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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. Hello,

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Speaker 1: good morning, good afternoon, good evening, whatever time it is

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Speaker 1: when you are listening to Fearlessly Failing today, I want

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Speaker 1: to welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Kassenya Lukitch.

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Speaker 1: Now, we recorded this podcast back in Lockdown. Boss and

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Speaker 1: I were living in Talkie and Cassenya was I think,

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Speaker 1: just out of Sydney Lockdown. And she's an amazing TV presenter.

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Speaker 1: She does all the carpets, writes her own content, does

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Speaker 1: her own hair and makeup and glam.

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Speaker 2: She's pretty unstoppable.

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Speaker 1: But what really surprised me about this chat is that

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Speaker 1: she was really open and vulnerable, not just about her

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Speaker 1: career life, but also her personal life. So I think like,

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Speaker 1: no matter where you are in your life, whether you're

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Speaker 1: more career focused or family focused, you'll probably get something

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Speaker 1: from this because she really touches.

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Speaker 2: On both elements.

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Speaker 1: And for any Jurassic Park nerds out there, get ready,

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Speaker 1: she's got a wonderful celeb story about going onto the

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Speaker 1: set of Jurassic Park in Hawaii. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: give too much else away, Cassenya, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for sharing so much of yourself with me. I really

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Speaker 1: really love this long overdue chat and I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to hang with your in real life and meet that bambino. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the pod, Cassenya, Lukic.

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Speaker 2: I just practiced my last name on you, so I'm

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Speaker 2: praying I did it right.

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Speaker 3: It's so good. It's so good to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: I know, I feel like it's a little catch up.

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Speaker 3: It is a little bit. It's a bit a while

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Speaker 3: since we've caught up. It feels like I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I just feel like this whole year has been a complete.

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Speaker 2: Just whirlwind right well, I don't even know where I

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Speaker 1: It's like it feels like it's going really slow but

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Speaker 1: really fast at the same time. And I reckon the

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Speaker 1: last time that you and I would have seen each other,

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Speaker 1: I reckon I can pinpoint it to the Momon tent

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels it feels it does feel really weird

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Speaker 3: because you know, I'm so and I'm sure you're the same.

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Speaker 3: You're so used to being out and about doing and

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Speaker 4: We're very, very fortunate.

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Speaker 3: But it has been really strange to re shift my

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Speaker 4: Tracksuit pants are a lot more common.

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Speaker 2: I'm wrapped.

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Speaker 1: I wrapped that you're in your trackies. I'm in my

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Speaker 3: Was like, I put a cute tea on and then

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Speaker 1: Then when you got up to get your headphones, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: Is dude, this is good. We want you to be coomfy.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to before I knew.

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Speaker 1: You and before I consumed your all your amazing stuff

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Speaker 1: you've done with E because I was like, I wonder

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Speaker 1: And then from there, how do you jump from you

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Speaker 4: That would be incredible. I auditioned.

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Speaker 3: I think there was like two thousand applicants I auditioned.

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Speaker 3: But when I when I got the ear roll, I

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Speaker 4: I screw it up? Like I messed up.

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Speaker 3: I didn't get it. I didn't get it. I screwed up,

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Speaker 3: and I did screw up. I did screw up. But

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Speaker 1: So it was only a one year contract and initially

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Speaker 2: So did it go from audition process? How like?

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Speaker 3: And then I had like I had Kelly Osborne, and

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Speaker 2: Yes, straight into the deep end, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Angelina, I would have just been and I've

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Speaker 1: seen your list mate, like you have been such a dream.

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Speaker 1: I was saying this beforehand to research because I didn't

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Speaker 1: And it was so wonderful to interview you because you're

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Speaker 1: I'm like, holy mackerel, this girl has covered so much ground.

