1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Here at Two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: this podcast. 4 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: There were innerie people. This land was never seated, always 5 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: was always will be Hi. 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm Abby Delmi from Two Good Sports. It's sports news 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 1: told differently. And you know that if you're hearing my 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: voice first on this podcast, that Georgie is still away. Yes, 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: our mate Georgie Tunney is killing it on the amazing race. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: Clearly. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Again, I don't know if you can bet on these things, 12 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: but get on that market early. We've had very sporadic 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: contact and she can't tell me where she is or 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: what she's doing, as is the nature of these things. 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: But it sounds like it's been an adventure. So she 16 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: and Rob are killing it. We cannot wait to watch. 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: There will be viewing parties, and of course we're going 18 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: to deviate from sports and do some sort of episode 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: on what really happens on reality TV when she gets back. 20 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: I can promise you that. 21 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: But in her place this week, we have a very 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: very special guest. 23 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: I love this chat. 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Edible Beck Allen, the WNBA veteran and Ossie basketball legend. 25 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: Now she spent over a decade in the States, chasing 26 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: her dream and playing at the highest level of basketball 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 1: that is possible. And she talks to us about that journey, 28 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: her identity, what it's like being traded from team to 29 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: team without your consent. I just can't imagine that. But 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: also she delves into the heartbreak of missing the paras 31 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: Olympics in twenty twenty four due to injury and what 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: that journey has meant for her. It's a story of brasilience, identity, 33 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: but just this warm, honest, funny force of a person 34 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: that I'm definitely trying to befriend. And yes, I did 35 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: invite myself over to her new house immediately after the 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: podcast because she is a delight. So please enjoy Beck's chat. 37 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: But before we get there, I'm going to do a 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: good sport. I'm doing a good sport on my loansome 39 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: this week. There's not much room for reaction, but I'm 40 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: sure that you're can enjoy it at home because we 41 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: are going to gather around in the AFL and George 42 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: is not here to temper my excitement by trying to 43 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: bring up the NRL. So here we go, Isaac Rankin. 44 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: We one of our inns for the start of the 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: year was Georgie and I saying that we wanted to 46 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: see more personality from players. You don't get much more 47 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: personality than this. With an open mic and a guitar, 48 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: Isaac rankin of the Adelaide Crows belted out this. 49 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: Beauty queen Oh Hoveling eighty had some trouble with herself. 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: He was always there too. 51 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: Hell eyes belong someone elm. I drove a thousand thousand una. 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: I had you so many times. Some I don't spend 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 4: in every day on your corner and the pier for 54 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: the girl, the Brocus smile, ask your issues. 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 3: The staal sho. 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to play the full version of that, but 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: of course you've got other things to do with your day. 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: But please do look it up. Isaac rank and your 59 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: ears are welcome. And in the footage there text Walker's 60 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: got his phone out, just filming like a proud mum. 61 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 3: It's just one of. 62 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: Those beautiful things where you see a sports style willing 63 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: to put themselves out in a different arena. 64 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: He's killing it. 65 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: It's personality, It's everything that we want to see on 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: two good sports. 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: Love it, absolutely love it. 68 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: Enjoy this chat with Beck she's a special one. 69 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: Bec allan welcome to two good sports. How are you? 70 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: I'm super happy to be here. This is gonna be 71 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: a lot of fun. You say it's. 72 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: Happy to be here, but you're happy to be in 73 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Melbourne because we were just chatting a little bit before 74 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: we pressed record. 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: And you rarely get to get home, do you. 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: No, I'm never home and that's why I've had maybe 77 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 5: six months and that's like a big chunk of time 78 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 5: for me. 79 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: So it's been nice just to be. 80 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 5: Home, see friends more than once, you know, see them 81 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 5: repeatedly and just I don't know, those connections are really 82 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 5: important to me, and then my family especially I'm now 83 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 5: an auntie, so that's why it's also really like good 84 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 5: for me just be home and share and these like 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 5: special moments together. 86 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: Is that your twin brothers? 87 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, my twin brother which I'm sure we'll link into 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: how we talk about you being competitive growing up. 89 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 3: Imagine. 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was about to say I had a pledge 91 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: of meeting Chris when you and I happen to be 92 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: sat at the same table at tennis. 93 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: Will take that. But tell us, so what is auntie 94 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 3: life like? It's so special? 95 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think I realized I'm quite an emotional person. 