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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. Sam, you know how

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Speaker 1: our lives have changed in recent months. If someone said

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Speaker 1: to you last year at budget time, I mean the

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Speaker 1: projections were that at this budget today that Josh Fredenberger Treasurer,

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Speaker 1: we expected him and they said they would be announcing

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Speaker 1: the nation's first surplus in a decade. Instead, it's expected

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Speaker 1: today he will reveal the nation is now facing the

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Speaker 1: biggest deficit in Australian history. Wow, if someone had told

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Speaker 1: you that, I would have thought maybe alien attack. I

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Speaker 1: would never have thought pandemic. What would you have for that?

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Speaker 2: I think I would have thought pandemic. I would have

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Speaker 2: thought pandemic. There was probably a point that I thought

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Speaker 2: in North Korea or tried to blow us up. And

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Speaker 2: I don't think they I don't think they have the capabilities. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think I might have thought pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it intriguing? So here we are, we are on

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Speaker 1: the cusp of some freedom's coming back. As of Friday.

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Speaker 1: Suddenly we will be allowed to go into restaurants with

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Speaker 1: ten tables, with social distancing, We'll be able to see

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Speaker 1: groups of people, were able to go out side with

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Speaker 1: groups of people. But how do you feel about it.

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Speaker 3: All the second wave?

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Speaker 1: Well, why haven't we been frightened by all the information

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Speaker 1: about the second.

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Speaker 3: Wive you've seen it.

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Speaker 4: If you think of the coronavirus pandemic as marathon race,

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Speaker 4: how far has Australia run halfway? Could the finish line

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Speaker 4: be inside? Well, actually we haven't even started to raise

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Speaker 4: the sweat. Epidemiologists tell us we're barely a kilometer into

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Speaker 4: this forty two k test of endurance.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine going through this all over again.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have another battle with it.

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Speaker 1: The CDC is warning a second, more vicious wave of coronavirus.

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Speaker 3: Eighty percent of the people who died during the nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighteen pandemic died in that second wave. Scary so much

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Speaker 3: not go out to eat at a restaurant just yet.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. A number of restaurants, cafes and restaurants,

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Speaker 1: as we said, could reopen with up to ten diners

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Speaker 1: at a time. Within an hour, restaurants were booked out.

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Speaker 1: Some are saying that it's not feasible that they can't

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Speaker 1: afford to it. Will they'll go bankrupt if they have

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Speaker 1: to open for just ten tables. They just by the

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Speaker 1: time they pay staff and turn on the lights and

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Speaker 1: get food in. It's not worth it for that. Others

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Speaker 1: just can't wait to do it, and people can't wait

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Speaker 1: to do it. There's two prongs to this, I reckon

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Speaker 1: one is And we were talking about this a bit

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Speaker 1: earlier off air, Brendan, you're you think you're still anxious

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Speaker 1: about the second wave in terms of catching the disease.

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Speaker 1: But I just think also our social habits have changed.

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Speaker 1: I imagined early on in this I thought, I can't

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Speaker 1: wait to sit in a restaurant and can clink a

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Speaker 1: glass with my friends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.

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Speaker 1: Well, now that we're almost able to do it, I've

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Speaker 1: lost I've lost the appetite, I've lost the vibe for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've been reading a bit about this. Actually, I've got

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Speaker 1: a text for my friend in New Zealand last week

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Speaker 1: and she said, they're they're about to after six weeks

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Speaker 1: of hard lockdown, much harder than us, they are about

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Speaker 1: to come out. And she said she doesn't know how

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Speaker 1: she feels about that. We've all we've all been retrained

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Speaker 1: in a way, and particularly with our consumerism that when

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Speaker 1: you buy something, I wonder how our habits will change.

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Speaker 1: When you buy something, it does set off a chemical

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Speaker 1: reaction in your brain. Feels great, and then to get

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Speaker 1: that hit again, you have to buy more. So eventually

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Speaker 1: you're buying a lot of stuff just to have that

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Speaker 1: feeling of standing still. And I do think a lot

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Speaker 1: of us have stepped off the treadmill during this phase.

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Speaker 1: Interesting to see who we are when we come out

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Speaker 1: of this, because after the depression of the nineteen twenties,

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Speaker 1: everyone didn't go shopping and suddenly the economy didn't instantly

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Speaker 1: bounce back. The fifties were very frugal. It took until

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Speaker 1: the eighties would become became big consumers.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing, the optimistic part about this was

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Speaker 2: the last time we had any major pandemic.

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Speaker 3: The Spanish flu one was the biggest one. It didn't

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Speaker 3: just end with a cure. There was no cure. We

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Speaker 3: got used to it. If humans or anything, we're very adaptable.

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Speaker 3: The only thing where they had a cure was smallpox

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Speaker 3: and measles, which pretty much changed everything with vaccination. So

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Speaker 3: what we're going to do is we'll just get used

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Speaker 3: to living with coronavirus. It's probably going to be around forever.

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Speaker 1: Meaning do you think we'll always be slightly social.

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Speaker 2: It means that I guess handshakes and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff are going to change a bit, you know,

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Speaker 2: the way we socialize will be different.

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Speaker 1: And this has been such an extraordinary time. It's almost

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Speaker 1: having the social yips that I don't know how comfortable

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Speaker 1: I feel about coming out again. Who we will be

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Speaker 1: on the other side of this is I don't think

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Speaker 1: the same people we were when we went into it.

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Speaker 1: But people are booking the restaurants, some people are doing

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Speaker 1: some might talk about it and the pub test later on.

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Speaker 1: Are you one of those You're ready to get out?

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Speaker 1: Are you're still a bit jittery.

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Speaker 2: It's good that you don't want to go out for dinner,

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Speaker 2: because I was going to take you out for a

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Speaker 2: fine steak dinner and.

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Speaker 1: I was going to know what, you know, what I will,

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Speaker 1: I will.

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Speaker 3: Let's not be overcautious, I mean, let's not be reckless.

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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning,