Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
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Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I want to thank you
Speaker 1: for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Noonan the
Speaker 1: only eliminated Australian Survivor player. After a week of unpredictable twists,
Speaker 1: this fourth week of the show, we saw another original
Speaker 1: Braun player getting booted, and we are going to get
Speaker 1: some hot takes on why Noonon was eliminated and what
Speaker 1: she thinks of this week's gameplay. From her surviving Survivors,
Speaker 1: Noona will talk about her relationship with Ursula and what
Speaker 1: she really thinks of their friendship. Now noon will share
Speaker 1: her thoughts on the challenges and if they are proving
Speaker 1: to be too dangerous. I will find out about Noonan's
Speaker 1: family and what her brothers thought of her time on
Speaker 1: the show. You will get everything from Noonan's take on
Speaker 1: the drama between Laura and Zara, what she thinks of
Speaker 1: the post show Survivor community, and what she thinks of
Speaker 1: My Rivals theme for next year. There's actually so much
Speaker 1: to talk about with so many inside revelations, so guys
Speaker 1: sit back and relax. As we unpacked the wonderful world
Speaker 1: of a Strand Survivor, which is back this week on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night on Network ten. Hi, Nowdon, how are you good?
Speaker 2: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to be talking to you because I
Speaker 1: really loved you on this show. Thanks my gosh. It's
Speaker 1: such a high stressed environment and it can be nothing
Speaker 1: like what you expected. How does it all land for you?
Speaker 1: Now you've auditioned, you've gotten on, You've been able to
Speaker 1: wait months to watch it, and they've seen it. How
Speaker 1: does it feel?
Speaker 3: I have never loved Survivor more than I do right now.
Speaker 2: It's like the first love that you'd never let go of.
Speaker 3: I am such a fan and I'm so proud of myself.
Speaker 3: That's all I'm overwhelmed with right now. So I love it.
Speaker 3: It didn't change any Survivor magic for me. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I love it more than I do now
Speaker 3: than I did when I before I went out.
Speaker 1: How have you been watching it? Have you had your
Speaker 1: brothers there? Because I know that you were talking about
Speaker 1: the fact that you know this is your time to shine.
Speaker 1: Did your rink bring them in instead of show them
Speaker 1: how good you are?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For the first out. We watched it at the
Speaker 2: footy club and what was their reaction?
Speaker 3: They were in tears. They were so proud. Even when
Speaker 3: I went home they cried.
Speaker 1: You know, when you arrived there and you sort of
Speaker 1: assessed the situation, did you have any idea how long
Speaker 1: you thought you would stick around for like you've met
Speaker 1: all the other people. Did you go, I'm here for
Speaker 1: a long time? Or did you think you were pushing
Speaker 1: up a hill? Like? What was it? What was it like?
Speaker 1: In real time?
Speaker 2: I thought I'd make it quite deep.
Speaker 3: I was confident that there was more threats around me.
Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't think I stood out too much,
Speaker 3: and I knew my social skills were quite strong, so
Speaker 3: I thought I could adapt quite quickly. So when tribes
Speaker 3: what came, I was ready, was ready to adapt and
Speaker 3: talk to new people, And unfortunately I just fell short
Speaker 3: of like the next phase in the game. But it
Speaker 3: was a wicked tribal, so I was like, heck, yeah,
Speaker 3: two idols, I'll take that.
Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. I was thinking about how this show takes
Speaker 1: its toll on people. This season, more than any other
Speaker 1: season that I can remember. We've seen people leaving the
Speaker 1: comp petition because of how grueling it is. What was
Speaker 1: it for you? Because I mean in your final episode
Speaker 1: you looked a bit beaten and worn down. What had
Speaker 1: happened for you in that In regards to all of that, Oh, it's.
Speaker 2: Hard to explain.
Speaker 3: It was like I had an idea and know it
Speaker 3: was like I was screaming and no one could hear me.
Speaker 3: I was like, there's this clear plan we could all
Speaker 3: go with and it benefits everyone. And they listened, but
Speaker 3: they didn't help. And then to be injured, it was
Speaker 3: like twenty years of love for this show came crashing
Speaker 3: down on my foot and I could feel the dream
Speaker 3: slipping away. And it wasn't enough for me to audition
Speaker 3: for ten years and make it on. That wasn't enough.
