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Speaker 1: No Ami Fox is the first ever Olympic champion in

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Speaker 1: the women's kayak cross, and while she comes from a

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Speaker 1: family of paddling royalty, the youngest Fox wasn't always in

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Speaker 1: love with the sport. A self described late bloomer, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't until age fifteen that no Amy found her love

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Speaker 1: for water sports. Growing up alongside her Olympic champion's sister,

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Speaker 1: no Ami kept falling just short of that Olympic quoter,

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Speaker 1: that is, until she found kayak cross and made it

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Speaker 1: her niche. While she only left herself two months to

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Speaker 1: qualify for the Paris Games this year, the journey to

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Speaker 1: get there was certainly worth its weight in gold. My

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Speaker 1: name's Sophie and I'm the producer here at the Female

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Speaker 1: Athlete Project. Chloe caught up with no Amy as she

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Speaker 1: touched down in Australia, gold medal around her neck with

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Speaker 1: the biggest smile you've ever seen. This chat proves that

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Speaker 1: even Olympians and Olympic gold medalists at that struggle with

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Speaker 1: their self confidence. No Ami shows how hard work and

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Speaker 1: determination can pay off, and that sometimes backing yourself can

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Speaker 1: be the biggest challenge. We hope you enjoyed this chat

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Speaker 1: because it was epic and Chloe even got to hold

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Speaker 1: the gold medal.

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Speaker 2: No Amy, welcome to the Female Athlete Project.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: What a dream and honor to be here standing in

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Speaker 4: front of you.

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Speaker 3: Come start listening.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you've had a hectic couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: You were an Olympic gold medalist.

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Speaker 3: I know, crazy like you. And I just noticed we

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Speaker 3: had the same tattoo now tat in Paris. I yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was at the.

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Speaker 4: In the food hall with my friend Jean that does

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Speaker 4: growing and I was like, Jean, we have to do it.

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Speaker 4: We have to get tattoos, and so we went to

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Speaker 4: get them an hour before we had to regroup for

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Speaker 4: the charter flight. Ohyah, I'm glad I did it. And

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Speaker 4: then I just saw you.

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Speaker 3: How to do it. Sounds like matching. That's very cool.

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Speaker 2: I saw was there a tattoo artist in the Olympic.

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Speaker 4: There it was, but he was Yeah, the guy was

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Speaker 4: booked out and I didn't get in fast enough.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but no gold. You didn't even reply to me

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Speaker 3: on Instagram house. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm getting a taste on my own medicine though, because

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Speaker 4: for me, I've been on do not disturb this whole time.

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Speaker 3: I'm overwhelmed.

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Speaker 4: You know, you received so many messages and support, but

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Speaker 4: it's just you just don't know where to start.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, it's full on.

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Speaker 2: I tried to convince my Giants teammates the other day

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Speaker 2: that it was compulsory that if you went to the

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Speaker 2: Olympics you had to get the tattoo.

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Speaker 3: You probably think. So I walked in thinking like, oh no,

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Speaker 3: I won't won't do it. It's a cliche, I won't

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Speaker 3: do it. And then I'm like, it changed me for life.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Olympics was just so huge and like

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Speaker 4: monumental and life changing that you feel like you need

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Speaker 4: to you know, you feel like you need to tell

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Speaker 4: everyone and market and cement it, you know, on your body.

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Speaker 2: So I love that we're going to get to that

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Speaker 2: monumental feeling, but we always start by going back to

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Speaker 2: your childhood. Can you describe yourself as a little kid?

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Speaker 4: Little kid, I'd say quite, like I don't want to

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Speaker 4: say like a showgirl. But I loved, you know, like

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Speaker 4: I always thought I was going to be an actress

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Speaker 4: when I was growing up and definitely so far from

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Speaker 4: that now, but like I loved.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like just Jess and I.

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Speaker 4: We always grew up like next to the bank, so

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Speaker 4: we had a really great childhood. And and i'd always

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Speaker 4: be you know, like running around. I'd definitely be more

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Speaker 3: But I think, you know, bubba wiold, I was a

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to describe it, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: very my mum kept us in line. We did all

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Speaker 4: the different sorts of activities. And you know, half French,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I was just I like I look back at my

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Speaker 3: I'd say they're a bit cheeky, but like cute I was.

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Speaker 2: And when was it that your parents moved.

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Speaker 4: Over in ninety eight or ninety nine, So moved over

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Speaker 4: it was like we loved school. I went to France

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Speaker 4: school in France for a little bit, hated it.

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Speaker 3: Oh it was scary, it was hard.

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Speaker 4: It was like indoor in Australia was just like outdoors.

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Speaker 3: It was fun. The teachers were nice.

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Speaker 4: There was very much there, You're doing great and yeah

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Speaker 2: Wow. And there's been lots of amazing photos of you

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Speaker 2: there's one of you both sitting in a kayak when

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Speaker 2: you were pretty young. He went back, looking relatively unimpressed

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Speaker 4: think unimpressed is probably like a good word to describe kayaking.

