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Speaker 1: Right now, it's Will and Woody.

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Speaker 2: Shit's about to get real, all right.

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Speaker 3: So Woods hilariously volunteer of the Year. This guy called

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Speaker 3: Ian Grace. I think he's doing Ian Grace right. So

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Speaker 3: he's up on the Goldie and he pens this this

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Speaker 3: online post where basically he says women who are wearing

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Speaker 3: minimal bikinis are making him feel uncomfortable. Right, So he

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Speaker 3: he writes this piece and then he goes on the

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Speaker 3: project and surprise, surprise, I mean blow me down with

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Speaker 3: a feather, Steve Price, I mean communist in wolf's clothing.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: He comes out there and he goes, I tell you what.

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Speaker 3: I tell you what I en I bloody, I agree

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Speaker 1: You feel uncomfortable when you see this?

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Speaker 2: I tend to agree with that.

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Speaker 1: How uncomfortable does it make you feel?

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Speaker 5: I want young women to be so confident enough that

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Speaker 5: they can wear hey other wrong with an ordinary bikini

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Speaker 5: that goes straight across them as opposed to the song

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Speaker 5: bum But you know a young lady on the beach

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Speaker 5: bare bump yep, great view, and then the same lady's

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Speaker 5: serving me coffee shortly make you feel uncomfortable?

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Speaker 2: Why are you looking makes him feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 6: I'm glad Sarah jumped in there. It is a big beach.

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Speaker 6: Australia is a big place, like walk Away. Yeah, he

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Speaker 6: doesn't have to stay if he feels uncomfortable because she

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Speaker 6: has made a decision to wear what she wants to wear.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to stand there in well.

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Speaker 3: I think the uncomfortab the uncomfortability for him was that

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Speaker 3: she then later served him coffee and I'm sorry. He

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Speaker 3: was like, if you're going to flash through my ass,

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Speaker 3: you can't serve me coffee later.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 2: He's not happy about it. He feels uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I find this. I do find this really

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Speaker 3: interesting because I there's a there's a really obviously quite

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Speaker 3: a hard line position for older and potentially more conservative

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Speaker 3: people saying that you shouldn't be able to wear minimal

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Speaker 3: or what do they called the micro bikinis around because

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Speaker 3: it's indecent or whatever it is.

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Speaker 6: Are they old enough for when they were going to

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Speaker 6: the beach when they were like kids, it was like

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Speaker 2: One thing they were nuns.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, because the first like bathers.

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Speaker 2: Were like the sixteenth was the sixteenth century.

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Speaker 3: How old are they because I think the KINI came

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Speaker 3: out that was it, That was a big deal seventies,

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Speaker 3: wasn't it so like it's a big was Yeah. But

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Speaker 3: I think the obviously the other side of this is

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Speaker 3: going to be really beautifully illustrated by Sarah Harris, who

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Speaker 3: same guy straight afterwards.

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Speaker 8: It's a fine line, isn't it ian Because shouldn't we

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Speaker 8: be teaching our girls to be proud of their bodies

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Speaker 8: and not be ashamed of it. You say that these

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Speaker 8: types of bikinis can cheapen young.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's interesting too. Can you imagine young men or

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Speaker 5: men you know doing this as well? If all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden men started doing it, I think we'd be

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Speaker 5: lamp based and castigated all those big words. But we

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Speaker 5: And I think, well, why do you need to? What's

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Speaker 5: the decision to, for example, where an audio bikini or

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Speaker 5: one that's you've got the thong, you know, up the back.

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Speaker 3: Just when he thought he couldn't cock it up anymore,

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Speaker 3: he made a legender debate. So look he has he

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Speaker 3: has you know, really made a bit of a grave

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Speaker 3: for himself here. Hey, Kira is called on thirty one

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Speaker 3: and sixty five here, what do you want to say?

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Speaker 7: Hi, guys, I just wanted to have an opinion. Yeah, essentially,

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Speaker 7: I think Look, I think the guy has a little

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Speaker 7: bit of a point. However, the debate really starts and

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Speaker 7: comes from respects. Right, So I think people should be

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Speaker 7: able to wear what they want and when they feel

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Speaker 7: comfortable in, but also be aware of their surroundings.

