1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Leanne Wood and I'm Susie Burrow and welcome 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: to the Nutrition Couch, a weekly podcast from two of 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Australia's leading dieticians, bringing everything that is new in the 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: world of nutritions, diets and good food. Welcome back to 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: the Nutrition Couch for twenty twenty two. To get us 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: started today, Susie and I share our favorite diets and 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: diet tricks for twenty twenty two. Our client case study 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: looks at the one food ingredient you should probably avoid 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: and not include in your kid's diets. In our product review, 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: we take a closer look at a high protein chocolate 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: ice cream stick perfect for summer in Australia. And our 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: listener question is all about smoothies and more specifically, how 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: do we make a nutritionally balanced smoothie. But to get 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: us started this year, Susie, one of our favorite podcasts 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: out Loud on Mamma Mea chooses a word for the 16 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: year rather than a New Year's resolution and we quite 17 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: like this, so let's do this today without listener Susie, 18 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: what is your word of the year for twenty twenty two? 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Well, I love this closent saved We have listened to 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: this podcast for many years. It's just a weekly kind 21 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: of update all things news, and for several years now 22 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: they've done the Word of the Year, and I think 23 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: it's just such a positive way because we so often 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: focus on goals and resolutions and that can be a 25 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: little bit intimidating after we've had a holiday. So my word, 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: I say, I think about it. I'm going to focus 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: this year on energy for two reasons. One, I feel 28 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: like really exhausted. We're recording this, of course at the 29 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: end of twenty twenty one, before we kick off twenty 30 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: twenty two, and so I'm really looking next year to 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: feel more energized and perhaps a bit more self care 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: to get my energy back. But probably the other aspect 33 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: of that for me is some energy for some new 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: projects and really seeking out the energy and moving the 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: way where the energy is suggestive. I'm on the right 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: path with things, so I tend to sometimes stick around 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: with things when they're clearly not right for me, as 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: opposed to saying, right, let's go where the energy is 39 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: taking me and what's suggesting is the right way forward. 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: So that's going to be my word for twenty twenty two. 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Energy and I like to sort of put it in 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: my journal and put it around so I keep focused 43 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: on what I want to achieve. So energy and I 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 2: think we would love to hear i'd share on our 45 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: socials or a DM what your words are as well, 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: because we'll share some of those as we move through, 47 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: because it's always interesting to see what other people are 48 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 2: focusing on. But new Mamma, you'll be by this time, 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: what are you thinking. 50 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: I don't think it's twenty twenty two. For me, is 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: going to be growth. So growth as a new mum, 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: Growth hopefully in some business aspects, growth with moving along 53 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: with our house plans, which is sort of stored in 54 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of months of building industries a little 55 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: bit crazy. So growth in many aspects, I think, but 56 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: even just growth in myself of letting things go, not 57 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: trying to be perfect, knowing that as a mom, I 58 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: can't control every aspect. So I think that growth just 59 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: within myself, but also some of the important things that 60 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: in my life, you know, relationships, exercise, like just moving 61 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: my body in a really positive way I might not 62 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: be able to get in, you know, my solid gym 63 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: weight sessions, which I used to love being a new mom, 64 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: I might just have to sort of go with the 65 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: flow and do anything that I can possibly just fit in. 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: So growth and flexibility, I think if I can be 67 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: cheap and sort of go one to two words, Susie, 68 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: for me, it's going to be all about growth but 69 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: also flexibility this year. 70 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: I like that, so very positive words. So yeah, we 71 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: look forward to hearing yours as we kick off this. 72 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: New year we're go for And this time of the year, 73 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: it just seems like, Susie, every man and his dog, 74 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: where every woman and the cat are starting a new diet. 75 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: So Susie and I thought that we would chat about, 76 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: of course, what's trending in the media, and it's always 77 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: around diets in January. So and we don't mean diets 78 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: in the restrictive sense, right, We simply mean a style 79 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: of eating. We all eat a diet, so we don't 80 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: mean that we're talking about restrictive diets. We want you 81 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: to think about this new year as something that is 82 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: sustainable and balanced that you can actually stick to long term. 83 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: So Susie, I found this article which I really quite liked, 84 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: and it was titled six steps to successful weight loss 85 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: this New Year, and I really enjoy this concept because 86 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: it's not focused on calories, it's not focused on restrictions 87 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: or cutting things out. It's actually focused on your behaviors. 