said it best. 159 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: We need to. Everybody's just got to put their political 160 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: views to the side for a second and realize that 161 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: in Alice Springs right now, they are screaming out for help. 162 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: They're screaming out for things to change, and you need 163 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: to listen