1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: There is some pretty pressing issues I think here in 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory right now. And we did learn on 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: Friday that in an absolutely horrendous situation that a young 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: child had been assaulted in Tenant Creek. Now, the Northern 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Territory Police have now charged a fifty two year old 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: male in relation to an alleged sexual assault in Tenant 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: Creek last week. That Mail has been charged with gross 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: indecency against the child under ten years, aggravated assault and 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: he's been remanded to here. He's been reminded in custody 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: to appear in the Allae Springs Local Court on Wednesday. Now, 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: we spoke to the Chief Minister evil Ala a short 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: time ago. I asked her whether she had spoken to 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister about this latest incident, particularly given the 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: fact that Steve Edgington has really been calling out and 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: really quite upset about the situation with the lack of 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: movement on the Barkley Regional Deal. Joining me on the 17 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: line right now is the COLP Senator for the Northern Territory, 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: just enter Price. Good morning to you. 19 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: Good morning Katie. 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Are you as upsats and disgusted by this horrific incident 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: that happened in Tenant Creek last week. 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: As I am, I'm I'm absolutely disgusted by this incident, 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: and of course I'm also aware of the incident that 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: occurred to the seven year old and December as well. 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: I'm upset that these incidents continue to occur in places 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: like Tenant Creek and I yet to understand what the hell, 27 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: you know, the territory government is doing about it, but 28 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: also more broadly, what the Prime Minister is doing to 29 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: push his counterpart in the territory to do better and 30 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: or step in himself to you know, make sure that 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: the communities that our children are in fact protected. You know, 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: he popped in the beginning of last year announced two 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars in Central Australia to support 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: issues like this, and there's nothing of it. There's absolutely 35 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: nothing of it. 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: And I mean it goes a step further because we 37 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: know that you know that when there was a horrendous 38 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: attack five years ago on a two year old child, 39 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: Malcolm Turnbull had been in Tenant Creek. He actually went 40 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: to Tenant Creek after that had happened and made the 41 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: announcement that there would be that you know that there 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: would be an audit, that there would be a review. 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: Steve Edgington seems like he's really pretty upset about this 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: whole situation. He says that that promised review and audit 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: in line with the Barkley Regional Deal has not happened yet. 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: The Chief Minister confirmed this morning that she has not 47 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: contacted the Prime Minister since that incident that we learned 48 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: about on Friday. 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely disgusting and Steve is right to the 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: upset that nothing has come up about, you know, since 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: starting an inquiry into you know what the community of 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: ten and Crek really need to move forward to support 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: our most vulnerable. Why it's just been left by the wayside. 54 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 2: I'd like to understand, we need answers, the community needs answers. 55 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: It can't continue down the road line. And look, I 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: will say I'm really disappointed in Marion Skimmer's comments to suggest, 57 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: you know, outright so we can't turn it into a 58 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: political issue by saying that she has done so. And 59 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: you know, this is about something that I've been screaming 60 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: about for years, about protecting our most vulnerable, protecting our children, 61 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: particularly in community. But the focus is never placed on 62 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: the needs upholding the human rights of our children within 63 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: our communities, and that's where we need to begin instead 64 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: of these ideological approaches that we continually take. Our children 65 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: need to be protected. They are our future. They are 66 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: our most precious asset in our country, and that's how 67 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: we should aim should be to look after them. 68 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: And this latest incident that occurred last week is appalling, 69 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: you know, to put it very mildly, but to be 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: really blunt about it, it is not the only thing 71 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: that's been going on in Tenant Creek for quite some time. 72 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: You know, we've got locals there, You've got business owners, 73 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: You've got people in Tennant Greek that have been screaming 74 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: out for help for quite some time. When it comes 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: to the issues of crime and safety, what do you 76 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: think needs to happen as a matter of urgency. 77 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: Look, as a matter of urgency, the government needs to 78 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: commit to is to begin what it started, what's supposed 79 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: to have started with the Barkley Regional Ideal. I don't 80 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: think we're going to get anything from the territory government 81 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: or the federal government at this stage. What I see 82 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: is going to need to happen is a change of 83 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 2: governments in order for anything to occur that's going to 84 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: improve the lives of our most marginalized in our communities. 