88 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: And you and I have spent a long time over 89 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: the last sort of six to eight months maybe talking 90 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: about behavioral changes, not just restrictions or rigid rules or 91 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: cutting things out. So the first point in this article 92 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: was that you can't fight evolution, So you can't just 93 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: try to lose every single kilo. So if your goal 94 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: is to lose fifteen twenty kilos this year, you can't 95 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: just go gung ho and just try and do that 96 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: all at once. You need to slow down, you need 97 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: to take a break. So the first point in this 98 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: article was every second month, take a break from losing 99 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: weight and instead just focus on maintaining your current weight. Honestly, Susan, 100 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: so many people have no idea how to just maintain 101 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: their weight. So we don't always have to be in 102 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: this constant state of being in a calorie deficit and 103 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: trying to lose weight. If we can get off a 104 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: couple of kilos, that's wonderful. Aim to lose two or 105 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: three kilos in January and then heat pause and just 106 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: aim to maintain that through February, aim to lose a 107 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: couple more in March, and then just aim to maintain 108 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: that in April throughout easter. And that'll set you up 109 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: so much better than trying to put all of this 110 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: external pressure on yourself to just drop ten twenty thirty 111 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: kilos all at once. So I really like that first point. 112 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: The second one was reach for natural first, so we 113 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: don't need to say no to our favorite foods, but 114 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: we want to fill up on natural, whole foods first 115 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and then have a little bit of soul foods after it, 116 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: so we feel like a treat rather than replacing a 117 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: good nourishing lunch with a block of chocolate. Have a 118 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: good nourishing lunch, then have a few squares of chocolate after. 119 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: The third tip was around eating the rainbow essentially, so 120 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: no foods are eliminated. We don't want to fear foods. 121 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: We actually want to focus on the whole rainbow, colours, 122 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: food groups, that sort of thing. So a lot of 123 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: people have come to fear things like carbohydrates, really healthy 124 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: foods like nuts and even dairy, but the research actually 125 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: shows that foods such as holegrown carbohydrates, nuts, and dairy 126 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: are actually supportive of weight loss long term. So rather 127 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: than focusing on the things that we're going to cut 128 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: out this new year, let's focus on the things that 129 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: we can actually eat in abundance, and particularly color and 130 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: eating the rainbow. The Full Tip, which I really loved because, 131 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: as some of our listeners know, my mom's Malaysian and 132 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: she loves to just encourage people to eat with chopsticks sushie. 133 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: So the Full Tip was actually eating with chopstick. So 134 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: it was learning to slow down, it's smaller portions at 135 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: your meals and actually listen to your internal hunger cues. 136 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: And I remember when my my friends were younger and 137 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: my mum used to cook his dinner. She'd try to 138 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: make my friends eat with chopstick susie. It was the 139 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: bunniest thing to ever watch. I was like, Mom, like, 140 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: let them eat with the fork and she's like, no, no, 141 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: they will learn it's much better. 142 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: For their help. 143 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: And like, my mom's never studied nutritional health, but she 144 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: she know, like she knows. She's like, it's much better. 145 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: You don't eat as much, you eat slower, you enjoy 146 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: your food butter, So I think mum. Sophie would definitely 147 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: appreciate this tip. 148 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 2: There's been skills I'd say they've used their entire life 149 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 2: because whenever they go into any kind of Asian cuisine, 150 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: there are experts at chopsticks. So it's actually quite a 151 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: good learning opportunity. If I ever bring the twins up 152 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: to Brisbane ever, I'm going to send them for a 153 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: chopstick glass with your mom. 154 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely she'll teach you how to make spring girls as well. 155 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 3: I love it. And then we got two more tips, 156 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: love Susie. 157 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: The fifth one was choose to move, so I actually 158 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: focus on positive movement and exercise you enjoy. If you 159 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: don't like the gym, don't go. If you don't like running, 160 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: don't set yourself a goal to run a marathon because 161 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: I can guarantee you it's not going to be enjoyable 162 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: and it's not going to stick long term. And the 163 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: six tip was no blue light after twilight, so use 164 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: the evening to work on your to do list, to 165 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: do something positive to wind down for the night. You know, 166 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: these types of activities and focus prevent a lot of 167 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: that mindless eating and that after dinner snacking. And most importantly, 168 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: we want to turn off all our technology and screens 169 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: after about dusk because good quality sleep is so important 170 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: for long term weight loss success. So they're the six tips. 171 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: I really like them, ZUZI the things that I talk 172 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: through with my clients all of the time, and I 173 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: know you do too. Any other tips that you feel 174 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: our listeners would benefit from instead of the restricted diets 175 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Just from I guess long term balanced approach. 