WEBVTT - Business Class Flights With A Side Of Hawaiian Coffee

0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken.

0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.040
<v Speaker 2>It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture

0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:12.280
<v Speaker 2>news twice a week. I'm Sophie Torber and coming up

0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:17.159
<v Speaker 2>on today's show, Sarah's Day's Sunburn Strategy, the latest on

0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.360
<v Speaker 2>the Taylor Swift terror plot, and Ella and Don pull

0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the pin on their controversial podcast. But First, Sammy Robinson

0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:28.200
<v Speaker 2>has been spotted in the arms of another man. Now.

0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Back in May, Sammy appeared to soft launch Sammy Wilkes

0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.920
<v Speaker 2>in her video, who is a singer and American internet

0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:39.080
<v Speaker 2>personality who has over one point six million followers. Now,

0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.160
<v Speaker 2>whilst we didn't see his face in this book bunk video,

0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.920
<v Speaker 2>his voice and arm did appear in it, and he

0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:48.680
<v Speaker 2>was spotted wearing a bracelet with the initials sw.

0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Now, it wasn't long.

0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.360
<v Speaker 2>Before Super Slou's Put the Clues Together found out his

0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.920
<v Speaker 2>name and it was posted all over gossip sites. Now,

0:00:57.000 --> 0:01:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Sammy Wilkes lives in LA but Sammy has been spending

0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.720
<v Speaker 2>a fair bit of time there this year as she

0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.360
<v Speaker 2>grows one mile in the US. This is so confusing

0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Sammy and Sammy. I've always wondered if people get put

0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:12.800
<v Speaker 2>off from dating a person with a similar.

0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:13.640
<v Speaker 1>Or with the same name.

0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like Sophie Kasha and Sophie vander Hoovel. Surely

0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.080
<v Speaker 2>becomes a problem at some point. Now, over the weekend,

0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.479
<v Speaker 2>our inbox was inundated with listeners sending through an Instagram

0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.360
<v Speaker 2>story of Sammy leaping into the arms of another man

0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and appearing.

0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:31.080
<v Speaker 1>To kiss him.

0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.679
<v Speaker 2>Now, for those who haven't seen it, I have to say,

0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I am not convinced that this was a genuine kiss

0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.399
<v Speaker 2>because you saw her head and hair fling over him,

0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.480
<v Speaker 2>but you didn't actually see their lips touching, And there

0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:47.320
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of laughter after it. It seemed maybe

0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.000
<v Speaker 2>like a joke. What say, you're saying that they're just friends.

0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I think that they might just be friends because they

0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:56.160
<v Speaker 2>were hanging out after the City to surf, which they

0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:58.840
<v Speaker 2>both competed in with a number of friends. Now, this

0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.040
<v Speaker 2>guy is called Camera Carter, and he is the director

0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:04.680
<v Speaker 2>of a company called mister Sea, which appears to be

0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.480
<v Speaker 2>a marketing company, and on his Instagram account he mostly

0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.480
<v Speaker 2>posts about his work, and he posted a photo of

0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Sammy in June at fashion Week and she sent little

0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.360
<v Speaker 2>love hearts back to him, and he often shares fashion

0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.960
<v Speaker 2>photos of other celebrities wearing his client's clothes. So I

0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.760
<v Speaker 2>think that they're friends through business and work, and I

0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.959
<v Speaker 2>think that they're perhaps having a bit of a laugh

0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:31.160
<v Speaker 2>to either make someone jealous or attract attention. Yeah, it's

0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.600
<v Speaker 2>an interesting move because they would know there's going to

0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.160
<v Speaker 2>be so much speculation online, especially when they're sharing videos

0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.640
<v Speaker 2>of what appears to be them kissing. It comes at

0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:43.679
<v Speaker 2>an interesting time because over the weekend, Influencer Updates reported

0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that Sammy had unfollowed a guy called Sean Stevenson. Now

0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.720
<v Speaker 2>he is a New Zealand rugby player who she was

0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.880
<v Speaker 2>rumored to be dating previously, so she seems to be

0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.239
<v Speaker 2>getting rid of a bit of dead wood. She might

0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.560
<v Speaker 2>be entering her single girl era. As much as I

0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>hate using that term, hot girl.

0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Summer on the horizon was.

0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.720
<v Speaker 3>A hat and sunnies for me and honestly hide me

0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.760
<v Speaker 3>from the world until I can just lay in the sun.

0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Fitness influencer Sarah's Day has caused a stir whilst holidaying

0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:15.600
<v Speaker 2>in Hawaii with her family. Despite spending an estimated forty

0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:19.400
<v Speaker 2>eight thousand dollars to fly her family of four business class,

0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.600
<v Speaker 2>the Divisive influencer spent the first day of her trip,

0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.639
<v Speaker 2>complaining about the price.

0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Of a Hawaiian coffee.

0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.280
<v Speaker 2>She also used a severe sunburn as an opportunity to

0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:34.040
<v Speaker 2>sell skincare Sophie Sarah wasn't overly impressed with her experience

0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.160
<v Speaker 2>with Quantus Business Class. No, I don't think the Quantus

0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.640
<v Speaker 2>team would have been overly wrapped with the content that.

0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.040
<v Speaker 1>She produced because she shared a real.

0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Detailing her experience flying Quantus Business Class with her husband

0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Kurt and their two kids, and they flew directly from

0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:52.360
<v Speaker 2>Sydney to Hawaii, which was a ten hour flight overnight.

0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Now this content is becoming quite popular on TikTok. I

0:03:55.800 --> 0:04:00.400
<v Speaker 2>recently saw beck Lomaz sharing about her experience flying first

0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.760
<v Speaker 2>class to the UK, and I love this whole fly

0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:05.960
<v Speaker 2>on the wall look at how the other half live,

0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.440
<v Speaker 2>because it is like another world up there. There are

0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.960
<v Speaker 2>lie down beds, there's restaurant quality food, and the amount

0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:16.000
<v Speaker 2>of space that you personally get is just obscene compared

0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.520
<v Speaker 2>to what people get in cattle class. There is a

0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:22.159
<v Speaker 2>big market for these reviews on aeroplane food. I've seen

0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.600
<v Speaker 2>them all over TikTok and I love watching them. Even

0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:27.560
<v Speaker 2>my seventeen year old dad will sit down on YouTube

0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:29.479
<v Speaker 2>and watch food reviews. Well, this is what I think

0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Sarah was going for, because in this reel she included

0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:36.120
<v Speaker 2>shots of her eating her entree and mane. But then

0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.920
<v Speaker 2>she said she decided not to give a review.

0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Here's what she said.

0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:42.800
<v Speaker 3>Now, this was a night flat and we were flying business.

0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.200
<v Speaker 3>I was honestly really looking forward to the food. But

0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be a downer, because usually I

0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.680
<v Speaker 3>will rave about these meals, but tonight I'm not even

0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.599
<v Speaker 3>going to give it a rating because I will genuinely.

0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Just be so savage.

0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.760
<v Speaker 3>Let's just say it didn't hit the mark for me.

0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.920
<v Speaker 2>For reference, she had ordered a pump can soup with

0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:04.440
<v Speaker 2>bread for entree and what looked like a bad tie

0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.599
<v Speaker 2>with lots of chicken for Maine. To me, whose only

0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.880
<v Speaker 2>experienced cattle class, the food looked pretty nice. I'm disappointed

0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.080
<v Speaker 2>that Sarah didn't go there, because I actually enjoy a

0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.600
<v Speaker 2>savage food review. I used to listen to Sam Magnan's

0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.240
<v Speaker 2>podcast literally Nobody Cares, and he is an avid first

0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.240
<v Speaker 2>class or business class flyer, and he would go into

0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.960
<v Speaker 2>the most hilarious detail about how shit some of these

0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:28.960
<v Speaker 2>meals actually were.

0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.479
<v Speaker 1>But it was all a bit of tongue in cheat.

0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that sort of review would have hit

0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:36.080
<v Speaker 2>the mark with Sarah's followers, though, because we're in such

0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.239
<v Speaker 2>a tough economic crisis, the optics of complaining about flying

0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.960
<v Speaker 2>business class with your family of four whilst people can't

0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.960
<v Speaker 2>even afford to go on a holiday doesn't look good.

0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I get all of that, but I don't understand then

0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:48.080
<v Speaker 2>why she shared anything about it. Well, I think it

0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.040
<v Speaker 2>sounded like the taste of the food wasn't her only problem.

0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.560
<v Speaker 2>It was also the time that the food was served.

0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.839
<v Speaker 2>So the entree was served at nine thirty pm, mains

0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.880
<v Speaker 2>came out at eleven thirty pm, and breakfast was at

0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.320
<v Speaker 2>three am. And she explained that because of these times,

0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.719
<v Speaker 2>it was very difficult to get her son Malachi down

0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.680
<v Speaker 2>to sleep. It must be so tough traveling with kids.

0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't have kids, but now that we've got a nephew,

0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, everything is ten times harder when Kate brings

0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:13.960
<v Speaker 2>him out.

0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:17.320
<v Speaker 1>But can you imagine how much more difficult it is.

0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.839
<v Speaker 2>To get your kids to sleep in cattle class when

0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.280
<v Speaker 2>you don't have a bed and an individual spot for them. Well,

0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Sarah seems to have a thing with complaining about flights

0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.200
<v Speaker 2>to Hawaii, because she caused a lot of controversy a

0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.680
<v Speaker 2>few years ago when she flew Hawaiian Airlines and there

0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.360
<v Speaker 2>was a delay with her flight, and she bad mouth

0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.680
<v Speaker 2>the airlines so much she had her followers reaching out

0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.880
<v Speaker 2>to the company to complain. That's probably why she didn't

0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.440
<v Speaker 2>fly Hawaiian again. Maybe they wouldn't have her on board.

0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.200
<v Speaker 2>It's funny because she didn't actually point out that she

0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:48.200
<v Speaker 2>was flying Quantus in the video, but she did this

0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:52.000
<v Speaker 2>skincare routine in the bathroom, which says just how big

0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.120
<v Speaker 2>the first class and business class bathroom must be that

0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.320
<v Speaker 2>you'd want to be in there for longer than two seconds,

0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:00.159
<v Speaker 2>And she pulled on the iconic Quantus pajama, so it

0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.520
<v Speaker 2>was quite clear who she was flying with. She was

0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.120
<v Speaker 2>quite mindful to point out that she's heavily pregnant, and

0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.560
<v Speaker 2>she was very grateful for the lie down bed, but

0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:09.880
<v Speaker 2>she then said that she didn't get a wink of sleep,

0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.800
<v Speaker 2>so it was an interesting review. Now, this video was

0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:19.080
<v Speaker 2>juxtapositioned with Sarah then complaining about the cost of expensive

0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:20.400
<v Speaker 2>coffee in Hawaii.

