1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: The time poor parent who just wants answers. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 3: Now, Hello, this is doctor Justin Coulson. It's so good 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: to have you here. Kel and Lucy are two radio 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 3: announcers at the Light FM in Melbourne, and I recently 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 3: had a chat with them about all things Dad and 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: Father's Day in the lead up to Father's. 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: Day and he joins us, Now the wonderful my icon 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: of parenting and all things family. He hates that doctor 10 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: Justin Coulson, Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. No matter 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: where everyone is listening, how are you going, Justin, Lucy? 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 3: It makes me feel nervous when you say that. I'm 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: feeling nervous. I'm feeling apprehensive, I'm feeling worried. I just 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: don't know if I can live up to it. 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to the other day I was asked, 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: I said, who's your who do you look up to 17 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: for parenting? Who's your icon? And I was like, you 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: know what, doctor Justin Colson. Just I agree with everything 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: he says, Like I'm one of those people. I'm like, yes, 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: Fun thing we love about Justin, though, is yes, he's 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: got his TV shows, he's got these podcasts. He knows 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: all things about parenting. But you do let us know 24 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: justin that you are a mere mortal and sometimes parenting 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: is tough even for you. 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, six kids keep you humble. And Paul and died 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: and died. 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: Well, you know, Kell and I whilst we host a 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: radio show together, we actually got married about a year 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: ago and now together we have five children. So I 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: have four bonus kids. Kel has one bonus kid. So 32 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: we understand what it's like having a massive, massive family. 33 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: And that's what we wanted to chat about really this morning, 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: with Father's Day just around the corner, all things dads 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: and how we can encourage our dads to be kind 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: of the best dads they can be. I mean, we 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: talk a lot in this space when it comes to women. 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: We talk about mothering a lot. Just generally in society, 39 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: we don't really talk as much about men, and I 40 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: think that's to our detriment. 41 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: I've recently had an experience that might highlight what a 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: whole lot of research has been telling us for a 43 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 3: couple of decades now. Traditionally, researchers have mainly looked at mums. 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: Mums are easier to access, mums are more inclined to 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 3: help scientists with their studies. Mum research just happens a 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: lot more. But around about two decades ago, some researchers 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 3: started to ask some hard questions about dads and their importance, 48 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: and they found some incredible things, especially that kids need 49 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: their dads so long as dad can be safe, even 50 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: if we're not in the relationship together. If the relationship 51 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: is split up, kids need their dads. And I could 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 3: talk about all of the different stats and all the 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: different science, but sometimes real life is more helpful than that. 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: Just in the last week or so, missus Happy families. 55 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: Kylie has gone away. She had ten days away. She 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: went to a conference and just had the best time 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: while she was gone, which meant that I was at 58 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: home with the kids. I was working full time, I 59 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: was looking after the kids, doing all the extra curricular stuff, 60 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: looking after the folding and the ironing and the washing 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 3: and the dishes and the cooking, and in other words, 62 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: I was being a parent right. And I'm not looking 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 3: for a metal, although if you have one for me, 64 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: I'll take it. The thing that I wanted to highlight though, 65 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 3: was what I observed, and that is that life is 66 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 3: better when dad is home and involved. Now I know 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: that that's not possible for every family, but we just 68 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: do better when our family is together and we're working together. 69 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: It was just wonderful. I travel a lot for work. 70 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: I'm gone all the time at conferences and giving talks 71 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: all all over the country and even internationally. And to 72 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: have that ten days where I sat at home with 73 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: the kids, worked my tail off, but I was there, 74 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: and I just thought, oh, this kind of feels like 75 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: back in COVID when we all said we're going to 76 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 3: be committed to slowing our lives down, we're going to 77 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: work more together, and we kind of forgot as soon 78 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: as the restrictions lifted and it got chaotic. It just 79 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: it emphasized to me just how important dads are in 80 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: their kids' lives. 81 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: I know when I do my counseling, which I do 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: very often, and during a recent counseling session, I was 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: talking with my counselor and we were talking about the 84 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: fact of relationships between the child and a father, and 85 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: she said to me that a relationship between a dad 86 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: and their children is rely on what the dad is 87 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: willing to do. How the dad is willing to open up, 88 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: how the dad is willing to connect. I'd love to 89 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 2: get your thoughts on that, because I think sometimes dads 90 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: don't know how to dad. Obviously, we learn as we 91 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: go along. Sometimes we inherit some ideas from our own father. 