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Speaker 4: For me in the early days, it was very much

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Speaker 4: like the things my parents did, and I just felt

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Speaker 4: like I was always getting dragged out, like I don't

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Speaker 4: really know what else I loved doing. Like I did

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Speaker 4: a bit of swimming and mainly swimming and tumbling, but

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Speaker 4: I wasn't like super passionate about those sports. But I

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Speaker 4: A great time, a good but the overall feeling was

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Speaker 2: Anyway, when was the point when you were like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, maybe, I'd say it was twenty twelve when I

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Speaker 4: I did a club trip with my with my granddad's

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Speaker 4: was just what. Yeah, those two moments kind of made

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, how do you start? Do you start

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Speaker 4: Yeah? You start going straight. That's definitely important to learn

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Speaker 3: And then it's a good skill.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's much harder than people think. I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of people think kayaking's easy and then they

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Speaker 4: And it is really hard to go straight initially, and

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Speaker 4: And then you learn how to turn, and then you

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Speaker 4: you know, sweep strokes and draw strokes, and then you

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Speaker 4: very much a building up process in kayaking. It's impossible

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Speaker 3: There's no you can't like just cut to the chase.

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Speaker 4: It's really much about building the foundations and you know,

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Speaker 4: learning unlocking level one, then level two and then level

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Speaker 4: right straight away. And we were, yeah, lucky to have

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Speaker 2: Do you remember your first time?

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Speaker 3: I remember.

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Speaker 4: I remember the first Yeah, the first time I went

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Speaker 4: for me, the marking moment, there's like two marking moments.

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Speaker 4: The deck is like the skirt, a skirt, ack carag

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Speaker 4: I didn't roll, and I didn't pull the tag either

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Speaker 3: Traumatized, put the kayke away, touch it for a year.

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Speaker 4: So that's I think my earliest memory of like moving

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Speaker 4: sometimes glad I eventually got back into it after some time,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, that was enough to turn me off for

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Speaker 4: a while. Yeah, that's I think it was the German

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Speaker 4: I think it was being yelled at in German.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was really it was. It was scary.

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Speaker 2: It's time, so you get back in the boat. When

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, it's I feel like I haven't I

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Speaker 4: What if you know I fail? How embarrassing. There was

440
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 4: all of that sort of internal dialogue, and then you know,

441
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 4: I learned how to kind of use it as a

442
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: strength of a camp. Just here for this, but all

443
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: the training I can do, or the mental prep or

444
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 4: the physical prep, and I'm going to be the hungriest

445
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: person on the start line.

446
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 3: And it was the same for Prague.

447
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,199
Speaker 4: When I got the quota in June, I was just

448
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 4: there for the kite cross, and so for Paris, I

449
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 4: knew that the last three races where I had just

450
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: been there for the Kya cross had gone really well

451
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,400
Speaker 4: and we trained really hard, and I kind of had

452
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 4: come to terms with you know, even if you're just

453
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: here for the Kita cross, that's a strength. It's not embarrassing,

454
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 4: you know, because a lot of the time you do

455
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 4: three categories and you think, okay, Kayake didn't go well,

456
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 4: I've got canoe. You think of them as chances, and

457
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: in Caya cross you're just there for that. There's definitely

458
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 4: an element of what if I'm out straight away, like

459
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 4: how embarrassing for me? What a Olympic campaign? But I was, yeah,

460
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 4: definitely in a mindset of I'm here. What an incredible

461
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: privilege to be here, Like it's been your dream. You

462
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: had such a hard selection process, you prove to yourself

463
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 4: that you know you're worthy because that selection process was

464
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 4: like gladiators, and so the fact I came out on top,

465
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 4: you know, definitely filled me with confidence. And I didn't

466
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: also want to deprive myself of living the Olympic movement,

467
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 4: like I think Tokyo really made us feel all the

468
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 4: emotions when Jess won, and they're the most beautiful emotions

469
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 4: I've ever experienced in life. That for Paris already it

470
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 4: was such a special Olympics. It was magical. And then

471
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 4: when Jess was racing, I didn't want to like detach

472
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 4: myself and think, Okay, focus on your race, you know,

473
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 4: just watch and just clap and.

474
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: Be like yay.

475
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 4: I didn't want to emotionally drain myself like either, but

476
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 4: I definitely did and I got very invested and it

477
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: was magical and I'm glad I did because it was

478
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 4: such a beautiful moment for our sport, for our family,

479
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 4: for Jess. And then she did it again and I

480
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, now I really have to like step

481
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 4: back and relax very selfish.

482
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 2: Actually, I've already stup a lot of electual energy on you.

483
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 4: I recharged well, and I, yeah, I think I'm definitely

484
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 4: someone that is quite.

485
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

486
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 4: I latch onto those like emotional things, you know, I

487
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 4: latch onto those.