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Speaker 1: And I guess I've got a few questions, but the

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Speaker 3: Like it was a massive day. But Jeff Goldbloom was

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Speaker 3: He was like, let's sing jazz together. Like I can

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Speaker 3: It's an art form. And say what you will about clothing,

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Speaker 1: I love that you're saying the Aussies are a bit wild,

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Speaker 1: which I think they are. I think I'm going to

444
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Speaker 1: agree with you definitely because we've got this, especially when

445
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Speaker 1: Aussies are can be a little bit boozy when they

446
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Speaker 1: party and have to get shopped up? Yeah, has there

447
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Speaker 1: because you, like I mentioned before, you've been as a

448
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Speaker 1: guest a lot as well, which would be so exciting.

449
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Speaker 1: Is there one that stands out or a red carpet

450
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Speaker 1: moment of yours where you were like, oh yeah, that

451
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Speaker 1: was my favorite kind of little moment where you were

452
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Speaker 1: flocked up in.

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Speaker 2: Something you loved.

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Speaker 1: Because I know you do a lot of your own makeup,

455
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Speaker 1: you kind of I think it feels like that you

456
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Speaker 1: have a big hand to do in the way that

457
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Speaker 1: you're styled like you're you seem really that feels like

458
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Speaker 1: a big part of your process.

459
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Speaker 3: Well very controlling partly Also also it was it was

460
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Speaker 3: out of necessity that I did my own hair and makeup,

461
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: because we didn't have the budget to give me a

462
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Speaker 3: hair and makeup artist every time. I still worked with them,

463
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Speaker 3: particularly for those bigger events, I often would work with

464
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Speaker 3: a hair and makeup artist because it's also just nice

465
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Speaker 3: to have a little bit of extra help. But the

466
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Speaker 3: day to day and a lot of my red carpets

467
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Speaker 3: I was doing myself.

468
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Speaker 4: In terms of like a moment that I really loved.

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Speaker 4: Can I say People's Stoics Awards again, Like I loved

470
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Speaker 4: that dress.

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Speaker 3: I wore this incredible powerles Sebastian dress and I really

472
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Speaker 3: I felt really like beautiful and really Hollywood and I

473
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 3: felt incredible that night, Like really it felt really special.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to find a photo of you in that

475
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to put in the show notes.

476
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Speaker 2: I want to see that outfit.

477
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Speaker 3: It was a It was Parlas Abasha did this Disney collection, yeah,

478
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Speaker 3: which is like two of my favorite things. Yeah, And

479
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: it was on the dress it said it was the

480
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Speaker 3: colors of the wind as in pocahonters, So it was like,

481
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Speaker 3: can you paint with all the colors of the wind?

482
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Speaker 3: And it was just this I really had like a

483
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Speaker 3: cape and there was sequence and I just like I

484
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Speaker 3: was living my Disney fantasy.

485
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Speaker 2: How does it go?

486
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Speaker 1: Being like did you have to go to specific fittings

487
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Speaker 1: for that? Because that's a pretty big and he's an

488
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Speaker 1: Aussie designer, right, he is an Aussi designer.

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Speaker 3: So I work with a stylist, Michael Azelini. He dressed

490
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Speaker 3: me for a lot of the e Red cup big

491
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Speaker 3: e red carpets, looking his arias actors, things like that.

492
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Speaker 3: Wonderful stylers. I worked with him from from day dot

493
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Speaker 3: and he basically would pull items from different designers and

494
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Speaker 3: we would try and see which one fit.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I just had a flashback then you and

496
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Speaker 1: I had the same personal trainer for a little while.

497
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Speaker 2: To remember we'd crossover sometimes.

498
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, he's in LA now, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, I'm still made to them.

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Speaker 1: But I just remember that was another time I was like, oh,

501
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Speaker 1: we did like cross paths.

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Speaker 4: Memory.

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Speaker 2: It just comes to me when we're chatting.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I I think I know the answer to this,

505
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Speaker 1: but I just love hearing people's take on it. I

506
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Speaker 1: have watched you when you've done Red Carpets, and you

507
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: have to know so much about the guests, right, and

508
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: there could be so many guests, is the It all

509
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: comes down to work ethic, right, I imagine you just

510
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: have to work your butt off to learn. Like if

511
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Speaker 1: people are saying nominative actor awards, I imagine you know

512
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Speaker 1: the show what they're nominated for. When that guest comes up,

513
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Speaker 1: then the next guest, you've got to like get rid

514
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Speaker 1: of that information be on.

