1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Now joining us in the studio is the Mayor of Palmerston, 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Athena Pasco Bell. Good morning to you. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: Good morning now, Mayor. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: We have just been speaking about the Molden Oval concerns 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: obviously raised with us a couple of weeks ago by 6 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: both of the sporting clubs when it comes to Molden 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: Oval and the state of the oval and now not 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: being able to use it. The Council doesn't have management 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 1: over that oval that I. 10 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Do though, no, and we never have. It's always been 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: the school oval, so you know, it's never been under 12 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: council's management. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: So what was the Chief Minister talking about when she 14 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: was talking about the boar. 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so council was managing the boar and then at 16 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: the end of the wet season we realized that there 17 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: was a problem with it, so it wasn't operational, but 18 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: Council did get it up and running again as soon 19 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: as we could. It did take a little bit of 20 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: time to get replacement parts in to get it operational, 21 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: and then once we realized that the only group that 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: was using it was the school and the boar wasn't 23 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: even on council land right, So we discussed it with 24 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: Dipple and we've handed it back to Dipple to manage 25 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: that now because it is on Crown land, we're not 26 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: using the boar. We just restored it to working condition 27 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: before we handed it back to the government. But it's 28 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: always been the school's responsibility to maintain the oval. 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: So you said then that when you realize that the 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: school was the only ones using the oval, but there 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: are the sporting clubs using the oval as well, that 32 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: doesn't matter though from like that doesn't come into it 33 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: from council's perspective. 34 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: No, because I mean it's up to them who manages 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: what between the sporting groups and the school, and that's 36 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 2: completely out of Council's hands. The only thing that we 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: did was, you know, we managed the boar there. But 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: these bores are getting old. So we've had a number 39 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: of bar failures in the last couple of years, so 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: one at Marlow Lagoon, one in Driver so they've had 41 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: to be refurbished and while that happens, unfortunately things brown 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: off because we can't use them. So it's problematic because 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: we have a lot of bores in Palmerston. It is groundwater. 44 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: I heard the Chief Minister mention that you don't actually 45 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: pay for the water, which is correct, just paying for 46 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: the maintenance and the electricity. Yeah, but they are getting 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: to an age now where they're just unreliable and they 48 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: could collapse at any time, or there could be some 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: electrical failure or failure with the pump. And then you know, 50 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: these are serious sized pumps and not the small pumps 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: that you get out in the rural area because we're 52 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: watering vast areas. 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: So is that so from your perspective, Council's handed the 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: boar you've just said to dipple, so in working condition? Yeah, yeah, 55 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: so it's it's good to go again now. 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the condition it's in, they're going 57 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 2: to have to sort out watering times and top dressing 58 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: and getting it all back up to a standard that's 59 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: you know, workable. 60 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: So from your perspective, from council's perspective, you guys have managed, 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, given the fact that it's not actually your land, 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: you have managed that the bear that you can. Yeah. Yeah, 63 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean we're I'm a bit confused because we're being 64 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: told by some that the boor's not working, but from 65 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: what you are saying, it is working now. 66 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: Well, when we handed it over it was working so well, 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: that's as far as I know. It was working when 68 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: we handed it over. 69 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: All, right, we'll follow it up now we had we 70 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: had some concerns raised last week and Jerry would have 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: actually messaged us about this, questioning if councils should be 72 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: standing side by side with Polly's in the lead into 73 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: an election when they're making election promises, so not funding announcements, 74 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: but election promises like we'd seen with the Chief Minister 75 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: out in Palmerston and the council obviously yourself standing there 76 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: side by side when she was making that election commitment. 77 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: Is that appropriate and the lead into an election? 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: Look, I think it is. Council's not affiliated with any party. 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: We work to identify projects that are necessary for our community. 80 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: It's something that we have done in the past as well, 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: and we did it with the Liberal Nationals when they 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: announced an election commitment for Great Community Hall. We did 83 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: it with both Labor and the Liberal Nationals when they 84 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: announced funding for Swell as well, and if we've we 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: basically went to both parties and said these are the 86 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 2: projects that we are looking for support. 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: Ye. 88 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: So you know, Leah came to our offices as well 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: and sat with the council and we went through our projects, 90 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: so the office still there for the CLP if they 91 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: wanted to commit to our projects as well, and of 92 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: course I'll stand with Lea when they announce them because 93 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: these are actually council projects, they're not government, so. 94 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't doesn't blur any lines from your perspective. 95 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't think so, because that's part of council's job 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: is to lobby to get support for our community. 