488
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

489
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 4: I pull out the emotional heart strings of all the

490
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: Olympic stories and that's what I love the most.

491
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: That's also what fuels me, I.

492
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 4: Think as an athlete, is you know, doing the opening ceremony,

493
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 4: seeing the Eiffel Towers sparkle, and just thinking like seeing

494
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 4: the magic in things. And I definitely, you know, had

495
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 4: to wind down and do my do.

496
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: My box screaming, doing my meditation.

497
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 4: Box screaming, but yeah, I definitely let myself be fueled

498
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 4: by those performances. And you know, Okay, well I want

499
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: to have my moment too, and I'm here and I want,

500
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 4: you know, the crowd to be cheering for me and

501
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 4: for that feeling of crossing the line first. And yeah,

502
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 4: I think I was in such a good mindset of like,

503
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 4: you know, you've done the work. You've just got to

504
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 4: go out there and make it happen, and use all

505
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 4: those performances that you saw as as strength, but also

506
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 4: know that you know there could be disappointment as well.

507
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: I think, you know, you see the one percent of

508
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 3: the Olympic.

509
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 4: Dreams sometimes and the reality is there's a lot of

510
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 4: performances I just don't go to plan because timing it

511
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: to perfection at the Olympic Games under all that pressures.

512
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely really, really hard.

513
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 4: So I was also aware that, you know, it could

514
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: not go to plan, but I just wanted to focus

515
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 4: very much on the process, not the results. And and

516
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 4: I think, you know, even the people that were like

517
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 4: you're next, you know, just as well, now it's your turn.

518
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: You've got it. Like previously, I think it would have

519
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: really impacted me.

520
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: But I was in such a like I'm here, I'm

521
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: ready to be here mindset that I thought, okay, I'll

522
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: use it as confidence, you know, like whatever, like I

523
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: I previously, I think it would have really been like

524
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: a my gosh, like I don't want everyone everyone's looking

525
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: at me. I don't want them to think that I'm

526
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: gonna win, because what if I don't. So yeah, I

527
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 4: did a lot of you know prep to make sure

528
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 4: that I was there to perform, but had that sort

529
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: of you know, armor and protection around to just focus

530
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: on the task and my own motivations really.

531
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: And so it's time to compete. There's a number of rounds.

532
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: There's like, yeah, a lot of rounds. There's a lot

533
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: of rounds. Qualification time, Yeah, the names of the.

534
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: Round My friends were like, I'm confused.

535
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: I was very confusing.

536
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: So there was a time trial, which was two weeks

537
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 4: ago today. Yeah, So it was on Friday, the second

538
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 4: of August, and that was the time trial basically dictates

539
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 4: the ranking, and then the ranking dictates the pools and

540
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: who chooses who has the I already have lame choice.

541
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 3: And so that was on the Friday.

542
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: Normally in a World Cup schedule, we do the time

543
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 4: trial in the evening the next day. All of the

544
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: rounds here it was spread over four days, which was

545
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: very long, and we yeah, that's why we really had

546
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 4: to kind of take every day step by step by step.

547
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: The Saturday was the first round, and the first top

548
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: seven had just.

549
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: Three people in their heats. I was eighth.

550
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 4: And how it works is you have, like, you know,

551
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: one great paddler and then two average paddlers. And if

552
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 4: you're a heat of four, you have two highest strength

553
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: paddlers and the two lowest strength paddlers. And my heat

554
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: was two high ranked paddlers me included, and then two

555
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: very high ranked paddlers that made mistakes and were lower ranked.

556
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 4: So my first heat, when I looked at it, was

557
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: initially like, oh.

558
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 3: My god, why me, Like, no.

559
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm done from the start and yeah, and

560
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: then we had Heat one and then quarterfinal, five final,

561
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 4: so lots of rounds to get through. And yeah, it

562
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: was a big four days of competition.

563
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 2: And you touched on earlier that moment when Jess got

564
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 2: knocked out. Yeah, and when she came over to you

565
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: and gave you a big hut. What was it that

566
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: she said to you in that moment.

567
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: That was a very emotional moment.

568
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 4: She said, Okay, take it all the way, and I knew,

569
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 4: like it was hard seeing her knocked out, and in

570
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 4: my head it was going to be one and two.

571
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: You know, we're both going to make it through.

572
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: And when I exited the last up and I saw

573
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: her do it like a research she missed the up,

574
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: and it was like, initially, oh my god, she's she's

575
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 4: not going to get it. She's not going to come through.

576
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: And as opposed to I'm through, yes, next round, and

577
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: so like compared to all the other rounds where I

578
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: like celebrated here, it was the first reaction was like no,

579
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: like she's she's done. But then you know, quickly, you know,

580
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: had a hug, and then it was like, yeah, I'm

581
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 4: onto the next round.

582
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: Let's go. And and I knew at the end of

583
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 3: the day, you know, she had two corn metals, she'd

584
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 3: be fine.

