1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Already and this is the Daily This is the Daily OS. Oh, 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: now it makes sense. 3 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily oas it's Wednesday, 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 2: the thirtieth of July. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm Emma Gillespie, I'm Billy fitz Simon's. 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 2: In case you missed it, the Coalition is divided over 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: net zero. Former Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce has this week 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: introduced a bill to scrap Australia's legal commitment to reach 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: net zero emissions by twenty fifty and that move has 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: exposed some pretty deep divisions within the Coalition, who are 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: now split over their climate policy. Joyce's push comes as 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: Liberal branches in Western Australia and South Australia vote to 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: abandon net zero commitments, disagreeing with other parts of the 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Liberal Party who want progressive climate goals. Now, this all 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: comes against the backdrop of a visit from the UN's 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: top climate diplomat, who is in the country this week, 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: urging Australian officials to set more ambitious climate targets. Today, 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: we are going to unpack the debate over net zero 19 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: and what all of this means for the Coalition. It's 20 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: climate stance and Australia's climate goals. 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: More broadly, I have so many questions over this, but 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: before you explain it all to us, here is a 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: quick message from today's sponsor, and I want to start 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: with the basics. So, as you said today, we are 25 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: talking about the coalition's disagreements about net zero and this 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: all started with Barnaby Joyce introducing this private member's bill. 27 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Just for anyone who might not be familiar with him, 28 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: or who might need a refresher, who is Barnaby Joyce? 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So Barnaby Joyce is a National's Party MP. So 30 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: the Nationals forms the coalition with the Liberal Party. But 31 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: you might be familiar with Barnaby Joyce because he used 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: to be the leader of the National Party. He's also 33 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: a fairly prominent character, I would say in Australian politics. 34 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, there have been a few high profile incidents that 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: have involved him that have meant that he's kind of 36 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: gained this national prominence that perhaps not all National MPs 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: or national leaders. 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: Even get exactly. But Barnaby Joyce is no longer the 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: leader of the National's Party. He is still an MP though, 40 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: so he's the Member for New England, which is a 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 2: really large electorate in Country New South Wales that covers 42 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: towns including Tamworth and Armadale, and Barnaby Joyce really kind 43 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: of platforms himself as a leader for Australia's regional communities. 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: Yes, and so he has introduced this bill. 45 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: What is it that's the million dollar question? 46 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Really? 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: On Monday, Barnaby Joyce introduced what's known as a private 48 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: member's bill to the House of Representatives. Now, a private 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: member's bill is basically a draft law that isn't introduced 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: by someone in government, which, as you mentioned, Joyce is not. 51 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: He is part of the opposition. So if an opposition 52 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: MP wants to table a proposed piece of legislation, that's 53 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: known as a private member's bill. Now that is exactly 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: what Barnaby Joyce has done. He's introduced a bill that 55 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: would repeal the law binding Australia to reach net zero 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: emissions by twenty fifty. So basically he's proposing a plan 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: to scrap net zero and other related measures, including what's 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: known as the Net Zero Economy Authority that is an 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: independent body tasked with helping workers transition into low emissions 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: industries from the kind of traditional fossil fuels sector etc. 61 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: In a speech to Parliament tabling this legislation, Joyce said 62 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 2: that Australians are being done over by net zero energy policies. 63 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: To use his words, he argued that, quote net zero 64 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: is going to have absolutely no effect on the climate whatsoever. 65 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Okay, before we go any further, do you want to 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: just explain to us what exactly is net zero? Yes? 67 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: So, net zero is an abbreviation for net zero green 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: house gas emissions, and it's a concept or a target 69 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: that basically refers to balancing the amount of greenhouse gases 70 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: we produce with the amount we take out of the atmosphere. 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: So a goal that there will not be more emissions 72 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: created by industries like fossil fuels than the climate targets 73 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: or efforts to remove those emissions from the atmosphere. Yeap. 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,119 Speaker 1: When someone first described net zero to me, they said, 75 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: imagine a bath that is kind of at its brim, 76 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: and so for every bit of water that you want 77 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: to add to the bath, you have to take some 78 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: out in order to make space for the new water. 79 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: Interesting, that's a good one. 80 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that really helped me. That really helped me understand 81 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: net zero. That you have to take out as much 82 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: as you put in so that there's no more overflowing. 