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Speaker 1: Hi there and welcome to two Good Sports. Sports news

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Speaker 1: told differently. I'm Georgie Tunny.

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Speaker 3: That's brand new information. I'm happy. Tell me.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited for this week's topic because we're talking

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Speaker 2: all about the jack jumpers and their success in the NBL. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we talked about Tasmania last week. We may as well

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Speaker 2: be TASMANI we would like to lobby to be part

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Speaker 2: of the island state. But it is just the most remarkable,

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Speaker 2: almost cinematic story their rise to success, and we're excited

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Speaker 2: to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: But first, it's good sport, bad sport. George, over to you.

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Speaker 1: So mine this week. I'm awarding a bad sport. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know to a twenty two year old man who

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Speaker 3: What a dickhead? Thank you? I was going crazy.

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Speaker 1: Now I've been talking to people about strong Man and

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Speaker 1: its great atmosphere. It's electric when you think someone's going

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: This man who decided to invade the pitch.

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Speaker 3: Has also now.

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Speaker 1: Felt the very hefty, hefty arm of the law of

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Speaker 1: AFLW any game for life seas twenty two full life.

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Speaker 1: He's also been banned from attending anything at the Adelaide

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Speaker 2: The Adelaide Oval handed down their sanction first, and we're like,

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Speaker 2: what are the AFL going to do? The bit that

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Speaker 3: Yes, was remarkable. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And this wasn't a streaker because I know everyone can

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Speaker 1: kind of you know the day of old where people like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's a street. Can you just remember Andrew Simon's like

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Speaker 2: I think even Alicia Healy's shoulder charge someone recently that

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Speaker 3: This is so unnecessary, though so unnecessary.

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Speaker 2: Bit that got me in I was like, ba, this

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Speaker 3: Bad spot, badsport grower, don't do it.

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Speaker 1: He can appeal his lifetime ban in five years, so

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Speaker 2: It's got a very Adelaide theme of which we just

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Speaker 2: To me, the definition of a good sport is someone

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Speaker 1: and my god, have the jack Jumpers really shown up

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Speaker 3: In the league or in existence for what is it,

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Speaker 3: four years? Three years? Three years, three years they've been

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Speaker 2: Well, it's the most remarkable story and it's also a

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Speaker 2: human story. You and I love the headlines, but we

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Speaker 3: And this is all behind a big, burly.

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Speaker 2: Man in his sixties from the US in Scott Roth

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Speaker 2: and we'll get into his story later, but the fact

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Speaker 2: and said, I don't want to be this bloke from

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Speaker 2: hearts and the imaginations of Tasmania. Engagement in basketball is

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Speaker 2: team and what they've done. And it's not because again

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Speaker 2: this has to be a film. They're not the most talented,

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Speaker 2: the galamor club. Yes, Perth Wildcats are the most successful,

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Speaker 3: They're intricated in the city.

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Speaker 1: And so you were saying that for the jack jumpers,

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Speaker 3: They're going to walk past us and we'll be like, wow,

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Speaker 1: We're not thinking that is an NBL player necessarily. However,

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Speaker 1: the events of this playoff series may have gone some

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Speaker 2: Jack McVeigh and that shot that he made in Game

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Speaker 3: It is the greatest shot in NBL history. To set

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Speaker 2: It's a buzzer beater, there's only two seconds on the

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Speaker 3: Here's the jack jumper sets tell the clock, play.

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Speaker 1: Jack Bavine life.

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Speaker 2: It was one of those ones that I just watched

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Speaker 1: Like again crazy that like if in my mind, if

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Speaker 3: There is a sense of magic, there's a sense of luck.

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Speaker 1: And then yet your teammates are like, nah, he does

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Speaker 1: It's like, I've often thought, what would it be like

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Speaker 1: to be Steph Curry? You know, when Steph Curry was

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Speaker 2: It still is, well, his trick shots, his trick shots

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Speaker 2: I love that you mentioned Steph Curry. Yes, Because there's

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Speaker 2: an article in The Mercury that says Tasmania jack Jumper's

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Speaker 2: coach Scott Roth says NBL championship is the moment of

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Speaker 2: his life. And when the first sentence reads a little

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Speaker 2: like Tasmania Jack Jumper's coach, Scott Roth has guarded magic.

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Speaker 3: Than winning the NBL Championship.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to put this into the proper

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Speaker 1: for a team that is technically only three and a

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Speaker 1: We know that they've just been given an AFL team

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Speaker 1: jack Jumpers. And I remember I was working in breakfast

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Speaker 3: What is this the jig?

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Speaker 1: It's cashy, God, it's catchy. Like I was on board

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Speaker 1: me be David Attenborough for a second. The team, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I thought of David Addon. A voice was coming so strong. There,

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Speaker 3: come on, let's try.

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Speaker 1: Okay, a venomous ant that can jump long distances. The

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Speaker 1: ant is mostly found in Tasmania and Southeast Mainland Australia.

