WEBVTT - Shadow Work - how to heal yourself and help others

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just leave the room. Do you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>just leave now? Okay, I'll leave now. Michelle the Witch

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<v Speaker 1>of Moon's Lane and Moira Major How to Witch Bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another one Happened with My Voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to another episode of How the Witch Bach Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>the Witch.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Moon's Lane? Hello, Hey, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey? Are you meeting you here?

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<v Speaker 2>Now? Before we get in today's episode, we've got lots

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<v Speaker 2>of comments and feedback to run through. Today we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about shadow work, which is really interesting and

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<v Speaker 2>so we're going to really delve into that.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'd like to say hello too.

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<v Speaker 2>From TikTok Amy Karina s Page ruf Fada, ru Fader, Rufader,

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<v Speaker 2>I do apologize, Sandra Martin and Alex on Instagram, Crimson

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<v Speaker 2>and Dink.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like a fantastic breakfast show.

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<v Speaker 2>Missy b g Slee and Missus stew Tattoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently everyone has to rhyme I love this. This is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone actually sent us a message as well. Crow Lovers

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<v Speaker 2>Daily It says I don't have my ducks in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I have crows and they're at a pagan rave. That

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<v Speaker 1>looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like something we could definitely do now. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got an interesting Randall situation. So in the past

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<v Speaker 2>episodes we've talked about questions from someone called Randall. Now

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<v Speaker 2>someone has sent us a message. Surprisingly, Randall has sent

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<v Speaker 2>us a message. We're going to call this Randall double

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<v Speaker 2>r because that's what it seems like. So made a

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<v Speaker 2>comment that we were soul sisters. A day with you

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<v Speaker 2>would be a whole new world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it would.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't actually spend full days together because we're exhausted.

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<v Speaker 2>They left to comment on Spotify and wanted to just

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<v Speaker 2>say that I'm a female named Randall. I was named

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<v Speaker 2>after my dad, so I've always been assumed as a male.

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<v Speaker 2>The male which Randall asked for meditation help, I asked

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<v Speaker 2>for guidance help. So we've got a double up of Randal's,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming that we only had one Randal. So she has said,

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<v Speaker 2>my question is if you could clarify how to tell

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<v Speaker 2>if you are a witch or a muggle interested in witchcraft.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, the thing is is you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>have a line of witchcraft. It's just if that's what

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<v Speaker 3>you feel you're attuned to, if you're attuned to nature

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<v Speaker 3>just naturally going to be gravitating towards witchcraft. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have to be born into a lot of people, are there.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people come through spiritual lines and families

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<v Speaker 3>and things like that, and a lot of people just

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<v Speaker 3>wake up one day and decide that they have an

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<v Speaker 3>affinity with Mother Earth and they want to come back

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<v Speaker 3>and put the mother. You know, religions really patriarchal, it's

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<v Speaker 3>about the Father, and a lot of people wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>come home to Mother. They're wanting to come home to sisterhood.

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<v Speaker 3>They're wanting to come home to you know, looking after

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<v Speaker 3>the earth and having some control over their lives. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people will lost control, especially through COVID when

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we had a lot of our normal day

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<v Speaker 3>to day things taken away from us. And especially the

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<v Speaker 3>young ones, like the young gen zs that are out there,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all really falling in and finding witchcraft because they're

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<v Speaker 3>finding that this is something that they have some control

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<v Speaker 3>over how they manifest in their life. And so they're

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<v Speaker 3>just coming back to the old And we never went anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>We might have gone underground for a bit, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're coming out in forces now more and more of

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<v Speaker 3>us are wanting to find mother, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It also seems that more and more people are believing

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<v Speaker 2>in it experiencing it.

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<v Speaker 4>They're more open.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's interesting what you just said, though, because in

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<v Speaker 2>her message she actually said that she doesn't have anyone

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<v Speaker 2>close to her to lean in for guidance and mentorship.

