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Speaker 1: And how do you feel, like, obviously, I mean, without

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about going into work knowing that I.

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Speaker 4: Think to be honest, I think that healthcare workers are

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Speaker 1: Guess because there's a a lot of senior health care

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Speaker 4: So yeah, that that that probably in fairness, yes, there

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Speaker 1: There's no trying to love your compliment there, Dad, I

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Speaker 4: So thinking is that that possibly relates to the fact

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Speaker 1: Time much more well either way, Dad, I think you're

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Speaker 1: doing a wonderful job.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 3: The show, and a massive hats off and respect to

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Speaker 3: everyone who's working healthcare right now and from themselves in

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Speaker 3: danger and yeah, obviously helping a whole lot more of

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Speaker 2: Really appreciated Dad, Thanks very much. Hey, do you want

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Speaker 2: to give your book a quick pug before you go?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not you out till November.

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Speaker 2: National exposure. They're gone begging Lauren see what you're hearing.

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