1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Already and this this is the Daily. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: This is the Daily OS. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Oh, now it makes sense. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Thursday, 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: the twenty fourth of October. I'm Billy fitz Simons. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm Emma Gillespie. 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: One hundred and fifty seven million Australian dollars. That's the 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: value of the jewelry stolen from the world's most visited museum, 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: the Louver in Paris last Sunday. All up, the heist 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: took less than ten minutes, and it was all done 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: in broad daylight with visitors in the museum, in a 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: story that resembles a Hollywood movie. Today we're breaking down 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: what really happened and how thieves pulled off a heist 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 2: that's left authorities stunned and raised serious questions about security 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: at the Louver. 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: Billy, I am so excited that we are talking about 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: this story. As you said, reads like the plot of 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: a Hollywood movie. Think Ocean's Eleven Oceans eight, The Italian Job, 19 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Mission Impossible. Every highst movie in the world in history 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: is a screenplay for what has actually happened in real 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: life in Paris this week. It feels almost unbelievable. That 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five and something like this is making headlines. 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: But where do we even begin? Where do you want 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: to begin with this story? 25 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: I think what's amazing is that it does sound like 26 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: it's from a Hollywood movie, but significantly like lower tech, 27 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: Like it's not. They're not coming out of ceilings. This 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: whole story starts with a ladder, just a normal ladder 29 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: that you would find. 30 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: On a street. 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable picture this. It's nine thirty am on Sunday 32 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: morning in Paris. The doors to the Louver have been 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: open to the public for about thirty minutes at this stage, 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: the public of air to see things like the Mona Lisa, 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: the most famous painting in the world. 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of the most iconic and instantly 37 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: recognizable museums in the entire world. Yes, a Sunday morning 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: at this time of year in Paris, at this museum, 39 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: it must have been heaving. 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: Yes, so many tourists. 41 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Anyone who has been to the Louver who's listening will know, 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: any time of day, any time of year, it is 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: absolutely packed. 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: I was actually just there a month ago, but we 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: don't have time for that. Back to this story, so 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: where were you on the surturday? At ninth Okay, so 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: it's nine point thirty am. A truck pulls up about 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty meters away from the main entrance. 49 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: That truck has some mechanical ladders which it mounts, which 50 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: the thieves mount to one of the windows on the 51 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 2: second floor. Now at this stage, no one has noticed 52 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: anything out of the ordinary as far as we know. 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so it's business as usual. 54 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: Business as usual. Those kinds of ladders that they mounted 55 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: are quite common in Paris to be able to get 56 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: bigger items into small apartments in Paris, especially ones that 57 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: aren't on the first floor. I guess it just it 58 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: really blended in Okay. 59 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of imagining almost like a bit of 60 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: a construction site or people just walking past thinking, oh, 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: that must be a maintenance guy. 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: Yes, And so they use this ladder to get access 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: to the window on the second floor. They climb up 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: the ladder two men. That's two men who are climbing 65 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: up this ladder. We know at least one of the 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: men were wearing high vizves, which tells us that they 67 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: were probably trying to look like they were construction workers, okay, 68 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: and they used power tools to break into the window 69 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: and gain access to the gallery. 70 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting comparing this to the Hollywood Hihst films where 71 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: you're thinking, you know, Balaclava's black turtlenecks. But it's kind 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: of almost I guess ingenius. Obviously we're not endorsing crime, 73 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: but if I walked past people in high viers, I 74 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: guess I would not have cause to question. No. So 75 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: we've used these to scale to the second floor, open 76 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: the windows with power tools. How long has that taken? 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: And then what happens? 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: So it's about four minutes it takes for the truck 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: to roll up, the ladder to be mounted, and for 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: them to climb up it. One thing to note is 81 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: that the French authorities have confirmed that the galley's windows 82 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: are not reinforced. Now you might be thinking, what does 83 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 2: that mean. I've never heard of windows being reinforced. What 84 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: I have now learned is that reinforced windows just mean 85 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: that windows have been strengthened with something like metal inserts 86 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: to be more durable and more resistant to breaking. Now, 87 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: these windows were not that they did not have that 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: level of security. 89 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm really surprised to hear that because of the 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: aforementioned notoriety of this museum and all the valuables it contains, 91 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that they wouldn't even at least have like a thickened 92 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: type of glass. Also, I'm really struck by the fact 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 1: you said that we're at nine point thirty four now, 94 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: essentially in less than the time it's taken for us 95 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: to get to this point of the podcast. These guys 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: are in the building. 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: They are in the building. 