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<v Speaker 2>Mother was Catholic, father disowned her after Mom died, and

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<v Speaker 2>then also brother is Christian Catholic. I've never really felt

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<v Speaker 2>like I fit in the world, and I still don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm strugging to find my place in the world and

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<v Speaker 2>where I fit in. I think you found it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting how a lot of people I always

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<v Speaker 3>think the Internet is halfway, you know, it always came in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always that person that into a conversation halfway and

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<v Speaker 3>then bullies you into believing that they know what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't go all the way back if you actually

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<v Speaker 3>go all the way back. For a long time, there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot of Christian witches. There was a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of witches around that were coming from there trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get the Pagans into the churches, and so for a

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<v Speaker 3>very long time there was a crossover of rituals that

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<v Speaker 3>were done by Christians that were still bringing the old

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<v Speaker 3>gods and still bringing and manifesting. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people that come in and say, oh, that's witchcraft, go

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<v Speaker 3>into a lot of the old churches and you'll see

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<v Speaker 3>the pentagram. And the pentagram is not or the pentacle

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<v Speaker 3>is not something that has actually should be feared. It's

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<v Speaker 3>basically the top of it is the spirit, and the

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<v Speaker 3>other four points, which is the five stars, are the

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<v Speaker 3>four elements. And so if you believe in astrology and

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<v Speaker 3>you even look at your stars, you're actually a pagan

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<v Speaker 3>because that's what they believed in. They followed the stars,

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<v Speaker 3>the moon, the cycles of life, the earth and wind, air, firewater,

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<v Speaker 3>all those things. That's what the pentagram is. And in

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<v Speaker 3>old churches they actually have the pentagrams up on the windows.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you, Randall. Double a double.

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<v Speaker 2>Ex rain fit for Fuji Fuji, I think little Fiji.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean she's getting fit for Fiji.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure has just said that recently refound witchcraft

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<v Speaker 2>during a difficult time in my life, finding your pod,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it was meant to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm learning so much.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought she was going to say she was trying

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<v Speaker 3>our weight loss spell because we're losing weight.

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<v Speaker 4>She's just refusing to drink that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a losing way. You don't know what she's talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Going back to that, that was her fault. That was

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<v Speaker 3>she made it all chunky. No, you were in charge

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<v Speaker 3>of the blending and then said you drink it. I

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<v Speaker 3>drank it and I smiled. I had crap all through

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<v Speaker 3>my teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, it was very funny. It's one of my favorite parts.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, we did love all your comments. We read

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<v Speaker 2>all of them as well, So make sure that you

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<v Speaker 2>please continue to share our podcasts with those around you

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<v Speaker 2>who loves spells, taro and stupidness. In today's episode, we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to talk about shadow work. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>practice of all witches.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it should be actually a practice of everybody regardless,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's actually got a lot of antalytical psychology in it.

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<v Speaker 3>So cul John, which was the founder, described shadow as

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<v Speaker 3>the unconscious part of the personality that contains everything we've

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<v Speaker 3>been taught is either acceptable or unsafe, or unacceptable or

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<v Speaker 3>unsafe to express. So in modern witchcraft, shadow work is

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<v Speaker 3>a deeper healing magic directed towards inwoods. So it's about

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<v Speaker 3>looking at your traumas looking at the things.

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<v Speaker 1>That you're hiding.

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<v Speaker 3>You're hiding so it's the self that you often don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to bring into the light. So it could be jealousy,

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<v Speaker 3>it could be trauma from your past. It could be sexuality, sexuality,

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<v Speaker 3>It could be healing emotional wounds. You know, you might

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<v Speaker 3>pretend that you've gotten over a relationship or the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that you know you don't have a great relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>your mother or your father, you know, emotional childhood and loss,

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<v Speaker 3>all of that, and so it really is a spiritual

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<v Speaker 3>practice that you know, especially with people that are doing

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<v Speaker 3>healing or doing the work that I do. Shadow work

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<v Speaker 3>is very important because how can you heal someone else

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<v Speaker 3>if you're actually working where you haven't healed yourself. So

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<v Speaker 3>it is bringing things up. And often I find because

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people say, well, I've worked on that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've worked on that. I don't have any

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<v Speaker 3>shadow work. But then you'll go somewhere and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you meet that person and that person there's something about

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<v Speaker 3>that person that's really giving you the X, and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what it is. Find out because that is

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<v Speaker 3>really a good way of finding out what still you

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<v Speaker 3>need to work on in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yourself, and I guess there's a freedom to it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think now that you've explained it, I actually think

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<v Speaker 2>that it is something that I actually practiced.