85 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: But we should not be going easy on perpetrators. We 86 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: should not be giving them a free path. Perpetrators should 87 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: be driven out of communities. They shouldn't be allowed to 88 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: stay in community. There needs to be an education program 89 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: four families and four children so that they understand how 90 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 2: to better protect their own children, to look for the 91 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 2: signs of predatory behavior. I mean, that's what we've come to, 92 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: because it seems that we've now got it seems individuals 93 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: who are prepared to assault our children in this way, 94 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: and it's almost now the responsibility of families to take 95 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: care and protect their children against this kind of behavior 96 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: because evidently there is not enough deterrence being provided. You know, 97 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: the consequences of these actually and should be absolutely should 98 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 2: meet the actions basically should stop these people from behaving 99 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: this way. They should have lengthy jail sentences for this behavior. 100 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: They should never be able to go anywhere near children 101 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: in these communities, especially they're victims. 102 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: Ever again, Ja Cintra, I do want to ask you 103 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: on the show on Friday, on the week that was 104 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: we had Kate Warden on the show, and she had 105 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: spoken about her frustration in some instances with land councils 106 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: not stepping up. I'll play a bit of that audio 107 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: for you and then I'm keen to get your response. 108 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: Take a listen. 109 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: That's one of my frustrations about being in government, honestly, 110 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: is how long some things take to deliver. And I'll 111 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: give you a really stark example. We wanted to put 112 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: a work camp and we're still working on that in 113 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: an intendant Creek for young people, and it took three 114 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: years to get an Indigenous land use agreement. Three years. 115 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: Why for the very same people that the programs there 116 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: would benefit. Because that's the processes it takes to get 117 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 3: lang cals on board three years. And as the minister 118 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: at the time, I'll tell you how frustrated I was 119 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,559 Speaker 3: to the point that I'm saying, let's find another space 120 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: at government own. 121 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: So are you saying that land councils are holding things up? 122 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Holding things up? Absolutely? 123 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: So the low why it's. 124 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: It's large bureocracy. They just maybe they don't have the 125 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: resources to get people out to do the right consultations. 126 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: I don't know, Cinta, what do you make of those 127 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: comments on Friday. 128 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's that's incredible coming from Kate Warden. It's probably 129 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: the first time I've actually agreed with her on something. 130 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: You know, this is exactly why the voice was never 131 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: going to work, because it was going to be an 132 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: extension of that bureaucracy once more. But she supported that 133 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: for some silly reason. This is why we've been calling 134 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: for an inquiry into the land councils because effectively they 135 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: are a hindrance to opportunities for our most marginalized. Perhaps 136 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: Kate Wardens can have a conversation with the Prime Minister 137 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: and mister Bernie about supporting Michael for an inquiry so 138 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: that we can make sure that our most vulnerable are 139 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: actually reaping the benefits of their own land and supporting 140 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: their children going into the future in the best way possible. 141 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: Jacinta, before I let you go this morning, plenty of 142 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: talk about Barnaby being on the ground. He's been filmed, 143 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: of course, mixing well. He says that he mixed alcohol 144 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: and prescription medication on the night he was filmed on 145 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: the ground and saying profanities over the phone in Canberra. 146 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: The footage surfaced late last week showing the former Deputy 147 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Prime Minister laying in Lonsdale Streets in Braddon on Wednesday 148 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: night about eleven thirty. A bit of a mixed bag 149 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: on the text line from our listeners this morning, some 150 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: saying come on, Katie, you know you never mixed prescription 151 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: medication with alcohol. Others saying come on, he was just 152 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: having a lay down on the footpath. I mean it's 153 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: not a great look, is it. 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: Well, those issues are certainly for Barnaby to deal with 155 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: in his capacity he and his family, and anything beyond 156 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: that ismin is going to be determined by leadership as well. 157 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: For me, I'm certainly focused on the issues that I 158 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: need to fight for in terms of my portfolio and 159 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,119 Speaker 2: more broadly for the Northern territory. 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: What is the leadership saying at this point, Jacenter? Or 161 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: do we not really know? Oh? 162 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: Look, I think they're having those conversations that are being 163 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: had and making those determinations in conjunctions with Barnaby himself. 164 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: I guess. Well. 165 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: Look, I appreciate your time as always, Thank you very 166 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: much for joining us this morning, and no doubt we'll 167 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: talk to you again. 168 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: Soon, no problem. 169 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: Thanks, thank you,