WEBVTT - NOONAN - AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR WEEK 4 - NETWORK 10 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:01.640 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:05.200 TV Reload the podcast last week that night. Hey guys, 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:07.360 welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:10.440 for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Noonan the 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:15.680 only eliminated Australian Survivor player. After a week of unpredictable twists, 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:19.120 this fourth week of the show, we saw another original 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:21.599 Braun player getting booted, and we are going to get 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:24.560 some hot takes on why Noonon was eliminated and what 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:28.240 she thinks of this week's gameplay. From her surviving Survivors, 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.280 Noona will talk about her relationship with Ursula and what 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:34.720 she really thinks of their friendship. Now noon will share 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:37.560 her thoughts on the challenges and if they are proving 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.680 to be too dangerous. I will find out about Noonan's 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:42.960 family and what her brothers thought of her time on 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.080 the show. You will get everything from Noonan's take on 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.199 the drama between Laura and Zara, what she thinks of 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.280 the post show Survivor community, and what she thinks of 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:55.920 My Rivals theme for next year. There's actually so much 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.000 to talk about with so many inside revelations, so guys 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:01.720 sit back and relax. As we unpacked the wonderful world 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.520 of a Strand Survivor, which is back this week on 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:09.240 Sunday Night on Network ten. Hi, Nowdon, how are you good? 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:09.759 How are you? 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:12.320 I'm very excited to be talking to you because I 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:16.399 really loved you on this show. Thanks my gosh. It's 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:20.040 such a high stressed environment and it can be nothing 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.399 like what you expected. How does it all land for you? 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.840 Now you've auditioned, you've gotten on, You've been able to 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:29.120 wait months to watch it, and they've seen it. How 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:29.720 does it feel? 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:35.080 I have never loved Survivor more than I do right now. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:37.959 It's like the first love that you'd never let go of. 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.559 I am such a fan and I'm so proud of myself. 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:44.920 That's all I'm overwhelmed with right now. So I love it. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.440 It didn't change any Survivor magic for me. And yeah, 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.480 I think I love it more than I do now 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.120 than I did when I before I went out. 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:53.520 How have you been watching it? Have you had your 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:55.640 brothers there? Because I know that you were talking about 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.760 the fact that you know this is your time to shine. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.280 Did your rink bring them in instead of show them 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:01.080 how good you are? 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.240 Yeah? For the first out. We watched it at the 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.120 footy club and what was their reaction? 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:08.640 They were in tears. They were so proud. Even when 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.680 I went home they cried. 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.040 You know, when you arrived there and you sort of 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.720 assessed the situation, did you have any idea how long 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.639 you thought you would stick around for like you've met 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.760 all the other people. Did you go, I'm here for 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.640 a long time? Or did you think you were pushing 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.480 up a hill? Like? What was it? What was it like? 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:23.040 In real time? 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:24.880 I thought I'd make it quite deep. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.600 I was confident that there was more threats around me. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:30.840 I didn't I didn't think I stood out too much, 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.400 and I knew my social skills were quite strong, so 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.640 I thought I could adapt quite quickly. So when tribes 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.880 what came, I was ready, was ready to adapt and 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.160 talk to new people, And unfortunately I just fell short 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.440 of like the next phase in the game. But it 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.519 was a wicked tribal, so I was like, heck, yeah, 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.520 two idols, I'll take that. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.160 That's ridiculous. I was thinking about how this show takes 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.320 its toll on people. This season, more than any other 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.800 season that I can remember. We've seen people leaving the 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:02.840 comp petition because of how grueling it is. What was 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:05.160 it for you? Because I mean in your final episode 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:07.919 you looked a bit beaten and worn down. What had 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.880 happened for you in that In regards to all of that, Oh, it's. 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:11.400 Hard to explain. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.920 It was like I had an idea and know it 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:16.240 was like I was screaming and no one could hear me. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.160 I was like, there's this clear plan we could all 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:23.400 go with and it benefits everyone. And they listened, but 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.880 they didn't help. And then to be injured, it was 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:30.240 like twenty years of love for this show came crashing 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:33.200 down on my foot and I could feel the dream 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.200 slipping away. And it wasn't enough for me to audition 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:38.280 for ten years and make it on. That wasn't enough. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:40.800 If I was making it on, I was winning. It 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.200 was hitting me hard and I just I just said, 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.520 embrace it, cry and let's go. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:46.880 So I try it. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.880 Do you think the challenges are too hard? Because I 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.560 think I've said this a couple of times this year. 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:54.120 I love a really hectic challenge. The more stressful, the 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.920 more likely you may die, the better. Like that's just me, 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.440 but like we've seen a lot of people getting injured. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.240 Do you think that they need to tone them down, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.160 or what's your feeling about those considering that we have 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:05.320 seen people being sent home. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.240 Yeah, that's hard. I'm a competitor and I've played sport 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.440 my whole life. So for me, if you can test 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.440 yourself physically, that's really important to show the public that 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.040 someone like me who's I'm not a size six, I'm 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.159 not full of muscle, but I can go hard in 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.800 these challenges. And it's like anything in life. You could 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.039 cross the street and still get hurt. So I think 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.560 Survivor does a really good job at pushing our limits 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:35.480 while also trying to keep us safe and accidents, accidents 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.240 do happen. Maybe the one on ones are a. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:39.000 Little bit tricky. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.440 I think if we did more twos on twos it 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.359 could balance the favor. Or even with the pillow in 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.719 the water, that kind of takes the element of hitting 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.520 the ground hard out of it, getting hit. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.159 In the face out of it, all that stuff. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.160 But if you ask anyone that's been injured, would they 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.600 still go as hard as they can in that challenge, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.960 I think they'd probably say yeah, And I would be 0:04:59.000 --> 0:04:59.359 the same. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.640 Yeah, every single one of them I've spoken to so 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.480 many people that have been injured, and like, I had 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:05.720 a friend of mine that did survivor and it took him, 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.479 like I think he said six to nine weeks to 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:10.560 recover physically, and he wasn't hurt in a challenge. He 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.040 just got quite unwell through the sleeping arrangements and all 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.320 that kind of stuff. And I was like, oh, so 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.200 you had a bad time, and he was like, no, 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:18.080 I loved it. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:19.279 Yeah, I'm the same. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:20.520 I got hurt and I was like, I don't know 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:22.200 what you guys are watching. I had the best time 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:22.960 of my life. 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.479 Well, Ben left off camera, so we haven't really heard 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.839 too much about why he left. Do you know much 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.000 about how Ben left? I mean, are you allowed to 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:30.680 share that with us? 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.680 I can only talk about what I saw like out 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.080 in the game, and Ben was a challenge beast, so 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:38.719 seeing him go was quite sad. 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:40.080 And I hope with. 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.680 His sickness and his illness he makes a full recovery 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.120 and I can only wish the best for him. But 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:47.520 in terms of a player, he was a challenge beast 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.279 and that's what really stood out to me. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.480 So I was so, yeah, that's probably how he stood out. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.760 Do you think that people get an automatic pass back 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:56.960 onto the show, Like if you've had to leave early, 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.800 like we've seen with Zen and Ben, are anyone's name 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:01.720 that this three and three letters, do they get an 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.120 automatic pass to come back? Because I feel like they're 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.280 more unresolved than anyone else because their torches aren't snuffed properly. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.839 Yeah, and I think in their heart that's what they want, 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:12.800 and as a fan, I would love to see that. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.960 I love that season they did back in the States 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.320 where there was three people that were medivact and they 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.440 got their second opportunity. I think everyone that had a 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:23.240 good time on the show would say call me whenever you. 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:24.200 Need I'll play again. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.520 But players like Zen, yeah, I think he's a character 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.480 and he should get a second chance. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.720 But I'm also just a nice person and I feel 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.400 like everyone should put me back on. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.960 My theory is rivals versus second chances for next season, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.520 So like you have a rivalry and you were injured, 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.160 so this is almost a bit of a second chance. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.080 Like we need to unpack the ursular situation because I 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.120 chatted to her last week and it was very interesting. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.640 Let me tell you, I was very interested in what 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.920 she unpacked about you how do you see I'm on 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.760 your side of the story because I kind of have 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:04.320 had hers. Now, what was your beef with Ursula personally? 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.560 I didn't have any beef with who Ursula was as 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:08.120 a person. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.040 We were very similar. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.520 We both were really good at observing, and there was 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.640 a few times we would observe and then look at 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.600 each other and realize that we were doing the same thing. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.760 So I never had I don't have any sisters, so 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.400 I felt like I fell into that sister role, that 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.440 younger sister with her. But I never took anything she 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.440 did personally. I was never offended by anything she did. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.800 She was playing a game, and to me it was 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:38.400 two strong women that were competing against each other. And yes, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.040 I rolled my eyes, and that's maturing that I need 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:41.360 to do. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.080 I need to make this more subtle. I can roll 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.800 my eyes in my head, just don't do it. Don't 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:47.480 do it out loud. 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.720 And that's that's me as it's silly to think just 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.640 because we're adults, we don't have room to grow. I 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.960 will always keep maturing and keep growing. And it hurt 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.400 that that upset her. But I think what happened with 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.520 me is I went into the game going. I won't 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.040 be offended. I'm not going to take things personally, fight 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.040 till the end. If you want to go for me, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.120 I'm going to come for you. And I think I 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:10.080 expected everyone to feel that way as well, and they didn't. 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:12.920 And that's okay, Like that's okay that no one. We're 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:14.920 not all playing the same game. So I have a 0:08:14.920 --> 0:08:18.440 lot of respect for Ursula, And in the moment, I 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.040 was like, we're going at it like this is going 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:23.480 to be good, two women going at it. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:24.360 And it was betrayed. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.080 I think a little bit more personal than maybe what 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:31.320 I felt, but that I can't invalidate how she felt. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.600 That's how she felt, you know. She felt that it 0:08:33.720 --> 0:08:35.440 was personal, and that makes me sad. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.080 I think she was struggling with what she could trust 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.880 with you, and what I want to offer you now 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.280 is something she said in the podcast. She said that 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.120 she still doesn't trust you. That she had you over 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.199 for dinner, he had to catch up and it was great, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.520 and she loves you, she actually said, I love her, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:52.679 she said, but do I trust her? I don't know. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.800 So I wonder whether or not she feels like you 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:57.280 talk out the side of your mouth. Do you know 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:58.240 what I mean when I say that. 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:03.280 Yeah, probably, I have a lot of love for Ursla, 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.280 and she's being one of these people that we were 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:10.319 voted out around the same time, so we became quite 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.840 close when this big adventure had finished. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:14.920 And I don't know whether the. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:18.640 Episode brought up some sad feelings for both of us, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.080 and to hear she doesn't trust me again, it's sad, 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:26.600 but I'm not offended because I know that in my 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.160 world my friends do trust me, and that's something I 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.520 might have to work on on with her. But the 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.480 reason why I don't push it a lot is sometimes 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:40.640 I over validate someone else's feelings at the expense of 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.040 my own, and I didn't want I didn't want her journey, 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:46.480 the ending of her journey to be about this rivalry 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:48.800 because she did a lot more than just argue with me, 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:50.559 and it was the same for me. I didn't want 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.240 my journey to be just me fighting with Ursla because 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.160 I did a lot more than just bigger with Ursler. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.600 So I love that she's inclusive. 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.280 She always invites me, and I think that it's a 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.240 really good quality about Ursula. 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:04.200 But I think we have the same qualities is that 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:05.120 we can't fake it. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.760 If we're annoyed with each other, we let each other know, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.319 and it's just a relationship that we'll just have to 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.800 keep have to keep building on. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.280 But for me, there's a lot of love, there's no hate. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.240 She did what she had to do and so did 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.280 I and for me, it was a game, and I 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.319 hope that it doesn't keep spilling into real life. 