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<v Speaker 1>A number of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a very toxic relationship with someone in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and whenever the phone would ring, I would feel sick.

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<v Speaker 2>Being around this person made me feel very uncomfortable. It

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<v Speaker 2>was not a relationship that I could just sever It

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<v Speaker 2>was something that was constantly there. And I'm talking like

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<v Speaker 2>years and years and years and years and years. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was always making me feel sick that just knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that person existed. At one stage, I met up with

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<v Speaker 2>this person and I looked at them from different eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked at them from a different way, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I felt pity for them for actually the person

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<v Speaker 2>that they are. And it's like it cured me. And

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<v Speaker 2>so whenever I see that name or think about that

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<v Speaker 2>or tell I don't have all of the anger and

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<v Speaker 2>hatred because that's working on.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's such a freedom to it. Everyone should be

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<v Speaker 1>doing this, but.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people are too frightened because they think

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<v Speaker 3>that if once they open up pattern Dora's box, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's too hard to shut that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no, it's good to work on your inner

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<v Speaker 3>self and just sort of see and sometimes things will

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<v Speaker 3>come up and you don't even think that.

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<v Speaker 4>You think, oh, sure I've healed from that, and then

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<v Speaker 4>it comes with me. I know I haven't healed from that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with that. You can continue to do

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<v Speaker 2>it now there are actually somebody.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember not to react, that's the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it and go okay, and this is making me

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<v Speaker 3>feel bad, But don't react in that moment because you

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<v Speaker 3>might say something or do something that you'll later regret.

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<v Speaker 3>Just sit with it for a while and if you

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<v Speaker 3>can meditate on it and then work out why is

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<v Speaker 3>that affecting me.

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<v Speaker 4>Then we can sort of move forward with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. The witchcraft obviously something that you can work on.

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<v Speaker 2>Also journaling as well as another one. So what is

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<v Speaker 2>it that you're trying to hide? What is that you're

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<v Speaker 2>you still feel triggered and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So identifying those triggers, are looking at your reactions and

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<v Speaker 2>also what is causing you that anger or that fear

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<v Speaker 2>or that tension, and then recognizing I think you said

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<v Speaker 2>this before criticizing other people's flaws means that you're actually.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a mirror. You're a mirror.

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<v Speaker 3>So if someone comes up to you and they say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, nasty things to you, it's got nothing to

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<v Speaker 3>do with you.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all about them.

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<v Speaker 3>They're just reacting to some sort of trauma. And when

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<v Speaker 3>you're actually clued up on it and you realize that,

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<v Speaker 3>when you'll go out and you'll just sort of pay

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<v Speaker 3>attention because there'll be a lot of people come up

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<v Speaker 3>and say things, and then you know, normally you'd take

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<v Speaker 3>it on board and go, yeah, that was a really

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<v Speaker 3>nasty thing you said about me. But then when you

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<v Speaker 3>realize that it's got nothing to do with you, that's

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<v Speaker 3>their problem that they need to work on, it is

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<v Speaker 3>very freeing because it frees you up with other people's bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just thinking about the cast of Maths.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's really funny because I don't know, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was it last week we had that Beck and she

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<v Speaker 3>was a classic lovely girl. She is a lovely girl,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do believe that she was going through trauma

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<v Speaker 3>herself and her shadow that's a classic shadow in motion.

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<v Speaker 3>She came out and she was putting fires and everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>relationships that that's actually shadow work in motion, someone that

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't healed from trauma, and it's not necessarily the trauma

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<v Speaker 3>of the person that's giving it to her.

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<v Speaker 4>On the show, there's been trauma from.

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<v Speaker 3>Either past relationships where she's felt invisible or not seen

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<v Speaker 3>or not heard, or not worthy or not beautiful or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that also because didn't she go through she was

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<v Speaker 2>engaged for a period of time and then didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>married because you knew that she would divorce this person.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, I'm not sure the story.

