1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Now, Throughout this week, we have been speaking about assaults 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: on frontline workers, assaults on service station workers, assaults on 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: security guards as well. It seems we've been sent a 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: video of an altercation at a local supermarket between a 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: man and a security guard. It's confronting and not something 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: that locals au tourists should have to witness. Nonetheless, you know, 7 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: or certainly let alone a security guard having to deal 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: with it. Now, I'm told that that security guard needed 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: to go to hospital following the ordeal, and a friend 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: of the security guard, who's also a part of the 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: local Bangladeshi community, joins me on the line right now. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Good morning to you. Hey, good morning, and thanks so 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: much for your time this morning. Now, can you tell 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: me what happened to your friend? 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, from what I can started work, I can 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: finish because there's an every day job for everybody. It 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: happened on last Monday. I was being shopping in the 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: shopping complex and I just realized lots of screaming is 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 2: happening out there. And my friend, he's from Bangladesh, he 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: just finish his degree and he's in the middle of 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: his visa conditions things. He was doing his duty and 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: one of the men he was trying to steal something 23 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: and he told him to just leave the complex and 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: they have some arguments in there. And just after that 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: he left the complex and a couple of minutes later 26 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: he came back and he was he was so desparate 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: to hit him and it just started. He keep bashing 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: him and the security guard was he was alone that time, 29 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: and he has lots of rules and regulations and policies 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: to maintain, so he just tried to save himself and 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 2: not to hurt anyone. But it cost him a lot 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: because he got passed on the back, on the face 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: and he was he was badly injured. And after some 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: time later he got back up security guard and there 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: somehow managed to stop that man. 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry to hear that that happened to him. 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: How is he going in terms of his injuries? 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 2: In terms of injury, he's still dealing with these and 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: so far, I know he went to urdhe once or 40 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 2: twice in emergencies because in the back he can't sleep properly. 41 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: He had some belief tissue damage happened, and as well 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: as mentally, he's not he's not fine because if he's 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: not mentally fine, how can he make safeguard to other people? 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right. And how you know, I would 45 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: be so frightened if something like that had happened to 46 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: me to be able to go back to work. 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: There are the things, because it's not only the thing 48 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 2: that who's being affected, it also the surrounding people who 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: are watching. Who are watching the things are adult like 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: me or kids whoever in the shopping complex. It is 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: the kind of you are seeing the whole rampage in 52 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: front of you, and you can it can do anything, 53 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: and anybody can fall into this altercation. 54 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: How look, how is the Bangladeshi community feeling at the moment. 55 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the community of the Northern Territory in Darwin 56 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: more generally is very unhappy with what's going on. But 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the Bangladeshi community, you know, after what happened to see 58 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: fat last year, I would imagine there's been a time 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: when quite a few of you are of feeling quite frightened. 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, I don't believe roughly because I came in 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: Darwin two does and twelve, it's been roughly two of 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: thirten years from me in Darwin. So the friend ship 63 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: I made in Darwin. My local people, I lost ninety 64 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: percent of them because they just went to down south 65 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: different places to live with the family. We only I 66 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: can still count. I have only four or five old 67 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: friends who I made them ten years back with sinking 68 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Darwi at this moment, but the rest of them they 69 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: left that way because it is a continuous process is happening. 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: We lost the first last year. This is happening. And 71 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: how many students, how many people are get affected with 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: these things. This is just a few small numbers that 73 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: comes to the steristics, right, But most of them they 74 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: don't come forward to report the things because they're scared. 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: Because the people come from a different part of the world. 76 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 2: They were a visa. For example, I had a visa. 77 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: I had a student visa, so when I finished my 78 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: student visa, after that I jump into my post study 79 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: work private visa, and right after that I have to 80 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: apply for my pertmanent residency. Though this is a path 81 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: way I have to follow. So what actually happens when 82 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: people fall into this kind of condition, they remain quiet. 