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Speaker 1: They also can jump up to ten centimeters high, a

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Speaker 1: little ant jumping up and down. Some say like a

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, David Attenborough. So what to get

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Speaker 3: that regard it to do good sports? Thank you? So,

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Speaker 3: David Adden, probably really appreciate your time. You're so much

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Speaker 3: a big fan of the show. Off your fact. But

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Speaker 3: it's an ant.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a really annoying ant that if you got

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Speaker 3: Defend the Island.

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Speaker 2: And this is why I just think that he is

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Speaker 1: And can just see it. This is the start of

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Speaker 3: That's the opening scene. It's just him knocking on a door.

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Speaker 2: And he basically said, you know, Tasmania is a special place.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very Tasmanian thing to see exactly.

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Speaker 2: Not even we want to come along for the ride.

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Speaker 2: But if they're going to represent us, they need to

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Speaker 1: Okay, so they're like they wanted to be ingrained. They

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Speaker 2: Was put to if you're going to represent Tasmania, And

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hang on a second, this is that team that

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's crazy that he's been able to do this.

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Speaker 2: And he created twenty three Bloodline members that will former players, referees,

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Speaker 2: But again we referenced this, this was David and Goliath stuff,

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Speaker 1: No, there's no household names. Really, Jack mcvaham, sorry, but

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Speaker 3: The MVP of the series yes, yes, and if you

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Speaker 1: Through the results of the championship series, or let's just

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Speaker 3: Everyone.

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Speaker 1: They defeated then Melbourne United three games to two in

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Speaker 2: If you haven't watched this series, carve yourself out in afternoon.

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Speaker 3: And watch them back to back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good. They lost Game four, which means

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Speaker 3: Five was the decider, which always.

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Speaker 1: Happens in basketball. Can I just say it is freaky

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Speaker 2: And it comes down to like in all of these games,

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Speaker 2: You'd almost prefer to be losing with five minutes to

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Speaker 2: go with how that this series has gone because whoever

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Speaker 3: It's why you watch sport, Yeah, totally, It's.

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Speaker 1: Why you watch sport because you want to get that

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Speaker 2: When you watch and please go watch and consume all

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Speaker 2: He's this big clearly played NBA y blubbering mess. Is

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Speaker 2: so gracious to Melbourne United, is so gracious to the staff,

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Speaker 2: And the thing is they got a heroes welcome and

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Speaker 2: But then also when they returned to Tazzy there were

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Speaker 3: Great because it belongs to them, it belongs to everyone.

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Speaker 2: There is something so beautiful about a character in sport

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Speaker 3: See he's like, cigars are very expensive in Australia.

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Speaker 2: His fast time was a very different occupy because he does.

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Speaker 3: It in a nod to you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's the opening scene of the movie in your head, Jillmy.

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Speaker 1: In sporting movies, I mean, coaches have been represented so

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Speaker 3: You remember the time, remember the Titans, Denzel Washington. I

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Speaker 3: mean this has given coach Carter to me, this is

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Speaker 1: Jadason like, this is you're taking all the misfits, no offense,

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Speaker 1: Jack Johnsons, You're taking all the misfits, and you are

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Speaker 2: there are role players that might only get four or

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Speaker 2: five minutes of actual game time, but their culture establishes

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Speaker 2: exactly they're the ones that actually around the group, drive

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Speaker 2: the processes, drive the commitment. And he seems like a

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Speaker 2: very regimented, very you know, hard work and grit and

446
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Speaker 2: determination sports team.

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Speaker 1: There only good sports on his team, is what I

448
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Speaker 1: is what I'm gauging. And so this is their first championship.

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Speaker 1: I really can only see more success in their future.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is how they've started. If they can

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Speaker 1: keep Scott there with them, I mean he's probably created

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Speaker 1: even enough now that someone eventually when they take.

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Speaker 3: Over, hopefully they keep this culture going.

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Speaker 1: But I can only see more success, and it is

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Speaker 1: no surprise that people are wanting to get in on

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Speaker 1: that action.

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Speaker 2: They're the team that you just want to support, you

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Speaker 2: want to get around. They're everyone's favorite team, honestly, and

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Speaker 2: that's where I found it extremely difficult reading the news

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Speaker 2: in Melbourne, being like.

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Speaker 3: The jack Jumpers are one the first time.

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Speaker 2: Sad for Melbourne United, so so sad for our target audience,

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Speaker 2: because I just think there are some stories that are

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Speaker 2: bigger than sport, and there are some stories that remind

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Speaker 2: you about how good, humble, hardworking people can unite and

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Speaker 2: create a feeling of togetherness. And I think in a

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Speaker 2: world where there's so much divisive stuff going on, what

468
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: the jack Jumpers have created in Tazzy is so unbelievably

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Speaker 2: cool and it's everything that we love about sport.

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Speaker 1: It's a good news story for everyone to get behind.

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Speaker 1: Tell me it's that time?

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Speaker 3: What time? Fun fact time? Oh, here for it. It's

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Speaker 3: our favorite time. Did you know? I feel like we

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Speaker 3: should kept thinking music? Did you know? Bumba?