92 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: It's an interesting place to spend some time thinking about, 93 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: especially if you are a father. 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: The one would answer is involvement. Involvement being present, participating 95 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: in life with your kids. I'll give you an example, 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: cal how do you feel about board games? Like if 97 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 3: someone says, hey, dad, let's play Monopoly, do you look 98 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: at them and smile and say, oh, what great idea? 99 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 3: Can't wait for this? 100 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: It depends on the board kid. 101 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: Look, I can pipe up. I'll find him on a 102 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: weekend lying on the floor playing battleships with his kids. 103 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: Ourship is a big one. 104 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 3: The thing for me with board games is let me 105 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: do anything else, get me out of the house, let's 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 3: go and be active. Let's just board games. Stick flaming 107 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 3: bamboo shoots under my fingernails. Before you make me play 108 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: board games. I just can't stand it. But recently we 109 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 3: had while Kylie was away, we had a game of Monopoly. 110 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: The kids really wanted to play, so I side and 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 3: I rolled my eyes and I did all the things 112 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 3: that kids normally do when we asked them to do 113 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: something that they don't want to do. Dragged myself to 114 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 3: the table, sat down, dished out the money, decided that 115 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 3: I had to be the banker, and then we started 116 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: rother dice two and a half days of monopoly. Once 117 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: you start, there's just something delicious about participating in and 118 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: being involved in your kids' lives. It was it was 119 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 3: so much fun. Now again, I can't stand board games, 120 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: but I'm almost getting weepy thinking about how beautiful it 121 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: was to sit around the dining table for about six sessions, 122 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: each lasting at least an hour, hour and a half, 123 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: maybe even longer, across two and a half days as 124 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: we battled through this game of monopoly, and I just 125 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: thought to myself, Wow, I mean, I'm the pairing expert, right, 126 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: I've writen nine books about this stuff, But this is 127 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: what it's about. It's about laying on the trampoline and 128 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: staring at the clouds, or going for a bike ride 129 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 3: around the nearby park or lake and dodging the magpies. 130 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 3: It's about building the cubby house on the lounge room floor. 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 3: It's about the snuggles and the cuddles in bed as 132 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: you read stories and introducing them to the world of Narnia, 133 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: or to the Princess Bride, or to whatever it is 134 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: those things. It's about involvement. It's about connection and the 135 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: kids feeling seen, heard and valued by you. I can't 136 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: think of anything more more precious. 137 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: Than that, doctor, justin while we still have you here. 138 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: We've got Father's Day coming up this weekend, big day 139 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: for dads on Sunday. I think you would be ready 140 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: to speak into how dads can make the day not 141 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: just about them but about their families. Of course it 142 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: is Dad's Day. Maybe they get some burnt toast and 143 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: some soggy cereally in bed. But it's a real opportunity, 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: isn't it to be the sort of dad you want 145 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 2: to be. 146 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it requires intention, set it up ahead of time. 147 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: We've got time now to set the intention and let 148 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: everybody know this Father's Day, whatever you've got planned, we 149 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: want to make sure that we get to spend time together. 150 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: So long as you've got time. There's this cheesy quote. 151 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: It's been around the parenting world for at least four 152 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: or five decades now. I have no idea how to 153 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: attribute it, but it goes like this, to a child, 154 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: love is spelled I'm gonna get weepy Oh. To a child, 155 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: love is spelled T I am. To a child, loves 156 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: pell t me. It's cheesy, it's caught. 157 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: I can't believe that. 158 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: It's made my eyes go a little bit wet. But 159 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: when it comes to Father's Day, let's make sure that 160 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: we allocate the tim It's just so beautiful to be 161 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: able to spend that time. 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Together Doctor Justin. I love I'm not gonna lie. I 163 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: love parental guidance. I was a mad fan of that, 164 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: and I think it is the voyeuristic part of thing. 165 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm to judge parenting from the safety of your own 166 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: house and scream at the TV and then also learn 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: I did love it. But one thing I loved on 168 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: all the series so far is you always come with stats. 