Speaker 1: I'll just leave the room. Do you want me to
Speaker 1: just leave now? Okay, I'll leave now. Michelle the Witch
Speaker 1: of Moon's Lane and Moira Major How to Witch Bitch.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another one Happened with My Voice.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of How the Witch Bach Michelle
Speaker 2: the Witch.
Speaker 1: Of Moon's Lane? Hello, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2: Hey? Hey?
Speaker 1: Hey? Are you meeting you here?
Speaker 2: Now? Before we get in today's episode, we've got lots
Speaker 2: of comments and feedback to run through. Today we're going
Speaker 2: to talk about shadow work, which is really interesting and
Speaker 2: so we're going to really delve into that.
Speaker 1: But we'd like to say hello too.
Speaker 2: From TikTok Amy Karina s Page ruf Fada, ru Fader, Rufader,
Speaker 2: I do apologize, Sandra Martin and Alex on Instagram, Crimson
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Speaker 1: That sounds like a fantastic breakfast show.
Speaker 2: Missy b g Slee and Missus stew Tattoo.
Speaker 1: Apparently everyone has to rhyme I love this. This is great.
Speaker 2: Someone actually sent us a message as well. Crow Lovers
Speaker 2: Daily It says I don't have my ducks in a row.
Speaker 1: I have crows and they're at a pagan rave. That
Speaker 1: looks good.
Speaker 2: It looks like something we could definitely do now. Also,
Speaker 2: we've got an interesting Randall situation. So in the past
Speaker 2: episodes we've talked about questions from someone called Randall. Now
Speaker 2: someone has sent us a message. Surprisingly, Randall has sent
Speaker 2: us a message. We're going to call this Randall double
Speaker 2: r because that's what it seems like. So made a
Speaker 2: comment that we were soul sisters. A day with you
Speaker 2: would be a whole new world.
Speaker 1: Yes, it would.
Speaker 2: We don't actually spend full days together because we're exhausted.
Speaker 2: They left to comment on Spotify and wanted to just
Speaker 2: say that I'm a female named Randall. I was named
Speaker 2: after my dad, so I've always been assumed as a male.
Speaker 2: The male which Randall asked for meditation help, I asked
Speaker 2: for guidance help. So we've got a double up of Randal's,
Speaker 2: assuming that we only had one Randal. So she has said,
Speaker 2: my question is if you could clarify how to tell
Speaker 2: if you are a witch or a muggle interested in witchcraft.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 2: Thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, the thing is is you don't have to
Speaker 3: have a line of witchcraft. It's just if that's what
Speaker 3: you feel you're attuned to, if you're attuned to nature
Speaker 3: just naturally going to be gravitating towards witchcraft. You don't
Speaker 3: have to be born into a lot of people, are there.
Speaker 3: A lot of people come through spiritual lines and families
Speaker 3: and things like that, and a lot of people just
Speaker 3: wake up one day and decide that they have an
Speaker 3: affinity with Mother Earth and they want to come back
Speaker 3: and put the mother. You know, religions really patriarchal, it's
Speaker 3: about the Father, and a lot of people wanting to
Speaker 3: come home to Mother. They're wanting to come home to sisterhood.
Speaker 3: They're wanting to come home to you know, looking after
Speaker 3: the earth and having some control over their lives. A
Speaker 3: lot of people will lost control, especially through COVID when
Speaker 3: you know, we had a lot of our normal day
Speaker 3: to day things taken away from us. And especially the
Speaker 3: young ones, like the young gen zs that are out there,
Speaker 3: they're all really falling in and finding witchcraft because they're
Speaker 3: finding that this is something that they have some control
Speaker 3: over how they manifest in their life. And so they're
Speaker 3: just coming back to the old And we never went anywhere.
Speaker 3: We might have gone underground for a bit, but you know,
Speaker 3: we're coming out in forces now more and more of
Speaker 3: us are wanting to find mother, and.
Speaker 2: It also seems that more and more people are believing
Speaker 2: in it experiencing it.
Speaker 4: They're more open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: Well that's interesting what you just said, though, because in
Speaker 2: her message she actually said that she doesn't have anyone
Speaker 2: close to her to lean in for guidance and mentorship.
Speaker 2: Mother was Catholic, father disowned her after Mom died, and
Speaker 2: then also brother is Christian Catholic. I've never really felt
Speaker 2: like I fit in the world, and I still don't.