176 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: I think the two things that stick out for me 177 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: is I don't think that diet is a bad word. 178 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Now that's a little bit controversial, but just hear me out, Lee, 179 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: and we all have a diet. Now, we are not 180 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: ever endorsing restrictive diets that promote disordered eating. So things 181 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: like where you're replacing all of your food with a 182 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: lemon water or juice cleanses, things that we've spoken about 183 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: before on the Nutrition Couch, which have some concerns from 184 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: a physiological metabolic perspective, But at the end of the day, 185 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: we all eat a diet, and so when I'm talking 186 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: to clients through myself, you know, we need some guidelines 187 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 2: and rules. Unfortunately, we just can't eat whatever we want 188 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: if the goal is to maintain our weight and be healthy. 189 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: So I have no qualms in talking about the best 190 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: diets for individuals, and in fact would say that we're 191 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: experts in that area. So I think it's all about 192 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: ensuring we're not promoting restrictive dieting. In any program or 193 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: dietary regime that you adopt is sustainable long term, and indeed, 194 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: we have strong scientific evidence for some of those things, 195 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: like the Mediterranean diet when it comes to health and longevity. 196 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: So I think it's about creating and building the right 197 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: diet for you. That's something that you can follow and maintain, 198 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 2: and that's ultimately the key to health and weight control. 199 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: But the one thing I would like to add just 200 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: about the chopstick point, because whilst, of course you know 201 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: when it comes to eating Asian cuisine, of course, but 202 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: what I would say is there's actually quite strong evidence 203 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: just for slowing down eating in general with even a 204 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: knife and fork. So even if you are the process 205 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: of committing twenty minutes to a meal time, putting your 206 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: knife and fork down in between each mouthful and having 207 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: a sip of water, just that basic behavioral intervention has 208 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: been shown to reduce calorie intake at a meal by 209 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: up to thirty percent. So it's the slowing down of 210 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: eating and being mindful, which has a strong evidence base 211 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: to it. But all of those things, of course, I 212 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: think the other little trick is the seven to ten 213 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 2: serves of I say, fresh fruit, but more importantly vegetables 214 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: each day. If you add or aim to include some 215 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: sort of vegetable at every meal, so your breakfast two 216 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: or three cuts at both lunch and dinner, instantly you'll 217 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: reduce again your calorie intake by about twenty percent without 218 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: any level of restriction. It's actually encouraging consumption. So focusing 219 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: your energy on what you should be eating as opposed 220 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: to what you shouldn't be eating, and instantly that's a 221 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: positive approach to diet and also ticking the box and 222 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: a number of those key nutrients and a very sustainable strategy. 223 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: Definitely, And I'll just make a quick point because I'm 224 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: sure some of our listeners are thinking, so you see 225 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: said to drink water time, queen, buttes isn't that bad 226 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: And the amount of messages I get, particularly from TikTok 227 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: susy from the younger generation, about how you can't eat 228 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: food and drink water at the same time. Your body 229 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: is incredibly smart. It has the ability to digest water 230 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: and food at the same time. So if you've heard 231 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: this myth somewhere along the line, and it's a lot 232 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: of the I guess natural therapy fields say digestion isn't 233 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: effective if you're drinking water with your meal. There is 234 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: zero evidence based to that. So guys, you can happily 235 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: drink water or other fluids with your meals at the 236 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: same time. Sure you might feel a little bit more bloated, 237 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: but that's not negatively impacting your digestion or anything like that. 238 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: So I just thought to be really good to put 239 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: that myth to bed quickly, because particularly the last few months, Tousey, 240 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of questions about that. So I 241 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: just found it quite interesting. I'm not quite sure where 242 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: it's coming from. 243 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: Well, that's a time thing. Basically. 