1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: I understand that the opposition leader Selena Rubo is joining 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: me on the line right now. Good morning to you, Selena. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Let me try that again. Good morning to Selena go 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: on and Katie listener, good to have you on the show. Now. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned just a short time ago a man has 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: alleged well, he allegedly killed his partner in Catherine is 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: expected to be charged with murder after she died last week. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: Now. 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: Police found the sixty one year old woman with serious 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: injuries at a Katherine East home on the twelfth of October. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: She was transferred to Royal Dalen Hospital but succumbed to 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: her injuries on Thursday. Now, her sixty eight year old 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: partner is due to face court next week, which is 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: when the DPP is going to upgrade his charges. It 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: is an absolute tragedy for the family, for the community 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: and hearing the couple had a history of domestic violence. 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: It's upsetting and frustrating that another woman has lost her life, Selena, 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: what needs to happen in your opinion. 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, o, Katie, it's devastating again another woman in the 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: territory to be lost to allegedly domestic violence and it's 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: just it just ricochets through our community, and you know 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 2: I live in Catherine. Many people know that I actually 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: live in Captain East, So it's really devastating to see 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: that news again. But I do appreciate I know that 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 2: you've been a strong advocate in making sure that there 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: is a spotlight on This is an issue that it's 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: not going to go away, and I think that's really 28 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: what we need to do is we need to continue 29 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: to talk about this. We need to continue to not 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 2: shy away from this is a really tough topic. We 31 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: need to make sure that everyone across the NT is 32 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: talking about the needs that we have to face to 33 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: make sure that we overcome domestic, family and sexual violence 34 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: in a northern territory. We've put an open invitation to 35 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: the new Colp government about the bipartisanship that we would 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 2: love to see in this space, and we will continue 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: to have that open invitation with the new Chief Minister 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: so we can really provide and needs based funding for family, 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: domestic and sexual violence prevention. We need to see more programs, 40 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: We need to keep talking about us. We need to 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: make sure it's not hidden behind closed doors, that we 42 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: don't become immune to this really tragic news and the 43 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: horrific state of affairs when it comes to domestic violence 44 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory. We need to keep up the 45 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 2: pressure and that's through the media. Like yourself failure. You're 46 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: a strong advocate and territory everyday territories as well as 47 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: industry and business. 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: Got to tell you, Selena, I'm getting really like, I'm 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: actually starting to get really pissed off about the fact 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: that this actually does not make headlines around the nation. 51 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if we didn't have people like Matt Cunningham 52 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: at Sky News, if you didn't have the likes of 53 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: Lea Mendez writing for The Australian, very often these incredibly 54 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: tragic situations get absolutely no national media coverage. There is 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: no mention of the fact that there has been eight 56 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: women killed to domestic violence allegedly since you know, in 57 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: the last couple of months here in the Northern Territory. 58 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: It's a national shame. 59 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 2: I absolutely agree, Katie. There's not the same level of 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: outrage nationally that you see when a territory and an 61 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: Aboriginal woman in particular in the Territory dies from domestic violence. 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what color someone is, if they've experienced domestic 63 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: violence or unfortunately then succumb to injuries like the lady 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: and Catherine because of domestic violence. This should be a 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: national outrage. This should be something that people are crying out, 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: not just in the territory, to have more support and resourcing, 67 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: to really get to the crux and to nail down 68 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: the causes of domestic violence and supporting Territorians who are 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: experiencing domestic violence. And it just goes on deaf years. 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: It becomes a little, you know topic. It might come 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 2: a you know, a small column in a news print 72 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: or you know, a quick mention on the news and 73 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: they're off. It goes that, it just completely disappears. But 74 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: obviously the impact is the territory. I always say we're 75 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: two degrees of separation, not fixed. So we feel hurt 76 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: in our community, we feel pain in our community a 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: lot closer than what those larger jurisdictions do. But we 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: also need more support in the territory compared to the 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: larger jurisdictions because of the small point. 80 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: So just the Minister for Indigenous Australians is our very 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: own Malandarie McCarthy. Are these conversations. I know you're no 82 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: longer in government. But are these conversations that are being 83 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: had with Malandieri's office And I know that she would 84 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: feel very passionately about this, But I firmly believe everybody 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: does need to sit down, They need to get to 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the table, they need to go What do we need 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: to do differently to try to stop women from being 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: killed at the hands allegedly of their partners. 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: I yeah, Mallanderie is doing a really good job putting 90 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: territory issues. She's got the role now nationally as the 91 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: Indigenous Affairs Minister to advocate all across the country, but 92 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 2: in particular her background and her knowledge and having a 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: large obviously electorate as a senator in the Northern Territory 94 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: provides us at least with a bit of insight into 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: all the territory I should say a bit of insight 96 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 2: into that cabinet room federally. But when we talk about 97 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: what the changes are of resourcing for the Northern Territory, Katie, 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: you know, we've secured here in the Northern Territory a 99 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: remote housing deal that goes beyond politics, which is great. 100 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: We secured an education deal that goes beyond politics, which 101 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: is great. We need to secure a health deal. We 102 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: need to secure a near the funding deal. They're the 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 2: two big pieces that are missing in the Northern territory. 104 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: But I don't care what side of politics you are. 105 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: We're going to make a difference if we get the 106 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: funding that we deserve in the territory to actually make 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: a difference in this space. So when it comes to that, 108 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: we very openly will support the new government in having 109 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: that bipartisan approach and we really want to keep hammering 110 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: like we did for eight years as a labor government. 