0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Here's what she said.

0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:27.960
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately for us, the Australian dollar. H like a coffee

0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.760
<v Speaker 3>here is like a normal coffee price. Let's say we

0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.239
<v Speaker 3>would get a six dollar coffee. We're paying like, oh,

0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:35.960
<v Speaker 3>we're paying like ten dollars a coffee because when we

0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.840
<v Speaker 3>transferred our money for every dollar we transferred, we got

0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.600
<v Speaker 3>like sixty cents stub.

0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I've noticed this a lot with some influences, where they'll

0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:47.520
<v Speaker 2>drop all of this money on one thing, but then

0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.960
<v Speaker 2>cry poor or pretend that they're so relatable by complaining

0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.800
<v Speaker 2>about an everyday item like.

0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:53.800
<v Speaker 1>The cost of a coffee.

0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.040
<v Speaker 2>It's their way to have a relatable moment with their followers,

0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.400
<v Speaker 2>because the majority of the population loves to complain about

0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.440
<v Speaker 2>coffee and how overpriced it is. But it didn't really

0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.760
<v Speaker 2>land well, seeing as we've just seen her drop an

0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.560
<v Speaker 2>excessive amount of money on flying business class with a

0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.640
<v Speaker 2>family of four, just to point out how expensive these

0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.480
<v Speaker 2>tickets are. I search quantas at this time of year,

0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.640
<v Speaker 2>and one business class ticket to Hawaii from Sydney costs

0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.840
<v Speaker 2>six thousand dollars. So to fly business class return for

0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:25.320
<v Speaker 2>a family of four that works out to forty eight

0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.119
<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars, and that is before you've then spent money

0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:32.200
<v Speaker 2>on accommodation and expensive coffees. I wonder if this trip

0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.680
<v Speaker 2>could be considered a tax deeduction for Sarah because she

0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.040
<v Speaker 2>is filming her content over there.

0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, surely not.

0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I think that that would be a bit of an

0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.600
<v Speaker 2>over exaggeration. Yeah, but so many influencers would do it

0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.360
<v Speaker 2>because they are actually doing their job overseas.

0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.520
<v Speaker 1>She might be able to actually get.

0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:52.800
<v Speaker 2>Some form of tax reduction for half the trip for example. Well,

0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.440
<v Speaker 2>a follower did point out the irony of her coffee complaints, saying,

0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it's slightly funny to spend that much money on flights

0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.880
<v Speaker 2>but complain about the ten dollar coffee in Hawaii. I'm

0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.520
<v Speaker 2>sure that person was swiftly deleted. Well no, so the

0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.439
<v Speaker 2>comment got one hundred and two likes, and Sarah replied

0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.320
<v Speaker 2>with a laughing face, saying, it's the principal and what

0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting for money, it makes sense in my mind.

0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I think the irony of this comment was further backed

0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.200
<v Speaker 2>up by the fact that they are staying at this

0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.280
<v Speaker 2>luxurious ocean front villa.

0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.439
<v Speaker 1>This place looked absolutely insane.

0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.920
<v Speaker 2>You walk out the front and it's literally got the

0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.960
<v Speaker 2>grass which leads you down to the beach. I would

0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.920
<v Speaker 2>hate to think how much this goes. I mean, the

0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.040
<v Speaker 2>whole thing is it's her money and she can spend

0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:33.000
<v Speaker 2>it however she likes. But I think it just looks

0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.599
<v Speaker 2>a bit disingenuous when you're complaining about the cost of

0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.960
<v Speaker 2>a coffee and then you're staying at this kind of accommodation. Yeah,

0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.280
<v Speaker 2>it was quite interesting because at the end of Sarah's

0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.760
<v Speaker 2>video about Quantus, she finished by saying this.

0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I looked disgusting.

0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:49.640
<v Speaker 3>So it was a hat and sunnies for me, and

0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:51.679
<v Speaker 3>honestly hide me from the world until I can just

0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:52.600
<v Speaker 3>lay in the sun.

0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.000
<v Speaker 2>And Sarah really didn't waste time spending her first day

0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.439
<v Speaker 2>of the holiday lying in the sun in a bikini

0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.439
<v Speaker 2>with no sun cream on. So the next day, probably

0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.360
<v Speaker 2>realizing it would be impossible to hide this burn as

0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:07.640
<v Speaker 2>she was red raw all over her pregnant belly and chest,

0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.880
<v Speaker 2>she addressed her on her stories, writing I've been so

0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.679
<v Speaker 2>diligent in my adult years, but wow, I messed up

0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:16.439
<v Speaker 2>on day one of the Hawaiian Sun after coming out

0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.000
<v Speaker 2>of Sydney winter. I don't even want to show you

0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.800
<v Speaker 2>the aftermath anyway.

0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.480
<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to update you here because I left

0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.200
<v Speaker 3>you hanging with that whole like I'm so mad at

0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:24.720
<v Speaker 3>my sunburn.