244 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 2: The reason we say that about sewing down eating is 245 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: that it takes it about twenty minutes for the brain 246 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: to register to some of those digestive cues about volume 247 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: and how much you've actually consumed. And that's the scientific 248 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: rational for slowing down eating and taking that time for 249 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: a meal, just purely because you will feel fuller over 250 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 2: time and notice it a lot more. So I think 251 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: they're all really sustainable strategies. And yeah, the only diets 252 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: we don't like our overly restrictive ones, and we all 253 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: probably should should have a diet that we know is 254 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 2: our baseline, that is allowing us to feel and look 255 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: and perform at our best. And I think there's a 256 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: little bit of a subtle shift there as opposed to 257 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: saying that all diets are bad. All right, Well, moving 258 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: on to some areas of interest. Now, we get a 259 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 2: lot of questions leanne about foods. People like to blame 260 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: foods that are really bad for us or perceived is 261 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: not great, or once we should be taking out of 262 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: the diet. Indeed, if we headline anything about foods to avoid, 263 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: it usually clicks pretty well online. But this was a 264 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: really interesting piece of research that came through at the 265 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: end of last year from an Institute for Research in 266 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: Biomedicine study and it headlined because it was linking palm 267 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: oil to an increased risk of developing cancer. So the 268 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: first thing I would say is that it was a 269 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: study that was done in my so it wasn't a 270 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: human study. It was specifically looking at an increased risk 271 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 2: of oil and nectar cancers, so very very specific that 272 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: found that palmitic acid, which is another name for palm oil, 273 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 2: when the rats or the mice had the cancers, that 274 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: promoted a metastases of those cancers, so an increased spread 275 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: of them. So extrapolating that to a headline about the 276 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: increased risk of cancer from palm oil was a little 277 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: bit exaggerated, i must say, but it doesn't take away 278 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: from the factory and that there are some big concerns 279 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: around the consumption of palm oil, both from a health 280 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 2: perspective and also from an environmental perspective. Of course, there's 281 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: huge amounts of land cleared by big companies because there's 282 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: such a demand for palm oil to be used in 283 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: processed food. So some of the places that palm oil 284 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: will pop up that you may not realize is that 285 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: whenever you see vegetable oil listed on a food label, 286 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: it is highly likely to be palm oil. And there's 287 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: a couple of reasons for that. One is cost, it's 288 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: a relatively cheap type of oil. Second is mouthfeeld. Because 289 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: it's highly satura, it will give you a creamy kind 290 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 2: of taste and texture. So a classic example is in chocolate. Now, 291 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: admittedly a number of the main chocolate brands have now 292 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: swapped away from palm oil and they'll actually label for that, 293 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: but going back five years or even ten years ago, 294 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 2: when they remove some of the dairy fat to make 295 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: the product cheaper to produce, inevitably it was palm oil. 296 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: Our major biscuit chain will be using palm oil, and 297 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: generally anywhere you see vegetable oil it's not otherwise specified, 298 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 2: will be palm oil. So it slips into our diet 299 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: and the issue from a fat balance perspective, as we 300 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: know that diets that are pro inflammatory will have a 301 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: higher proportion of process vegetable oils, a Mega six fats 302 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: and saturated fats, and because palm oil is a heavily 303 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 2: saturated fat, it really shifts our fat balance, particularly when 304 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: the consumption of things like cakes, biscuits, snack food, chocolate 305 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 2: is relatively high in Australia, and in addition to our 306 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 2: high consumption of dairy and meat which is highly saturated, 307 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: it really programs our fat intake to be pro inflammatory. 308 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: Now, I absolutely don't. 309 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: Talk a lot about palm oil specifically with my clientcy, 310 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: And what I talk about is if you see vegetable 311 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 2: oil on a label, or blended vegetable oil in the 312 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: supermarket will usually be fifty percent palm oil, and I 313 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: don't generally buy those products. So when people say to me, oh, 314 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 2: what about a biscuit, I'll say, well, the issue with 315 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: biscuits in the supermarket is that most of them are 316 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 2: made with palm oil. So I don't generally use or 317 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: recommend it all myself. In baking, for example, I'll use 318 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: butter as opposed to vegetable oils. But I think particularly 319 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: for our kids snacks, so whenever you're seeing musli bars, 320 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: kids biscuits in individual pack sizes, any kind of process 321 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: food in our diet is likely to be palm oil, 322 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: and I do think over time we will become more 323 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: aware of it. You'll start to see food companies labeling 324 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: a lot more clearly it will say no palm oil 325 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: on it. It's also, as we said, may be listed 326 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: as palmitic acid. But even though this research is a 327 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: bit of a long shot in terms of health, there's 328 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: no doubt there's no positive benefits that come from palm 329 