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Speaker 2: Too the next bit.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not like you've got a clipboard or

517
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Speaker 1: anything with you. You're literally in the moment it's all

518
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Speaker 1: in your brain. You have to work your butt off

519
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Speaker 1: in the lead up to something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so big red carpets would definitely require a lot

521
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Speaker 3: of prep. And again this was a lot to do

522
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Speaker 3: with the fact that we had a small team in

523
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Speaker 3: the US.

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Speaker 4: The guys over there they get producers and they still

525
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Speaker 4: do a lot of their own research.

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Speaker 3: But basically what they do is they get a binder,

527
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Speaker 3: and the binder has every single person that's going to

528
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Speaker 3: be on that red carpet, all of the details that

529
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Speaker 3: are on there. And then when they come up live,

530
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: someone will hold up a little thing and it'll have

531
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Speaker 3: like it'll have you know who it is, what they're in,

532
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Speaker 3: what they're nominated for.

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Speaker 4: We didn't have any of that. I basically had to

534
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Speaker 4: make my own.

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Speaker 3: Binder, so, you know, for something like the actors, I'd

536
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Speaker 3: spend a good, like at least a day or two

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00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: writing out my I would call them red Carpet Bibles,

538
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Speaker 3: and then I'd have to basically really know it, learn it,

539
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Speaker 3: work with it. I would have a producer who would

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00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 3: often often would I would do is I'd print everything

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Speaker 3: out on my little pieces of paper and I had

542
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Speaker 3: just have like little dot point notes. So for example,

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Speaker 3: i'd have Lolaberry, and then i'd have what you're nominated for,

544
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Speaker 3: a couple of key fun facts about you, and then

545
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Speaker 3: maybe what's next for you, like if you've got a

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Speaker 3: project coming up, and that's kind of what I would

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Speaker 3: put in there. And then I see Lolala Berry walking

548
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: down the red carpet, I quickly go, okay, show me

549
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Speaker 3: Lola Barry look at it and go okay, there's she's

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Speaker 3: nominated for X y Z.

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Speaker 4: These are the two things. And then that's in my

552
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Speaker 4: head right before I talk.

553
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Speaker 2: To you, far Rut.

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Speaker 1: That's a skill set, my friend, that's a skill And

555
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Speaker 1: I watched you do this is reminding me of I

556
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Speaker 1: think it was the Red carpet for Peter Rabbit with

557
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Speaker 1: Margot Robbie and straight away you were like, you're back

558
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Speaker 1: in Australia. How does it feel? And you could now

559
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Speaker 1: that you're explaining this process to me, I can almost

560
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: imagine your brain going check list one, check list two,

561
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Speaker 1: check list three, and all at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Making her comfy.

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Speaker 3: Well. And it's also like, so when you're doing red

564
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Speaker 3: carpets with like big, big celebrities like your Hugh Jackoman's

565
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: or your Margot, Robbie's or Chris Ham's whatever, you get

566
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: probably three questions. If you're lucky, you'll get five, but

567
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: basically you'll have under five minutes on a red carpet.

568
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 3: Three to five minutes is usually what you'll get. So

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Speaker 3: I usually have to with my producer we would map

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Speaker 3: out what that package would look like.

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Speaker 4: So we want that package to be.

572
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Speaker 3: Red carpet footage all looking really beautiful. Then we want

573
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Speaker 3: a shot about a little grab about her being back

574
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Speaker 3: in Australia. Then we want to grab about the movie,

575
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Speaker 3: and then we want to grab about.

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Speaker 4: What she's doing next. And so I have those three questions.

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Speaker 3: I have to think about how that comes out in

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Speaker 3: the package and then ask them in that order so

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Speaker 3: that we can kind of stitch them all together and

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Speaker 3: post night.

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Speaker 2: That is hell.

