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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: the twenty seventh of July. On today's podcast, we're diving

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Speaker 1: into the apology from Pope Francis to the Indigenous people

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Speaker 1: of Canada. But first, Sarah, what is making headlines this morning?

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Speaker 2: Not a good record to set, but there was a

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Speaker 2: new record high hospitalization rate established yesterday. That is, of course,

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Speaker 2: in relation to COVID nineteen. Four hundred and thirty three

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Speaker 2: people were recorded to be in hospital with COVID nineteen

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Speaker 2: in Australia, surpassing the previous record of five three hundred

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Speaker 2: and ninety which was set in late January.

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Speaker 1: It was back to school for our parliamentarians yesterday and

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Speaker 1: Milton Dick was elected as the new Speaker of the

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Speaker 1: House of Representatives. As the thirty second speaker in the

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Speaker 1: Australian lower House, Dick, who has been the Labor member

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Speaker 1: for the Queensland electorate of Oxley since twenty sixteen, will

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Speaker 1: chair the House's meetings and ensure that they're conducted in

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Speaker 1: an orderly fashion.

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Speaker 2: Manly coach Des Hasla has a apologized for not consulting

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Speaker 2: players in the NRL club's decision to include a rainbow

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Speaker 2: symbol on its jersey for this Thursday's game against the Roosters.

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Speaker 2: Seven players have pulled out of the team, citing religious

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Speaker 2: and cultural grounds.

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Speaker 1: And today's good news, US President Joe Biden has announced

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Speaker 1: one billion trees will be planted on burned and dead

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Speaker 1: woodlands in areas of the US impacted by wildfires. Now,

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Speaker 1: this tree planting is going to happen, particularly in areas

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Speaker 1: which are too damaged for the trees to regenerate by themselves.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot of trees.

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Speaker 2: Pope Francis, who is the head of the Catholic Church,

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Speaker 2: has apologized to Canada's indigenous people this week. To understand

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Speaker 2: a bit more about this story, Sam, let's start with

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Speaker 2: who's who? And I don't feel like the Pope really

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Speaker 2: needs an introduction, but can you just contextualize why it

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Speaker 2: is we're talking about him today?

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Speaker 1: Sure? So, the current head of the Roman Catholic Church

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Speaker 1: is Pope Francis. He's Argentinian born and his full name

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Speaker 1: is Jorge Mario Bogoglio and he became the first ever

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Speaker 1: pope from South America when he was elected in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: The reason he's in the news today is in relation

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Speaker 1: to some really troubling parts of Canada's past. Canada operated

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Speaker 1: residential boarding schools from the eighteen eighties up until nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety six, which were used to assimilate Indigenous children into

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Speaker 1: white Canadian society. But more and more the world has

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Speaker 1: been learning about the atrocities committed against the children in

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Speaker 1: their care. Thousands of unmarked graves have been discovered on

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Speaker 1: the former grounds of these schools. We've done posts about

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Speaker 1: it as these graves have been discovered over the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years, and those who attended them were forbidden

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Speaker 1: from speaking their own languages or practicing any indigenous cultural customs. Now,

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Speaker 1: most of these schools were run by Roman Catholic congregations,

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Speaker 1: meaning that the Roman Catholic Church and by extension, the

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Speaker 1: Pope who's the leader of that church, were associated with them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now tell me about the apology that we

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Speaker 2: heard from the Pope.

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Speaker 1: Francis visited the grounds of a former residential school in

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Speaker 1: the Canadian province of Alberta, where he addressed the indigenous

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Speaker 1: community of Masquchies.

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Speaker 3: I realized too that our meeting today can bring back

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Speaker 3: old memories and wounds. It is rate to remember because

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Speaker 3: forgetting leads to indifference, and as husband said, the opposite

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Speaker 3: of love is not hatred, it is indifference. And the

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Speaker 3: opposite of life is not death, it is indifference.

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Speaker 1: The Pope asked for forgiveness for the evil committed by

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Speaker 1: Christians at the schools and said that the serious investigation

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Speaker 1: must take place for healing to actually occur now. After

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Speaker 1: the apology, which was met with applause from survivors in

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Speaker 1: the audience, he was gifted a traditional headdress by an

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Speaker 1: indigenous leader. The apology marks the start of a week

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Speaker 1: long tour of Canada for the Pope, which will focus

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Speaker 1: on healing and reconciliation with Indigenous people. In Quebec, he'll

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Speaker 1: meet with a delegation of Indigenous people from Eastern Canada,

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Speaker 1: while in nuvernout Hill have a private meeting with former

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Speaker 1: students of the residential schools.

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Speaker 2: And the thing that really sticks out to me as

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Speaker 2: you're saying all of this is that there are some

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Speaker 2: really tragic overlaps between this Canadian experience and what's happened

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Speaker 2: domestically in Australia.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the stolen Generations in Australia lasted from about

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Speaker 1: nineteen ten till nineteen seventy, and this was also where

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Speaker 1: Indigenous children were forcibly removed from their families. Some of

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Speaker 1: these children were taken by white families, while others were

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Speaker 1: placed into institution where neglect was extremely common. And this

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Speaker 1: is something that Canada and Australia clearly have in common.

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Speaker 2: But are there any big differences between the two experiences.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's about when they culminated. So the

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Speaker 1: legislation allowing the stolen generations to happen was repelled by

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Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, but the last residential school in Canada

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Speaker 1: only closed in nineteen ninety six, so this inevitably delayed

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Speaker 1: the process of truth telling, although I have to say

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Speaker 1: that we're still going through that in Australia and many

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Speaker 1: investigations on the Canadian schools have only been published in

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Speaker 1: the last decade. For example, we only have to look

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Speaker 1: to seven years ago in twenty fifteen, where a report

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Speaker 1: was able to confirm almost thirty two hundred deaths at

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Speaker 1: the Canadian residential schools. In the last few years there

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Speaker 1: have been even more discoveries of these unmarked graves and

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Speaker 1: undisclosed causes of death at the schools, and this has

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Speaker 1: all accelerated the calls for reconciliation and healing for Canada's

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Speaker 1: Indigenous people. I guess all of this in turn pushed

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Speaker 1: calls for the Pope to acknowledge the Roman Catholic Church's

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Speaker 1: role in the functioning of the schools forward and that's

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Speaker 1: what he's done this week, and he'll continue to emphasize

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Speaker 1: this while he's on his tour of the country.

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Speaker 2: Here in Australia, we of course had former Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd formally apologized to the Stolen Generations, but there

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Speaker 2: was also an apology from the Catholic Church here in Australia.

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Speaker 1: That's right. In two thousand and one, Pope John Paul

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Speaker 1: the Second apologized for the role of the Catholic Church

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Speaker 1: in the soul generations to Australia's First Nation communities. So

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Speaker 1: there is definitely precedent for the Church taking this sort

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Speaker 1: of position to historical crimes.

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Speaker 2: I think this sort of discussion is really important. We

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Speaker 2: can often talk about stories that are unfolding across the

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Speaker 2: globe as if they are distinct from what happens here

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Speaker 2: at home, but it is important to contextualize these lived

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Speaker 2: experiences as they occur. Domestically in Australia as well as overseas,

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Speaker 2: because as we've pointed out, there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: similarities in the experiences of First Nations communities both in

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Speaker 2: Canada and Australia. That is all we have time for today.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on the Daily OS, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see you tomorrow