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: oil in the diet, and the less of it we 330 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: consume overall, the better. So I tend to have a 331 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: blanket rule. If vegetable oilers in the first couple of 332 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: incre radience, they're not products that I would buy. 333 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: And neurotic. It's a lot of the normal pantry staples 334 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: that a lot of us have. You know, Natella is 335 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: a big one, cakes, biscuits, that sort of thing where 336 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: we don't really think about it. But I did like 337 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: the almost so much like but the sort of attention 338 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: grabbing headline was really like Institute for Research in Biomedical 339 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: study links palm oil to increase cancer risk. So I 340 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: think the first point is it's important to point out 341 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: that the research was done on mice and really what 342 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: they found it wasn't all types of cancer. It really 343 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: was that palm oil it promoted metastases in the mouth 344 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: and also skin cancers. But there was a big bold 345 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: statement in there from the professor who did the RESET 346 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: study saying that it is important to recognize that although 347 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: we have this research and we know that palm oil 348 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: isn't great, we also can't link A to B and 349 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: say that palm oil will give you, you know, increased 350 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: metastases in cancer or anything like that, so we really 351 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: did say that there wasn't too much that we can 352 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: recommend from a dietary based perspective, but it is something 353 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: that you know, as dieticians, were well aware of and 354 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: we definitely, you know, we're recommending decreased assumption of these 355 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: overly processed foods anyway, but also because some of these 356 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: particular ingredients may potentially have some long term health effects 357 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: as well. So the article it was a little bit 358 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: of a I guess scare tactic as such, like it 359 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: was a very media attention grabbing headline. But as you said, 360 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: we've definitely talked about vegetable oils and palm oils and 361 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the effects of that on our health long term. So 362 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: I think it is a good reminder this new year 363 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: for everyone to just sort of take a look at 364 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: the different products that you're buying, or particularly the things 365 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: that you're putting regularly into your kid's lunchboxes. We're not 366 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: saying you can't give your kids treats, but it is 367 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: really important to look at the ingredients that your kids 368 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: are consuming on a regular basis. If you're someone who buys, 369 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, a little bag of cookie for the kids 370 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: once a month or once every couple of weeks, like 371 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: you probably have got to do too much damage. But 372 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: if they're getting those things regular in their lunchbox a 373 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: couple of times a week or even every day, it's 374 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: probably a really good time to just do a little 375 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: bit of a lunch box assessment of your kid's lunchboxes 376 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: this new year, and. 377 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: We will do a significant proportion of an episode in 378 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks on school lunches with some 379 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: ideas for snacks that we have identified as superior nutritionally 380 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: in the supermarkets. 381 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: Wonderful, and then moving on to our product of the 382 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: rigs Susie in Australia. Sorry for those in American, the 383 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: UK it's quite cold at the moment and other parts 384 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: of the work, but in Australia it is very hot, 385 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: particularly where I live. Susie up in sunny Queensland. So 386 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I thought the product of the week should be something 387 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: nice and cool and enjoyable, like a chocolate ice cream. 388 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: So one of my listeners sent through this one. It's 389 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: marketers packed with protein. It is the Faux pro Mighty 390 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: Pops chocolate. So how many do you get in a container? 391 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: Eight? 392 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: There's eight, so eight in a container, and at the 393 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: moment they're on sale will wet for eight dollars, so 394 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: there's sort of, you know, a dollar a pop, so 395 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: affordability wise, they're actually quite good. The front of the 396 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: packet labeling, which we know SUSI that we don't want 397 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: to look at. We actually want to turn it over 398 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: and interpret the nutrition label. But the front of the 399 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: packet marketing sets packed with protein and sixty five percent 400 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: less sugar, less sugar compared to what I'm not sure 401 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: says fall Style health rating an ideal for nutritious snacking. 