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Speaker 1: There are more defunct teams in the history of the

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Speaker 1: NBL than there are current clubs in the competition.

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Speaker 3: So there's ten current teams in the competition.

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Speaker 1: However, there have been thirty seven teams come and go

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Speaker 1: in this competition.

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Speaker 2: Riegs of stability, doesn't it given it's only been around

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Speaker 2: since like the late seventies.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, there was a.

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Speaker 1: Team called the Saint Kilda Saints in nineteen seventy nine

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Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety one and they couldn't last.

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Speaker 3: The Singapore Slingers.

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Speaker 1: Competed in the NBL between two thousand and six and.

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Speaker 3: They've even got a cocktail. Yeah, I mean, it's just stunny.

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Speaker 3: It's a shame that they that they've left me.

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Speaker 2: But there are some teams that are quite famous that

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Speaker 2: are no longer in it. Like I think there was

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Speaker 2: Melbourne Dragons.

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Speaker 1: The Dragons, I feel like it haven't wasn't weren't the

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Speaker 1: Bullets a thing? And then they left. This is a

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Speaker 1: Brisbane Bullets. Then they left and then they've come back.

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Speaker 1: Now the Bullets are now thing for sure. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: they've definitely lost some time out of the game. So

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Speaker 1: there's at least even if they if they don't disappear completely,

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Speaker 1: they at least go on hiatus.

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Speaker 3: I think it takes second.

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Speaker 2: The NBL structure used to take a lot of private ownership. Yes,

501
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: so basically it took someone to really want to own

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Speaker 2: the team and to fund it for it to be successful.

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Speaker 2: And I think we've used the term financial element a

504
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: lot in these podcasts, but I think sometimes if a

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Speaker 2: team's not being successful and you're bleeding money and it's

506
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: no longer fun, they go, oh, I can't be bothered.

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Speaker 2: And if the big pin gets pulled out all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, you lack that stability.

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Speaker 3: That's devastating for all the fans.

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Speaker 2: I'm well, the Singapore Slings of Slingers. I don't know

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Speaker 2: if they really had an impact from two thousand and

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Speaker 2: six to two thousand and nine because I can't remember them.

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Speaker 2: But that's where someone like Larry Kesselman, who is such

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Speaker 2: a business mind, has been able to steady the ship

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00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 2: so amazingly since twenty fifteen, and how much we've seen

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Speaker 2: the product grow in the NBL to somewhere where you

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Speaker 2: do have Andrew Bogot come back and play in the NBL,

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Speaker 2: You've got Matthew Delivet over playing.

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Speaker 3: But you've also got rumors.

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Speaker 2: That baby Lebron might come Baby Lebron baby not King James,

521
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Speaker 2: but like Lebron Jr. Lebron Junior up, he's.

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Speaker 3: Going to cut his tea.

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Speaker 2: I mean, lots of players, these damers circulated by the NBL,

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Speaker 2: who knows, I love them though, what but there is

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Speaker 2: it is actually becoming a league where you can cut

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Speaker 2: your teeth.

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Speaker 3: Yea percent.

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Speaker 1: People are choosing this, genuinely choosing this overplaying sometimes amateurble

529
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Speaker 1: or college ball in the States, so they play here

530
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Speaker 1: before they get.

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Speaker 2: And the feeder system over there is so very different.

532
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Speaker 2: But that is a thirty seventeen thirty seventeams.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, that's nuts.

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Speaker 1: And it's also just again testament to what Scott Roth

535
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Speaker 1: and everyone behind the jack Jumpers have been able to do,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you'd be living in fear that your

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Speaker 1: team was going to disappear.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to compile the best mascots that have come

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Speaker 2: and gone in this time and put them up on

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Speaker 2: out two good sports.

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Speaker 1: State story Good. What does the Slinger look like? What

542
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Speaker 1: is it a cowboy? Is it a cocktail?

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Speaker 3: Is it a cocktail like? What? What was your mascot?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Producer James has shown us a photo and it is

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Speaker 1: what I can only describe as I'll go Dave Attenborough again,

547
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Speaker 1: a prehistoric rabbit who has got hold of the nuclear codes.

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Speaker 1: That is the mascot we're gonna put this up on

549
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Speaker 1: our stories because I can't describe that other than it

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Speaker 1: looks like a rabbit.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, that is just a perfect fun

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Speaker 2: fact because who knew that even existed? And where is

553
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: that costume now? But thank you for listening to two

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Speaker 2: good sports Jack jumpers.

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Speaker 3: We love it. Yeah, we love We have Jack jumped

556
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Speaker 3: on board. We have Jack jumped right on board.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully guys you can as well, because this team is

558
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Speaker 1: for everyone. Melbourne United fans, look, sorry, not sorry, because

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Speaker 1: this is a way better story.

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Speaker 3: Than you're winning. Look.

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Speaker 2: I can't make any promises, but hopefully our topic next

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Speaker 2: week isn't just trying to target Tasmanians.

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Speaker 3: It's just been a big couple of weeks. Okay until

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Speaker 3: next week. Beer good Sport