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.880 I wonder whether or not you are a bit of 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.160 a people pleaser in a way, in the sense that 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.800 you want to make people happy, so you give them 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.080 what you think that you want without necessarily always telling 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.559 people how you're feeling. Is there that that is kind 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.640 of what happens because you can let people down that way? 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.000 Do you know what I mean? Like, if you're not 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.440 being really honest because you're trying to please everyone, people 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:48.280 will think that you're being two faced. Where a danger there? 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.079 Do you know what I mean? Like? There's a day 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.080 trying to be a people pleaser. 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.160 And that's something I'm I am very aware of and 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.200 it's something I'm still trying to manage. 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.760 But I want to make it clear that. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.240 It does come from a good place, It comes from 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.240 a sincere place, and I, yeah, I think sometimes people 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:09.160 just don't get along and it's and it's we got 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.240 along really well outside the game, so I know there's 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.160 that friendship there, and I think sometimes I just have 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:18.600 to say how I truly feel, and then I think 0:11:18.600 --> 0:11:20.880 she has more respect for that instead of me being like, no, 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.520 there's no problem. There's a problem in her eyes, and 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.000 I need to address that. So, yeah, it's a tricky. 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:28.679 It's a tricky situation, but I have a lot of 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.959 love for her, and I think it's very much a 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.800 sister relationship. We're just going to find because we like 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.160 to hear them, we like to hear the sound of 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.920 our own voices. We both want the last word. That's 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:39.439 what it is. 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:41.840 I think one of the reasons why I resonated with 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.800 you as well is that I'm from a family of 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.319 you know, a lot of children, and to be heard, 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.040 you had to be a little bit loud. And I 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.720 saw things in your personality that reminded me of me. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:55.920 And you know what, when you're in a big family 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.439 and there's you know, two pieces of toast, there's three 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.720 people to fight over it, the person who wins is 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.280 sort of the loud and bigger personality. And I wondered 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.520 if I'm just seeing too much of myself and making 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.920 this about me, or whether or not that is something 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.480 that you feel in your personality. Do you feel in 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.640 some situations you have to be loud to be heard. 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:18.080 Yeah, I think that's how all Newton's feel. In this family, 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.240 We just yeah, it's hard to get a point across, 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.280 and then it comes across as a grassive. 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.560 This is my idea. Go with my plan. I've got 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:27.120 the better plan. 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.480 So that definitely translated in the game, and it's just 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.040 something I have to work on. I just have to 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:35.080 be I just have to be gentle. I'm not out 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.280 there with my brothers. We're all on an equal playing field, 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.200 so I need to I need to play it that way. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.240 Not just because you speak louder doesn't mean your point 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:43.840 is correct. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:45.480 Do you know what I wonder whether or not like 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.120 we bring you back in like a rival situation. I 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.200 want to know from you. Do you think we would 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.640 get more of the same between the two of you, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.920 or do you think that we would get a part two? 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.880 Do you think there'd be some evolution in it? 0:12:57.040 --> 0:12:59.960 I have no idea. I have no idea. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.280 I think again, this is I struggle a little bit 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:07.200 with this idea of a rivalry with her because and 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.880 I'm not trying to underplay it, but for me, it wasn't. 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:10.560 This huge thing. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.600 Okay, wasn't this huge thing it and it was for her, 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.120 and I can respect that, but I was also thinking 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.760 about other things. So, for example, with the rich idea, 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:25.760 the possibility to get either Ursla or or I out 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:26.600 was there. 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:27.040 They had the. 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.000 Numbers to do it, they had the crack between her 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.400 and I that they could really exploit it. But I thought, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:33.840 hold on, here's an opportunity to work together. We can 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:36.520 all vote rich and keep our cards a little close 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.080 to our chest. And she couldn't do that for whatever reason. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.720 And that's okay, But that was my way of saying 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:44.360 we can work together. And then when she voted for me, 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.520 I was like, okay, we can't. So whether we come 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.600 back and play again, I don't know if I could 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:52.280 put too much weight or validity on this rivalry, because 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.480 I think a rivalry has to stem from somewhere, and 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.920 for me, there's no hate, there's no We're not in 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.400 a competition anymore. So I'm struggling to say that that 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:03.600 would be a thing for me. 