Speaker 3: If I was making it on, I was winning. It
Speaker 3: was hitting me hard and I just I just said,
Speaker 3: embrace it, cry and let's go.
Speaker 2: So I try it.
Speaker 1: Do you think the challenges are too hard? Because I
Speaker 1: think I've said this a couple of times this year.
Speaker 1: I love a really hectic challenge. The more stressful, the
Speaker 1: more likely you may die, the better. Like that's just me,
Speaker 1: but like we've seen a lot of people getting injured.
Speaker 1: Do you think that they need to tone them down,
Speaker 1: or what's your feeling about those considering that we have
Speaker 1: seen people being sent home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's hard. I'm a competitor and I've played sport
Speaker 3: my whole life. So for me, if you can test
Speaker 3: yourself physically, that's really important to show the public that
Speaker 3: someone like me who's I'm not a size six, I'm
Speaker 3: not full of muscle, but I can go hard in
Speaker 3: these challenges. And it's like anything in life. You could
Speaker 3: cross the street and still get hurt. So I think
Speaker 3: Survivor does a really good job at pushing our limits
Speaker 3: while also trying to keep us safe and accidents, accidents
Speaker 3: do happen. Maybe the one on ones are a.
Speaker 2: Little bit tricky.
Speaker 3: I think if we did more twos on twos it
Speaker 3: could balance the favor. Or even with the pillow in
Speaker 3: the water, that kind of takes the element of hitting
Speaker 3: the ground hard out of it, getting hit.
Speaker 2: In the face out of it, all that stuff.
Speaker 3: But if you ask anyone that's been injured, would they
Speaker 3: still go as hard as they can in that challenge,
Speaker 3: I think they'd probably say yeah, And I would be
Speaker 3: the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every single one of them I've spoken to so
Speaker 1: many people that have been injured, and like, I had
Speaker 1: a friend of mine that did survivor and it took him,
Speaker 1: like I think he said six to nine weeks to
Speaker 1: recover physically, and he wasn't hurt in a challenge. He
Speaker 1: just got quite unwell through the sleeping arrangements and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I was like, oh, so
Speaker 1: you had a bad time, and he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm the same.
Speaker 3: I got hurt and I was like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what you guys are watching. I had the best time
Speaker 3: of my life.
Speaker 1: Well, Ben left off camera, so we haven't really heard
Speaker 1: too much about why he left. Do you know much
Speaker 1: about how Ben left? I mean, are you allowed to
Speaker 1: share that with us?
Speaker 3: I can only talk about what I saw like out
Speaker 3: in the game, and Ben was a challenge beast, so
Speaker 3: seeing him go was quite sad.
Speaker 2: And I hope with.
Speaker 3: His sickness and his illness he makes a full recovery
Speaker 3: and I can only wish the best for him. But
Speaker 3: in terms of a player, he was a challenge beast
Speaker 3: and that's what really stood out to me.
Speaker 2: So I was so, yeah, that's probably how he stood out.
Speaker 1: Do you think that people get an automatic pass back
Speaker 1: onto the show, Like if you've had to leave early,
Speaker 1: like we've seen with Zen and Ben, are anyone's name
Speaker 1: that this three and three letters, do they get an
Speaker 1: automatic pass to come back? Because I feel like they're
Speaker 1: more unresolved than anyone else because their torches aren't snuffed properly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think in their heart that's what they want,
Speaker 3: and as a fan, I would love to see that.
Speaker 3: I love that season they did back in the States
Speaker 3: where there was three people that were medivact and they
Speaker 3: got their second opportunity. I think everyone that had a
Speaker 3: good time on the show would say call me whenever you.
Speaker 2: Need I'll play again.
Speaker 3: But players like Zen, yeah, I think he's a character
Speaker 3: and he should get a second chance.
Speaker 2: But I'm also just a nice person and I feel
Speaker 2: like everyone should put me back on.
Speaker 1: My theory is rivals versus second chances for next season,
Speaker 1: So like you have a rivalry and you were injured,
Speaker 1: so this is almost a bit of a second chance.
Speaker 1: Like we need to unpack the ursular situation because I
Speaker 1: chatted to her last week and it was very interesting.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I was very interested in what
Speaker 1: she unpacked about you how do you see I'm on
Speaker 1: your side of the story because I kind of have
Speaker 1: had hers. Now, what was your beef with Ursula personally?