96 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: I think she put a beating on for the first 97 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 5: time and almost cries, You've got the most beautiful soul 98 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 5: I've ever seen. 99 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: And that is the hard part as well as being away, 100 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: is having those connections, especially when they are so little 101 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: and your career has taken you all around the world, 102 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: but namely to America for the past ten years, which 103 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: is such a massive achievement. 104 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: To a plane in the WNBA for a decade. 105 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Some people aspire to even get one girds you, let 106 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: alone the career that you've been able to forge. 107 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 3: But take us back to a little beck. 108 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Imagine the first time you put on your beanie. What 109 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: was it about basketball that did things for you? 110 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 5: Well, I was originally a netballer, and I liked that 111 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 5: with basketball you could run everywhere you play the defense, 112 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 5: you could shoot the ball, so you could do everything. 113 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 5: Whereas a netful always put me as gold defense. I 114 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 5: was like, I just want to shoot it, you know, yeah, 115 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 5: And so it's funny. So I've become a shootout with 116 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 5: in basketball as well, and I've just I've enjoyed the 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 5: friendships I've made in it. I've enjoyed where it's taken me. 118 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: But I've never been that person when I was young, 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 5: being like I want to play in America. I didn't 120 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: even really know about the WNBA until like maybe a 121 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 5: year before I played there. What do you Yeah, I 122 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: didn't really know much about it at all. It wasn't 123 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 5: something i'd looked towards. No, that's crazy to be weird. Yeah, yeah, 124 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 5: is that because your career escalated at such a young age. 125 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: And I guess you talk about being involved in netball. 126 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: I wonder if you're way too young to even be 127 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 5: thinking this pine the sky. But is there that appeal 128 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 5: of basketball that you can play all over the world 129 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 5: and you can early better money all over the world 130 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 5: than what you can with netbull. 131 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:09,799 Speaker 3: Or was that not even a thought? 132 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 5: Well, like, nepple is not an Olympic sport either. I 133 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 5: remember when I was young, I wanted to be Kathy Freeman. 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 5: So it was really anyway I could gets exactly. So 135 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 5: I think maybe that that part of it was a 136 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 5: played a role. But I just I like the game. 137 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 5: I like how fast paced it is. I really enjoy 138 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 5: watching it as well, and so yeah, I don't know things. 139 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 5: For me, it's not like I've ever been like I 140 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: want to get from A to B to C. Things 141 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 5: have just sort of eventuated as it's gone. But I'm 142 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 5: also I've worked hard for it too. 143 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: I was about to say it eventuated at sixteen. You're 144 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: playing in the highest domestic competition when you're here in 145 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,919 Speaker 1: the WNBL, Does that force you to grow up quickly? 146 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: Like we were? 147 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Probably at sixteen? What was I was probably still weirdly 148 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: into Pokemon. 149 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: Well, actually we last no shame in that. 150 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: Georgie who's usually my co host on here, I was 151 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,559 Speaker 1: voting her partner through Australian Idol and Rob Milsey Mills. 152 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 2: That's what my big concern was at sixteen. 153 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: Were you able to still be a kid playing in 154 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: a women's league or did it force you to grow 155 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: up quickly? 156 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 3: A bit of. 157 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 5: Both, I guess, I think because it was still semi 158 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 5: professional in Australia, so it's not like what I have 159 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 5: now in the WBA, where it's like your whole life 160 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 5: goes into this playing of it. So I was still 161 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 5: at university. I was still at high school sixteen. 162 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: Sorry at that point, I'm still at high school. So 163 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: I was high school then. 164 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 5: Also, I was playing dubbing bell when I was at 165 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 5: UNI as well, So it was like, You've still got 166 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 5: your two lives that you're able to do and it's challenging. 167 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, But I think the skill that 168 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 5: I learned is balancing things, you know, because I've always 169 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: made time for friendships and doing the fun things as well. 170 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: I'm a bit of a foodie. I like to go 171 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: out and eat, So. 172 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 5: I think that balancing act I've learned from a young age, 173 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: and it's something that I think is the hardest thing 174 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 5: I think for anyone in any career, at any time 175 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 5: their life, is to gain that balance. But it's something 176 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 5: I really try to focus on because it keeps me happy. 177 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it is so important to have that balance, 178 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: and particularly it's such a competitive sport, it would be difficult, right, Like, 179 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: there's already always more shots that you could put up, 180 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: there's always more training that you could do. 181 00:07:58,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: Yes. 182 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: Is that what your advice would be for someone younger 183 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: looking to get into sport an elite level? 