0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.959
<v Speaker 1>I am I mad at myself, not of myself.

0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:29.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not even going to give you my excuse because

0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:34.200
<v Speaker 3>it's like, cringe, my excuse, it's cringe, and it just

0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.679
<v Speaker 3>makes no sense anyway. Sucks to be me, but not really,

0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:40.960
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't really suck to be me. No, it sucks

0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.120
<v Speaker 3>for my skin and my future self with my skin.

0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.319
<v Speaker 3>But you know you went se me looser.

0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to reiterate that.

0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.080
<v Speaker 2>She pointed out that she wasn't proud of this, and

0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:54.800
<v Speaker 2>she was quite embarrassed about it, But despite being ashamed

0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:57.719
<v Speaker 2>of the burn, she used it as an opportunity to

0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.240
<v Speaker 2>slip in what I guess she saw as being an

0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.840
<v Speaker 2>authentic ad. So. She has been working with skincare brand

0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Esme for a number of years now and uploaded a

0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.480
<v Speaker 2>video whilst in Hawaii for their after sun gel. The

0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.880
<v Speaker 2>product describes itself as taking the heat out of exposed

0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.160
<v Speaker 2>skin with Alavira calming sunburn. Here's part of what she

0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.240
<v Speaker 2>said in the ad.

0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Yay, we're here in Hawaii, but what is wrong with me?

0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.400
<v Speaker 3>How did I do this?

0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:24.320
<v Speaker 1>On day one?

0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.080
<v Speaker 3>Like a lot of you guys have commented and said

0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:28.800
<v Speaker 3>that when you're pregnant you're more susceptible to sunburn.

0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.400
<v Speaker 1>But no, I'm just an idiot and I didn't reapply,

0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:33.319
<v Speaker 1>so I don't even think I had sunscreen on this day.

0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:35.079
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know it was day one anyway.

0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:36.959
<v Speaker 3>Pro tip if you do happen to get sunburned, or

0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.120
<v Speaker 3>just even after a day in the sun, I lather

0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:41.960
<v Speaker 3>myself in this Sun's Skills after sunngel. It has both

0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:45.480
<v Speaker 3>aliverra and hyleronic acid, green tea, peppermin extract. It's just

0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.440
<v Speaker 3>full of all the good stuff to rehydrate your skin

0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.160
<v Speaker 3>and just soothe any kind of burning.

0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I want to point out that nowhere in this real

0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:56.520
<v Speaker 2>all the countless stories that she uploaded about esme, did

0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.320
<v Speaker 2>she include the word ad or paid partnership, which is

0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:02.640
<v Speaker 2>such a trend at the moment. Nor one is using

0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:06.680
<v Speaker 2>the paid partnership tools, which is so disappointing. Infuriates me

0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:09.040
<v Speaker 2>so much because it's really not that difficult to do,

0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's I mean, it is clear that it's now

0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.720
<v Speaker 2>because she managed to include her freshly updated thirty percent

0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:18.680
<v Speaker 2>off code. Surely, though she hasn't just gone and burned

0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:21.679
<v Speaker 2>herself in order to promote this product. This was a

0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:25.360
<v Speaker 2>thought that was echoed by Influenza updates au and I

0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.720
<v Speaker 2>personally don't think that she intentionally burnt herself for the

0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.880
<v Speaker 2>sake of this content. I don't think that she cares

0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that much about her partnership with Esme. I think that

0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.560
<v Speaker 2>she thought perhaps on this trip, she'd get more of

0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.160
<v Speaker 2>a gradual tan when she was over there, and she

0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:43.880
<v Speaker 2>could use the alleverra in some content. She is very

0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.520
<v Speaker 2>clever though. She knows what gets clicks, and she explained

0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.240
<v Speaker 2>on her story that she already had two thousand people

0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.160
<v Speaker 2>message her giving her advice on her burn. So she

0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.160
<v Speaker 2>probably thought that this was a lucrative opportunity for her

0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:58.079
<v Speaker 2>ad to perform. Well, maybe she could sign esme on

0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.320
<v Speaker 2>for another year. I mean, I'd never heard heard of

0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:04.040
<v Speaker 2>this after sun gel, it sounds pretty good. Well, she

0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:07.960
<v Speaker 2>was obviously preempting a burn. It's funny because Sarah said

0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.800
<v Speaker 2>in her Instagram story, Oh, I'm normally so good. But

0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:14.320
<v Speaker 2>she's had a real checkered past of promoting tanning. Yeah,

0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.720
<v Speaker 2>she's been criticized in the past for sharing about burns,

0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.360
<v Speaker 2>since she's known for someone who doesn't generally fake tan,

0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.160
<v Speaker 2>but she prefers to sit outside in the sun when

0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:26.400
<v Speaker 2>she's working on her computer in the hope of getting

0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.280
<v Speaker 2>a natural tan.

0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:29.719
<v Speaker 1>And this is this is.

0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Quite damaging rhetoric, because no tan is safe.

0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Even if you're sitting.

0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.320
<v Speaker 2>Out in the sun and you're not getting burnt, that

0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.200
<v Speaker 2>tan is a sign that your skin is damaged. And

0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.320
<v Speaker 2>despite the fact that she said she felt ashamed, I

0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.160
<v Speaker 2>felt like she was kind of using that as a

0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.040
<v Speaker 2>disclaimer to then give her a free pass to show

0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:46.679
<v Speaker 2>off the burn.