585
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 4: But it was hard, and it was, you know, again

586
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 4: like a big testament to the how hot the race

587
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: was and how anything can happen. So you just have

588
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: to really stick to your race, get through, try the

589
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: top two, and and yeah, when you're through, you're through.

590
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: You keep charging until the end.

591
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: And then it was quite amazing watching you because like

592
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 2: you talked about kind of being aggressive as soon as

593
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: it starts, like you just were like on a mission.

594
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: It was like it was just you were just made

595
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: for it. You were just so you just looked so

596
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: in the zone and you were just out because some

597
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: people kind of get me, I have no idea that's

598
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: the technique of it. Some people would obviously like get

599
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: a little bit caught up. Yeah, you're kind of just

600
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: like I'm on here.

601
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think so my first round, like I said,

602
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: was very hot, and I was looking on paper and

603
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: I thought, oh gosh, like how am I cursed with

604
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: the hardest heat from the start. But I was talking

605
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: with my team and they're like, well, you know what,

606
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 4: you set the standard straight away for like your tone

607
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: and for the race, whereas everyone might ease into it

608
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: and then call final time.

609
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: They'll be shell shocked.

610
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, it was the best possible

611
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 4: thing that could have happened, because from the start it

612
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: was a battle. And that was one of my hardest races.

613
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: The first round that's meant to be the easiest round

614
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 4: out of everything, and that really set the tone of

615
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: like starting really strong, starting really really hard, and trying

616
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: to get in front and kind of maybe, yeah, shocking

617
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: everyone from the start that it's like I'm out of there,

618
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: And yeah, that was definitely the strategy, and we practiced

619
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 4: really hard to have fast starts and to you know,

620
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 4: when you're on the remp and as soon as it drops,

621
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: like you're out of there and you're just hunting down

622
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: the course.

623
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, I think I'm.

624
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: Really proud of how that turned out, but also knowing

625
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 4: that if you're second or third, the race is.

626
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: Not over and you can hunt down well.

627
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: And yeah, but the starts were an incredible feeling to

628
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: like get out first and then yeah, to hear the

629
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: crowd as well, like just the buzz of the crowd

630
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 4: and then just be charging down the course. It's like

631
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: you're just in this in like a chase or be

632
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 4: chased mindset full of adrenaline, but also like super calm

633
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 4: and focus, Like it's just a weird mindset to be

634
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: and it was so like you're floating, but you're buzzed

635
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: and you're charged, and but you're also alert because everyone's

636
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 4: coming out you left, right, and center. So yeah, really

637
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 4: proud of that sort of like mental I guess state

638
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 4: that I was in. And sometimes I'm like wow, like

639
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: I achieved that. So yeah, it was incredible feeling to

640
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 4: be able to you know, barge through and.

641
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Do that Olympic final. You're sitting there about to start.

642
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: What's going through your head?

643
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 4: Right before the start, my coach was like, Okay, you're here,

644
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: like wow, like it's the Olympic Final.

645
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: Like and before that he's very.

646
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 4: Calm, process driven, So something that definitely helps me because

647
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: I sometimes you know, get distracted or think, oh my god,

648
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 4: I'll make the final like you know, so he very

649
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 4: much you know, grounds me down and we stay very

650
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: process driven, which for kaya cross is super important. But

651
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: then right before the final he had this like like

652
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 4: you're here, and so I was like, yeah, wow, like

653
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: I'm here and and enjoy it. And so when I

654
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 4: was on the start of the ramp up the top,

655
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 4: you know, the crowd was going crazy because there was

656
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 4: a French girl in the final, and I let myself

657
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: kind of.

658
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 3: Just enjoy that and be aware of it and not.

659
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 4: Be like, you know, we were here, Like there was

660
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: that element of very present and aware of what's happening.

661
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: They started playing Abba as well, before.

662
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: They were calling people and off like I was thinking

663
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: about my friends in the stands and how much fun

664
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 4: they were having, and so there was very much like

665
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 4: a you know, I'm so meant to be here, this

666
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: is this is the moment I've been waiting for, Like

667
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: this is incredible. And then obviously you know when they

668
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 4: call your name, it's after they called my name. There

669
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 4: was I guess this just kind of process of okay,

670
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: put your mouth guard in, like head down, like let's

671
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 4: do the race and wait for the other people to

672
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: be called. And then they go in with the like

673
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: boom boom boom book and that gets you, I think

674
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: in that mind frame of we're going yeah.

675
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: And then do you remember going down the course or

676
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: is it I do remember.

677
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 4: It's a bit of a blur, but I think, you know,

678
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 4: I knew I didn't have a good start. Well, I

679
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: had a good start, but Kim Woods from GB she

680
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: got out faster, and I kind of knew that would happen.

681
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: She's one of the strongest puddlers on the circuit. I

682
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: knew she was next to me.