184 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so. 185 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: I think my advice is always take every opportunity as 186 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: it comes. I think you never know who's watching. You 187 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 5: don't know where things can take you don't know where 188 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: your love of it is going to go as well. 189 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 5: But I think, yeah, that balance piece is something that 190 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: is just really hard to. 191 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: Achieve, especially when you're at the top level. 192 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: And so for me now, I think I'll always lose 193 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: my balance when I'm over in the WNBA or something 194 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 5: because your whole focus has to be basketball. 195 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: So this time in Melbourne, like six months, I'm swinging 196 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: the pendulum. Oh my god, very much. Take me out. 197 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 3: Desperately need a friend. 198 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: But I feel like I fill up my happy cup 199 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 5: right now whilst I'm here in Melbourne. I do all 200 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 5: that sort of stuff whilst working out, and I go 201 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 5: over to America and it's like, hey, let's just lock 202 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: into this this five six months. 203 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: I want to drill inta. 204 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: You just said like, if you're young and you're playing, 205 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: you just never know who's watching. And I'm sure that 206 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about someone that can really champion your career 207 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: and take you from as you said that A to 208 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: B two C when you might not even have that 209 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: vision for yourself. Yes, was there someone that champed in 210 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: your career that you really think without them, you potentially 211 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been on this path. 212 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's sort of funny. 213 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 5: I think at every single stage I've had, I've had 214 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 5: someone My favorite coach always will be Guy, my lawyer. 215 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: I played with him and Melbourne Boomers. He's someone that really. 216 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 5: He saw a lot in me and then he just 217 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 5: gave me a chance after chance after chance. And this 218 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 5: was at the WNBL level, and then I ended up making. 219 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: How old were you when you were under him? 220 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 5: I would have been. I remember I had my twenty 221 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 5: first when I was playing for him. 222 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: I was twenty out who you are and this person 223 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 3: believes in you? 224 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: He did, and I think having that really good season 225 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 5: allowed me to make my first It wasn't Australian team. 226 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: It was like for a tour. 227 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 5: So that's when we went to America and that's when 228 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 5: I really saw, Okay, the WNBA. So we played teams 229 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 5: in their pre season, in their training camp and I 230 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 5: had some really good games over there, and that's how 231 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 5: I got picked up by New York. 232 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 3: So I think a lot happened through Guy. You mentioned 233 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: getting picked up by New York. 234 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: Take us back to when you found out that you 235 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: were drafted to the WS, Like, how give. 236 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 3: Me the day? Paint the picture for me? 237 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 5: Well, Firstly, I'm undrafted, so I never I wasn't in 238 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 5: the draft or anything like that. So I've just got 239 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 5: picked up purely through doing this tour. So they saw 240 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 5: me playing for Australia at twenty one. 241 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Wait, so you're not even watching to see if you 242 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: get picked up. You just receive a phone call. 243 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: I just got to went through my agent. They didn't 244 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: even call you. Your agent calls you and how do 245 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 3: you feel about playing for York? 246 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 5: So yes, I was an undrafted athlete twenty fifteen, and 247 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 5: that's when I get my first Bill Lambier part of 248 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 5: the Bad Boys for the Detroit Pistons. He was the 249 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 5: coach at that time and he was the one that 250 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: really sought after me, and so I played there for 251 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: seven years. 252 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 3: So that's sort of funny, like how things have gone. 253 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: That's what I really mean. 254 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 5: Like I went into this tour because I wanted to 255 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 5: make the Australian team, but in the end it started 256 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: my career. 257 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: What was the WNBA like back then? 258 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: Oh, it's tough, and it's always tough. 259 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 5: And I think just as I've gotten old throughout it, 260 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 5: I think I've grown up as a person. 261 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 3: I've changed as a person. 262 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: Through those experiences, for sure, I've had to really harden up, 263 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 5: I think, And that's a blessing and a curse, I think. 264 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 5: And I just found those first couple of years is 265 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 5: my big thing was to never show any emotion in 266 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 5: front of anyone, so that it was hard, Like you there, 267 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 5: it's not just your coaches going at you, it's your 268 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 5: it's your teammates holding you accountable. 269 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 3: And accountability is a word that gets used a lot 270 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: over there and a whole new fan base. The fans 271 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: are hugh, especially New York. 272 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 5: They're very die hard as well, and they'll tell you 273 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 5: how they feel, and so it's some of it's quite 274 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 5: confronting in a sense. So I remember my first maybe 275 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: two years, after a lot of practices, I'd go home 276 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 5: and I cry after a lot of them. But like 277 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 5: I know a lot of other players that have been 278 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 5: in the same boat. But is because there were so 279 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 5: many new situations for me, like I've never had teammates 280 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 5: holding me accountable like that, I've never get drilled again 281 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 5: and again and again. You're really having to stand up 282 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 5: every single time. But my thing was I was never 283 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 5: going to show anything that was not strong. I guess 284 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 5: whatever word you want to use in front of in 285 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 5: front of my teammates. 