0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because like it's this badge of honor.

0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes. I've seen so many influencers do this. You can

0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.120
<v Speaker 2>tell they're proud because they're like, oh, it's going to

0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.080
<v Speaker 2>turn brown. I have seen this a lot with a

0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.920
<v Speaker 2>couple of the UK influences I follow, and I understand

0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that they don't have the education in sun safety that

0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:12.599
<v Speaker 2>we have in Australia, but it is a really worrying trend.

0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.600
<v Speaker 2>The Era's tour has become a safe place for so

0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:25.800
<v Speaker 2>many Swifties. The atmosphere is magical as fans exchange friendship

0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:29.400
<v Speaker 2>bracelets and showcase outfits that have been months in the making.

0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Fans in Vienna were preparing to have the night of

0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:35.960
<v Speaker 2>their lives, unaware that four teenagers were planning a chilling

0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.280
<v Speaker 2>terror plot. Sophie what has unfolded so far?

0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Well.

0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.360
<v Speaker 2>On Wednesday, authorities were forced to cancel the Vienna leg

0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.960
<v Speaker 2>of Taylor Swift's Eras tour after foiling a planned terrorist

0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:51.120
<v Speaker 2>attack at the stadium. Now three teenagers have been arrested

0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and one is being questioned over the incident. Now the

0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.680
<v Speaker 2>main suspect has been revealed as a nineteen year old

0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.600
<v Speaker 2>called Baran A who is an old Austrian citizen. He

0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.640
<v Speaker 2>is believed to have pledged allegiance to Islamic State in

0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.360
<v Speaker 2>the last month and has been radicalized online.

0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:09.000
<v Speaker 1>He had a.

0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen year old, eighteen year old and a fifteen year

0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.440
<v Speaker 2>old working as his accomplices. Now Bahrain confessed to planning

0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to kill as many people as possible outside the concert venue.

0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.000
<v Speaker 2>He intended on carrying out an attack in the area

0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.920
<v Speaker 2>outside the stadium by driving his car into the crowds

0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:32.960
<v Speaker 2>before using knives, machetes and homemade explosive devices. Bomb making

0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:36.280
<v Speaker 2>materials were also found during a raid of his house.

0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.240
<v Speaker 2>And what is even more chilling is his seventeen year

0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.000
<v Speaker 2>old accomplice is believed to have been employed as a

0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.280
<v Speaker 2>security guard for the concert and would have carried out

0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the attack. From insight that happened, I just can't get

0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.720
<v Speaker 2>over the absolute horror and confusion that would have played out.

0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.360
<v Speaker 2>To think that a security guard who is there to

0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.720
<v Speaker 2>protect fans would then turn into the attacker is just

0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:58.560
<v Speaker 2>pure evil.

0:15:58.560 --> 0:15:59.680
<v Speaker 1>It makes me feel so sick.

0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.560
<v Speaker 2>And give it from a social media perspective, each night

0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.520
<v Speaker 2>this concert is live streamed, everyone has their phone out

0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.280
<v Speaker 2>filming every moment. For TikTok, there would have been absolutely

0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:11.400
<v Speaker 2>horrifying clip.

0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:12.040
<v Speaker 4>And this is a.

0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Place predominantly where young women can unashamably be themselves. They

0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:19.160
<v Speaker 2>can dance around, be silly, where costumes, they're encouraged to

0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.440
<v Speaker 2>make friends with people in the crowd. It is also

0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:25.920
<v Speaker 2>so terrifying that not only were these teenagers planning to

0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.400
<v Speaker 2>set off a bomb, but they were going to cause

0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.280
<v Speaker 2>mass deaths through stabbing as many people as possible. And

0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.120
<v Speaker 2>this comes off the back of the Southport stabbing where

0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.760
<v Speaker 2>three little girls were stabbed to death at a Taylor

0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.720
<v Speaker 2>Swift theme event in the UK, and closer to home,

0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.240
<v Speaker 2>just a couple of months ago, we saw women and

0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.480
<v Speaker 2>a baby being stabbed at Westfield Bondi Junction, and that again,

0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.880
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be such a safe and happy space

0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:50.360
<v Speaker 2>for women.

0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I felt so.

0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Angry when I saw this come out because I've seen

0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.840
<v Speaker 2>so many recent videos of tens of thousands of fans

0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.320
<v Speaker 2>who wait outside the concert, all of those who have

0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.480
<v Speaker 2>been unable to get tickets, and the thought of them

0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:08.080
<v Speaker 2>being mowed down by cars just made me feel sick. Well,

0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:12.399
<v Speaker 2>whilst there were sixty five thousand fans expected in the stadium,

0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 2>around twenty to thirty thousand were going to be gathering outside,

0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:20.639
<v Speaker 2>and we saw incredible scenes in Germany recently where thousands

0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:23.760
<v Speaker 2>of fans swarmed a nearby hill to listen to the concert,

0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:26.399
<v Speaker 2>and it was such a beautiful site because the crowd

0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.560
<v Speaker 2>was sitting there on picnic rugs, singing along to Taylor Swift.