683
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 4: I knew she's very very argie bargie, and I thought,

684
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: if she gets out and I'm just behind her, perfect

685
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 4: I didn't want to get out of the same pace

686
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: as her, because she would have we both would have

687
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 4: lost time. She would have really tried to push me

688
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 4: out of the race. So she got out first. I

689
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: just tracked her down and I knew she'd go left

690
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: because she'd been going left into the upstream the whole race.

691
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: And I also knew that she knew that I might

692
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 4: go right and that she'd probably maybe avoid me.

693
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: And so when I when we set.

694
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 4: Up for the role, it's a good strategic moment to

695
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: like see what's going to happen, Like what angle their

696
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: boat is kind of determines which way they're going to go.

697
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: And I soon as I saw like her body turn left,

698
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 4: I was like, let's go, let's charge, and so yeah,

699
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 4: I turned right and I had a really fast upstream

700
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 4: and that got me right in front of the German

701
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 4: girl who is pretty close to me. And then Kim

702
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 4: got attacked by from France, and so I came out first.

703
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: And you don't hear the crowd. It's like a buzz,

704
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 4: it's just like a white noise. But I ho was

705
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: close to the bank. I was probably like, you know,

706
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 4: three meters from the bank, and I heard I heard

707
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 4: the guttural scream of my mum. And he's just got

708
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 4: a very distinctive voice. You know, you can you can

709
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 4: detect it. And that was like a like, let's go,

710
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 4: I'm out.

711
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: Did she yell something at your show?

712
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: It was just like it was just a scream, like

713
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: it was like a I'm not going to repeat it.

714
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just like, yeah, the gut are

715
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 4: all like, oh my god, like she is in front,

716
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 4: and it was yeah, it was like an impulse really

717
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: and and then Kim.

718
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: Was on my tail like it was.

719
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 4: It was quite disruptive because she was Yeah, she was

720
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 4: pushing it, and so that can easily kind of affect

721
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: your steering because.

722
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: She was pushing it.

723
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 4: I couldn't move, I couldn't get out of the water.

724
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: But I really had that moment from you know, a

725
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 4: couple of gates half the course length where I was leading,

726
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 4: like I was trying to compose myself, Okay, stay in front,

727
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: stay in front, you know, just go through the gates.

728
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 4: And I knew that I had to send the last

729
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,320
Speaker 4: upstream because she'd be chasing me down for the gold.

730
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: She was not going to go to a different one.

731
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: She was going to attack me. I knew that.

732
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: And I think that last up stream is kind of

733
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 4: probably the moment that I'm so proud of in the

734
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: whole Olympic campaign. It's like, you know, when everything builds

735
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: up to that one performance, that one you know, segment

736
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 4: of a race, and to be chased down by Kim

737
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 4: who's one of the most aggressive Adler's reigning world champion,

738
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: and pull off a fast up before she could get

739
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 4: in because she was like, you know, not even she

740
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: was half a boat length distance from me, and I basically, yeah,

741
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 4: I pulled off a fast upstream and she couldn't overtake me.

742
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: And that's the sort of thing you practice really hard

743
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: in training, but to deliver in a race under the

744
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 4: pressure at the end of a course. I didn't do

745
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: it in any of my previous runs, and I hadn't

746
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 4: practiced that up like that. I knew I'd done it

747
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: once or twice in training, but I hadn't delivered it

748
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 4: in a race run. And to yeah, to do that,

749
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 4: it felt like I came out and I was like, ah,

750
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,919
Speaker 4: I want so. Yeah. That was a moment where it

751
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 4: was it's yeah, to deliver that. I think all your

752
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 4: hard work pays off at the right time and you

753
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: you kind of are in disbelief that you managed it

754
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 4: to pull it off when it mattered, and.

755
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 3: So you crossed the line.

756
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: You are the Olympic champion, and your family jumped in

757
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: the water and celebrated with you. What on earth did

758
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: that feel like?

759
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: I'm still kind of it felt like disbelief and shock,

760
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: And I still don't understand how I was so in

761
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: shock and in disbelief, because you know, I look back

762
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 4: at my racing and I won every single round. I

763
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: was like, undefeated, I've paddled the best I've ever paddled,

764
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: and I was so prepared. But it's like I just

765
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 4: didn't believe that I had won, and I was like, no,

766
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 4: surely not, you know. And and so there was, yeah,

767
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 4: a lot of disbelief that it was my moment, and

768
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 4: like what I had just experienced with Jess by the

769
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: kayak the canoe, like I was experiencing that for me

770
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: this time. And yeah, it was a bit of shock

771
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 4: and disbelief and then just crying tears, a lot of tears.

772
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: And it wasn't really until I saw the guys as

773
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: I was being pulled left, right and center, I forgot

774
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 4: there was a men's final after and I see one

775
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 4: of my best friends and I'm like, oh my god,

776
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 4: he's in the final. And then I see him come

777
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: out first and it hit me. I was like, he's won.

778
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 4: And then I ran up to him and I was like,

779
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 4: I want, you want, Like it was, yeah, one of

780
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: those moments where it kind of hit me for the

781
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: first time that yeah, I was Olympic champion.