286 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 3: So I had to grow up. 287 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: A lot, and that, I guess is probably two things. 288 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: Americans take sport very differently to Australians at all levels. 289 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: But also in addition to that, you're in New York, 290 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: like you haven't been given a self instruction into what 291 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: is more of a smaller town, like you are in 292 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: the apple of America's eye trying to cut your teeth 293 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: at such a young age. You mention like obviously that 294 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: you'd go home and you'd be emotional and I'd imagine drained, 295 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: both physically and emotionally, and you're like, that was just 296 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: training alone, actually getting out. 297 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: There in the case of fun. 298 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: Do you think that we've seen a shift in sports 299 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: psychology now that that vulnerability piece and taking care of 300 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: people is different or would there still be people at 301 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: that level that would be going through those feelings. 302 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 5: I think there's a both. I really think there's both. 303 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: I think that the landscape is shifted as well. In WNBA, 304 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 5: I think there was that mentality, go hard, go at 305 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 5: each other. Now you still are like that, but it's 306 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 5: in a different way. So we do hold people accountable 307 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 5: but it's done in a different way. And I think 308 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 5: even though, like I'm a veteran now and I know 309 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: how I would want to speak to all my teammates, 310 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 5: you know, so I lead in the way that I 311 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 5: would want to have been treated when I was a 312 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 5: rookie in the league too. So I think that when 313 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 5: you've got personalities like that around you, it creates a culture. 314 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: It's funny because I was talking to someone about like 315 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 5: culture in the WNBA, and you go, how can you 316 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: create a culture when people are getting traded constantly? So 317 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 5: in season pre seasons, I've just been traded to Chicago 318 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: and then you've just got to buy into this whole 319 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 5: new system and you sort of learn that fluidity. 320 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: And we sort of and I guess the nature of 321 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: it is, we're always going to see this more at 322 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: the men's level hit in mainstream media, and we saw 323 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: the Luca Donti trade where everyone lost their mind that 324 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: he didn't know, no one knew and Lebron didn't know. 325 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, who knew what? 326 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: But it's this idea that players are commodities, not people, 327 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: and that they can be traded for the best of 328 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: the organization. And you've experienced that first hand where you 329 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: think you're enjoying it somewhere and then next minute you're like, wait, 330 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going where now? Yeah, tell us a 331 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: little bit what that experience is like and is that 332 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: something that you hope will change or is. 333 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 3: It just part of the game. I think part of 334 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: the game. And that's what I've learned. 335 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 5: I know my first trade was after doing seven years 336 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 5: at New York and I was traded to Connecticut. 337 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: And I did not take that well at all because 338 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: you thought you'd found your home. You do you think that? 339 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: And also the way things are spoken about, And that's 340 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: what I think I've learnt within it is that you know, 341 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 5: friendship that's quoted by a GM or all these other 342 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: things where they're trying to make you feel like, hey, 343 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 5: you're going to retire here. 344 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 3: That's just all noise in a sense. 345 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: You can't listen to that in a way because you 346 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 5: don't know what's going to happen or who's going to 347 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 5: become available, and they want them more than you, and 348 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 5: then you're a piece. Like you said, you're a commodity. 349 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 5: And so that's why I don't take anything as personally now. 350 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 5: But it can still hurt. We're all human, do you know, 351 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: Like this last trade from Phoenix, I was really hoping 352 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 5: that I was going to end my career there, especially 353 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 5: because I chose that team. But it's okay. I've ended 354 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: up being in Chicago. It's going to be another really 355 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 5: cool experience. I think been to Chicago before just to play, 356 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 5: so I haven't really spent like a lot of time there, 357 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: but it's going to be I think. 358 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: Wild that You're like, I'm just I'm spending X amount 359 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: of time in my life been a city that's been 360 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: nominated by someone else. 361 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: Someone, which is terrifying. 362 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 5: And that's why I think having this home, like this 363 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: home time now six months and being like stable and 364 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 5: knowing whom coming back to every day, like that's just 365 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: been a really big breath of fresh air for me. 366 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: So I've got I had to look at your WNBA 367 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: stats and goddamn, you're impressive. 