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Now. 99 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: What is interesting is you might presume that there would 100 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: be security guards inside the building. You are correct in 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: thinking that, But what we have learned is that museum 102 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: protocol is that if there are intruders, security guards who 103 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: are unarmed, so they don't have any guns on them 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 2: or anything like that. Yeah, those security guards have been 105 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: told that they should evacuate the room and usher visitors 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: to safety. And so that's exactly what happened. Once the 107 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: security guards saw the intruders, they left the room. Wow. 108 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so the process at the loover is intruder spotted. 109 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Security guards are ordered to prioritize the safety of the. 110 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: Visitors exactly because they don't have anything on them to 111 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: protect themselves and to protect visitors, and they also don't 112 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: know if the intruders have weapons on them. 113 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I wonder if the thieves knew that, if they 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: were kind of clued into the protocol for security guards. 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: Most likely. I think everything that I've read is that 116 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: authorities believe that these were very experienced criminal members. 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: So we have scaled the building, we're in the room. 118 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: The security guards have cleared out, which also takes care 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: of the tourists and visitors looking at the art and 120 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: objects in the room. Where do the thieves go next? 121 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 2: So the thieves then go straight to the metal cabinets 122 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: where the jewels are being held. They use angle grinders. Again, 123 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: I didn't know what those were. 124 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Do you classic construction site instrument. If you don't know 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: what an angle grinder looks like, you certainly know what 126 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: it sounds like. 127 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it's an electrical tool that they basically use to 128 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: just slice through the cabinet. The thieves went through two cabinets, 129 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 2: they grabbed nine jewels, and then they left. Now, the 130 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: breaking into the cabinets also triggered some alarms. One thing 131 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: to mention, which is kind of a side note, and 132 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: we don't really have too many details about this, But 133 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: we know that the alarms at the louver were recently 134 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: broken and we think they were fixed, but there could 135 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: have been some issues. We don't know how widely the 136 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: alarms were heard when they did go off, but they 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: are investigating that because there could have been an issue 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: with the alarms. 139 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so everything you've told me so far does not 140 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: exactly paint a picture of a maximum security environment. It 141 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: feels like a couple of things lined up almost perfectly 142 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: for this robbery. 143 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: Yes, and it has led to many questions about the 144 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: security at literally the world's most famous museum and how 145 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: this possibly could have happened like this. Another thing to 146 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: note is that the security guards actually refuse to work 147 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: the next day after this happened because they were so 148 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: concerned about their own security and they said to the 149 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 2: museum that you have to tell us what you're doing 150 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: to reinforce our own security during this. 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: And I guess, with this story capturing international attention in 152 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: the way that it has, it was highly publicized, you 153 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: could be concerned if you worked there that that was 154 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: going to maybe inspire copycat behavior or attempts at threatening 155 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: the safety of visitors and stuff at Axum Okay, but 156 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: at this stage in the heist, the thieves have the jewels. 157 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: That's all happened very quickly. I do want to quickly 158 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: just mention the jewels that they have taken are the 159 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: French Crown jewels. They come from a collection that dates 160 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: back to the Napoleon era. Priceless, priceless gems. You might 161 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: have seen some of the images, you know, a beautiful 162 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: necklace dripping in huge emeralds, exactly the kind of storybook 163 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: royal family jewelry that you're probably imagining. So they've stashed 164 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: all of that, and that's happened quickly, and then they 165 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: get out. 166 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 2: Then they get out. The whole thing takes three minutes 167 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: and fifty seven seconds, so there's no faffing about. They 168 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: get the jewels and they leave. Once the thieves leave, 169 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: they actually tried to light their ladder and their truck 170 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 2: on fire, but at this point the security guards had 171 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: returned and chased them away, and so they didn't have 172 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: time to do that. They tried, but it didn't work. 173 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: What comes next you will have to wait and find out. 174 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: After a quick word from today's sponsor. Okay, Billy, the 175 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: thieves have the precious priceless jewels. But their getaway plan 176 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: has been foiled because by the time they get out 177 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: of their obviously the alarm has been well and truly raised. 178 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: The heaters on the security are pursuing them. So how 179 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: did they actually get away if the plan with the 180 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: truck filed. 181 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: Yes, so at this point they are on the ground 182 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: now and they have two high powered scooters waiting for them, 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: two other people helping them assisting them. They are on 184 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: the scooters. These two men with the jewels get on 185 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: the back of the scooters and they leave. 186 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: Like vesper scooters. 187 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: Yes, but think more high powers. 188 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is literally the Italian. 