WEBVTT - I May Have Experienced A ✨ Soft ✨Season 🍁 Depression ❄️

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>From the Long Weekend. Congratulations to the forty team that

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty two?

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I wouldn't pay for either, but we've got to

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's a trap like I've been thinking recently.

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<v Speaker 3>All the things, all the things in our lives currently

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<v Speaker 3>that have sought to give us this sense of convenience

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<v Speaker 3>have made us really dependent, but we're actually trapped.

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<v Speaker 1>If you drop me. We come here a lot every

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go. Don't bite the hand that feeds.

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<v Speaker 3>We know you love when we come through with a

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<v Speaker 3>few psychological sociological sociological is that the word terms. I've

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<v Speaker 3>could podcasts go there. But now we're talking about ugly privilege.

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<v Speaker 3>Up until literally a month ago, I'd never heard of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had considered it maybe briefly once upon a time,

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<v Speaker 3>but really got to the nooks and crannies of what

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<v Speaker 3>it is to have ugly privilege. The term I did

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<v Speaker 3>not come up with. The concept came from Reddit to

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to those people. But I think in order

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<v Speaker 3>to really understand ugly privilege, we've got to understand pretty privilege. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So pretty privilege is a term that the Internet has

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<v Speaker 3>coined broadly to describe the benefits of being associated or

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<v Speaker 3>conforming to society's beauty standards. So like the privileges that

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<v Speaker 3>you get from being pretty in the way that everybody

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<v Speaker 3>can objectively see is true, thin and nice teeth and

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<v Speaker 3>clear skin, young young, that's a big one. That is

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<v Speaker 3>a big one. Our glass body jacked v line all

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<v Speaker 3>of the above, and the pretty privilege. The privilege in

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<v Speaker 3>itself comes from what we call the halo effect, which

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<v Speaker 3>is this idea that we judge people who are physically

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<v Speaker 3>attractive as being more good, or we apply positive characteristics

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<v Speaker 3>to them, and when people are not pretty, we assume

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<v Speaker 3>worse of them. So you might inadvertently feel that someone

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<v Speaker 3>who is more attractive is safer to be around, or funnier,

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<v Speaker 3>or smarter or more successful than their ugly counterparts. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>in this reddit thread that I found, it said, what

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<v Speaker 3>are some underrated ugly privileges that you have that people

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<v Speaker 3>might not necessarily know are true? And so I'll read

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<v Speaker 3>them out. One says, as an introvert, I enjoy that

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<v Speaker 3>people don't pay me attention when I walk into a room.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, okay, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>When someone loves you, you know it's because of your

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<v Speaker 3>personality major key, let me put let me put everything

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<v Speaker 3>down for this, I said, let me actually read this

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<v Speaker 3>whole threat and through. They said, no one will sit

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<v Speaker 3>next to you on public transports, so you have more

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<v Speaker 3>space for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not getting cat called and having to worry about a

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<v Speaker 3>man acknowledging me in public, not worrying about losing your

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<v Speaker 3>looks as you age, mastic stuff. People don't consider you

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<v Speaker 3>a threat in the work or dating landscape. You might

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<v Speaker 3>not get positive attention. People don't think you're inherently untrustworthy

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<v Speaker 3>or too power hungry or too ambitious.

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<v Speaker 1>What in the world this is great?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, There's always something to know and consider.

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<v Speaker 3>So that being said, we've talked a lot about beauty

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<v Speaker 3>standards and the kind of futile attempt to be so

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<v Speaker 3>in line with them, because they will change quicker than

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<v Speaker 3>you can change to accommodate them. You know, for the

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<v Speaker 3>last I don't know, five years, it's been the hourglass body,

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<v Speaker 3>the big boobs, the small waist, the big But now

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<v Speaker 3>we're going back to stick thin. We don't have the

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<v Speaker 3>metabolism to keep up. But what I will say is

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<v Speaker 3>that it's kind of it's kind of validating this idea

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<v Speaker 3>that if you don't subscribe to prettiness, there is an

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<v Speaker 3>inherent privilege in being ugly if you so choose.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a couple of side quest benefits.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the one of like what was the one

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<v Speaker 1>that there was a real good one there? Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people loving you for who you are as opposed to huge,

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<v Speaker 1>and that never goes away like huge you could only

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by certain standards it's only gonna get You're

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<v Speaker 1>only gonna get more powerful in the ugly space as

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<v Speaker 1>life goes on. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the most charismatic ugly person a room full of

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<v Speaker 3>people who love you. They're obsessed every joke Land.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, there is Yeah, there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is something in feeling like you've got nothing to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm not sure that's the full ugly experience,

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<v Speaker 3>but it could be. Yes, positive, I must confess. I

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<v Speaker 3>think I just experience my first soft seasonal depression. For

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<v Speaker 3>the last three months, I think I'd been ultimately fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know there was a problem until spring had sprung.