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.840 I think that hate and love to eat very similar things. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.600 And you know what I mean, Like some of my 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:11.800 biggest conflict in my life has come from a place 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.240 of being too close to love. You know, I've done 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.000 reality shows before where there's been conflict, and in retrospect, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.680 I kind of feel like maybe there was a lot 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.160 of love there, do you know what I mean? Maybe 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.040 there was a lot of mirroring going on with those 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.240 with that person, and so I wondered that could be 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:28.600 the same sort of thing for you. 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.640 Yeah, we were so similar and I remember leaning my 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.160 head on a shoulder one day and I thought, oh, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.360 the same person, and she's like, I know, so we 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.920 could laugh about it, and I hope we keep I 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:43.800 hope we keep laughing about it because we've both got 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:46.040 a sixth sense of humor, and I think I think 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.120 we've got more in common then we do that divides us. 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.080 Before you go, I need to quickly ask you two 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.440 quick things. We saw some double epic double crossing in 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.880 the end of this week's episodes with Zara and Laura, 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:01.320 and I just think that that was so juicy because like, 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.560 I don't know where that's going to go. Who whose 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.720 side are you on. Are you team Zara or team Laura. 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.840 Oh, I think I'm team Laura. Don't come with me, Zara. 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.560 I think I'm team Laura because I think she can 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.240 recognize where she made the mistake. She's you know, she 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.560 shouldn't have told Look, we see this all the time. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.880 Stop telling people about your advantage of disguis. So I 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:24.840 think I'm team Laura because I think she handled it. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:28.120 I think she handled it quite well. Yes, she was upset, 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.840 And this is what I get frustrated at is when 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.400 specifically women get upset, it then becomes this huge negative 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.200 thing that's going to ruin their game. 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:40.360 And it might, but just because something has happened to 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:42.560 her that has made her upset, she's allowed to be upset. 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.400 Whether she shows Zara that is her gameplay, but she's 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.640 allowed to feel her feelings. So I think she's handling 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.000 quite well. And I also think she's quick to adapt. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.240 She's like, Okay, Zara, don't hold me here. I've got 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.040 to move on. And the best way to move on 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.440 is to throw her under the bus. And I'm a 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.880 big believer in driving this bus and running over people. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.800 So I'm team Law in no other world except Survivor, 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.640 Can you just want to run someone over with a truck? 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:10.320 Right before you go? I have to ask you my 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.000 last question. What is something from behind the scenes, something 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:14.920 that we as viewer didn't get a chance to see. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.960 I thought of asking you something quite specific. You know, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.840 when it comes to having a beef with someone in 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:24.080 a show and then going home and having time to 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.360 sort of think about it, how are you allowed to 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.360 approach that like? Is in do you can you speak 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.200 to producers say I want to reach out to that person? 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.280 Or is that a no no? Like? How do you 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.000 try and build some bridges after the show comes to 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:36.400 an end? 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.440 I think Survivor Australia we're very lucky that it is 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.800 this one big, close community. More people have gone to 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.600 Space than they've played this version of Survivor, so we're 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:49.400 very lucky that there is a lot of past reach 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.760 out and check up on you, you see how you're going, 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:56.880 and special season. But we knew also every time someone 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.320 gets voted out, it's we're going to be ends at 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.520 the end of the day. So even when Nash went out, 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.240 he went out with a smile, Ursula went out with 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.200 a smile. I went out with a smile, and I 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.880 knew when this was all over, i'd be at Nash's 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.000 for a barbecue and we'd all talk about how why did. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.000 We do this crazy thing? So in terms of being 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:14.720 able to reach. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.919 Out, it's been very easy, and I think we're all 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.080 pretty good at putting the ball in each other's court 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:23.120 and just being patient with each other. But the survivor 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.520 community is an insane family that I never thought i'd 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.639 have the privilege of being a part of. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.800