Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex
Speaker 1: and Frooms.
Speaker 2: Catch up podcast.
Speaker 1: From the Long Weekend. Congratulations to the forty team that
Speaker 1: won down in Victoria. I couldn't tell you because I
Speaker 1: don't watchfl get into it. That is all set to
Speaker 1: change next year when you redacted TBC guys, would you
Speaker 1: pray for a virtual assistant for sixty three cents a day?
Speaker 2: Sixty two?
Speaker 1: Actually I wouldn't pay for either, but we've got to
Speaker 1: talk about it. We're gonna talk about organizational areas and
Speaker 1: apps generally.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's a trap like I've been thinking recently.
Speaker 3: All the things, all the things in our lives currently
Speaker 3: that have sought to give us this sense of convenience
Speaker 3: have made us really dependent, but we're actually trapped.
Speaker 1: If you drop me. We come here a lot every
Speaker 1: time I use my map.
Speaker 2: Oh that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I know why I drive you, so don't get my
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Speaker 2: Let's go. Don't bite the hand that feeds.
Speaker 1: This is Flex and Firms on cater.
Speaker 3: We know you love when we come through with a
Speaker 3: few psychological sociological sociological is that the word terms. I've
Speaker 3: got another one for you. We've recently discussed the sassy
Speaker 3: Man apocalypse. If you're not really familiar with what that is,
Speaker 3: we do have a podcast flex and frooms everywhere. Get
Speaker 3: could podcasts go there. But now we're talking about ugly privilege.
Speaker 3: Up until literally a month ago, I'd never heard of it.
Speaker 3: I had considered it maybe briefly once upon a time,
Speaker 3: but really got to the nooks and crannies of what
Speaker 3: it is to have ugly privilege. The term I did
Speaker 3: not come up with. The concept came from Reddit to
Speaker 3: shout out to those people. But I think in order
Speaker 3: to really understand ugly privilege, we've got to understand pretty privilege. Okay,
Speaker 3: So pretty privilege is a term that the Internet has
Speaker 3: coined broadly to describe the benefits of being associated or
Speaker 3: conforming to society's beauty standards. So like the privileges that
Speaker 3: you get from being pretty in the way that everybody
Speaker 3: can objectively see is true, thin and nice teeth and
Speaker 3: clear skin, young young, that's a big one. That is
Speaker 3: a big one. Our glass body jacked v line all
Speaker 3: of the above, and the pretty privilege. The privilege in
Speaker 3: itself comes from what we call the halo effect, which
Speaker 3: is this idea that we judge people who are physically
Speaker 3: attractive as being more good, or we apply positive characteristics
Speaker 3: to them, and when people are not pretty, we assume
Speaker 3: worse of them. So you might inadvertently feel that someone
Speaker 3: who is more attractive is safer to be around, or funnier,
Speaker 3: or smarter or more successful than their ugly counterparts. Now,
Speaker 3: in this reddit thread that I found, it said, what
Speaker 3: are some underrated ugly privileges that you have that people
Speaker 3: might not necessarily know are true? And so I'll read
Speaker 3: them out. One says, as an introvert, I enjoy that
Speaker 3: people don't pay me attention when I walk into a room.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, okay, let's talk about it.
Speaker 3: When someone loves you, you know it's because of your
Speaker 3: personality major key, let me put let me put everything
Speaker 3: down for this, I said, let me actually read this
Speaker 3: whole threat and through. They said, no one will sit
Speaker 3: next to you on public transports, so you have more
Speaker 3: space for yourself.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Not getting cat called and having to worry about a
Speaker 3: man acknowledging me in public, not worrying about losing your
Speaker 3: looks as you age, mastic stuff. People don't consider you
Speaker 3: a threat in the work or dating landscape. You might
Speaker 3: not get positive attention. People don't think you're inherently untrustworthy
Speaker 3: or too power hungry or too ambitious.
Speaker 1: What in the world this is great?
Speaker 2: I said, There's always something to know and consider.
Speaker 3: So that being said, we've talked a lot about beauty
Speaker 3: standards and the kind of futile attempt to be so
Speaker 3: in line with them, because they will change quicker than
Speaker 3: you can change to accommodate them. You know, for the
Speaker 3: last I don't know, five years, it's been the hourglass body,
Speaker 3: the big boobs, the small waist, the big But now
Speaker 3: we're going back to stick thin. We don't have the
Speaker 3: metabolism to keep up. But what I will say is
Speaker 3: that it's kind of it's kind of validating this idea
Speaker 3: that if you don't subscribe to prettiness, there is an
Speaker 3: inherent privilege in being ugly if you so choose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple of side quest benefits.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love the one of like what was the one
Speaker 1: that there was a real good one there? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: people loving you for who you are as opposed to huge,
Speaker 1: and that never goes away like huge you could only
Speaker 1: you know, by certain standards it's only gonna get You're
Speaker 1: only gonna get more powerful in the ugly space as
Speaker 1: life goes on. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the most charismatic ugly person a room full of
Speaker 3: people who love you. They're obsessed every joke Land.