111 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: We want to support the Theop government to hammer that 112 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: door down in Canberra to get needs based funding for 113 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: domestic found in sexual vices. Yeah. 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: Good, because I think is spot on. This is something 115 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: that it does not matter which side of politics you 116 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: come from. We have to not even be concerned about that. 117 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: We've got to work together to try and sort this out. Minister, 118 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: sorry Opposition leader. I do want to move along. In 119 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: news this morning, we know that Nicole Madison has revealed 120 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: that she has taken a role with Tamboran Resources. Do 121 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: you think it's appropriate? Yeah? 122 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 2: I know that the Coal has announced her news around 123 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: her new job with tam Boran and I believe somebody 124 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: like Nicole will really put the territory front and center 125 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: in that international company, and particularly the work that she's 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 2: done in the last many years of course fighting and 127 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: advocating for the territory. I know that there are some concerns, 128 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Katie of around heard a little bit of the end 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: of the previous segment that you were talking. You know, 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: Nicole did finish up her role as a minister in December, 131 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: so she wasn't part of any cabinet government decision making 132 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 2: for Nelly what do we now November, so just you know, 133 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: just over eleven months. And I know obviously she stepped 134 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: down with the August election, and that's sort of where 135 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: people are going, Oh, what about the timing And unfortunately 136 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: there's no clear outline around saying when someone can take 137 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: up a job that may have, you know, interfaced with 138 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: their previous role in government. I think the rule of 139 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: thumb is usually six months from being a minister, and 140 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: obviously Nicole hasn't been a minister for eleven months. But 141 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: I understand that people may be concerned. But I think 142 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: in terms of the caliber of the person that Nicole 143 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: Madison is, the fighting for the territory particularly jobs, loving 144 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 2: the territory, the lifestyle, the environment. I think somebody liked 145 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: Nicole in a really key role like huge company like 146 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: Tambora and will be good for the Northern Territory. 147 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: Some have questioned whether she was the minister though when 148 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: any of the approvals for that project were granted, I mean, 149 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: do you know if she was, So. 150 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: My timelines around who was minister for what when we 151 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: went through particular proposals aren't very clear. But when we 152 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: talk about environmental protections, and I think a lot of 153 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: the concern is coming from environmental groups and understand why. 154 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: But I think the work that Nicole did in making 155 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: sure the Northern Territory had the most robust legislation and 156 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: policies and regulations around environmental protection for the natural gas 157 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: industry and on shore gas industry, I think is a 158 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: testament to her love of the territory and I think 159 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 2: that she'll carry that on, of course into the new role. 160 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: So that'll be again, I believe, really good for the 161 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 2: Northern Territory because she has that background. She was part 162 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: of the government who had a three year moratorium on 163 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 2: any type of industry around on shore gas. I think 164 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: people should have a bit of comfort, but that her 165 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: integrity will carrying too this new role as well. 166 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: All Right, just before I let you go this morning, 167 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: we know that the government have announced it they are 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: not continuing the twelve year partnership with the Paramatta Eels. 169 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: Look. 170 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: As a non Paramatter Eels fan, I'm not too concerned. 171 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: I hope that they're ready to for Jaya a partnership 172 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: with someone else. But what do you make of USh? 173 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm disappointed and I'm not a Paramotta Eels fan either, Katie, 174 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: But I think what they've brought to the territory for 175 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 2: the last twelve years has been fantastic. When if the 176 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: young territoriums, young people looking at the pathways through those 177 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: development programs that the Eels have offered, and having access 178 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: to elite athletes in the Northern territory that we only 179 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: ever really see on TV. Having that partnership I think 180 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: is fantastic. And yeah, to hear that it's now just 181 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: sort of falling by the wayside and we'll have to 182 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: wait and see what comes next is disappoint and I 183 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: think it's a little bit you know, gutless of the 184 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: Colp government to not actually come out and just talk 185 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: about it. You know, they're like front footing things and 186 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 2: this is one that they just handballed to their department 187 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: to announce. So I just feel like it's not a 188 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: really strong way to start when we're talking about if 189 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: there is a change in partnership, what's going to look like. 190 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: There's some questions territories have, especially Flea fans really sad 191 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 2: for the Paramount ill fans of course, but you know, 192 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: we don't know what's coming next, so I think, yeah, 193 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: the government needs to really step up and tell us 194 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: what the plans are forwards. 195 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: Any team you'd like to see in the Northern Territory? 196 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: Who are you a fan of? Selina? 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 2: I'm a Cowboys fan? Fair enough, they're kind of already 198 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: far North Queensland, so I don't know if they would 199 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: ever come and adopt the Northern Territory because probably too similar. 200 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: But I just think having that elite athlete here in 201 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: the territory is great because we know brings in some 202 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: more money, but it also just allows those pathways. And 203 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: you know, I'm a former TV katie. You can't be 204 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 2: what you can't see. So we've got young territori ins 205 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: are looking at becoming athletes in that field and actually 206 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: seeing home games makes a huge impact on young people. 207 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm an Essendon fand Katie with AFL and 208 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: that's because the first live AFL game over watched was Essendon. Yeah, 209 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: well this is yes because of that. 210 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Look, I think that having sport here 211 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: in the Northern Territory at a high level is a 212 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: wonderful thing. The government have said that they are continuing 213 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: those discussions, so we'll see what we can find out. 214 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: But oppositionally to Selena Ubo. Always great to speak with you. 215 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so very much for your time this morning. 216 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,599 Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, talk to you so thank you.