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Speaker 1: It does sound like it forces you, though, which is

583
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Speaker 1: a beautiful gift to have to be your own producer

584
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Speaker 1: as well, like produce your own content, not necessarily on

585
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Speaker 1: the fly, but a little bit on the fly, like

586
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Speaker 1: you may be in the moment.

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Speaker 3: Certainly, as time progressed. In the beginning, I had a

588
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Speaker 3: lot of help producing segments as time progressed, So my

589
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: mentor for the whole time as he was a girl

590
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: called Katherine Mesenberg and who you would have met. She

591
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: was our produce. She was our producer when we did

592
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Speaker 3: our interview at that yoga studio. She is a complete

593
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Speaker 3: angel and still sort of call her for advice even

594
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Speaker 3: though we're not working together anymore. And she basically taught

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Speaker 3: me how to produce my own segments, and as time progressed,

596
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Speaker 3: I would go source the interviews. I would send out emails,

597
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Speaker 3: I would set the up the interview times and.

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Speaker 4: You know, set up the camera, set up the shot.

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Speaker 4: This is what we're going to do it. Let's this

600
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Speaker 4: is what I want it to look like.

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Speaker 3: Here's my questions, and then talk to the editor and say, okay,

602
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Speaker 3: this is kind of how I want it to look,

603
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Speaker 3: and then they'll go and do it and we'll say yeap, yes, no, yes, no.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we had a producer that would do final sign

605
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Speaker 3: off and things like that. But again, and as a

606
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: kind of I had to because we were such a

607
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: small team, I had to be able to produce and

608
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: write and source my own stories. And that's where the

609
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Speaker 3: journalism agree degree certainly came in handy. Like I had

610
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Speaker 3: to do all that, and I really liked doing all that.

611
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Speaker 3: I really liked taking ownership of my work and it

612
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 3: felt like mine.

613
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 4: I wasn't reading a script.

614
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 3: It was my words, my story, and you know it

615
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: felt really I felt really proud of what I achieved.

616
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Speaker 1: How this might feel, This feeling might feel like a

617
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Speaker 1: long way away for you because you have done so much.

618
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Speaker 1: But when you just describe that example of like you know,

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Speaker 1: Margot Robbie or Chris Hammersworth, and you've got to have

620
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Speaker 1: those three things ready to go, you've got to be

621
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Speaker 1: kind of like feeling good, looking good, like in the moment,

622
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Speaker 1: know that you've only got such a tiny chunk of

623
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Speaker 1: time with them to get what you need for your package.

624
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Speaker 1: How on earth do you go with nerves or did

625
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Speaker 1: you kind of that baptism and fire at the start

626
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: kind of knock them out of you?

627
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Speaker 4: I could tell you.

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Speaker 3: Right now there was plenty of times where I flubbed

629
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Speaker 3: my words and you know, verbal diarrhea the wrong thing.

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Speaker 2: And why would heartbeat?

631
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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 2: I would a heartbeat?

633
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Speaker 3: It really is a practice thing. And you know, I

634
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Speaker 3: get people asking me how do I get in front

635
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Speaker 3: of the how do I do presenting? How do I

636
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: do this, and I say, like, you've got to basically

637
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: get out there and do it. And I learned on

638
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: the job, and I was really lucky that I had

639
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 3: support from Did you get nervous, of course, of course

640
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: I got nervous. As things started to progress, I got

641
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: a lot more comfortable with being on a red carpet.

642
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: But you know, I remember one of my first red carpets.

643
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: I rocked up and like Christian sorry, Dicky Wilkins is there,

644
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: and on the other side, and Bishops there, you know,

645
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 3: two of the kind of staples in Ossie entertainment reporting,

646
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: and they're standing next to me, elbowing me for an interview,

647
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 3: like elbowing me to.

648
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: Get the interview next.

649
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: And I was terrified because I looked up to both

650
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 3: of them and really respected them, and I wanted to

651
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: do really well and learned a lot from both of them,

652
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: And indeed other reporters on red carpets and journalists, print

653
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: journalists and all of that. You're kind of learning on

654
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: the job. Well, I certainly did. But yeah, there was

655
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Speaker 3: definitely a lot of times where I felt nervous and

656
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 3: maybe made a silly comment or I think one Arias

657
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: one Arias I was on the Arias carpet and I

658
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: can't think I was interviewing. I can't even remember who

659
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Speaker 3: I was interviewing nowt but it was like a forty

660
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Speaker 3: degree day. I'd been standing in two pm sun in November.

661
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Speaker 4: I was like, I.

662
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: Hadn't eaten all day because I.

663
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Speaker 4: Had gotten up. I was doing research. Then I was

664
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 4: in hair and makeup, and then I was on the.

665
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Carpet for two hours before the carpet opened because press

666
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 3: have to be there early. And I was faint, like

667
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: my brain was not working, and I was like, hey,

668
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 3: everyone here, we are on the Logi's red carpet just

669
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: goes this is the Arias. I was like, oh my god,

670
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: oh oh, you know, I'm exhausted. Yea, all the degrees

671
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 3: out here and my brain is completely fried. And then

672
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: you move on like, ah.

673
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: Amazing, so embarrassing, so good though, so good.

674
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 3: You heard that cringe at those homents. There's actually quite

675
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: a few of them, you know, where I've accidentally asked

676
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: someone how their show's going and the show got canceled

677
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: the month before, and I'm just like, so so sometimes

678
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: you screw up because it's so much stuff.

679
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: There's so much information that.

680
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 3: You need to have in your brain, particularly for those

681
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: big red carpets, that you're bound to have a stuff up.

682
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: Fortunately that wasn't live, so not everyone saw that, so

683
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 3: that one I got very lucky there.

684
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: But it's so nice that you share that because I

685
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: think that people see the end product, the success, and

686
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: it's so nice to know there's little trip ups on

687
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: the way and we all stuff up. So I'm glad

688
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: that you just humanized yourself a little bit because it's

689
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: so nice. It just gives other people that might have

690
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: a dreamline there's a bit of hope to be like, yeah,

691
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: it's okay to stuff up.

692
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: Every now and then.

693
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: You know, my first year was like such a blur.

694
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: I mean I was working so much and I was

695
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: so eager to please the bosses because it wasn't just

696
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 3: the Australian bosses I had to impress, it was the

697
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: US as well because they were uncertain about me initially.

698
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 3: So I basically spent the entire first year of my

699
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: rolety proving myself and I was called in every other

700
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 3: week you need to work on this.

701
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: Your voice is too high.

702
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 3: You need to bring that down.

703
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 4: You need to work on You'll ask the way you

704
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: ask questions you need to.

705
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 3: Like I got a lot of feedback constantly.

706
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: That's a young age should be getting that kind of

707
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: feedback too.

708
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was. I did voice coach. I

709
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 4: did voice coach.

710
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: I had like media training, multiple like tests, like I'd

711
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 3: go sit back and I'd watch myself and my producer.

712
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 4: Would sit next to me and go, see what you

713
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 4: did there?

714
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: We need to try and do it, like ask your

715
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: question like this, Like it was definitely a really and

716
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: I got so I was working so much and I

717
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: was so so.

718
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 4: Amped up that like I think in that first year, I.

719
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 3: Had laryngitis a flu, and then I got shingles because

720
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: I was working so much and I was so just

721
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: eager to please and do the right thing and get

722
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 3: it right. So, I mean that first year was absolutely

723
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: a grind, and you know, I wasn't sure if I

724
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 3: was going to get a renewal.

725
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: It was like up in the air.

726
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 3: It was like you could get you could get it.

727
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: We'll see how you go.

728
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Did you learn a lot though from that moment of like, yes,

729
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: you exhausted yourself, but it sounds like you also really

730
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: stretched yourself and really like built and built on your

731
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: skill set so that you would get to the end

732
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: of that first.

733
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: Year and go, you know what, I threw everything at that.

734
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 4: And I did.

735
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 3: Look, I'm really proud of myself for what I did

736
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: in that year because I worked my ass off and really.