Speaker 2: Wow, there is Yeah, there.
Speaker 1: Is something in feeling like you've got nothing to lose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not sure that's the full ugly experience,
Speaker 3: but it could be. Yes, positive, I must confess. I
Speaker 3: think I just experience my first soft seasonal depression. For
Speaker 3: the last three months, I think I'd been ultimately fine.
Speaker 3: I didn't know there was a problem until spring had sprung.
Speaker 3: The sun was out, the sky was blue. If you're
Speaker 3: from Sydney, might be thinking it's like that every day.
Speaker 2: I moved to Melbourne, Babe, Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 3: I moved to Melbourne, and though I would spend the
Speaker 3: majority of any given week still in Sydney, even though
Speaker 3: I moved, something about waking up to gloominess was really
Speaker 3: getting me down in a way that was only physiological. Oh,
Speaker 3: my body was affected and I didn't I didn't know
Speaker 3: my mind was following. So how do I know that
Speaker 3: I'm out of what I was in the night? Our
Speaker 3: behavior is back. I've been going to bed at midnight
Speaker 3: for the last three months. That's not me, babe, that's
Speaker 3: not something's wrong. Yes, for me to not be for
Speaker 3: me to be asleep before midnight, something's off, because like
Speaker 3: ten to three am are my hours of activity.
Speaker 2: I'm pumped.
Speaker 3: I'm learning my little my little crow, I'm reading my
Speaker 3: little books, I'm playing my little games. I'm writing my
Speaker 3: little journal. Haven't done any of that. I've been a ghost.
Speaker 3: But I just thought it was like I'm growing up.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't have hobbies anymore. Yeah, maybe I'm a carcass,
Speaker 3: the shell of a person. I unpacked and cleaned my
Speaker 3: whole house in three days. When I say unpacked, I
Speaker 3: mean I moved states and left one whole room just
Speaker 3: full of things that did not have a home that
Speaker 3: I would get to eventually. And in my head I
Speaker 3: told myself stories like, oh, it's gonna take ages, I'll
Speaker 3: do a little bit every day. It all got done
Speaker 3: in a day. And I didn't just clean.
Speaker 2: I deep cleaned. Yes, I spring cleaned. I donated well
Speaker 2: in a day. Didn't think to call me first rapes.
Speaker 3: Do you know what I did think about a lot
Speaker 3: of the things at the time, but I was just
Speaker 3: so stuck in getting it done fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 3: The admin of it all was just so gratifying.
Speaker 1: I do still want your Suku two piece if you
Speaker 1: ever gonna fel I literally was wearing those pants yesterday.
Speaker 3: Goold see, so there's still some life in them, Okay,
Speaker 3: but it'll come to you. What I will say is
Speaker 3: that I did some search on seasonal depression because I
Speaker 3: was like, is that what happened to me? Because as
Speaker 3: you all know, I don't have a great mind body
Speaker 3: soul connection.
Speaker 1: So you say, as we all know, I'm not the
Speaker 1: one that has a mental illness, because it would suggest
Speaker 1: so by.
Speaker 3: The door, it would suggest I'm not the mentally ill
Speaker 3: part of the duo.
Speaker 2: But I could be. I could work on it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mind, body, mind, body soul. Yeah, connection is
Speaker 3: just it lacks. My mind goes first, my body comes later,
Speaker 3: my emotions come way after that. So I was doing
Speaker 3: some googling why do I suddenly have energy? The first
Speaker 3: thing that comes up you might have been experiencing seasonal depression.
Speaker 3: It's categorized as feeling less like yourself.
Speaker 2: Lah lah lah.
Speaker 3: There's no clear cause of seasonal depression. But less sunlight
Speaker 3: and shorter days are thought to be linked to a
Speaker 3: chemical change in the brain, and maybe part of the
Speaker 3: cause of it melatonin, a sleep related hormone. You can
Speaker 3: get a deficiency of that, apparently allegedly in the coller
Speaker 3: months when there's no sun, and that could affect you.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: All that I know is that winter is canceled. I
Speaker 3: can't do another one. I've got to make sure that
Speaker 3: I'm somewhe where those sun because I just I'm even
Speaker 3: speaking faster. We need to run the tape back. I
Speaker 3: was operating. Even my catchphrase the last three months, I
Speaker 3: would say people, I'm operating on zero point two five speed.
Speaker 3: I know what happened operating on zero point two five.
Speaker 3: Now I'm back, bro.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm scared to move back to Melbourne.
