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Speaker 2: Son, I'll make you a start.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian, good on you, Brian, Brian Brown. Not

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Speaker 3: too many better. Hey, No'm from Australia. Our guest today

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Speaker 3: is Annie murder Minkes. I have known any, known any

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Speaker 4: And we're very proud of the actors.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the stars who have become international stars

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Speaker 3: acting Coach, Annie murder Minkes Andie welcome.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you so Hi Hi Claresie, Hi Lisa, So

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Speaker 4: What tell us?

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Speaker 1: First of all, Annie, let's start at the beginning. What

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Speaker 2: Great question actually because a lot of people get confumed. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Dodger working through your wish you can get the movie, indible, TV,

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Speaker 2: It's always casting by committee these days. So everybody, you know,

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Speaker 3: Put it that way, I would imagine so Anie, when

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's those you have to deal with the actors

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Speaker 3: And can I say a bloody good actor too, because

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Speaker 3: Well, then to showed your skill, and you can't do

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Speaker 4: What would be your top couple of tips to people.

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Speaker 2: A great question. And by the way, just before I

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Speaker 2: You just need to be prepared that there's a lot

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Speaker 3: I want to bring up the word charisma. Now you

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Speaker 2: Look. I certainly think the camera does love some people,

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Speaker 4: With one clue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're photogenicity. I made that word up. That's really

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Speaker 2: So there I color their their skin tone, the quality

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well has got that photogenicity in.

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Speaker 3: the set and become become a quality actress as well, exactly.

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Speaker 2: And Lee we cast I cast him in The Heights,

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Speaker 4: Extraordinary, extraordinary. Indeed, by the way I loved The Heights.

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Speaker 1: I would, if you know, I would have no problem

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Speaker 4: I think we wanted it.

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Speaker 2: We wanted it for COVID here. Yes, funding cuts to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we love doing that.

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Speaker 2: It was and that was all filmed in Perth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah absolutely cod we drive past the building,

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Speaker 1: you know to get into work.

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Speaker 4: Annie, Thanks for what you do, keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: It's all fantastic, and thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 1: us today with all that great advice about where people

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Speaker 1: will make sure they're in the right place to all

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Speaker 4: You never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It is, it is, and let's hope our industry continues

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Speaker 2: to keep growing here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's going to any good again. Thanks Annie.

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Speaker 2: Yes see you lay.

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Speaker 3: Uh some of these guests and we can hear the

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Speaker 4: It's very very cool.

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Speaker 1: So philm bits Padoi Artists Management Australia. Good good advice.

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Speaker 3: There, and like you said, lest twenty twenty six will

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Speaker 3: be here like that, yeah, where production will start and

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Speaker 1: We can be like New Yorkers by the end of

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Speaker 4: We all have appeared in some sort of something you

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Speaker 4: know as an extra one shots in the Red Jumper