368 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: I say that behind your back and I. 369 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Say it to your face, but you're the ten fastest 370 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: player in the WNBA history to record at least one 371 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: thousand points, five hundred rebrounds, one hundred and fifty blocks, 372 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: and one hundred and eighty three pointers. And you achieved 373 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: that in one hundred and ninety five games, So in 374 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: all the women that have ever played the game, you 375 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: were the tenth fastest to achieve that. There are different 376 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: stats like that, and again God bless Americans and how 377 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: much they record everything, tenth fastest, twenty seven degrees outside. 378 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: On that day. 379 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: Is there something that you're most proud of in your 380 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: We'll get to your open's career in a little bit. 381 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: But in that, WNBA, is there something that you're most 382 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: proud of? 383 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 5: Probably the longevity. Yeah, it's not I'm not really a 384 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: stats person in that sense. I can find them overwhelming, 385 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 5: but I really, for me, it's the way that I've 386 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 5: been able to stay in the league. 387 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: And it's sort of funny. You find your little niche 388 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: within things. 389 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 5: And I know right now a big part of my 390 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 5: role is not just being a shooter and a score 391 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: or a defender. 392 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: It's my personality. 393 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 5: I think I know, so right now they've brought me 394 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 5: in also just to be that glue piece and something 395 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 5: I'm willing to chase on. 396 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: Mister genality, There's nothing wrong with that. I'm the nice one. 397 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: You're bringing me in just so that everyone has a 398 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 3: good time and all enjoyed that. It's really important. 399 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 5: You need to enjoy if you're going to be spending 400 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 5: that much time together, you really do want to enjoy 401 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 5: each other's company. And so I know that what they're 402 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 5: building now is they're trying to get good people in 403 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 5: as well as good athletes, and we'll see where it goes. 404 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: Is there any player in your career that you most 405 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: try to model that off? Like I know that in 406 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: my industry. Again, I'll say it behind her back because 407 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: she's not here, but Georgia is someone that you walk 408 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: into a room and you can't help but lift, like 409 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: you lift a few points because just her energy is 410 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: so contagious and brings out the best in people, always 411 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: building each other up. Is that someone that at your level, 412 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Like obviously there were elite athletes and we'll get to 413 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: Lauren Jackson in a little bit, but that you get 414 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: to play with that you would have idolized. But is 415 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: there someone that had that piece just that good thoughts about. 416 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 5: My mine has always been Penny Taylor, because I think 417 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 5: you can be an elite, epic player and a great 418 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 5: person too. You need to be the you know, too polarizing. 419 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 5: You know, that's why I loved I played with her. 420 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 5: My first World Cup was in twenty fourteen in Turkey, 421 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 5: and I remember playing with her and I was like, 422 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 5: that's exactly how I want to be as a teammate. 423 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 5: You know, she's someone that just kept everyone together. She 424 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 5: wasn't also this highly emotional person WhatsApp. You know the 425 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 5: people that are like right, no, she's that's always the 426 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 5: younger ones, always the young ones that try to get 427 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 5: the people together. 428 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 3: She but she was definitely that level and just kept everyone. 429 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: I'm not getting too high too low, because you know 430 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 5: how sport there's so many highs and lows within a 431 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 5: tournament style play as well. 432 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: She's really good. 433 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: How big is a name like Lauren Jackson when you 434 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: go over as an Australian in America? 435 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: Does everyone bring her up to you like she must 436 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: be a cousin? Yeecially like that. 437 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 5: It's so funny when people say, like, I've got this friend, 438 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 5: you know, Derek, could you know him? 439 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, it's it's no, but yeah, everyone does. 440 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 5: But the respect that she's gone, especially after her career 441 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 5: in Seattle, like it's unreal. It's unreal what she's done 442 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 5: and is doing within her career and now even just 443 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 5: off the court as well, so she's having her impact everywhere. 444 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: Sharing the court with her as an opal. 445 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's that's massive because she's got an 446 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 5: aura about her and there's this intimidation. You also learn 447 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 5: some little techniques and stuff and what she'll do, and 448 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 5: because she's got that sort of that mentality of no 449 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 5: one's going to beat me, you know, so you learn, Yeah, 450 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: you learn from people like that, and so yeah, it 451 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 5: was really great sharing the court with her. 452 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned the fact that Netbull you can't play 453 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Is that was always if you're going to 454 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: be Kathy Freeman, you need to get to Olympic level. 