83 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: They try to come in quiet and they don't want 84 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: to tell to anyone because they're scared of if somehow 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: their visa get got canceled or any more complications. So 86 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: this is why I your mind get a few small 87 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: number of people they got affected in the statistics, yeah, 88 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: but in the reality it is a huge number two members, 89 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: number of things that doesn't come to us. 90 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: That's really sad to hear. You know, that is actually 91 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: really sad to hear that. You know, they're friends of yours, 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: members of the Bangladeshi community. Things are happening to them 93 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: and they don't want to say anything because they don't 94 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: want it to affect their visa. You know, that's it's 95 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: a terrible situation for them to be in. Have you 96 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: found that, you know that many of your friends have 97 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: left down and left in Northern Territory because of what's 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: going on. 99 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I give you just a Durian example. I have 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: a friend who I met here twenty thirteen. He was 101 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: studying in CityU He was just finishing his degree in 102 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: accounting and he was a very good friend of mine 103 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: and he got married. He brought his wife here. So 104 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 2: what happens we come from different part of the world 105 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,799 Speaker 2: to Australia because really it is one of the loveliest 106 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: country in the world, most multicultural country in the world 107 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: right and the people in Australia, they are very welcoming, 108 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: they're very good, they help us and it is a 109 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: kind of mutual respect and understanding. We try to go 110 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 2: each other right and in this perspective, and we finished 111 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: the degree. We do a good job. My friend, he 112 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: did a good job in Darwin, and he did work 113 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 2: for anty government, he did work for federal government. He 114 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: had very good experience. He built his houses Dukuli and 115 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: it's just for one year and Siva got killed and 116 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: he left Darwin with his wife in December last year. 117 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 2: So this is an example. I'm listening to you. He 118 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: sold his house. So how many friends? As I told you, 119 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: I have lost my ninety partents of my friends who 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: I made friendship in Darwin now they are a different 121 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: part in Australia. 122 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: In Darwin, does it, Mike, you think about leaving town? 123 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Why not? My first priority is my safety. 124 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: And that's how so many people feel. Yeah, well that's 125 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: how we all feel, right, you know, like our personal safety, 126 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: at the safety of our children, the safety of our families. 127 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: It's our number one priority. And you know that's really 128 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: what what the government needs to understand is that people 129 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: need to feel safe, and assaults on people like your 130 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: friend who is a security guard. It's becoming all too 131 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: common and it is not good enough. That behavior is 132 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: not acceptable. None of us think that it is acceptable. 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a thing because that's imagining thisly is 134 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 2: that security guard started hitting back on that guy. What 135 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: will happen? He will loss he will lose his license. 136 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: Then who's going to fit in? So good way is 137 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: to do you just just get bitten? That's it. 138 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: That is terrible. It's it's a terrible way for him 139 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: to feel. And you know, and that feeling of helplessness 140 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: because you are worried that going to lose your job, 141 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: that you know you're going to lose your visa. It's 142 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, it is not fair and it's not you know, 143 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: it shouldn't should not be happening. It is that simple. 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: No, it should not be happening at all. Because the 145 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: thing is we all live in Darwin. We choose Australia 146 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: to live in a better place, right, Yeah, there's no 147 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: shame to say that Ostin is a better place to live, 148 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: better than back in my country. We choose Australia to 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: live in here, and what happened you go to work 150 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 2: and you don't come back because you are dead. You 151 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: go to work, you don't come back because you're beast. 152 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: You're in hospital, you're at your home, you're sleeping, and 153 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: the next day your friends are seeing you are dead. 154 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 2: It is I feel for I'm not trying to be political. 155 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: I'm just talking as a normalison receive absolutely, yeah, isn't ye, 156 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: It's not a political things. I'm a normal general person. 157 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: What I expect, I want my fundamental rights. 158 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I really appreciate talking to me this morning 159 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: because I think that it is a story that needs 160 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: to be told. You know, we as Territorians need to 161 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: realize as well that we have got a lot of 162 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: a lot of wonderful people here that have come from 163 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: another country, that are that are working here in the 164 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Northern Territory contributing to our to our economy and contributing 165 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: to society in so many different ways. And to be 166 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: having to deal with that kind of thing is just 167 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: not good enough. I really appreciate you taking the time 168 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: to have a chat with me this morning. Thank you, 169 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: thank you, Thanks so much.