402 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure that I would call an ice 403 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: cream stick ideal for nutritious snacking. But let's see. Let's 404 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: see how we go. So we've got nutrition wives. We've 405 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: got four or six kilodels are serving, so roughly one 406 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: hundred calories per stick, or under seven point seven grams 407 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: of protein per stick, which is actually quite high. Two 408 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: and a half grams of fat, one point six of 409 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: those being saturated fats, that's pretty good. Ten point four 410 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: grams of carbs, five and a half being sugars pretty 411 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: good too. No dietary five are listed, and forty four 412 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: milligrams of sodium, so I mean, just looking purely at 413 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: the nutritionals, it actually looks like a decent product in 414 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: terms of calories and macronutrient wise. And then we look 415 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: at the ingredients. The top ingredient it says dairy ingredients 416 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: in brackets cream and all butter. I find that amusing 417 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: that says and or butter. I really hope that they 418 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: should know what they put into their product. Plus water, 419 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: plus milk, protein concentrates, so that's where that protein is 420 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: coming from. Xylotol, which is their sweetener. We've got cocoa 421 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: powder and mulsifies and some vegetable gums, So I guess 422 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: not too bad, like thinking of this is an ice 423 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 1: cream or meant to be an ice cream on a stick. 424 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: So this is very much what we would see in 425 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: a normal ingredient liss for an ice cream. So actually 426 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't think these are I'm not saying we should 427 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: be having these every day and they're super nutritious, but 428 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: they're actually not a bad option. I guess there's a 429 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: bit of a light to treat, and again it's got 430 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: a little bit of protein in there, so maybe adding 431 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more satiety, and they're not hugely expensive. 432 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 1: Ei there's some of those other sort of pints of 433 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, the high protein ice cream can be close 434 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: to fifteen dollars for one of those small pints. So actually, 435 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: I don't think these are a bad option overall. 436 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: I came across these. 437 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: I recently did a trolley on my Instagram with treats 438 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 2: for after dinner with that were less than one hundred 439 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: calories per piece, and I hadn't seen them before and 440 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 2: found these and I could I was pretty impressed with 441 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: the nutritionals and like they're less than they're just over 442 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 2: ninety calories. Seven grams almost eight grams of protein per 443 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: serve is pretty significant for an ice cream. 444 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 3: And it's quite. 445 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: An advanced formulation because when we look at the first 446 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: ingredient as milk solid and cream, which is similar to 447 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 2: full fat ice cream, and then to get a loaf 448 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: fat product or just over loaf fat at three point 449 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: three grams per hundred is actually a really strong formulation. 450 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: So they've done well. 451 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: Now I haven't tried them, Yeah, neither have I because 452 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: sometimes they don't always taste amazing. But you know, I've 453 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: got no reason to believe, or had no feedback that 454 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: they don't taste I think they taste pretty good from 455 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: all accounts, so I'm pretty happy at five grams of sugar. 456 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: You know, for people who enjoy something sweet after dinner, 457 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 2: it's up there with some of the best options, and 458 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: certainly one of the lowest sugar varieties. Admittedly they're using xylotol, 459 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: which is a sweetener, but in terms of added sugar, 460 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: it's one of the lowest out there. It's an Australian 461 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: products got up to eighty two percent of Australian ingredients. 462 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, thumbs up for me. 463 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: I will have to have a try, but as I said, 464 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: I've had no feedback otherwise that this isn't a great product, 465 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 2: So well done. I think the more of these options 466 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: we have out there for people, so that if you 467 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: do enjoy something after dinner that's a bit healthier and 468 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: adding a bit of nutrition, it's great. 469 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: And I might take one for the team and go 470 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: and sample there, Susie. 471 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: Worse you have to do because you are you keep 472 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 2: showing off about your Queensland weather. It's not going to 473 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: go down very well with people down here, so I 474 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: suggest your tone that down a bit. 475 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, maybe I'll go take one for the 476 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: team and sample these ice cream pops. I mean, someone's 477 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: going to do the hard work, right if someone does. 478 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: Definitely not eating ice cream here in sa here at 479 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 2: the moment, So yeah, go for it, but no thumbs up. 480 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: I think it's a great product, and yeah, the more 481 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 2: of these the better, And one hundred calories for a 482 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: dessert treats really really. 483 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: Good, So bring it on, all right. 484 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: Well, our final segment of the show is not unrelated 485 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: because it's all about sort of summer drinks and refreshing treats, 486 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: and I get asked lee out about smoothies a lot. 487 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: Now. 488 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: I rarely write smoothies into my meal plans because I 489 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: don't make them and I don't really love them myself. 490 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 2: But I just find that people's smoothies tend to be 491 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: a complete overload of honey, milk, yogat, jill date, fluxi, 492 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: chia and this sort of seemingly healthy smoothie or definitely 493 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: the ones you're buying in supermarket, not supermarkets, in shopping centers, 494 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: you know, the popular brands are just pack full of calories. 