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<v Speaker 3>The sun was out, the sky was blue. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>from Sydney, might be thinking it's like that every day.

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<v Speaker 2>I moved to Melbourne, Babe, Yeah, it's different.

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<v Speaker 3>I moved to Melbourne, and though I would spend the

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<v Speaker 3>majority of any given week still in Sydney, even though

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<v Speaker 3>I moved, something about waking up to gloominess was really

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<v Speaker 3>getting me down in a way that was only physiological. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>my body was affected and I didn't I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>my mind was following. So how do I know that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm out of what I was in the night? Our

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<v Speaker 3>behavior is back. I've been going to bed at midnight

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<v Speaker 3>for the last three months. That's not me, babe, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not something's wrong. Yes, for me to not be for

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<v Speaker 3>me to be asleep before midnight, something's off, because like

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<v Speaker 3>ten to three am are my hours of activity.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pumped.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm learning my little my little crow, I'm reading my

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<v Speaker 3>little books, I'm playing my little games. I'm writing my

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<v Speaker 3>little journal. Haven't done any of that. I've been a ghost.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just thought it was like I'm growing up.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I don't have hobbies anymore. Yeah, maybe I'm a carcass,

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<v Speaker 3>the shell of a person. I unpacked and cleaned my

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<v Speaker 3>whole house in three days. When I say unpacked, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean I moved states and left one whole room just

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<v Speaker 3>full of things that did not have a home that

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<v Speaker 3>I would get to eventually. And in my head I

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<v Speaker 3>told myself stories like, oh, it's gonna take ages, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>do a little bit every day. It all got done

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<v Speaker 3>in a day. And I didn't just clean.

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<v Speaker 2>I deep cleaned. Yes, I spring cleaned. I donated well

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<v Speaker 2>in a day. Didn't think to call me first rapes.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I did think about a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the things at the time, but I was just

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<v Speaker 3>so stuck in getting it done fair enough, fair enough.

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<v Speaker 3>The admin of it all was just so gratifying.

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<v Speaker 1>I do still want your Suku two piece if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever gonna fel I literally was wearing those pants yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Goold see, so there's still some life in them, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but it'll come to you. What I will say is

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<v Speaker 3>that I did some search on seasonal depression because I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, is that what happened to me? Because as

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<v Speaker 3>you all know, I don't have a great mind body

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<v Speaker 3>soul connection.

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<v Speaker 1>So you say, as we all know, I'm not the

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<v Speaker 1>one that has a mental illness, because it would suggest

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<v Speaker 1>so by.

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<v Speaker 3>The door, it would suggest I'm not the mentally ill

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<v Speaker 3>part of the duo.

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<v Speaker 2>But I could be. I could work on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my mind, body, mind, body soul. Yeah, connection is

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<v Speaker 3>just it lacks. My mind goes first, my body comes later,

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<v Speaker 3>my emotions come way after that. So I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>some googling why do I suddenly have energy? The first

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<v Speaker 3>thing that comes up you might have been experiencing seasonal depression.

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<v Speaker 3>It's categorized as feeling less like yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Lah lah lah.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no clear cause of seasonal depression. But less sunlight

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<v Speaker 3>and shorter days are thought to be linked to a

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<v Speaker 3>chemical change in the brain, and maybe part of the

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<v Speaker 3>cause of it melatonin, a sleep related hormone. You can

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<v Speaker 3>get a deficiency of that, apparently allegedly in the coller

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<v Speaker 3>months when there's no sun, and that could affect you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>All that I know is that winter is canceled. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't do another one. I've got to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm somewhe where those sun because I just I'm even

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<v Speaker 3>speaking faster. We need to run the tape back. I

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<v Speaker 3>was operating. Even my catchphrase the last three months, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say people, I'm operating on zero point two five speed.