455 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 1: What did it mean for you to get that first 456 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: cap and go to Tokyo and what a weird Olympics 457 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: it was? 458 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean Tokyo. It was awesome to be 459 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 5: able to go to an Olympics, you know, and I've 460 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 5: now cherished that probably more than I did that first time, 461 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 5: because that was a hard Olympics as well, because nothing 462 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 5: went right, you know, like leading up to it. There 463 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 5: was all this controversy and stuff that happened with our 464 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 5: lead up in practice games and then that made things disjointed. 465 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: We lost one of our main players in that moment too, 466 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 5: so then it was trying to rebuild ourselves within an 467 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 5: Olympic campaign, and then there's no fans in the crowds, 468 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 5: so it was tough. 469 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 3: It was a tough first one. 470 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 5: That's why I was really looking forward to the Paris Olympics, 471 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 5: and that didn't go super well for me, so it 472 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 5: was Yeah, last year was a really challenging year for me. 473 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 2: You're very humble. You said Paris didn't go well for you. 474 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: You were so instrumental in Australia's qualifying of which was 475 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: a clean sweep of that tournament, and you were playing 476 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: Canada in just the last hurdle before you were going 477 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: to get to play at the Games. Yeah, and unfortunately 478 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: did a hamstring. I hate to take you back to 479 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: that moment, but I think it's so important to get 480 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: an idea for the resilience that you need to have 481 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: as an athlete. Although in saying that athletes get injuries, 482 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: I think you've hit your quota. 483 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 3: Of reconstructions as just a teenager. 484 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: You've had some cartlidge in a knee that also ended 485 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: one of your seasons, and then you get to the 486 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: Virgin of Olympics. Yeah, at Paras Olympics, no less, and 487 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: you're crueled by injury once again. Who did you lean 488 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: on in that time? And how important is it for 489 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: you to, I guess, take positives from that and try 490 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: to find positives. 491 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's probably my biggest hurdle by far. 492 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: It's something and I still hope. I would love it 493 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 5: to not be the last thing I think about each night. 494 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: You know, it's still that thing that plays on my 495 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: mind because I didn't like how things went down personally 496 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: for me. And that's another reason why I've decided to 497 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: play this WNBA season, because my last game can't be 498 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 5: a scratch match against Canada. 499 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: That's a pretty dull way to end your career. That's 500 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: not for me. But yeah, it was tough. 501 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: It was tough to be in the village and then 502 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,719 Speaker 5: be replaced the day before the opening ceremony and then 503 00:20:58,440 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: not even be able to pack up your stuff and 504 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 5: a hotel room there in lil So I found that hard. 505 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 5: I was waiting for a couple of days till my 506 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 5: parents could actually be because they were in Belgium, and 507 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: then they finally joined me. So the people I lean 508 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 5: on like hugely were my parents. So yeah, I was 509 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 5: in little. I was in little throughout the Olympic campaign. 510 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 5: Doctor you saw was in the village. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 511 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 5: And so I went and watched one of the games. 512 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 5: I went and watched the play Canada. Actually, yeah, but 513 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 5: it was tough. It's tough being there when and you're 514 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 5: trying to show your support and all of that too, 515 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 5: but to be up in the gods and the stands 516 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 5: as well as it's funny when you're so removed from 517 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 5: a team that you gave so much of yourself too. 518 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, is there any way upon this guy that you 519 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: look to? 520 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: La do you dream? No? No, I can't. 521 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 5: I think for me, I've given I haven't announced any 522 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 5: retirement yet from the Australian team, but I've given all 523 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 5: of what I can give to that group, and I 524 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 5: think it's maybe my time to step away and to 525 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 5: do that knowing that I gave everything and I enjoyed 526 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 5: so many aspects of it too. 527 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: But my well cut before that. 528 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 5: I had a collapse lung in a game with broken 529 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 5: broken ribs and played through it, and then the next. 530 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: Competition was an Olympics. It played through a collapse, played 531 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: two games with yeah, collapse, lung and some broken ribs. 532 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, pardon, So there was just there's been a 533 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: lot for me that's been linked with the Australian and 534 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 5: but there's also my focus is to not be just 535 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: solely on that. I think that there has been some 536 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 5: beautiful friendships within it. There has been some beautiful moments 537 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 5: and so much success as well. There's been so much success, 538 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 5: but the I just don't know if I've got enough 539 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 5: to give, and it might maybe it's time for some 540 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 5: of the younger ones coming through to give it a 541 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 5: different a different life and a different energy. 542 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: That's also the beauty of hitting your thirties, I think, 543 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: is you get to sit back and zoom out and 544 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: choose this is This might be what people think I 545 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: should want, but this is what I actually want and 546 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: how I want to paint a legacy for myself. 