495 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: Like you're looking at four five hundred plus calories in 496 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: a typical smoothie. You pay a significant amount of money 497 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: for So I'm not the biggest fan, but you can 498 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: make a nutritionally balanced smoothie, and I know a lot 499 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: of our listeners enjoy them. We've had some questions. I 500 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: get a lot of questions about them from my own clients. 501 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: So I've got a formula if I've got a client 502 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 2: who enjoys a smoothie, about how I like to make them. 503 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: So this is my formula. You can tell me if 504 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: you agree. I always say one fruit, one piece of fruit, 505 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: but I don't count berries as a fruit because they've 506 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: got such a high water and antioxidant and nutritionally beneficial. 507 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: Profile with their high fiber. 508 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 2: So I'd say one piece of fruit, things like a 509 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: banana or mango, and then berries you can use freely. 510 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: Then I say a protein. So the protein could be 511 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: some protein powder or a high protein Greek yogurt. Now, 512 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: if people want to use milk as the protein, I'm 513 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: just mindful that, for example, almond milk, oat milks don't 514 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 2: have a lot of protein, so just be mindful if 515 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: you're choosing a plant based milk that it is one 516 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: with no added sugar, so an unsweetened variety. And then 517 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: I say a vegetable, so some sort of green to 518 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: blend in to give it some extra bulk. So that's 519 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: my sort of default ingredient list of fruit, a bit 520 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: of vegetable, something like some spinach or kale that will 521 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: blend in, a protein, the milk, so just check the 522 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: quality of the milk and you know, blend it up 523 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: with some mice because always the things like the vegetables 524 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: taste nicer. So I don't tend to add a lot 525 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: of the extra fats, things like the chia or the 526 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: nuts spreads, because that just contains such a significant amount 527 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: of calories, and I'm looking for a smoothie to be 528 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: about three hundred calories. So that formula will give you 529 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: about three hundred calories, a decent amount of fiber, and 530 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: a decent amount of protein, which is what I would 531 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: define as a healthy meal, and not too much sugar, 532 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: because of course, as soon as you're adding honey or 533 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 2: you're adding fruit yogurts, and you know, you can get 534 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: thirty forty fifty grams of sugar in your seemingly healthy smoothie. 535 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: So admittedly my smoothie recommendation is quite plain, but that'll 536 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 2: give you about three hundred cow. What's your default smoothie. 537 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: I think I'm a little bit more generous with my ladies. 538 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: My ladies tend to be, you know, a little bit taller, active, 539 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: slightly at larger perhaps, so sort of nutrition wise, I'm 540 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: aiming for around four or five hundred calories for my ladies. 541 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: But I definitely do add the healthy batserve in there. 542 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: So I look at something like a nice nut butter 543 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: or seeds, like I love to use seeds, particularly because 544 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: a lot of my ladies suffer with sort of gut 545 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: health issues or discomforts. I like to get a bit 546 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: of fiber out of things like cheer seeds or adding 547 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of rolled oats, or I like to 548 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: use berries as the fruit, and then rolled oats is 549 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: the carbohydrates serve as well, so I sort of count 550 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: the fruit as the carb serves. So I sort of say, 551 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: you can use some rolled oats, or you can use 552 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: some fruit or something like that to get a bit 553 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: of extra fiber in. And I do like adding a 554 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: healthy fat serve as well. But I think, as you mentioned, 555 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people I guess go wrong with smoothies 556 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 1: because they're dumping in you know, they're dumping in hemp 557 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: seeds and almond butter and a little bit of coconut 558 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: oil and some avocado, and then we're using a couple 559 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: of serves of fruit, and then even extra things like 560 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: modial dates, like I've seen people putting three four five 561 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: medial dates into their smoothies as well, which again can 562 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: just blow out the sugar content, even though they are 563 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: nice and natural and that sort of thing. So I 564 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: like to go with the one serve of carb, one 565 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: serve of healthy fats, about twenty grams of protein. I'm 566 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more specific with my protein requirements for 567 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: my ladies because a lot of my ladies are doing 568 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: the exercise in the morning, so we want that good 569 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: whack of protein after their session. So just trying to 570 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: get in twenty grams, whether that's sort of a mix 571 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: of a bit of milk and high protein yoga or 572 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: a good scoop or so of away protein powder or 573 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: something like that. Yea. Plus I like to add two 574 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: serves of veggies in, and the veggies that blend really 575 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: well that you don't sort of notice from a taste perspective, 576 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: so things like zucchini, which and baby spitach, which might 577 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: change the color of this smoothie might make it a 578 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: bit brown and muddy, but doesn't actually add too much 579 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: from a taste perspective. And I've even added things like 580 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: chickpeas and cauliflower and that sort of thing into some smoothies. 