Speaker 2: I'm strugging to find my place in the world and
Speaker 2: where I fit in. I think you found it.
Speaker 3: And it's interesting how a lot of people I always
Speaker 3: think the Internet is halfway, you know, it always came in.
Speaker 3: It's always that person that into a conversation halfway and
Speaker 3: then bullies you into believing that they know what it is.
Speaker 3: They don't go all the way back if you actually
Speaker 3: go all the way back. For a long time, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of Christian witches. There was a lot
Speaker 3: of witches around that were coming from there trying to
Speaker 3: get the Pagans into the churches, and so for a
Speaker 3: very long time there was a crossover of rituals that
Speaker 3: were done by Christians that were still bringing the old
Speaker 3: gods and still bringing and manifesting. So a lot of
Speaker 3: people that come in and say, oh, that's witchcraft, go
Speaker 3: into a lot of the old churches and you'll see
Speaker 3: the pentagram. And the pentagram is not or the pentacle
Speaker 3: is not something that has actually should be feared. It's
Speaker 3: basically the top of it is the spirit, and the
Speaker 3: other four points, which is the five stars, are the
Speaker 3: four elements. And so if you believe in astrology and
Speaker 3: you even look at your stars, you're actually a pagan
Speaker 3: because that's what they believed in. They followed the stars,
Speaker 3: the moon, the cycles of life, the earth and wind, air, firewater,
Speaker 3: all those things. That's what the pentagram is. And in
Speaker 3: old churches they actually have the pentagrams up on the windows.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Randall. Double a double.
Speaker 2: Ex rain fit for Fuji Fuji, I think little Fiji.
Speaker 1: I mean she's getting fit for Fiji.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure has just said that recently refound witchcraft
Speaker 2: during a difficult time in my life, finding your pod,
Speaker 2: I feel it was meant to be.
Speaker 1: I'm learning so much.
Speaker 3: I thought she was going to say she was trying
Speaker 3: our weight loss spell because we're losing weight.
Speaker 4: She's just refusing to drink that shit.
Speaker 1: That's a losing way. You don't know what she's talking about.
Speaker 3: Going back to that, that was her fault. That was
Speaker 3: she made it all chunky. No, you were in charge
Speaker 3: of the blending and then said you drink it. I
Speaker 3: drank it and I smiled. I had crap all through
Speaker 3: my teeth.
Speaker 2: Actually, it was very funny. It's one of my favorite parts.
Speaker 2: All Right, we did love all your comments. We read
Speaker 2: all of them as well, So make sure that you
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Speaker 2: who loves spells, taro and stupidness. In today's episode, we
Speaker 2: are going to talk about shadow work. This is a
Speaker 2: practice of all witches.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it should be actually a practice of everybody regardless,
Speaker 3: because it's actually got a lot of antalytical psychology in it.
Speaker 3: So cul John, which was the founder, described shadow as
Speaker 3: the unconscious part of the personality that contains everything we've
Speaker 3: been taught is either acceptable or unsafe, or unacceptable or
Speaker 3: unsafe to express. So in modern witchcraft, shadow work is
Speaker 3: a deeper healing magic directed towards inwoods. So it's about
Speaker 3: looking at your traumas looking at the things.
Speaker 1: That you're hiding.
Speaker 3: You're hiding so it's the self that you often don't
Speaker 3: want to bring into the light. So it could be jealousy,
Speaker 3: it could be trauma from your past. It could be sexuality, sexuality,
Speaker 3: It could be healing emotional wounds. You know, you might
Speaker 3: pretend that you've gotten over a relationship or the fact
Speaker 3: that you know you don't have a great relationship with
Speaker 3: your mother or your father, you know, emotional childhood and loss,
Speaker 3: all of that, and so it really is a spiritual
Speaker 3: practice that you know, especially with people that are doing
Speaker 3: healing or doing the work that I do. Shadow work
Speaker 3: is very important because how can you heal someone else
Speaker 3: if you're actually working where you haven't healed yourself. So
Speaker 3: it is bringing things up. And often I find because
Speaker 3: a lot of people say, well, I've worked on that.
Speaker 3: You know, I've worked on that. I don't have any
Speaker 3: shadow work. But then you'll go somewhere and you know,
Speaker 3: you meet that person and that person there's something about
Speaker 3: that person that's really giving you the X, and you
Speaker 3: don't know what it is. Find out because that is
Speaker 3: really a good way of finding out what still you
Speaker 3: need to work on in.