737
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 4: Was out to prove myself.

738
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: And you know, at the end of the year, when

739
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 3: you get the call and they say, yeah, we're going

740
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: to renew your contract, we'd like you to stay on

741
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: if this is now a three year contract or a

742
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 3: four year contract, so you've gotten past that first hurt.

743
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, everyone in LA loves.

744
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: You now wow, and you go, yeah.

745
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Really, you know it was it was worth it, and

746
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 3: I really made it my I took that job very,

747
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 3: very personally, and everything I did at that at the

748
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 3: network was.

749
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 4: I put every single piece of me into it and

750
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 4: so much work into it because I loved it.

751
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: That's why we do it, though, right, because we love it.

752
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: Another part of your career is kind of like the

753
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: m seeing of events, and you've done some incredible events

754
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: with some incredible celebrities. I imagine it's kind of like

755
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: you have to put a different hat on again for

756
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: that though, because obviously you need to know the content,

757
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: but you've also got to make sure whatever or whoever

758
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: you're launching or helping to launch, say was it.

759
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Did you do something with the Kendall and Kylie collection?

760
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 3: I did. I did when they did forever knew what

761
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: they did, a collaboration with them, So I hosted them

762
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 3: at an event and then also out at Westfield in Parramatta,

763
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: which was absolutely chaofs. And then like I hosted Drew

764
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: Barrymore when she came out here, she did Flower Beauty

765
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: and she awesome. Oh my god, I love that woman.

766
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been relatable, isn't she.

767
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: She's a ray of light, a ray of light, such

768
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 3: a beautiful person.

769
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: And then Gigi. You've had some time with Gigi as well.

770
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: Gigi. I just hosted an event with her for Gucci. Sorry,

771
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 3: not Gucci, guess I'm trying to think of the other one.

772
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: So is it a different skill set though, because you're

773
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: kind of like holding the space, you know, for the audience, and.

774
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 3: You've got to make sure that the audience are engaged.

775
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 3: And I mean a lot of these times, I'm sure

776
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: you know, when you get an MC at an event,

777
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: sometimes you kind of tune out, you're not really listening.

778
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: So it's like about capturing an audience and making sure

779
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 3: that they are paying attention.

780
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you want your you want your talent to

781
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: be really comfortable too, That's the other thing. And I

782
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: think you touched on it earlier, like and you shared.

783
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: Like the positive side of talents.

784
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: Being quirky, but sometimes there's talent that are prickly as well,

785
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: and you've got to then somehow manage that so that

786
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: they soften.

787
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I mean it's it's definitely.

788
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 3: I have been lucky.

789
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: I haven't had too.

790
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: Many people that I've been like, oh my god, that

791
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: person was a nightmare to work with. Most of the

792
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: people I've been able to get some kind of little

793
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: nugget or magic out of. And then of course there's

794
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: times where I've done not in hosted events, I haven't

795
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 3: had this happen, but junkets and stuff like that where

796
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: I've had not so great experiences with celebrities, probably because

797
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 3: they were tired, or they were bored, or they were

798
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 3: just over it, which I totally get.

799
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally get human. Yeah, totally get it.

800
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: You've interviewed, like we said, at the art so I've

801
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: got like a list here, and I'm like Miranda Kirk,

802
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: Chris Hamsworth, Margot Robbie, Tom Cruise, Russell Crowe, Chris Pratt,

803
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: El mcphirst and Nicole Kidman, Hugh Jackman, Victoria Beckham justin

804
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: t him. But like, like there is so Hailey b

805
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: But like there's so so many And I even feel

806
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: weird asking this because you've done so much. Is there

807
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: anybody that's like on your bucket list to be like,

808
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: I'd love to interview them.

809
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 3: I think I feel like I've had a really good run.

810
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: There's definitely some people that I would really still love

811
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 3: to chat to. I mean, Oprah would be pretty cool.

812
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 3: I mean I know that that's probably quite clean.

813
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: Do you know I met her? Yes, fur seconds for seconds.