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<v Speaker 3>I know what happened operating on zero point two five.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm back, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm scared to move back to Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's sunny there now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But like the winter, the grainess never goes. It

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<v Speaker 1>can be the heat of summer.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, the vibe is different. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 3>promise you have stunt a freak me out. And I

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<v Speaker 3>was loving it in winter, at least I thought I was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it always goes. That's the way it

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<v Speaker 1>always goes. I love looking at what targeted ads I

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<v Speaker 1>get because it is always indicative of a whether little

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<v Speaker 1>misters Mark Zuckerberg thinks I'm a really make you reflect

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself and think you're putting things out in the

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<v Speaker 1>world that suggests you are unwell or I just also,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I studied advertising. I like seeing who's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the ads send. Lately, I keep seeing those pig

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<v Speaker 1>Whole Project things on the back of buses. You know that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Pigeon Project whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Not familiar, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I still know what it is because I haven't googled it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've seen those ads for like five years. I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this product? It's not like an AHM moment

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<v Speaker 1>like where they get all the money jam the health insurance.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just have a look at the free press.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, the Pigeon Project.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, wait up, guys, A lot of the ads I

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<v Speaker 3>get are just for mindfulness, ADHD related stuff and time management.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well that is what I'm doing. Sorry, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>this is about. Is I got Also, guys, have just

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<v Speaker 1>figured out The Pigeon Project Australia is founded by j

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<v Speaker 1>C Doco, which is to help our partners and ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>understand the way the people like you interact with advertising.

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<v Speaker 2>Work selling your data.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop it anyway among little instea moment and I get

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<v Speaker 1>a ad looks like this.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like a chat right for the screenshot of

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<v Speaker 3>a WhatsApp thread.

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<v Speaker 1>And it says, girl, you need Motion. It's sent from Julie.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Julie's mate says Motion. Then she says yep, so

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<v Speaker 1>worth the points sixty two cents a day. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>an AI assistant that helps keep your life in order.

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<v Speaker 1>No more forgetting or messing up your schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>I need this.

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<v Speaker 1>And the kind of like whole thing was like you

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<v Speaker 1>have ADHD, like here is how to help it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can be thinking like would you pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty sixty two cents a day?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you pay sixty two cents a day for an

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<v Speaker 1>app that an AI assistant?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you download the app?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Pay?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have sixty two cents a day to pay

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<v Speaker 1>to spend. I just go back from New York. Babes

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the same I told you I spent thirty two

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<v Speaker 3>Australian dollars on a hot dog at a festival, not

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<v Speaker 3>not I'm not talking artisanal bores.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking like a red red.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog is Brahor's like brad Hoas.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, I don't know damn Anyway, I love downloading

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<v Speaker 3>downloading an app. It's one of my favorite hobbies. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>download any app. I'll pay for any app. But would

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<v Speaker 3>I use it for its functionality? Probably not? I think

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<v Speaker 3>where for example, if I had ADHD. I'm not diagnosed

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<v Speaker 3>and that, but if I did, and I was getting

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<v Speaker 3>an app that was going to help me be more efficient,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that my lack of efficiency would be setting

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<v Speaker 3>up the app to help me be more efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>All the things i'd need to do, the like the

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<v Speaker 3>dedication required to make this app actually work for me

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<v Speaker 3>is too.

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<v Speaker 2>Much the barrier.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I'm learning the rules to a game. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don'tenough time exactly all the where.

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<v Speaker 3>With all emotional I feel like you should have downloaded

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<v Speaker 3>it though, I'd love to get a little one too

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<v Speaker 3>on too but too late.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you know my life changed, FLEXI when you told

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<v Speaker 1>me that if you're not paying for an app.

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<v Speaker 2>You are the product.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the product.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this instance, sixty two cents a day.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe this is a product that might.

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<v Speaker 1>Work, but like, obviously it's an AI, so obviously they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be like taking all the girlies data.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway to help you. Yeah, you don't want help. No, babes,

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<v Speaker 4>don't say. What's j Corle saying? Don't save her? She

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't want to be saved. And that's what all comes

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<v Speaker 4>back to. There's no such thing as self development.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's a nice somber way to leave today's show. Anyway.

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