Speaker 1: Yourself, and I guess there's a freedom to it as well.
Speaker 2: I think now that you've explained it, I actually think
Speaker 2: that it is something that I actually practiced.
Speaker 1: A number of years ago.
Speaker 2: I had a very toxic relationship with someone in my life,
Speaker 2: and whenever the phone would ring, I would feel sick.
Speaker 2: Being around this person made me feel very uncomfortable. It
Speaker 2: was not a relationship that I could just sever It
Speaker 2: was something that was constantly there. And I'm talking like
Speaker 2: years and years and years and years and years. So
Speaker 2: that was always making me feel sick that just knowing
Speaker 2: that person existed. At one stage, I met up with
Speaker 2: this person and I looked at them from different eyes,
Speaker 2: and I looked at them from a different way, and
Speaker 2: then I felt pity for them for actually the person
Speaker 2: that they are. And it's like it cured me. And
Speaker 2: so whenever I see that name or think about that
Speaker 2: or tell I don't have all of the anger and
Speaker 2: hatred because that's working on.
Speaker 1: But there's such a freedom to it. Everyone should be
Speaker 1: doing this, but.
Speaker 3: A lot of people are too frightened because they think
Speaker 3: that if once they open up pattern Dora's box, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe it's too hard to shut that type of thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, it's good to work on your inner
Speaker 3: self and just sort of see and sometimes things will
Speaker 3: come up and you don't even think that.
Speaker 4: You think, oh, sure I've healed from that, and then
Speaker 4: it comes with me. I know I haven't healed from that, and.
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with that. You can continue to do
Speaker 2: it now there are actually somebody.
Speaker 4: Remember not to react, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Take it and go okay, and this is making me
Speaker 3: feel bad, But don't react in that moment because you
Speaker 3: might say something or do something that you'll later regret.
Speaker 3: Just sit with it for a while and if you
Speaker 3: can meditate on it and then work out why is
Speaker 3: that affecting me.
Speaker 4: Then we can sort of move forward with it.
Speaker 2: Well. The witchcraft obviously something that you can work on.
Speaker 2: Also journaling as well as another one. So what is
Speaker 2: it that you're trying to hide? What is that you're
Speaker 2: you still feel triggered and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So identifying those triggers, are looking at your reactions and
Speaker 2: also what is causing you that anger or that fear
Speaker 2: or that tension, and then recognizing I think you said
Speaker 2: this before criticizing other people's flaws means that you're actually.
Speaker 4: You're a mirror. You're a mirror.
Speaker 3: So if someone comes up to you and they say,
Speaker 3: you know, nasty things to you, it's got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with you.
Speaker 4: It's all about them.
Speaker 3: They're just reacting to some sort of trauma. And when
Speaker 3: you're actually clued up on it and you realize that,
Speaker 3: when you'll go out and you'll just sort of pay
Speaker 3: attention because there'll be a lot of people come up
Speaker 3: and say things, and then you know, normally you'd take
Speaker 3: it on board and go, yeah, that was a really
Speaker 3: nasty thing you said about me. But then when you
Speaker 3: realize that it's got nothing to do with you, that's
Speaker 3: their problem that they need to work on, it is
Speaker 3: very freeing because it frees you up with other people's bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just thinking about the cast of Maths.
Speaker 3: So it's really funny because I don't know, but it
Speaker 3: was it last week we had that Beck and she
Speaker 3: was a classic lovely girl. She is a lovely girl,
Speaker 3: but I do believe that she was going through trauma
Speaker 3: herself and her shadow that's a classic shadow in motion.
Speaker 3: She came out and she was putting fires and everybody's
Speaker 3: relationships that that's actually shadow work in motion, someone that
Speaker 3: hasn't healed from trauma, and it's not necessarily the trauma
Speaker 3: of the person that's giving it to her.
Speaker 4: On the show, there's been trauma from.
Speaker 3: Either past relationships where she's felt invisible or not seen
Speaker 3: or not heard, or not worthy or not beautiful or
Speaker 3: whatever that is.
Speaker 2: Isn't that also because didn't she go through she was
Speaker 2: engaged for a period of time and then didn't get
Speaker 2: married because you knew that she would divorce this person.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I'm not sure the story.