0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:33.240
<v Speaker 2>And it's disgusting to think that someone would see this

0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.040
<v Speaker 2>joy and think, how can I destroy this and how

0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:40.640
<v Speaker 2>can I take this opportunity and turn it into absolute chaos. Now,

0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:44.199
<v Speaker 2>the main suspect told authorities that he began planning this

0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.800
<v Speaker 2>attack last month, so he uploaded to the internet his

0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:51.320
<v Speaker 2>oath of allegiance to the current head of isis two

0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.199
<v Speaker 2>days before the planned attacks. And it's so lucky that

0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.920
<v Speaker 2>this tip off came just a day before the concert

0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.160
<v Speaker 2>was going to take place. And this actually came through

0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.399
<v Speaker 2>US into intelligence services, who informed their Austrian counterparts. Well,

0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the first place I saw this announcement was on Taylor Nation,

0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 2>which is Taylor's official management team, and at the time

0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:14.320
<v Speaker 2>of recording, Taylor Swift hasn't officially posted about the cancelation,

0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.399
<v Speaker 2>but there are reports she's offering fans in Vienna the

0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.320
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to go and watch the Eras tour for free

0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 2>at the movies. Yeah. Well, for Taylor, canceling this show

0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:26.800
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't come lightly. She has such a genuine relationship with

0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:29.760
<v Speaker 2>her fan base and she will do anything to avoid

0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:32.800
<v Speaker 2>letting them down. In an interview for Times Person of

0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.960
<v Speaker 2>the Year, Taylor said canceling a show is nearly never

0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.600
<v Speaker 2>an option. So she said, I know I'm going on

0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:43.160
<v Speaker 2>stage whether I'm sick, injured, heartbroken, uncomfortable or stressed. That's

0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.080
<v Speaker 2>part of my identity as a human being. Now, if

0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.160
<v Speaker 2>someone buys a ticket to my show, I'm.

0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Going to play it.

0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Since the cancelation, an interview of Taylor discussing her biggest

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:57.320
<v Speaker 2>fears has also gone viral. So in the twenty nineteen

0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.560
<v Speaker 2>interview with Elle.

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Taylor admitted that her the biggest.

0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Fear is violence breaking out at one of her concerts,

0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 2>and she recalled feeling terrified to go on tour for

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:10.600
<v Speaker 2>her twenty seventeen album Reputation following a string of violent

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.600
<v Speaker 2>attacks at recent festivals. So, if you'll cast your minds

0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:17.200
<v Speaker 2>back to twenty seventeen, a suicide bomber killed twenty two

0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:21.440
<v Speaker 2>people at injured hundreds at Ariana Grande's concert in Manchester,

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:24.640
<v Speaker 2>and five months later, a lone gunman murdered fifty eight

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:28.360
<v Speaker 2>people at an outdoor country music festival in Las Vegas. Now,

0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Taylor said I was completely terrified to go on tour

0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:33.440
<v Speaker 2>this time because I didn't know how we were going

0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:37.320
<v Speaker 2>to keep three million fans safe over seven months. She

0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.639
<v Speaker 2>did back it up by saying there was a tremendous

0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.760
<v Speaker 2>amount of planning, expenses and effort put into keeping her

0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:46.240
<v Speaker 2>fans safe during that tour. Another horrifying fact that Taylor

0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.359
<v Speaker 2>revealed after these events was that she now carries around

0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.040
<v Speaker 2>army grade bands dressing, which is specifically used for gunshot

0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.000
<v Speaker 2>or stub wounds. This incident also comes less than a

0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:01.280
<v Speaker 2>month after one of Taylor Swift's suspected stalkers was arrested

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.880
<v Speaker 2>while trying to enter one of her German shows. So

0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.359
<v Speaker 2>an American man who hasn't been named came to the

0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:11.360
<v Speaker 2>attention of authorities after he allegedly made threats on social

0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:15.920
<v Speaker 2>media against Taylor Swift and also her boyfriend Travis kelce Now,

0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Travis was in attendance at the concert, and this is

0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.199
<v Speaker 2>just one of many stalkers that Taylor Swift has. In

0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty eighteen, she told Newsweek that she used facial recognition

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:30.720
<v Speaker 2>software at her concerts to identify her known stalkers on

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.439
<v Speaker 2>a data base. I was going to say, is they

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.840
<v Speaker 2>just like a print off of this man's photo at security?

0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 2>Now it's much more high tech than that. It is

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.480
<v Speaker 2>a really scary time for the couple because only a

0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:43.440
<v Speaker 2>week ago, Travis Kelcey and a teammate received a threat

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.440
<v Speaker 2>where someone said that they were going to shoot them

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.520
<v Speaker 2>at a concert they were aut This wasn't a Taylor

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Swift concert, it was a Morgan Wollen concert. It's sad

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.920
<v Speaker 2>to see this because we saw during Coach Hella that

0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Taylor and Travis were out and about. They were having

0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:00.520
<v Speaker 2>a nice time at the festival. It seems they can't

0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.440
<v Speaker 2>do this anymore after all of these threats.

0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there has been a.

0:21:03.640 --> 0:21:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Lot of speculation around why Taylor hasn't publicly commented on

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.879
<v Speaker 2>the incident, Because when a fan died at one of

0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.960
<v Speaker 2>her concerts in Brazil this year, she put out a comment.