814
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 3: But then sometimes like and then you think about someone

815
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: like Beyonce, But then I'm like, you know what, I

816
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: don't want to ruin that. I like the glissele, the

817
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: nice shiny lens over Beyonced.

818
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: I don't need to meet Beyonce.

819
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: We could just keep hers like up above everybody else.

820
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: But you know, a lot of the actors that I

821
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 3: really admire, Like I really loved like Lively and I

822
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: love Ryan Reynolds, I'd love to interview them.

823
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: They are like relationship goals right now.

824
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 3: I just can you adopt me? I love you? You

825
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: know Chrissy Teagan, I love I think she's really fun.

826
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, there's still definitely people that I would

827
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 3: love to love to talk to.

828
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: And I know, I it's time for congratulations because there's

829
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bembino on the way for you, my friend.

830
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: There is. We have a little nugget, A little nugget

831
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: in the oven?

832
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: Has that been the nickname I made it?

833
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, A little bean, a little one.

834
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: Oh, just it's it's the best thing to happen in

835
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 3: a year that has been completely not what I thought

836
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: it would.

837
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: Be, totally And you mentioned in your post when you

838
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: announced on Instagram that it's been quite a long journey

839
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: to get to it.

840
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 4: Has it has?

841
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 3: It took us almost two years to have the pub

842
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: still really raw, and I get still get like a

843
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 3: little bit emotional about it because.

844
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 4: It's like such it was such a full on, sorry.

845
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: Such a full on like part of my life. And

846
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm so so grateful that we have this little one.

847
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: It's like the one thing I've been waiting for for

848
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 3: so long, so to see that heartbeat and to know

849
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: that Bob's growing is like the best thing ever, the

850
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,240
Speaker 3: best thing ever.

851
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 2: And I imagine it's hard.

852
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Well, no, I want to say thank you for sharing,

853
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: because I know, I imagine that would have been hard

854
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: to share. But I also know that a lot of

855
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: women suffer in silence in the lead up or in

856
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 1: a bid to become mums and pregnant. And I personally

857
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: have got quite a number of friends that have had

858
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: miscarriages and had a really rough dRIT to falling pregnant.

859
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: So by you sharing that, you know someone might have

860
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: needed to hear that. So I just want to say

861
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: thank you.

862
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I want to share it more in depth

863
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: at some point in terms of you know, what we

864
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: really went through. I'm not ready just yet because it

865
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: feels so raw still. But I really wanted to at

866
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: least touch on it when I announced it, because I know,

867
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 3: for me, when I saw people announcing their pregnancies and

868
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 3: it just felt like to me that people just like

869
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 3: you know, they look at each other and they fall pregnant,

870
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: and it felt I felt so broken and worthless and

871
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: all I wanted was that baby, and so to be

872
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: able to I just wanted to be able to make

873
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: make sure people knew that this wasn't easy for us.

874
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: And it's freaking amazing that you can share that because

875
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: that will mean so so much to I even know

876
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: so many of my friends will be like ah, like

877
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: And I think the more that people share just takes

878
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: away the stigma of I think, like we were talking

879
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: about career earlier, and all the hard work that goes

880
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. I think in so many ways,

881
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: deciding to have a bambino isn't just deciding to have

882
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Speaker 1: a bambino. I think that there can be a lot

883
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Speaker 1: of hard work and a lot of failed to tamps

884
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: until you do get that magical moment. So yeah, I

885
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Speaker 1: really say thank you for sharing that.

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Speaker 3: No, No, I do want to and I would love

887
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: to go into it deeper, and I'm working on writing

888
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: something to share with people, and I'm just sort of

889
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: working on it, trying to get my head together and

890
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: get it all out. But it's it was. It was

891
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 3: full on. It was full on. That's like it was heartbreaking.

892
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 4: It was up, it was down, like.

893
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: It was a perpetual cycle of hope and heartache. And

894
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: I don't wish it on anybody. But it happens a lot,

895
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: and whether you're you know, trying for a year, five years,

896
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: ten years, whatever it is, it's a lot. It's a

897
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: very emotional journey for women and men, any couple that

898
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: is trying to have a family. But yeah, so I'm

899
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: so grateful. I really am, like where over the moon

900
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: at the moment. And to be able to share that

901
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: news over the weekend was.