83 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 2: It's a balancing action. So in the Albanese Labor government's 84 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: first term, they legislated a plan to achieve net zero 85 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: greenhouse gas emissions by twenty fifty and the plan is 86 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: to do that by transitioning towards renewable energy sources like 87 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: wind and solar and away from fossil fuels. The goal 88 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: didn't just come out of nowhere, though. This is backed 89 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: by UN climate scientists who basically say all countries around 90 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 2: the world need to reduce their emissions faster to limit 91 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: global warming to one point five degrees above pre industrial levels. 92 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: That's the sort of climate benchmark of making sure temperatures 93 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: do not exceed those levels. Going above those levels has 94 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: these kind of bigger picture, long term, frankly disastrous consequences. 95 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: And we also know that above one point five degrees 96 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: of warming has occurred around the world on average for 97 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: back to back months, according to the updates that we 98 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: get from big climate authorities. 99 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so we have Labor who legislated this target to 100 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: achieve net zero by twenty to fifty. I believe that 101 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty two. What was the coalition's stance 102 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: on that bill at the time. 103 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: Well, they did oppose Labour's legislation of net zero by 104 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: twenty fifty. But and I think this is an important nuance, 105 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: the Coalition did go to the last election, so you'll 106 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: remember that wasn't very long ago May this year, pledging 107 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 2: to achieve net zero by twenty fifty. So they opposed 108 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 2: the original legislation, but they went to the most recent 109 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: election saying that they will achieve that target. The important 110 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 2: nuance here, I guess, continuing with that, is that the 111 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: Coalition had a different proposal for how to get there 112 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 2: compared to labor that included nuclear energy, but they didn't 113 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: disagree with the premise of net zero by twenty fifty. 114 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: Got it. So both major parties agree that Australia should 115 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: achieve net zero by twenty fifty. They just have different 116 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: views on how we should get there exactly. But then 117 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: this week Barnaby Joyce, who is part of the Coalition, 118 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: has introduced this bill to remove Australia's legislative target to 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: achieve net zero by twenty fifty. How many times have 120 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: we said that on the podcast already and so that 121 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: gave us a hint that perhaps there's this disagreement within 122 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the coalition about net zero moving forward. 123 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have to remember this comes after the 124 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: coalition had a lot of turmoil in between its historic 125 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: election loss and parliament returning. Just this month, the coalition 126 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 2: broke up. You know, we spoke about it here on 127 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: this podcast. There were a raft of policy measures that 128 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: the Nationals didn't feel they could agree with the Liberals 129 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 2: on and that they wanted to walk away have some 130 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: time apart. Nationals leader David Little Proud and Liberal leader 131 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: Susan Lee came together to work through that. We have 132 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: a coalition back together, back in the forty eighth Parliament. 133 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 2: But it's definitely been a trying time, you could say, 134 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 2: for this major part of Australia's political landscape. 135 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so where does this leave the coalition? Now? Where 136 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: does Barnaby Joyce introducing this leave the federal coalition? 137 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: Well, Susan Lee, the Opposition leader, or rather a spokesperson 138 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: for her, said that Joyce is entitled to put forward 139 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: his private members bill. You know, anyone in the House 140 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: of Reps can do that. That's his prerogative. One thing 141 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: to note though, is that the Liberal Party is currently 142 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: conducting a post election review of all its policies, including 143 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: on energy. As I mentioned, trying to understand that significant 144 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: defeat at the May III election. And you know, although 145 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 2: I said they did go to the last election committing 146 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: to net zero by twenty fifty, they haven't officially said 147 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: that they are going to continue with that pledge moving forward. 148 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: So their stance on the policy is a little bit 149 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: up in the air right now. But a coalition spokesperson 150 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 2: did tell the Daily Os that any new policy from 151 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: the Liberal and National Parties would aim to drive down 152 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: both power bills and emissions, so they're not suggesting that 153 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: they'll abandon climate goals together. But it's a little bit unclear. 154 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Some coalition MPs are backing Barnaby Joyce's push, so that 155 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: includes Liberal MP Garth Hamilton who supported scrapping net zero, 156 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: but others completely disagree. So we've got Victorian Liberal Senator 157 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: Jane Hume who said successive elections had shown Australians have 158 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: voted for stronger action on reducing emissions, suggesting that going 159 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: the other way would only harm the coalition's results at 160 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: the next election. 