782
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 3: How amazing. I wanted to read.

783
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 2: I saw an Instagram post of yours the other day

784
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 2: and I wanted to read the caption. And of course

785
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: it's gone away because I left my phone locked for

786
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: too long.

787
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: You said.

788
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: Left Australia in May to head to my Olympic qualification

789
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: race in Europe.

790
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: The dream was to qualify.

791
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Today arrived back home with an Olympic gold medal around

792
00:38:59,040 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 2: my neck.

793
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: It's it's crazy.

794
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: It's yeah, I don't like the way this year has

795
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: turned out. It's just it's it's so amazing, and I

796
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: think like part of me just doesn't believe it's real

797
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 4: because it feels too good to be true. But I

798
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: everything was like it was all planned, you know, there

799
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 4: was a strategy in place.

800
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: We worked so hard for it.

801
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: But I think sometimes when the reward is so big

802
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: for your hard work paying off at the right time.

803
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: It's just too much to like comprehend. But I think

804
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 4: you know, I left Australia and it was very nerve

805
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 4: wracking because already in the lead up to that departure,

806
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: I had to do all of the media stuff as

807
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: if I had qualified, and for me, that was very hard.

808
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: I had to do that, Hi, my name is Naomi

809
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: Fox and I'm an olympiad and I was like, oh

810
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 3: my gosh.

811
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: And I had to do all of those media interviews

812
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: as if I had qualified, and that was quite tax

813
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 4: because and then everyone would be like, you've got this,

814
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: You'll be fine, and I was like, you don't realize

815
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: how hard that qualification race was. And you know, I

816
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: used it as oh, well, they believe in me, that's great,

817
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: But it was really hard. We went overseas having not

818
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: had the best preparation because we didn't have good training conditions,

819
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 4: we didn't have water time, and it was a lot

820
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: of uncertainty. I didn't know what was happening for me

821
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 4: and my year past that qualification date. And then yeah,

822
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: it got to the qualification date and I was so ready.

823
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: I was so excited.

824
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: I think you know, the two weeks leading in, I

825
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 4: was very nervous, but then when the few days came,

826
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: I was more so excited and I was so ready

827
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 4: to I felt like and something that yeah, I haven't

828
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 4: felt in SLOM before, was like, I'm ready to show

829
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 4: off my level, Like I feel like I'm a favorite.

830
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 4: I've worked so hard, like I feel really ready to perform, essentially,

831
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: and it went so well. I was so ready for

832
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: that race. I felt so much like good luck around

833
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 4: me from a lot of people, which also, yeah, really helped.

834
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: And then when I qualified, I wrote down kind of

835
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: everything because I was like, I don't want to feel

836
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: like it's just a fluke, you know, I need to

837
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 4: I'm very much someone that has to like really work

838
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: on the self confidence level, and so I really wrote

839
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 4: down like, Okay, you know the process, everything worked, blah

840
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah, to kind of cement the fact

841
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 4: that you know, when you put your mind to something,

842
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: when you work really hard, like you can achieve that

843
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: because it felt like such a long shot. It really did,

844
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 4: you know, just three spots fifty competitors. World Champion was

845
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 4: their Civiver medalist at the World Championships European Champion, Like,

846
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 4: it was a really tough field and a tough process

847
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 4: in the first ever time that we were going through that,

848
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: So a lot of uncertainty, a lot of Yeah.

849
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: I guess, you know, no one knows how it's going

850
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: to go.

851
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 4: But I really wanted to kind of prove to myself

852
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 4: that it wasn't just luck. You know, that you got

853
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: there based on your own right. You had the hardest

854
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 4: selection process out of everyone you deserve to be that

855
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 4: you deserve to be at the Olympic.

856
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, it's really cool. Just on that self confidence piece.

857
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: Can you touch on that, because I think people see Olympians,

858
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 2: they see Olympic gold medalists in particular, and imagine that

859
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: you kind of just have this armor of being untouchable

860
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: in a way. But the fact that even that close

861
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: to the Olympics you were having to instill self.

862
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 4: Confidence, Yeah, I think it's funny. Like I'm like, I'm

863
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: an Olympic champion now and still I'll be.

864
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if I could do that.

865
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 4: But you know, I think for me, self confidence has

866
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: been so huge and such a big personal project to

867
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 4: work on because obviously I'm not the best I rememer

868
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: back to makes me think of We had the new

869
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 4: South Wels Institute of Sports dinner and there was a

870
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: speech and it's like, you know, you start by being

871
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 4: the best in your house, and then the best in

872
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 4: your stream, and then eventually best in your school, and

873
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 4: then the best in the state and then invest in

874
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: the country.

875
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: And I was like, shoot, I'm still on level one,

876
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: not even for the rest of my family.

877
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that's played a big part because

878
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: obviously there had never been for me before Paris and

879
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 4: Olympic opening, and then I'd never been the best in

880
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: my family and then the.