Speaker 2: No, it's sunny there now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But like the winter, the grainess never goes. It
Speaker 1: can be the heat of summer.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, the vibe is different. Okay, I
Speaker 3: promise you have stunt a freak me out. And I
Speaker 3: was loving it in winter, at least I thought I was.
Speaker 1: That's the way it always goes. That's the way it
Speaker 1: always goes. I love looking at what targeted ads I
Speaker 1: get because it is always indicative of a whether little
Speaker 1: misters Mark Zuckerberg thinks I'm a really make you reflect
Speaker 1: on yourself and think you're putting things out in the
Speaker 1: world that suggests you are unwell or I just also,
Speaker 1: like you know, I studied advertising. I like seeing who's
Speaker 1: doing the ads send. Lately, I keep seeing those pig
Speaker 1: Whole Project things on the back of buses. You know that,
Speaker 1: like the Pigeon Project whatever.
Speaker 2: Not familiar, guys.
Speaker 1: I still know what it is because I haven't googled it,
Speaker 1: but I've seen those ads for like five years. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: what is this product? It's not like an AHM moment
Speaker 1: like where they get all the money jam the health insurance.
Speaker 2: Let me just have a look at the free press.
Speaker 1: I know, the Pigeon Project.
Speaker 3: Wait, wait up, guys, A lot of the ads I
Speaker 3: get are just for mindfulness, ADHD related stuff and time management.
Speaker 1: Okay, well that is what I'm doing. Sorry, that's what
Speaker 1: this is about. Is I got Also, guys, have just
Speaker 1: figured out The Pigeon Project Australia is founded by j
Speaker 1: C Doco, which is to help our partners and ourselves
Speaker 1: understand the way the people like you interact with advertising.
Speaker 2: Work selling your data.
Speaker 1: Stop it anyway among little instea moment and I get
Speaker 1: a ad looks like this.
Speaker 3: It looks like a chat right for the screenshot of
Speaker 3: a WhatsApp thread.
Speaker 1: And it says, girl, you need Motion. It's sent from Julie.
Speaker 1: Then Julie's mate says Motion. Then she says yep, so
Speaker 1: worth the points sixty two cents a day. It's basically
Speaker 1: an AI assistant that helps keep your life in order.
Speaker 1: No more forgetting or messing up your schedule.
Speaker 2: I need this.
Speaker 1: And the kind of like whole thing was like you
Speaker 1: have ADHD, like here is how to help it. And
Speaker 1: I can be thinking like would you pay.
Speaker 2: Fifty sixty two cents a day?
Speaker 1: Would you pay sixty two cents a day for an
Speaker 1: app that an AI assistant?
Speaker 2: Did you download the app?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Pay?
Speaker 1: I don't have sixty two cents a day to pay
Speaker 1: to spend. I just go back from New York. Babes
Speaker 1: the amount of money.
Speaker 2: I told you.
Speaker 3: It's the same I told you I spent thirty two
Speaker 3: Australian dollars on a hot dog at a festival, not
Speaker 3: not I'm not talking artisanal bores.
Speaker 2: I'm talking like a red red.
Speaker 1: Dog is Brahor's like brad Hoas.
Speaker 3: I think, I don't know damn Anyway, I love downloading
Speaker 3: downloading an app. It's one of my favorite hobbies. I'll
Speaker 3: download any app. I'll pay for any app. But would
Speaker 3: I use it for its functionality? Probably not? I think
Speaker 3: where for example, if I had ADHD. I'm not diagnosed
Speaker 3: and that, but if I did, and I was getting
Speaker 3: an app that was going to help me be more efficient,
Speaker 3: I think that my lack of efficiency would be setting
Speaker 3: up the app to help me be more efficient.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 3: All the things i'd need to do, the like the
Speaker 3: dedication required to make this app actually work for me
Speaker 3: is too.
Speaker 2: Much the barrier.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm learning the rules to a game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don'tenough time exactly all the where.
Speaker 3: With all emotional I feel like you should have downloaded
Speaker 3: it though, I'd love to get a little one too
Speaker 3: on too but too late.
Speaker 1: Now you know my life changed, FLEXI when you told
Speaker 1: me that if you're not paying for an app.
Speaker 2: You are the product.
Speaker 1: You are the product.
Speaker 3: But in this instance, sixty two cents a day.
Speaker 2: So maybe this is a product that might.
Speaker 1: Work, but like, obviously it's an AI, so obviously they're
Speaker 1: going to be like taking all the girlies data.
Speaker 4: Anyway to help you. Yeah, you don't want help. No, babes,
Speaker 4: don't say. What's j Corle saying? Don't save her? She
Speaker 4: doesn't want to be saved. And that's what all comes
Speaker 4: back to. There's no such thing as self development.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a nice somber way to leave today's show. Anyway.
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