161 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: Got it, So we know that there is some internal 162 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: disagreement here and we don't know yet what the official 163 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: party position is that still to come. What is Labour's 164 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: view on all this? 165 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: Well, the Government has really seized on these developments to 166 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: question the opposition's commitment to net zero, to climate change 167 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: and climate targets more broadly. So it's worth adding that 168 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: you know, Labor does have a really significant majority in 169 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 2: the lower House, in the House of Representatives, so coalition 170 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: legislation on climate that Labor disagrees with is going to 171 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: be incredibly tough to pass. Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi's office 172 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: has pointed out a contradiction from the coalition, saying that 173 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: even Peter Dutton, to use his words, backed net zero, 174 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: Peter Dutton being of course the former Opposition leader, but 175 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 2: Albanezi said Susan Lee won't back net zero. Climate Minister 176 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: Chris Bowen has argued that Barnaby Joyce's bill shows internal 177 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 2: divisions what we've touched on Billy. Bowen told Parliament that quote, 178 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: people in rural and regional Australia have the most to 179 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: gain from jobs and investments created by net zero, So 180 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: Labor is clearly trying to paint this kind of image 181 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 2: of a very fractured coalition that it is divided on 182 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: climate policy, and I'm sure that we will be hearing 183 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: a lot more of that sentiment from Labor going forward. 184 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: And then just to end, in terms of this private 185 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: member's bill that Barnaby Joyce has introduced, I mean, I 186 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: think it's fair to say that's not going to pass. 187 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it won't have enough support. And if the Coalition 188 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: are united on wanting to ditch net zero, not only 189 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: does Joyce not have the full support of the Coalition, 190 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: but he also needs the support of the Government, which 191 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: obviously he doesn't have. That being said, though, you know, 192 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: I think that this is a discussion that we'll expect 193 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: to hear a lot more of over the next three years, 194 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: particularly if the Coalition thinks that less ambitious climate targets 195 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: might appeal to more Australian voters. I think the juries 196 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: out on that for right now, but there is a 197 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: global trend of you know, large democracies take the US 198 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: walking back some of their climate targets. 199 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: It's one that we will keep a very close eye on, 200 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: as well as all of the different policies that the 201 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 1: Coalition is set to announce I presume within the next 202 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: year or so after this review takes place. 203 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well exactly. And also I just want to add 204 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 2: that the federal government has to unveil its twenty thirty 205 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: five target by September this year. So there is a 206 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: lot of policy conversation going on at the moment. There 207 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 2: is a top climate chief from the United Nations here 208 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: in Australia right now. His name is Simon Steel and 209 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: he is essentially arguing for exactly the opposite of what 210 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce is pushing for. So Steele has called these 211 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: talks around the government's twenty thirty five target as a 212 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: defining moment for Australia. He said that the government has 213 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: quote one shot to build a blueprint that protects ossie 214 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: workers and businesses by preparing them for a fast changing 215 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: global economy. So this is the UN Climate Chief who 216 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: also gave an address to business leaders really arguing that 217 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: strong climate measures have strong economic rewards. That's kind of 218 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: been his big push here this week. So Simon Steele 219 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 2: said that half measures will destroy property in infrastructure, hammer households, 220 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: bankrupt regions and punch holes in public budgets. While he 221 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: said real action opens the door to real leadership and 222 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 2: big rewards for what he called this ambitious, capable country. 223 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: Yet it's a conversation that's definitely going to be here. 224 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: Is that a pun. I didn't mean it to be 225 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: a pun, but I know that Australia is also bidding 226 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: to host COP thirty one, which is the UN Climate 227 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: conference that happens every year. They are hoping to host that. Well, 228 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Australia is hoping to post that next that year, So 229 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: another one to keep a very close eye on, and 230 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: the daly Os will be there every step of the way. 231 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: Thanks Am, thank you, Billy, and thank you so much 232 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: for listening to this episode of the Daily Os. We'll 233 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: be back this afternoon with your evening headlines, but until then, 234 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: have a great day. 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