881
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Best in Australia.

882
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 4: I think when you're world number one in your country,

883
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: that changes everything and with the results comes to the confidence.

884
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 4: And when there was the Olympic opening, yeah, that changed

885
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: a lot. But obviously with uncertainty as well, you kind

886
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 4: of sometimes it's hard to you know, commit and really

887
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: believe in yourself. And so for me have had to

888
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 4: do a lot of work on you know, kind of

889
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: keeping with the facts. Okay, these are my results. These

890
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 4: what brings me confidence. You know, it's knowing that I've

891
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 4: I've practiced really hard. It's knowing that you know, I've

892
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: showcased before, and and you know, sometimes.

893
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: I'd be like, gosh, if there was like one of

894
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: some of the.

895
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: Guys on my team, if they had my results, they'd

896
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 4: be so confident and like, how come I still don't

897
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 4: believe that I can get it, you know? And so

898
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: for the Olympic Games, I went in really kind of

899
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 4: like reflecting on everything I'd done and sticking to, you know,

900
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 4: the facts and really working through that and you know,

901
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 4: taking because the sessions, you know, ninety good, ten percent bad.

902
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: But sometimes you think, oh, I can't do that, but

903
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 4: the reality is, you know you've done you've done it before,

904
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 4: You've done it once, and once is good enough. And

905
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: so yeah, I think for me, what's really helped me

906
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 4: is kind of writing everything down and keeping to the

907
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 4: facts then constantly, you know, reinforcing the good. That's something

908
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 4: that I kind of still have to do and and

909
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: really did in the lead up to the games, and yeah,

910
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: I guess really reinforcing the fact that I deserve to

911
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 4: be there. I think there was definitely a bit of

912
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 4: imposter syndrome, you know, starting entering the team quite late.

913
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: They were doing too. It's like my brain was just

914
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: finding ways to.

915
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: To you know, stay to the imposter syndrome.

916
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: You know, I was just doing one category. Some people

917
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 4: were doing too like you know, so and then I'm yeah,

918
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: I had to do like a lot of positive reinforcement

919
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: to be like no, I had the hardest selection out

920
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: of everyone. I proved that I'm you know, worth being here.

921
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: I've trained so hard, I've won you know, every single heat,

922
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: like you know you can do this. But yeah, for me,

923
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: it's definitely a constant working progress, and I think that

924
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 4: stems from never having been the best in in the

925
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: country or in.

926
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 3: The bloody house. I'm the best in you know, my

927
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: room because I'm.

928
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 4: I don't share a bedroom, but otherwise, but yeah, it's

929
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 4: uh yeah, self confidence, I think for me now hopefully

930
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 4: it will bring a new level. But yeah, I think

931
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 4: a lot of athletes, you know, there's definitely that constant

932
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 4: questioning that comes and with our sport especially, you know,

933
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 4: it's not once you know, it's not like once you

934
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: do a time. You know, you walk in to the

935
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 4: Olympics knowing you should finish, you know, like top three,

936
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 4: you're constantly humbled by the white water in the waves,

937
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: so you have to really work on keeping that self

938
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: confidence and high because you need that to perform. You

939
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: need to believe in yourself above everything. And definitely topped

940
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: up the tank really well to make sure that, you know,

941
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 4: I knew that I could beat everyone. I'd beaten everyone before,

942
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 4: and I think something you know, my mom said was like, well,

943
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 4: there's going to be three people that you know get

944
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 4: that quota, why not you?

945
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: If there's luck, why not for you? You know?

946
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, the heart of the you work, the lucky

947
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 4: you get essentially as well. And that was definitely the

948
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: mindset going in.

949
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: A question I've been asking everyone on the podcast is

950
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: what is your favorite failure?

951
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 4: Quite a lot, I'd say probably the one that I

952
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 4: like you have the one that's like favorite failure for

953
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 4: like to laugh at the favorite failure that's like traumatic

954
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 4: that you're like, oh my god, like you know, rolling

955
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 4: in the middle of a race down a drop and

956
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 4: then coming up and having missed six gates and you're like, oh.

957
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: My god, TV stop, let's stop me.

958
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 4: I think my favorite failure that's like really been like

959
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: a big turning point in my career was the twenty

960
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: twenty one No. Twenty nineteen Junior World Championships Under twenty

961
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 4: three World Championships and I did kayak and canoe and

962
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,479
Speaker 4: in my kayakron I had.

963
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: A beautiful first round.

964
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 4: I came third, and then my boat was underweight and

965
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: I got disqualified and I had to redo a run,

966
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 4: and then I got a fifty second penalty in the

967
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 4: second run, so I was ruled out when I was

968
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 4: a favorite for that event, and that was a big shock.

969
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 4: And then the afternoon was the C one first run.