547 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and what feels good. Yeah, it has to be 548 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: feels good. That's exactly right. And you can't force something, 549 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 5: I think, and especially because playing for your country is 550 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 5: such a big achievement, it's such a big thing and 551 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 5: that you do you have to be all in, you 552 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 5: have to be all in, So it'd be unfair of 553 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 5: me to do something if I wasn't. So that's a 554 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 5: huge element in my decision. 555 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, you're all in on the w 556 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: NBA and excited for the new season when you see 557 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: the rise of someone like Caitlin Clark, which is remarkable 558 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: that a rookie is someone that everyone talks about like 559 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: she's reinvented the game. She has, but she has in 560 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: terms of that piece of the viewership is incredible. 561 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: Her contract with Nike. 562 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 2: Can anyone get a slight slither? That would be adult 563 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: light wild. 564 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: So when you see that sort of growth in a 565 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: league that you're attached to, what do you think they're 566 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: getting so right in the States and how can we 567 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: emulate that here? 568 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: I think that they're really leaning on her this season, 569 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 5: which is a really good thing and they have to. 570 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 5: And maybe there was controversy around, hey, we were giving 571 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 5: too much to somebody's just come in the league and 572 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 5: hasn't proven herself yet. Now she's proven herself and she's 573 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 5: the one that's moved that needle and just having that 574 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 5: view as she skyrocket you just see that every game 575 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 5: that she's playing on whatever court, they've either got to 576 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 5: move to the bigger arenas or it's a total sell 577 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 5: out as well. And it makes headlines here, Oh it does, 578 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 5: It does, and that's huge as well because we don't 579 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 5: really speak about the women's game here in Australia that much. 580 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 5: So even if we're not talking about how at least 581 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 5: we're talking about some of the Americans there. Do you 582 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 5: know which is it's a funny concept, but she's she's 583 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 5: a great player, and for a point guard to be 584 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 5: this good early, there's some she's just got so much 585 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 5: ahead of her. 586 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: You've been such an incredible advocate over your time in 587 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: women's basketball, for both basketball here and just yourself as 588 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: a role model and someone that those young kids can 589 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: look up to. Is that something that you see in 590 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: life after basketball? However far away that may be? Because 591 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: you're incredible at media and I can say that as 592 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: someone You've been on the panel show with us and 593 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: afterwards our producer was like, goddamn, she's good. 594 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: She is fun and that's the thing. 595 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: It's meant to be fun. But is that something that 596 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: you think about after? What does life look like after basketball? 597 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: I would hope. 598 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 5: So I was doing some NBL commentary year and I 599 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 5: realized I really enjoyed that because it gives you that 600 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 5: adrenaline rush, the same thing that anything live does. I 601 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 5: think you get that adrenaline. I know you understand this 602 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,479 Speaker 5: as well. And when you're in that game, even if 603 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 5: you're not playing, you've sort of got to be on 604 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 5: your game. 605 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: When you're doing it's still your heart rate. It's a 606 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: wild even doing offsiders right before there's the. 607 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 5: Three to one we're on air, I get this woom. 608 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: Oh my heart rate. But yeah, I would love to 609 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 3: get into that space. 610 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: My degree is in marketing, so I'm trying to do 611 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 5: something I can get a job within the marketing space 612 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 5: that has some involvement on link to sports. 613 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: So I'm working that out at the moment. 614 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 5: And once i think I've got that, I'll feel I 615 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 5: feel really comfortable leaving the game because I mean, I've 616 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 5: done it for a long time. 617 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: Why not why not pivot? Time to pivot? 618 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: And also, there's no find something again that feels good 619 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: and something that you're naturally inclined to be doing, which 620 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: is really exciting. And you mentioned that you've got a 621 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: marketing background, will it makes sense that Naked Soul will. 622 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 3: Do a collaboration. 623 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: All the big ballers a shoe deal, so why wouldn't 624 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: you as well. Now I love the story of this 625 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: because it was such an organic partnership between you and Niona, 626 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: wasn't it. 627 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I like doing things with good people. 628 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 3: And it's funny. 629 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 5: I reached out to her because I've got a big foot. 630 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 5: Something that's a little insecurity, right, but it's. 631 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 3: So relative to your height. 632 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: It's allowed in Australian Champion, so that checks out. 633 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 3: I apci. 634 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: I've got a big foot, but it doesn't work with 635 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: my height, so I should really be more more presecure. 636 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 5: But so she just sized up to fifteen and I 637 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 5: reached out to her after buying a pair that I 638 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 5: saw through Instagram and I love them, and then I 639 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 5: just had to say thank you because it's so hard 640 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 5: to find shoes. 