902
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 4: Pretty special.

903
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: And soak it up, my friend, soak ugh at all

904
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Speaker 2: the magic that comes.

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Speaker 3: I know. Well, I'm like, I'm only starting to get

906
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: over the nausea, Like I'm still exhausted and extremely emotional.

907
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: That's good, That's that's part of And I think sharing

908
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: what's real, man, Like, that's what I really like about

909
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: what you've just done. You've just you've shared what's real,

910
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: and that's what people find solace in, I believe. So

911
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: you're freaking amazing dude. So I know we're in bambino

912
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: mode right now. Yes, But and we touched on like

913
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Speaker 1: what would be that dream guest, And I agree with

914
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: you the way you said, like let's leave Beyonce.

915
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: You know some things touched.

916
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: They say you should never meet your hero, they say

917
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: you should never meet that one person that kind of

918
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: really ignites you in.

919
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: That heroic way. So I completely understand that.

920
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 1: But say we did look into a crystal ball, like,

921
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: is there a dream gig or something that you'd love

922
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: to do down the track?

923
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: Would it be like no?

924
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like for me, I'm like, I see you doing

925
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: so much stuff, and I think the cool thing about

926
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: you when I listened to a.

927
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Speaker 2: Podcast with you.

928
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: Just last week when you said you jump on this

929
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,439
Speaker 1: pod about beauty beauty care, and I was like, man,

930
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: this chick knows so much about beauty. You know so

931
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: much about fashion entertainment. I feel like you could almost

932
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: I think you go in any direction and you would

933
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: land on your feet. Is there any kind of like

934
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: dream thing in the future that you're really excited to

935
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: maybe explore.

936
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Speaker 2: I know that's a really heavy question.

937
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Speaker 3: But it's not.

938
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Speaker 4: It's not.

939
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Speaker 3: I I have kind of always said I like to

940
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: have my fingers in as many pies as possible, Like

941
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: give me a little bit of radio, give me some TV,

942
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: give me some travel, give me some beauty, and like

943
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: I'm like producing my own you know, making my own

944
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 3: hair and makeup beauty videos, which is just really fun

945
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 3: at the moment, you know, give me those interviews. I

946
00:48:55,640 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 3: love interviewing people. I'd love to do get back into that.

947
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Speaker 3: I'd love to do because obviously this year has been

948
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 3: like yeah, I mean it's dead. Yeah, So I'd love

949
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 3: to just get my fingers into as many little pies

950
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Speaker 3: as possible. Because how wonderful that I can do all

951
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: these different things and really love it and enjoy it.

952
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, I hope, I hope that there's lots of

953
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 3: different things. I'm open to anything. Like if something comes

954
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 3: to me and they say, why don't you try a

955
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: random thing, I'm pretty happy to give it a go.

956
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: I'm open to so many different things because like planning

957
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 3: is very difficult.

958
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Speaker 2: No, that's good to be open.

959
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the that can be our mantra of this

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Speaker 1: pod this episode. I think staying open as a creative

961
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Speaker 1: is so important and that's the perfect way to look

962
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Speaker 1: into your future. My friend, it has been a total

963
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Speaker 1: to have you on this pod. I'm going to put

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Speaker 1: in the show notes all the links to you instapage

965
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Speaker 1: and places we can find you. And I noticed there

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Speaker 1: some lovely igtvs for.

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Speaker 2: Donuts as well. I've seen on your Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Yes, my serbian donuts my bubber's croff there. I've been

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Speaker 3: really getting into the Serbian cooking over ISO.

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Speaker 1: You know your ISO highlights are wonderful on your mista, Cassanya,

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Speaker 1: thank you so so much for sharing so much of yourself.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to cross paths of you again in

973
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Speaker 1: real life next time hopefully. And yeah, you've been a joy,

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Speaker 1: so thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Lolas always it's a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Yamo lollaberry.

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