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<v Speaker 2>But also she's lost a great deal of weight. Ah,

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<v Speaker 2>because always an interesting all right. So then we were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Matt, So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>That's an interesting thing when you've actually dealt with someone

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<v Speaker 3>or something and you've always maybe been a larger person

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<v Speaker 3>in life and you go and lose a lot of weight,

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<v Speaker 3>you still can see yourself in the mirror as still

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<v Speaker 3>that yes, right, yeah, because I went the other way

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<v Speaker 3>because I was really skinny and then I got really

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<v Speaker 3>fat and I still look myself in the mirror and

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<v Speaker 3>I just see the skinny fucking sea bitch. Look I'm

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<v Speaker 3>back at me, That's all I see.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be practicing what you preach, and that you

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<v Speaker 2>know the positivity of looking at yourself and seeing it's skinny, bitch,

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<v Speaker 2>I do good.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it every day I'm talking to myself. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>losing weight, were losing weight.

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<v Speaker 4>But I feel like you know, you've got a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people do.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't work it out, they don't see what's going on,

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<v Speaker 3>and they just project it and they try and make

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<v Speaker 3>other people's lives miserable because they're miserable. And at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, when you actually are aware of it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting how many people don't get under your skin anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, I'm going to try that this week. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to try some shadow work this week. God knows

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen. I apologize for any messages send

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<v Speaker 2>you the next week, particularly after some prosecco.

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<v Speaker 1>Sugar free. Sugar free. All right, let's check the stars,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we?

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<v Speaker 3>Oky dokie? All right, let's just check the stars. So

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<v Speaker 3>Aries this week asks you to slow down before charging ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>A pause now brings clarity later, focus on intention action

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<v Speaker 3>rather than reaction. Taurus, comfort and stability call to you,

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<v Speaker 3>but growth sits just outside your routine, say yes to

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<v Speaker 3>something slightly unfamiliar. It may open new opportunities. Gemini communication

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<v Speaker 3>is your superpower this week. Honest conversations, clear misunderstandings, up

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<v Speaker 3>and strengthen important connections. Cancer emotional boundaries are key, protect

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<v Speaker 3>your energy and prioritize rest. Not everything requires your nurturing attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, Leo, you're stepping back into confidence. Creative ideas

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<v Speaker 3>or passions reignite, making this a powerful time to express

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<v Speaker 3>yourself boldly. Virgo organization brings peace of mind, so clearing

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<v Speaker 3>physical or emotional clutter helps you regain control and feel grounded.

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<v Speaker 3>Libra balance returns after recent uncertainty. Trust your intuition when

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<v Speaker 3>making decisions.

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<v Speaker 4>You already know what the right path is for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Scorpio transformation is underway, so let go of what feels

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<v Speaker 3>heavy or outdated to make space for deeper emotional renewal. Sagittarius,

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<v Speaker 3>adventure doesn't mean no travel. It means lots of travel,

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<v Speaker 3>so exploring new ideas or learning something new will always

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<v Speaker 3>refresh this week, and new perspectives are coming in Capricorn.

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<v Speaker 3>Focus on long term goals rather than immediate pressure. Steady

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<v Speaker 3>progress now builds a lasting success. Aquarius connection and community

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<v Speaker 3>play an important role. Collaboration or meaningful conversations bring inspiration. Pisces,

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<v Speaker 3>your intuition is heightened, so pay attention to dreams, signs,

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<v Speaker 3>and inner nudges. They're guiding you towards alignment. And that

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<v Speaker 3>is your stars for the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle, you okay? Your stars were perfect? Was it because

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<v Speaker 1>I was out of the room, was making a salad?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're yeah, yeah, well done. Thank you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it again. They'll be good.

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<v Speaker 2>Good. Jed, I'll just leave the room. Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to just leave now? Okay, I'll leave now. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>That is it for today. I've got to go. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining us. Be sure to share the podcast with

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<v Speaker 2>your friends. Leave five stars, leave us some amazing stories

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<v Speaker 2>as well, and maybe discuss shadow work with us as well.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're working on this a paranormal?

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<v Speaker 4>Has anyone got any normal? Especially if you're at the

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<v Speaker 4>Gold Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>And you want me to come and investigate it and

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<v Speaker 3>chase them out?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that'd be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want Michelle to do that, she can do it.

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<v Speaker 4>Laurie, you got to come with me. You're my partner

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<v Speaker 4>in crime. I can't do it without you.

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<v Speaker 1>Busy, you're not busy for ghosts. I had all right.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd love to hear from you. Thank you, Michelle Hi.

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