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 2>She also put out a comment about the Southport stabbing,

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.920
<v Speaker 2>so fans were anticipating that she was going to say

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 2>something about this incident. I think it's because it's really

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 2>unknown and she's probably been told by police, look, you

0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:30.280
<v Speaker 2>can't officially put any information out there. Well. Initially fans

0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.680
<v Speaker 2>thought that Taylor and her team may be holding off

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:36.600
<v Speaker 2>from making an announcement because they could be considering canceling

0:21:36.640 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 2>her London shows, because she's supposed to be playing five

0:21:39.880 --> 0:21:43.280
<v Speaker 2>shows at Wembley this week, which will bring the European

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.719
<v Speaker 2>leg of her tour to a close, and in the

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>UK there is just so much political unrest at the moment.

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 2>As we touched on two weeks ago, there were those

0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.240
<v Speaker 2>terrible stabbings and Taylor said at the time that she

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.520
<v Speaker 2>was in complete shock over that attack. Now, London's mayor

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.840
<v Speaker 2>has confirmed that the concerts will go ahead, saying We're

0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.360
<v Speaker 2>going to carry on, and he confirmed that authorities had

0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 2>adapted their surveillance of shows in London based on what

0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 2>they learned from the twenty seventeen attack on Ariana Grande's concert.

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I did see comments online. People were saying, well, if

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Wembley is secure enough for the royal family, surely it's

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 2>secure enough.

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:19.320
<v Speaker 1>For Taylor Swift.

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 1>And London has had a lot.

0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Of experience in handling these kind of threats in the past,

0:22:23.920 --> 0:22:26.719
<v Speaker 2>so out of any of the cities, I think London

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.960
<v Speaker 2>is best suited to handle this situation. Well. Authorities would

0:22:29.960 --> 0:22:32.920
<v Speaker 2>be hoping that this is an isolated incident. I think

0:22:32.960 --> 0:22:36.040
<v Speaker 2>that she stayed silent about these attacks because she's received

0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:40.240
<v Speaker 2>advice from counter terrorist intelligence. So maybe they have told

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 2>her that if she makes a public response, it could

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.919
<v Speaker 2>potentially fuel terrorists to target another show, because if she

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.520
<v Speaker 2>comes out and says, oh, this event has hit me

0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.639
<v Speaker 2>so hard, it could incite more violence because they know

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.840
<v Speaker 2>that it had such an impact on her. I think

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:58.240
<v Speaker 2>that performing in London could be a real healing experience

0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 2>for Taylor and her fans. I think it their step

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.320
<v Speaker 2>in taking back the power. We have already seen Swifties

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 2>in Vienna sending the message that love is stronger than terror,

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 2>and these images have been going viral on TikTok. We've

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>seen Swifties flooding the streets of Vienna to perform their

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:17.680
<v Speaker 2>own live rendition of the erarors to it. And these

0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:21.199
<v Speaker 2>images are so powerful, particularly when Swifties marched to the

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 2>Smallest Man who Ever Lived, which seems to be directed

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.240
<v Speaker 2>at the terror suspects. Well, the lyric that hit deep

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.880
<v Speaker 2>was when it said you were sent by someone who

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:34.439
<v Speaker 2>wanted me dead. They also sung Taylor's later single I

0:23:34.440 --> 0:23:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Can Do It with a Broken Heart, as well as

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 2>the ten minute version of All Too Well. For some reason,

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I just imagined middle aged men wanting to go out

0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to the city to do some shopping and stumbling upon this. Well,

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 2>it's very defiant of them, especially because of the threats

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.680
<v Speaker 2>that have been made to actually stand together in such

0:23:51.720 --> 0:23:54.080
<v Speaker 2>a large group on the street. Well, I think they

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 2>felt safe because the suspects had been arrested, and I

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.120
<v Speaker 2>think authorities said it seemed to be an eye isolated incident.

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.160
<v Speaker 2>It was just such a wholesome moment too, because there

0:24:04.280 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 2>is another video going viral of a bride and groom

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 2>who were in the streets of Vienna. They were hoping

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 2>to get some photos and they ended up being followed

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>by hundreds of swifties singing love Story and have you

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 2>seen it? Because this video is iconic. It was just

0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 2>showing how love conquers everything. And one follower commented saying

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 2>that these photos remind them of the Grinch movie. So

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.439
<v Speaker 2>in whose Fee when the Grinch stole Christmas, all of

0:24:29.440 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 2>the citizens came out and sang Carol's together. And I

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 2>think that these videos are so lovely because whilst we've

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 2>seen the worst in humanity, it's also giving us a

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 2>view of the best in humanity and how people are

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 2>overcoming this.

0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 4>Obviously, there is you know, the media outlets, the gossip pages,

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 4>the journalists, the reporters like all of the above, you know,

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 4>having a field day.

0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Former Married at First Sight contestants Ella and Dom have

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 2>officially pulled the pin on their controversial podcas Sit with Us.

0:25:01.440 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 2>The announcement follows months of speculation about the podcaster's friendship Amy.

0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell us what happened?