Speaker 3: I didn't have any beef with who Ursula was as
Speaker 3: a person.
Speaker 2: We were very similar.
Speaker 3: We both were really good at observing, and there was
Speaker 3: a few times we would observe and then look at
Speaker 3: each other and realize that we were doing the same thing.
Speaker 3: So I never had I don't have any sisters, so
Speaker 3: I felt like I fell into that sister role, that
Speaker 3: younger sister with her. But I never took anything she
Speaker 3: did personally. I was never offended by anything she did.
Speaker 3: She was playing a game, and to me it was
Speaker 3: two strong women that were competing against each other. And yes,
Speaker 3: I rolled my eyes, and that's maturing that I need
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 2: I need to make this more subtle. I can roll
Speaker 2: my eyes in my head, just don't do it. Don't
Speaker 2: do it out loud.
Speaker 3: And that's that's me as it's silly to think just
Speaker 3: because we're adults, we don't have room to grow. I
Speaker 3: will always keep maturing and keep growing. And it hurt
Speaker 3: that that upset her. But I think what happened with
Speaker 3: me is I went into the game going. I won't
Speaker 3: be offended. I'm not going to take things personally, fight
Speaker 3: till the end. If you want to go for me,
Speaker 3: I'm going to come for you. And I think I
Speaker 3: expected everyone to feel that way as well, and they didn't.
Speaker 3: And that's okay, Like that's okay that no one. We're
Speaker 3: not all playing the same game. So I have a
Speaker 3: lot of respect for Ursula, And in the moment, I
Speaker 3: was like, we're going at it like this is going
Speaker 3: to be good, two women going at it.
Speaker 2: And it was betrayed.
Speaker 3: I think a little bit more personal than maybe what
Speaker 3: I felt, but that I can't invalidate how she felt.
Speaker 3: That's how she felt, you know. She felt that it
Speaker 3: was personal, and that makes me sad.
Speaker 1: I think she was struggling with what she could trust
Speaker 1: with you, and what I want to offer you now
Speaker 1: is something she said in the podcast. She said that
Speaker 1: she still doesn't trust you. That she had you over
Speaker 1: for dinner, he had to catch up and it was great,
Speaker 1: and she loves you, she actually said, I love her,
Speaker 1: she said, but do I trust her? I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I wonder whether or not she feels like you
Speaker 1: talk out the side of your mouth. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean when I say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, I have a lot of love for Ursla,
Speaker 3: and she's being one of these people that we were
Speaker 3: voted out around the same time, so we became quite
Speaker 3: close when this big adventure had finished.
Speaker 2: And I don't know whether the.
Speaker 3: Episode brought up some sad feelings for both of us,
Speaker 3: and to hear she doesn't trust me again, it's sad,
Speaker 3: but I'm not offended because I know that in my
Speaker 3: world my friends do trust me, and that's something I
Speaker 3: might have to work on on with her. But the
Speaker 3: reason why I don't push it a lot is sometimes
Speaker 3: I over validate someone else's feelings at the expense of
Speaker 3: my own, and I didn't want I didn't want her journey,
Speaker 3: the ending of her journey to be about this rivalry
Speaker 3: because she did a lot more than just argue with me,
Speaker 3: and it was the same for me. I didn't want
Speaker 3: my journey to be just me fighting with Ursla because
Speaker 3: I did a lot more than just bigger with Ursler.
Speaker 2: So I love that she's inclusive.
Speaker 3: She always invites me, and I think that it's a
Speaker 3: really good quality about Ursula.
Speaker 2: But I think we have the same qualities is that
Speaker 2: we can't fake it.
Speaker 3: If we're annoyed with each other, we let each other know,
Speaker 3: and it's just a relationship that we'll just have to
Speaker 3: keep have to keep building on.
Speaker 2: But for me, there's a lot of love, there's no hate.
Speaker 3: She did what she had to do and so did
Speaker 3: I and for me, it was a game, and I
Speaker 3: hope that it doesn't keep spilling into real life.