169 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: So it's not just like I remember in season one. 170 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: You weren't just like, don't smack your kids, it's bad. 171 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: You were like you had statistical evidence. You always have 172 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: all this empirical statistical evidence that backs up everything. I 173 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: love all the data you have. So when it comes 174 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: to dads and new findings and data, what have you 175 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: got for us? What is the science showing us? 176 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: Okay, let's break this down. We can talk about how 177 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: dad's benefit the family. We'll talk about how dads benefit 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: their children specifically, but I also want to talk about 179 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 3: how dad being pre benefits both mum and dad being 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: present actually benefits him. So we'll go through the fall. 181 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: Let's start with the family. Just a couple of things 182 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: off the top of my head. Research shows that when 183 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 3: dad is present, the family tends to have there's a 184 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: greater income, high levels of family income, reduced risk of poverty, 185 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 3: and it gives the family the flexibility that they need 186 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: because everyone's not stressed all the time, so you've got 187 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: a little bit of margin. There's less time pressure, so 188 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 3: the family feels different. The family feels better when we've 189 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: got a well functioning, happy, contributing father. The benefits to 190 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: the kids, though, have listened to this, and I've got 191 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: a list here. Reduced rates of prematurity and infant mortality. 192 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: This is even before the baby's born, less crying as newborns. Now. 193 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 3: I know some people are saying, oh my baby cried 194 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: a lot, but we're talking about on average. There are 195 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: fewer academic challenges, children have reduced risk taking behavior. There's 196 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: lower delinquency and adolescence. There are fewer behavioral challenges. There 197 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: are a fewer mental health challenges. There's increased physical activity levels, 198 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: less substance use and abuse, better social functioning, and fewer 199 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 3: romantic relationship problems. Reduced risk of early sexual experiences and 200 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 3: teen pregnancy. And children with both parents present and a 201 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: dad specifically involved in his kids' lives, those kids have 202 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: increased earning potential as adults. 203 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: Wow. 204 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: Benefits to list, Benefits to mum. Mums have fewer health problems, 205 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 3: ability to offer high quality parenting, more time apparently for 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: leisure activities, although a lot of people are going to 207 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: say no, but imagine if dad wasn't there, And typically 208 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: we see increased mental and emotional wellbeing. But for dad, 209 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: this is what I love. Greater engagement in service organizations, 210 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 3: improved diet and physical activity, decreased risky behaviors, less alcohol use, 211 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 3: and strengthened intergenerational family ties. Across the board. Everybody benefits 212 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 3: when fathers are involved in their kids' lives, even if 213 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 3: they're not living in the same house. 214 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's big, isn't it. It is big. And I 215 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of people out there in single 216 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: parent homes, and I know they sometimes find those father 217 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: figures in other places, which is beautiful, like uncle step 218 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: up and grandfathers and friends can come around kids if 219 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: the biological father isn't there for some other reason. 220 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: Justin it's been a pleasure to be able to catch 221 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: up with you. Thank you so much for all your time. 222 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 2: You're a very busy individual, and I know everybody is 223 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: trying to get a little bit of wisdom out of 224 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: you when it comes to being a parent. But we 225 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: have it on good authority. 226 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Little Bertie tells us it's going to be a very 227 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: special Father's Day for. 228 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: You for the not too distant future. 229 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: You have a very good source. My eldest daughter and 230 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: her husband are expecting their first baby in about two 231 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 3: maybe three weeks, so I'm about to become a grandpa. 232 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: What are you going to be called? Do you know 233 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: what you're going to call yourself yet? Is it Poppy? 234 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: Is it gramps? Is it grampy? 235 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: I have no idea, no idea at all, and I'm 236 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 3: fine with any of it. So long as I get 237 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 3: to nurse that little baby and cuddle it and tickle 238 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: it and love it like crazy, That's kind of all 239 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 3: I care about. 240 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: Do you know what will be very I think incredible 241 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: for you you to watch. We'll be watching your daughter 242 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: parent that child using so many of the things she's 243 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: learned from you. Like how amazing will that be? Like? 244 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: That'll be full circle watching your parenting now affect your grandchild. 245 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: I suspect I'm going to bite my lip more than once, 246 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 3: but we'll see how we go. That was Lucy and 247 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: Kel breakfast announcers at the Light FM in Melbourne, talking 248 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 3: all things Father's Day. Our Happy Family's podcast is produced 249 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: by Justin Ruland from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce to our 250 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 3: executive producer. For more and fo about making your family 251 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: happier as always. Visit Happy families dot com dot you 252 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: and check out our upcoming Father's Day webinar. 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