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: I guess the way some people might see it is 98 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: that if you are standing side by side with a 99 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: political candidate, no matter whether it's the CLP or the ALP, 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: that you are, you know that you're that you're in 101 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: line with their views and in line with their commitments, 102 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: and that the council is aligned in some way. 103 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 2: Because we've got both men members of the Labor Party 104 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 2: and the CORP on our council. So we just focus 105 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: on what our community needs. And as I mentioned, if 106 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 2: Leah wanted to commit funding to these projects, and I'll 107 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: happily stand with her at these facilities and you know, 108 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: promote that they're supporting our projects as well. 109 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: All right, Athina, I want to move along and ask 110 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: about the parking out in Palmerston. There's been quite a 111 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: bit of discussion about parking in our CBD. People not 112 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: overly happy about the changing over of the parking meters 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: and the fact that they're no longer able to use cash. 114 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: But by the look of it, at this point in time, 115 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: council isn't well, you're not actually charging anyone for parking. 116 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: No, we've had free parking for a number of years 117 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: in our city center. We just asked that people stick 118 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 2: to the time limits, so you know it says two hours, 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: don't stay for more than two hours, because you could 120 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: still get a fine. We have the similar parking machines 121 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 2: that the City of Darwin has currently and you know, 122 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: cash is a nuisance unfortunately, because it adds extra cost 123 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: to people collecting fees and banking them and doing all 124 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: those sorts of transactions. 125 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: So there need to be a phase out of those machines. 126 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: There has to be. Unfortunately, we've been told that they 127 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 2: operate on three G networks, so we'd have to swap 128 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: out at least some of the components in them or 129 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: buy new machines. And they're not cheap. They're about seventy 130 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: thousand dollars permission. 131 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: Machine Geese. 132 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: So next year we'll work on a new parking strategy 133 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: and determine how we're going to move forward in our 134 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 2: city center. 135 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: But it is free, yeah, free at the moment. I 136 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: reckon people like that because then they don't need their 137 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: cash or their card to be able to pay. I 138 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: spite like, the point that keeps getting raised with us 139 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: is people are like, well, cash is still legal tender, 140 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: why can't we use it? But from what I'm hearing 141 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: really from the councils as well, is that it's a 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: pretty expensive exercise to be able to have that cash 143 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: collected from those meters. I guess you kind of it's 144 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: tough to find sort of a happy medium to keep 145 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: people happy. 146 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why, you know, there've been all these 147 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: other new smart ways of doing things like the pace 148 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: day app, so you don't need cash, you can just 149 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: do it that way. And of course in some of 150 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 2: the other jurisdictions they use different types of machines as well, 151 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: so you know, you can just swipe your credit card 152 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: and put your regio in and. 153 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Off you go. 154 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: So I think for us the issue is as well 155 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 2: that they print out tickets, which means that you need 156 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: someone to go and replace a ticket. 157 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: Role as well. Yeah, so they are. 158 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: You know, very labor intensive machines. And you know, we're 159 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: not sure where we're heading yet, but we'll find out 160 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: next year. 161 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Well, we'll keep an ear out for that. Hey, before 162 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 1: I let you go this morning. The lame Way Management policy. 163 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: I know that Council is seeking input on the proposed 164 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: review of Council's laneway management. The review proposes a few 165 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: key highlights. From what I understand, what exactly is that 166 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: review looking at and how soon or how how long 167 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: have people got to be able to have their voices 168 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: heard on that. 169 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: So with the consultations open till the end of the month, 170 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: so the thirty first of July. We've introduced some basically 171 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: classifications for laneways based on an active transport category. So 172 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: these consider things like whether the laneway leads to a school, 173 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: a shop, bus stop, so people with places where people 174 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: need regular access to. And they've been classified into non essential, 175 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: low essential and essential laneways based on their proximity to 176 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: those attracting features like schools, shops, stops. And so there's 177 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: a slightly different way now that we'll be looking at 178 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: progressing applications. We do have about twenty laneways which are 179 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: currently under treatment at the moment, so that's part time 180 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: closures or full time closures or lighting, and that's to 181 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: have fixed up a lot of the communities concerned around 182 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: the laneways. And we're also moving to just review those 183 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: laneways about every four years instead of every year. Moving forward, 184 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: things have settled down quite a lot, but people adjacent 185 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: to the laneways should have been notified in writing that 186 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: the reviews underway. So if you haven't been notified, you 187 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 2: can contact council or jump onto our website and provide 188 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: feedback on the proposed changes to the policy. 189 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: All right, and so they can jump online and do 190 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: that well Athena Pasco Bell, the Mayor of Palmerston. We 191 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: are going to have to leave it there because we've 192 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: got to head across to the national news. Good to 193 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: catch up with you. Thank you, thank you,