189 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: Job, Yes, which is a movie I just recently watched. 190 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Ago. They're not helping with your alibi, Bili, Okay, so 191 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: they get away. 192 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 2: They get away. However, they did drop one of the jewels, 193 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 2: which was a crown made of golden emeralds with more 194 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 2: than one three hundred diamonds. So in the hurry of 195 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: getting away, they dropped that and security guards found the 196 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: crown broken outside the museum. That alone is worth several 197 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: tens of millions of euros. 198 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe they dropped it. I can't believe it broke. 199 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: Yes, So this whole thing didn't go down perfectly, you know, 200 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: between not being able to light the ladder on fire 201 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: to dropping this jewel, it didn't go exactly perfectly. Another 202 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: thing that is intro is the thieves left behind one 203 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: diamond worth sixty million US dollars, and authorities have been 204 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: really confused by that. They don't know why they left 205 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: behind this particular diamond. It's a massive, massive diamond. But 206 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: all the ones they did take, which like you said, 207 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: they are from the nineteenth century, they are worn by 208 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: French royalty, they have huge historical value, but they also 209 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 2: of course have huge financial value. It just came out 210 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: yesterday that everything they did take is worth all together 211 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: and estimated eighty eight million euros, which is about one 212 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty seven million Australian dollars. 213 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: It's a lot of money. I think it's really interesting 214 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: they left that one iconic Regent diamond behind. I have 215 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: heard experts suggesting that the thieves were not interested really 216 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: in the historical value of these pieces. It would be 217 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: incredibly hard for them to sell them in their current 218 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: state because they are so recognized. 219 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: Well, that's another thing that is really interesting and why 220 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: authorities really have a race against time now because they're 221 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: not expecting that the thieves will now just resell, or 222 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: not resell, but will now go on to sell any 223 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 2: of these jewels. They believe that they will melt the 224 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: gold and silver down and then recut them, which will 225 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: of course get rid of the historical value, but will 226 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: mean that they can resell the jewelry and you won't 227 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: be able to recognize that it is these ones that 228 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 2: were stolen from the loof. 229 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. And if you look at the size of some 230 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: of the stones in this collection, one of them alone 231 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: could be cut down into tens, if not hundreds of 232 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: other smaller pieces, like you know, take one big sapphire, 233 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: turn it into fifty odd rings. And for people in 234 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: this field, even the highest experts in this kind of 235 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: collection could not recognize a nineteenth century Napoleonic gem in 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: a different form like they suggest these thieves are interested 237 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: in doing. 238 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, authorities do hope that they will be able to 239 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: find the criminals in time to be able to get 240 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: them before anything like that happens. French President Manuel Macron 241 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: has vowed authorities will recover the works, but I think 242 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: a lot of people and a lot of experts are 243 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: doubtful that they will ever see these jewels again. 244 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: Do you know, belie if investigators have any lead, how 245 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: are they approaching this task now? 246 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: We have no information about that. As far as we know, 247 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: they don't have any leads. Perhaps they do when they're 248 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: just not telling the public and the media. Officials have 249 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 2: said that there are sixty investigators working on this case. 250 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: They are questioning witnesses, going through all the footage from 251 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: surveillance cameras, but they have no idea as far as 252 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: we know where they fled to. They do believe, as 253 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 2: you can imagine, that this was a very experienced team 254 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: of criminals. Yep, but that's kind of. 255 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: All we know. And I heard has been closed ever 256 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: since this happened. Is that true? 257 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, So the time of recording, it still has not 258 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: opened again and we don't know when it will open again. 259 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Wow. This is a fascinating story, so many repercussions. I'm 260 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: sure the internal security at the LOUVER will be reviewing 261 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: things with enormous interest, and I'm sure, you know, maybe 262 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: there'll be more questions to come about funding, etc. How 263 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: the museum is being managed more broadly and maybe the 264 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: government will have more to say on that in the 265 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: days or weeks to come. 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm sure they will. 267 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: Billy, thank you so much for taking us through that 268 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: fascinating story. I look forward to the Netflix dramatization in 269 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: the years to come, and thank you for listening to 270 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: today's episode. We'll be back a little bit later on 271 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: in the day with your afternoon news headlines, but until then, 272 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: have a good one. 273 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 2: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 274 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: Bungelung Caalcultin woman from Gadigal country. The Daily oz acknowledges 275 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 276 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: Gadigal people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and torrest 277 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: Rate island and nations. 278 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: We pay our respects to the first peoples of these countries, 279 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: both past and present.