581 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: I created one for a client the other day, soothie. 582 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: It was like a banana bread smoothie, and we added 583 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: what do we add? Ricotta and chickpeas and tahini and 584 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of honey and some banana and some 585 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: rolled oats as well, and it was beautiful the flavor 586 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: and the texture of it, and it was really nutritionally 587 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: balanced from all of the components as well. So I'm 588 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: like you, I think that the ones that we buy 589 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: from supermarkets and just even cafes and that sort of 590 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: thing can be very unbalanced, like very very high in carbohydrates, 591 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: very low in protein as well, and often sometimes quite 592 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: high in in facts as well, which can really blow 593 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: out the calorie content. I'm seeing quite a few men 594 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: use at cafes where we go. I might go to 595 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: breakfast with some girlfriends and they order a smoothie plus 596 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: a massive breakfast, so like you know, eggs on toast 597 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 1: with bacon and allumian that sort of thing. Plus they're 598 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: big smoothie, and this smoothie is easily, you know, up 599 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: with of six eight hundred calories just based on what's 600 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: going into that from an ingredient perspective. So I do 601 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: think it's mindful. Like if you're ordering a smoothie at 602 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: a cafe or a restaurant for a lot of us, 603 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: it's sort of the requirements of a small meal or 604 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: of a natural meal for some people. But if you're 605 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: making it at home, definitely we can we can add 606 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: a little bit more balance in there, particularly things like 607 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: some fruits and some extra veggies as well. 608 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: You're right on a reflection, I have been a little 609 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: bit mean about the added fats, so I'm just going 610 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: to ring nig on that because it made me seem 611 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 2: like I'm so stingy. 612 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: So I'm going to say a teaspoon. 613 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: So if someone wants to add some one hundred percent 614 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: that's spread or some chia, I'm just a bit fussy 615 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 2: on the volume. Avocado is another one I'd say about 616 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 2: a teaspoon, So I'm being a bit more generous. 617 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: No, I'm adding a bit more. 618 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 2: But did you say which veggies blend well. I'm thinking 619 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: spinach goes really well because it doesn't taint it too much. 620 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: What are some other veggies? Yeah, and zucchini, keen I 621 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: like quite well too. Yeah, and even a little bit 622 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: of cauliflower. I've had a quite a few recipes. And 623 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: carrot like I love making like a carrot cake. 624 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: Flavored smoothie meal carrot, nutmeg, cinnamon, milk, a bit of 625 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: yogurt and then a little bit of sort of fruit 626 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: that someone might choose as well. 627 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 2: I'm mos someone doing if beet sroot could work quite well. 628 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: I've never done it myself, but because it's quite sweet 629 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 2: if you had a beet troot, because there's a new 630 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: beetroot you can find in a glass jar. You know 631 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 2: how beet triot's always missy and you still have to 632 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: get the tin and then you'd have to open it. 633 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,239 Speaker 2: Now they've got in a glass jar, which I think 634 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: is very handy because it's like a girkin. Then you 635 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: can just take out your beetroot and stick it in 636 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 2: your smoothie. So yeah, be pretty, be pink, pink and pretty. 637 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 638 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think the difference is between smoothies and 639 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: juices as well, you know, I had a question from 640 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: someone on Instagram. They must have got like a new 641 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: cold breast sort of juice make are very fancy as well, 642 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I think, but they were sort of saying, you know, 643 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: how do I make juices a little bit more more healthier? 644 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: So I think the definition of a juice to me 645 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: is really just kind of fruits, veggies, and water, where smoothies, 646 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: I think are a little bit more nutritionally balanced than 647 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: juices because we can add the other components like proteins 648 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: and healthy vats and that sort of thing. So I 649 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: personally am probably much more a fan of a balance 650 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: smoothie versus a juice. I do like juices. I think 651 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: if we're adding in quite a lot of veggies, that 652 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: can be more of a snack option, whereas I think 653 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: smoothies can be more nutritionally imbalanced and be more of 654 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: a main meal option. Yeah. Perfect, All right, Well that 655 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: brings us to the end of the Nutrition Couch and 656 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: the kickoff for twenty twenty two. So that is the 657 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: end of the episode today. Guys, if you haven't done 658 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: so already, we would appreciate if you could subscribe to 659 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: the podcast. You can ask us any questions through our 660 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: Instagram and Facebook social sites. 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