Speaker 2: But also she's lost a great deal of weight. Ah,
Speaker 2: because always an interesting all right. So then we were
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 4: Matt, So it's interesting.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting thing when you've actually dealt with someone
Speaker 3: or something and you've always maybe been a larger person
Speaker 3: in life and you go and lose a lot of weight,
Speaker 3: you still can see yourself in the mirror as still
Speaker 3: that yes, right, yeah, because I went the other way
Speaker 3: because I was really skinny and then I got really
Speaker 3: fat and I still look myself in the mirror and
Speaker 3: I just see the skinny fucking sea bitch. Look I'm
Speaker 3: back at me, That's all I see.
Speaker 2: You should be practicing what you preach, and that you
Speaker 2: know the positivity of looking at yourself and seeing it's skinny, bitch,
Speaker 2: I do good.
Speaker 3: Do it every day I'm talking to myself. I've been
Speaker 3: losing weight, were losing weight.
Speaker 4: But I feel like you know, you've got a lot
Speaker 4: of people do.
Speaker 3: They don't work it out, they don't see what's going on,
Speaker 3: and they just project it and they try and make
Speaker 3: other people's lives miserable because they're miserable. And at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, when you actually are aware of it,
Speaker 3: it's interesting how many people don't get under your skin anymore.
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm going to try that this week. I'm
Speaker 2: going to try some shadow work this week. God knows
Speaker 2: what's going to happen. I apologize for any messages send
Speaker 2: you the next week, particularly after some prosecco.
Speaker 1: Sugar free. Sugar free. All right, let's check the stars,
Speaker 1: shall we?
Speaker 3: Oky dokie? All right, let's just check the stars. So
Speaker 3: Aries this week asks you to slow down before charging ahead.
Speaker 3: A pause now brings clarity later, focus on intention action
Speaker 3: rather than reaction. Taurus, comfort and stability call to you,
Speaker 3: but growth sits just outside your routine, say yes to
Speaker 3: something slightly unfamiliar. It may open new opportunities. Gemini communication
Speaker 3: is your superpower this week. Honest conversations, clear misunderstandings, up
Speaker 3: and strengthen important connections. Cancer emotional boundaries are key, protect
Speaker 3: your energy and prioritize rest. Not everything requires your nurturing attention.
Speaker 3: Right now, Leo, you're stepping back into confidence. Creative ideas
Speaker 3: or passions reignite, making this a powerful time to express
Speaker 3: yourself boldly. Virgo organization brings peace of mind, so clearing
Speaker 3: physical or emotional clutter helps you regain control and feel grounded.
Speaker 3: Libra balance returns after recent uncertainty. Trust your intuition when
Speaker 3: making decisions.
Speaker 4: You already know what the right path is for you.
Speaker 3: Scorpio transformation is underway, so let go of what feels
Speaker 3: heavy or outdated to make space for deeper emotional renewal. Sagittarius,
Speaker 3: adventure doesn't mean no travel. It means lots of travel,
Speaker 3: so exploring new ideas or learning something new will always
Speaker 3: refresh this week, and new perspectives are coming in Capricorn.
Speaker 3: Focus on long term goals rather than immediate pressure. Steady
Speaker 3: progress now builds a lasting success. Aquarius connection and community
Speaker 3: play an important role. Collaboration or meaningful conversations bring inspiration. Pisces,
Speaker 3: your intuition is heightened, so pay attention to dreams, signs,
Speaker 3: and inner nudges. They're guiding you towards alignment. And that
Speaker 3: is your stars for the week.
Speaker 1: Michelle, you okay? Your stars were perfect? Was it because
Speaker 1: I was out of the room, was making a salad?
Speaker 1: Yeah you're yeah, yeah, well done. Thank you can do
Speaker 1: it again. They'll be good.
Speaker 2: Good. Jed, I'll just leave the room. Do you want
Speaker 2: me to just leave now? Okay, I'll leave now. All right,
Speaker 2: That is it for today. I've got to go. Thanks
Speaker 2: for joining us. Be sure to share the podcast with
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Speaker 2: as well, and maybe discuss shadow work with us as well.
Speaker 1: If you're working on this a paranormal?
Speaker 4: Has anyone got any normal? Especially if you're at the
Speaker 4: Gold Coast.
Speaker 3: And you want me to come and investigate it and
Speaker 3: chase them out?
Speaker 4: I think that'd be fun.
Speaker 1: If you want Michelle to do that, she can do it.
Speaker 4: Laurie, you got to come with me. You're my partner
Speaker 4: in crime. I can't do it without you.
Speaker 1: Busy, you're not busy for ghosts. I had all right.
Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you. Thank you, Michelle Hi.
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