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So, on Thursday, Dom shared a statement in the

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Sit with Us Facebook group, saying she and Ella had

0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.080
<v Speaker 2>come to a joint decision to end the podcast. She wrote,

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 2>as I sit to write this, my heart is filled

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>with gratitude for each and every one of you over

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 2>the past two years. Your unwavering support has meant the

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:26.879
<v Speaker 2>world to me, and I want to take a moment

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>to express my deepest thanks. From the very beginning, Ella

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and I dreamed of building something special, but we could

0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 2>never have imagined the amazing community that would grow from

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>our idea. Each episode, each discussion, each shared story has

0:25:40.800 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 2>been a labor of love, and know that our content

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 2>has resonated with people from all corners of the world

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>has been beyond rewarding. Now Don went on to thank

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 2>the og listeners for their feedback, engagement, and encouragement, and

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 2>said it was important they heard about the decision directly

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>from her now. Following the statement, the Sit with Us

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Instagram and tik talk account were all deleted. I wonder

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 2>if they're deleted or archived because she only someone wants

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:08.840
<v Speaker 2>to use that page for a different business. But maybe

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 2>if there is something going on behind the scenes with

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 2>this friendship, no one wants to actually take the account

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>yet because that would cause more trouble. Well, Ella was

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:20.160
<v Speaker 2>a notable absentee from this statement, and as you said,

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 2>it led many people to speculate that a friendship breakdown

0:26:23.320 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 2>could be one of the main reasons for the podcast

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>coming to an end. The other reason was due to

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 2>widespread backlash the podcast is received, and this was for

0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:36.720
<v Speaker 2>platforming Math's villain Jack on their show, who controversially told

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>a contestant to muzzle his wife. Now, this episode attracted

0:26:40.720 --> 0:26:44.520
<v Speaker 2>the attention of Abby Chatfield, who dedicated a whole episode

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>on her own podcast to slamming Ella and Dom's decision

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 2>to give Jack a platform, and it also led to

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 2>Ella and Dom losing tens of thousands of followers on Instagram. Interestingly, though,

0:26:56.640 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Dom copped most of the criticism and she ends up

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.280
<v Speaker 2>checking herself into a mental health facility following all the

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>backlash because it just became too much for her to bear. Now,

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 2>as reported by so Dramatic, rumors have been flying that

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Ella was trying to distance herself from Dom following the controversy.

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>The pair also haven't been seen together for months and

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 2>haven't been liking or commenting on one another's photos, which

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 2>I think is a telltale sign that perhaps this friendship

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 2>is over. So dramatic also reported that dom has deleted

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 2>photos from Ella's wedding.

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:33.359
<v Speaker 1>This seems like a breakup. It's a friendship broker.

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Well. Ella broke her silence on Friday, and she addressed

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 2>the end of the podcast by releasing an Instagram story,

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Let's have a listen.

0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 4>I wanted to make my personal comment on the Seat

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 4>with Us podcast and how yes, it has come.

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.200
<v Speaker 1>To an end. And it's not a sad thing. It's

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>not a bad thing.

0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 4>It's a positive it's exciting.

0:27:57.160 --> 0:27:59.359
<v Speaker 2>Ella then took a swipe at the media, saying not

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:02.720
<v Speaker 2>to believe everything you read online. Let's have a listen.

0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:06.920
<v Speaker 4>Just want to remind you, guys, to not believe everything

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.680
<v Speaker 4>that you read online if you haven't learned from the past.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>But that is up to you, that is completely your choice.

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.680
<v Speaker 4>But just want to say here that there is no

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:22.320
<v Speaker 4>issues with Domini. There is no problems. It is just

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:25.760
<v Speaker 4>a chapter closing and that is okay, and all good

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:27.280
<v Speaker 4>things do come to an end.

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 2>It really shows how damaging that one episode was for

0:28:31.359 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>their overall brand.

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, what's really fascinating is that the Sit with Us

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>podcast actually had their best month when the controversial episode dropped,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:42.600
<v Speaker 2>So that month they had one hundred and forty thousand

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 2>people who listened to their podcast compared to the month

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 2>prior when it was only fifty thousand listeners. So it

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>really shows that controversy does get listeners, but it can

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>have long lasting damaging effects to your brand. So but

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 2>this just makes me think that clearly they have stopped

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 2>their podcast because their friendship is over. Because if you

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 2>have almost tripled your audience by creating controversy, why wouldn't

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>you then have You know, they've had their time off.

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Dom's gone into the mental health facility, She's got better,

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>They've given it a break. Why wouldn't you come back

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 2>bigger and better than every I.

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Agree with you.

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I think there's been a clear rift in this friendship,

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 2>and I think it started over this episode because maybe

0:29:21.080 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Dom felt like she was copying the blame and she

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't feel supported by Ella.

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>However, if you.

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>Think about it, there has been so much backlash about

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 2>this episode. I can't imagine a lot of brands would

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 2>want to align themselves with this podcast. I disagree because

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Aunt Dom and Ella still working as influencers. They're probably

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>not finding it difficult to get jobs. Dom hasn't had

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 2>a sponsored post since the incident, whereas Ella has had

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 2>a number of sponsored posts, but that's due to the

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 2>fact that Ella didn't copy it half as much as

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Dom did.

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think that's all we've got time for today.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for listening to another episode of Outspoken.

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Don't forget to go and follow us on Instagram and

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>on TikTok at Outspoken Underscore the Underscore Podcast. Thank you

0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 2>for all of the positive feedback we had on our

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 2>video about the Olympic chocolate muffins. If you want to

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 2>see more cooking stuff, let us know. We want to

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 2>do a few more trends. This episode was recorded on

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the traditional end of the Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>We pay respect to elders past and present.