641 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 3: They go up for me. 642 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: I'm just size twelve women sometimes scraping to a thirteen, 643 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: but so hard to find nice shoes, and so that's 644 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 5: why I thanked her. 645 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 3: And then we got on a zoom and then all. 646 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: Of a sudden we're doing a collab and so it's 647 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 5: sort of funny how that's gone down. 648 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: And it's interesting wearing them on off siders. 649 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 5: I wore another pair of shoes on off side because 650 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 5: looking again, You're like, my heart is racing in my head. 651 00:26:58,920 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, I like her shoes. 652 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 5: You're allgau they are great, They're great. I just like 653 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: that they're comfortable and they fit, do you know? And 654 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: they just look and they're just really feminine. 655 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 3: You know. 656 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 5: That's the other part, because you don't want to always beware. 657 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 5: I know sneakers today, but sometimes you don't want to 658 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 5: wear that, do you know? And so I don't know. 659 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 5: I like that she's so passionate about what she's doing. 660 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 5: It's something that I feel I feel passionate about too, 661 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: just because we've lived they still feel comfortable and making 662 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 5: people feel not only discomfortable, stylish, stylish. Yeah, And I 663 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 5: just think I love how sport and fashion has been. 664 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: I've seen the swagger intros it and they've gone through 665 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: the roof in the w NBA. 666 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: Do you like that that personality I got into it. 667 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 3: I got into it, like, am I swaggy? No? No, 668 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 3: I'm not slaggy, but you really have swag. 669 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: But that's why I've sort of just leant into what 670 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: my fashion is you know, and that's okay too, but yeah, 671 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 5: some of the girls, they really really get into it. 672 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 5: But it's added like a whole different viewership because totally 673 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 5: you don't need to just be in basketball to enjoyed 674 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 5: that side of the game too, So they're sort of 675 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 5: meshing these different avenues and it's creating quite a cool 676 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 5: product in general. And it's all well and good for 677 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 5: the w NBA players to get custom shoes made and 678 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 5: different bits and pieces, but this is bringing that accessibility 679 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 5: to people from anywhere that can order shoes online and 680 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 5: feel great. 681 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 3: So we love that from Naked Sole. 682 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: We love that they're doing colubs, and especially with one 683 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: of our own, so that's unreal. 684 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: Beck. 685 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: We usually do a fun fact on so this is 686 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: like a fun fact that we bring and I've just 687 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: made you our fun fact here on Two Good Sports. 688 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,959 Speaker 3: You love to bake? I do. Oh my god, I 689 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: just bought mixing bowls the other day. I'm back in 690 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 3: my baking era. 691 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: For someone who barely gets to be home, like you've 692 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: been back for six months? 693 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: What is it? Yeah, Okay, you're the sour dough girl. 694 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 3: I sour dough. 695 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,959 Speaker 5: I was the one that was like, hey, what's the 696 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 5: longest recipe that I so I. 697 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: Can fill up my entire day? Oh six hours? Great? 698 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: So you bought mixing bowls yesterday? What is it about baking? 699 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: Because we love that. Of course, you just talked about 700 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: how intense that work can be and how much you 701 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: have to be dedicating everything else. We love finding out 702 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: the different side that you're passionate about that. I bet 703 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: not many people ask you about in a sporting based 704 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: in demand. So tell me about your baking. It's your 705 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: favorite thing that you've ever baked? 706 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 3: Oh, apple pie? I really enjoy that. 707 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 5: But I like how therapeutic it feels like it's not 708 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: even just baking, it's cooking in generally. I had friends over 709 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: last night for dinner, and I was like cooking for people. 710 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: And maybe I've learned that from my mum, because that's 711 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: her love language. She loves to cook for people and 712 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: it makes her happy as well, and I think that's 713 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: very similar for me. I really enjoy cooking out like baking. 714 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: So an apple pie. Maybe I'll make a little rubab tart. 715 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 5: I shouldn't talk. 716 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean it tastes good. Everything I'm making. It 717 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: doesn't mean it's good well, I'll just let you. 718 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: Know that we are open to baked goods anytime. 719 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: So if you're in the area, I know that you 720 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: just bought in Melbourne as well, so congratulations to your 721 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: homeowner you and if you ever in the area, we 722 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: will absolutely take an apple pie. It's just a huge 723 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: congratulations to us on your career who you. 724 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: Are as a person, but also the career that. 725 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: You're making for yourself in media or whatever like full 726 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: look like after basketball. We're sure that it's going to 727 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: be an outstanding success because you're just an outstanding person. 728 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 3: So thank you so much for the time. That's super lovely. 729 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: Thank you