Speaker 1: I wonder whether or not you are a bit of
Speaker 1: a people pleaser in a way, in the sense that
Speaker 1: you want to make people happy, so you give them
Speaker 1: what you think that you want without necessarily always telling
Speaker 1: people how you're feeling. Is there that that is kind
Speaker 1: of what happens because you can let people down that way?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like, if you're not
Speaker 1: being really honest because you're trying to please everyone, people
Speaker 1: will think that you're being two faced. Where a danger there?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like? There's a day
Speaker 1: trying to be a people pleaser.
Speaker 3: And that's something I'm I am very aware of and
Speaker 3: it's something I'm still trying to manage.
Speaker 2: But I want to make it clear that.
Speaker 3: It does come from a good place, It comes from
Speaker 3: a sincere place, and I, yeah, I think sometimes people
Speaker 3: just don't get along and it's and it's we got
Speaker 3: along really well outside the game, so I know there's
Speaker 3: that friendship there, and I think sometimes I just have
Speaker 3: to say how I truly feel, and then I think
Speaker 3: she has more respect for that instead of me being like, no,
Speaker 3: there's no problem. There's a problem in her eyes, and
Speaker 3: I need to address that. So, yeah, it's a tricky.
Speaker 3: It's a tricky situation, but I have a lot of
Speaker 3: love for her, and I think it's very much a
Speaker 3: sister relationship. We're just going to find because we like
Speaker 3: to hear them, we like to hear the sound of
Speaker 3: our own voices. We both want the last word. That's
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why I resonated with
Speaker 1: you as well is that I'm from a family of
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of children, and to be heard,
Speaker 1: you had to be a little bit loud. And I
Speaker 1: saw things in your personality that reminded me of me.
Speaker 1: And you know what, when you're in a big family
Speaker 1: and there's you know, two pieces of toast, there's three
Speaker 1: people to fight over it, the person who wins is
Speaker 1: sort of the loud and bigger personality. And I wondered
Speaker 1: if I'm just seeing too much of myself and making
Speaker 1: this about me, or whether or not that is something
Speaker 1: that you feel in your personality. Do you feel in
Speaker 1: some situations you have to be loud to be heard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's how all Newton's feel. In this family,
Speaker 3: We just yeah, it's hard to get a point across,
Speaker 3: and then it comes across as a grassive.
Speaker 2: This is my idea. Go with my plan. I've got
Speaker 2: the better plan.
Speaker 3: So that definitely translated in the game, and it's just
Speaker 3: something I have to work on. I just have to
Speaker 3: be I just have to be gentle. I'm not out
Speaker 3: there with my brothers. We're all on an equal playing field,
Speaker 3: so I need to I need to play it that way.
Speaker 3: Not just because you speak louder doesn't mean your point
Speaker 3: is correct.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I wonder whether or not like
Speaker 1: we bring you back in like a rival situation. I
Speaker 1: want to know from you. Do you think we would
Speaker 1: get more of the same between the two of you,
Speaker 1: or do you think that we would get a part two?
Speaker 1: Do you think there'd be some evolution in it?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I think again, this is I struggle a little bit
Speaker 3: with this idea of a rivalry with her because and
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to underplay it, but for me, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: This huge thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, wasn't this huge thing it and it was for her,
Speaker 3: and I can respect that, but I was also thinking
Speaker 3: about other things. So, for example, with the rich idea,
Speaker 3: the possibility to get either Ursla or or I out
Speaker 3: was there.
Speaker 2: They had the.
Speaker 3: Numbers to do it, they had the crack between her
Speaker 3: and I that they could really exploit it. But I thought,
Speaker 3: hold on, here's an opportunity to work together. We can
Speaker 3: all vote rich and keep our cards a little close
Speaker 3: to our chest. And she couldn't do that for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: And that's okay, But that was my way of saying
Speaker 3: we can work together. And then when she voted for me,
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, we can't. So whether we come
Speaker 3: back and play again, I don't know if I could
Speaker 3: put too much weight or validity on this rivalry, because
Speaker 3: I think a rivalry has to stem from somewhere, and
Speaker 3: for me, there's no hate, there's no We're not in
Speaker 3: a competition anymore. So I'm struggling to say that that
Speaker 3: would be a thing for me.
Speaker 1: I think that hate and love to eat very similar things.