970
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: Out went up to the start pool of the second

971
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 4: run and uh Slovenian girl. She was like, oh, no, Amy,

972
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: you have not had a good day. And I was like, oh,

973
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 4: I have not had a good day. But you know,

974
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 4: I thought to myself, don't lose an opportunity like it's

975
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 4: It was a lot of like, you know, okay, you've

976
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 4: still got one race.

977
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 3: You know, one race is a new page. And I

978
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: just made it through.

979
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 4: And then I thought, okay, you know what everyone's through tomorrow,

980
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 4: It starts blank, no matter how traumatic your qualification has been.

981
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 4: And I ended up winning a medal, my first, like

982
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 4: I said, my first World Championship medal at that event,

983
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 4: and I think that was a key moment of like,

984
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: no matter how you know exhausted you are. Every single

985
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 4: day is a new opportunity, and that's really the approach

986
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 4: you need in kite cross. It's like every round, no

987
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 4: matter how hard it was to get through, no matter

988
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 4: who you're against, it's a fresh opportunity and you really

989
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 4: have to seize it, leave it behind and take the good,

990
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 4: you know, move on. So I'd say that was probably

991
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: my most marking failure because yeah, that the start of

992
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: that day, big red fail stamped on that sheet, and

993
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: then you know, it was a happy, happy ending for me.

994
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: So a big pinnacle, like light bulb kind of moment.

995
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. To wrap us up.

996
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: Going back to another piece of social content, because I've

997
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: just been loving them. There's a pretty special video that

998
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: you guys shared from twenty four, twenty years ago at

999
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: the Quantus hangar welcoming the Olympic team back home. You

1000
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 2: guys were, how old would you have? Clean?

1001
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: Six?

1002
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:45,439
Speaker 3: Seven? Yeah? Six of seven and seven and just ten?

1003
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 3: Just ten?

1004
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 2: Okay, so ten and seven ish and you've now come

1005
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: back on the Quantus plane with gold medals around each

1006
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: of your next It.

1007
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 3: Was very emotional.

1008
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I could even let myself just and

1009
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 4: I think that's what the magic. That's the magic I

1010
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: see of the Olympics. Like I let myself get fully

1011
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: carried away in those sorts of stories because I was

1012
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 4: so lucky to have kind of lived those Olympic moments

1013
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 4: in two thousand and four and realized how b it was.

1014
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 4: Like Ian thought for me was a god like he

1015
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 4: was the first person that I was like, wow, like

1016
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 4: he's famous, he's so good, kind of like my first

1017
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: celebrity crush. And Adam miss and Grant had happy like

1018
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 4: for me, it was very Swimmer's based, and I had

1019
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: a book of signatures. I was asking for photos like

1020
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 4: we were going around everywhere. We spent hours there until they,

1021
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 4: you know, all left and I still have the signature book.

1022
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 4: I have to dig deep and find it. But we

1023
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 4: filled it up with all the signatures possible. And that's why,

1024
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: when you know, I knew that I could get on

1025
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 4: the chart, I was like, oh my gosh, you have

1026
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 4: to do that.

1027
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: That's such a full circle moment.

1028
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 4: And to walk down the stairs, it's kind of I

1029
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 4: went into self preservation mode of like not cold, but

1030
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 4: I was like, if I don't go into self preservation mode,

1031
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a blobbery.

1032
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 3: So it was very like internally it was very emotional

1033
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 3: and like a full circle moment.

1034
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 4: And then I was like the last one to leave

1035
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 4: because I just couldn't say no to everyone that was

1036
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 4: coming up. I was like, no, let me sign your kangaroo,

1037
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 4: let me sign your you know, your poster, because it

1038
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 4: was just so symbolic and still kind of like hard

1039
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 4: to grasp that, Wow, that's me that you know they're

1040
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 4: asking to get the photos of. That's me that you

1041
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 4: know they're touching my gold medal. So yeah, that was

1042
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 4: such a special pinch me moment. But you know, I

1043
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 4: think another moment was just thinking how lucky we have

1044
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 4: been to have that Olympic movement kind of guide our

1045
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 4: whole lives and you know, inspire us to work hard

1046
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: and to dream big and to think and to hope

1047
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: that yeah, one day that could happen to us, because

1048
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: I think it just sets us up for such a

1049
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 4: beautiful life of obviously hard moments in sport. But then

1050
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 4: when you kind of live those huge moments, you think like, wow,

1051
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 4: I'm then one of the lucky ones, and yes, it's

1052
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 4: so it's so incredible.

1053
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 2: A huge, huge congratulations again, so proud of you, so

1054
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: well deserved, and I was honestly yelling very.

1055
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: Very loud and my television, as.

1056
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 2: Were many many Australians across the country on the other

1057
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: side of the world, and yeah, you just yeah, it's

1058
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: such a huge achievement and we are also incredibly proud

1059
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: of you and thank you so much.

1060
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: Be thank you to you today, Thanks for having me,

1061
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening.

1062
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1063
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,520
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1064
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,560
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1065
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1066
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