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, Like some of my
Speaker 1: biggest conflict in my life has come from a place
Speaker 1: of being too close to love. You know, I've done
Speaker 1: reality shows before where there's been conflict, and in retrospect,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like maybe there was a lot
Speaker 1: of love there, do you know what I mean? Maybe
Speaker 1: there was a lot of mirroring going on with those
Speaker 1: with that person, and so I wondered that could be
Speaker 1: the same sort of thing for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were so similar and I remember leaning my
Speaker 3: head on a shoulder one day and I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: the same person, and she's like, I know, so we
Speaker 3: could laugh about it, and I hope we keep I
Speaker 3: hope we keep laughing about it because we've both got
Speaker 3: a sixth sense of humor, and I think I think
Speaker 3: we've got more in common then we do that divides us.
Speaker 1: Before you go, I need to quickly ask you two
Speaker 1: quick things. We saw some double epic double crossing in
Speaker 1: the end of this week's episodes with Zara and Laura,
Speaker 1: and I just think that that was so juicy because like,
Speaker 1: I don't know where that's going to go. Who whose
Speaker 1: side are you on. Are you team Zara or team Laura.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think I'm team Laura. Don't come with me, Zara.
Speaker 3: I think I'm team Laura because I think she can
Speaker 3: recognize where she made the mistake. She's you know, she
Speaker 3: shouldn't have told Look, we see this all the time.
Speaker 3: Stop telling people about your advantage of disguis. So I
Speaker 3: think I'm team Laura because I think she handled it.
Speaker 3: I think she handled it quite well. Yes, she was upset,
Speaker 3: And this is what I get frustrated at is when
Speaker 3: specifically women get upset, it then becomes this huge negative
Speaker 3: thing that's going to ruin their game.
Speaker 2: And it might, but just because something has happened to
Speaker 2: her that has made her upset, she's allowed to be upset.
Speaker 3: Whether she shows Zara that is her gameplay, but she's
Speaker 3: allowed to feel her feelings. So I think she's handling
Speaker 3: quite well. And I also think she's quick to adapt.
Speaker 3: She's like, Okay, Zara, don't hold me here. I've got
Speaker 3: to move on. And the best way to move on
Speaker 3: is to throw her under the bus. And I'm a
Speaker 3: big believer in driving this bus and running over people.
Speaker 1: So I'm team Law in no other world except Survivor,
Speaker 1: Can you just want to run someone over with a truck?
Speaker 1: Right before you go? I have to ask you my
Speaker 1: last question. What is something from behind the scenes, something
Speaker 1: that we as viewer didn't get a chance to see.
Speaker 1: I thought of asking you something quite specific. You know,
Speaker 1: when it comes to having a beef with someone in
Speaker 1: a show and then going home and having time to
Speaker 1: sort of think about it, how are you allowed to
Speaker 1: approach that like? Is in do you can you speak
Speaker 1: to producers say I want to reach out to that person?
Speaker 1: Or is that a no no? Like? How do you
Speaker 1: try and build some bridges after the show comes to
Speaker 1: an end?
Speaker 3: I think Survivor Australia we're very lucky that it is
Speaker 3: this one big, close community. More people have gone to
Speaker 3: Space than they've played this version of Survivor, so we're
Speaker 3: very lucky that there is a lot of past reach
Speaker 3: out and check up on you, you see how you're going,
Speaker 3: and special season. But we knew also every time someone
Speaker 3: gets voted out, it's we're going to be ends at
Speaker 3: the end of the day. So even when Nash went out,
Speaker 3: he went out with a smile, Ursula went out with
Speaker 3: a smile. I went out with a smile, and I
Speaker 3: knew when this was all over, i'd be at Nash's
Speaker 3: for a barbecue and we'd all talk about how why did.
Speaker 2: We do this crazy thing? So in terms of being
Speaker 2: able to reach.
Speaker 3: Out, it's been very easy, and I think we're all
Speaker 3: pretty good at putting the ball in each other's court
Speaker 3: and just being patient with each other. But the survivor
Speaker 3: community is an insane family that I never thought i'd
Speaker 3: have the privilege of being a part of.
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with you. Cann't wait to reinvest in
Speaker 1: your story. I have to run really quick because I'm
Speaker 1: going into another podcast, but I wish that I could
Speaker 1: talk to you for three days. I will talk to
Speaker 1: you