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Speaker 6: Okay, sure, So so what are the certain things in

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Absolutely, Well I don't think a beach is an issue.

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Speaker 7: But so for me, I like to wear a nice

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Speaker 7: little bikini, but when I take my kids to the

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Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, well I actually took my daughter to swim

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Speaker 1: You know, like, what was your swim wear?

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Speaker 9: I want the micro.

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Speaker 1: And how was that received?

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Speaker 2: So here's what I want to do. I think this

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Speaker 2: is a really interesting discussion.

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Speaker 3: I think is really really interesting is there was a

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Speaker 3: bit there where Sarah says to this dude, I keep

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Speaker 2: She says to him, she was like, don't look now.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a really interesting bit as well, because

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Speaker 3: I think there's a very big difference between looking, glancing, noticing,

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Speaker 3: what they're wearing. You can't do that, but like you

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Speaker 3: can't help who you're attracted to. So I suppose that's

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Speaker 3: in all of this, let's start by saying thirteen one

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Speaker 3: oh six five should.

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Speaker 2: You be able to wear what you want to the beach?

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Speaker 2: Let's start with that. But I think there's an obvious

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Speaker 3: People that are wearing minimal micro clothing when it comes

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Speaker 3: to how and in what way people are looking.

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Speaker 2: At them totally, because there's got to be a line there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm yeah, it'll be a great perspective up next.

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Speaker 2: Woods.

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Speaker 3: Yes, let's let this. This is the hot top guys.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let the audio from the project do it

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Speaker 3: last night, but basically, a dude from the Goldie hilariously Volunteer.

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Speaker 1: Of the Year twoy won.

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Speaker 3: As I said before, absolute Wolf in sheep's clothing. He

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Speaker 3: he goes and pens this piece about bikinis on the

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Speaker 8: It's a fine line, isn't it, Ian, Because shouldn't we

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Speaker 8: and not be ashamed of it. You say that these

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Speaker 2: Girls, Well, it's interesting too.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine young men or men you know doing

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Speaker 5: doing it. I think we'd be lamp based and castigated

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Speaker 9: But we probably.

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Speaker 5: Never would because it's just not something we'd do. And

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Speaker 5: I think, well, why do you need to what's the

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Speaker 1: It's a bit sheltered, like men do do it?

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Speaker 3: Men men do anything like this?

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Speaker 4: Come on?

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Speaker 1: But like, yes they would as well, you know, not

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think Ian would have it.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like Ian hasn't stepped outside, you know, his gated community,

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Speaker 3: just because just talking about this in general, like if

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Speaker 2: I mean, Ian wouldn't wouldn't survive very long.

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't when his eyes it probably feels so uncomfortable

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Speaker 3: with you know, it's that hyperventilating because there are there's more.

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Speaker 2: Flesh than there is ever on Australian beach.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So look, we don't want to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about this with you guys though, because it's it's

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Speaker 2: Should you be able to wear what you want to

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to ask you Leanne, Leanne, what do

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Speaker 10: Hello, Hi, So I listened to State Price. I actually

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Speaker 10: think the issue is when they're at the beach, there's

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Speaker 10: centers they've got g strings in on and I think

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Speaker 10: that's the issues. For my generation, we're a bit more,

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Speaker 10: a bit more concerned. Why not put a pair of

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Speaker 10: Jens James shorts on something? Just cover up, just be

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Speaker 10: a little bit more for other for the older generation.

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Speaker 3: It's not like you know it is, you know, in

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Speaker 3: like we've all got to live. I mean, I personally

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Speaker 3: I don't care, but I know that there are going

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Speaker 1: You want to the middle ground?

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Speaker 3: Let's just say in general though, like if you know,

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Speaker 6: You, yeah, I'd move away, right, Yeah, respects thing. Let's

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Speaker 6: go to Naomi here, Naomi, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 10: Look way, what you want? I don't care how old

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Speaker 8: At the end of the day, you've got old blokes

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Speaker 3: Billy around, get around it, get around Naomi.

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Speaker 10: To cover up the little butts. Then let's tell the

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Speaker 1: Naomi, it's a great goal. It's a great goal. Sam, Sam,

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Speaker 9: Mate? Me personally, I don't have a problem at the beach.

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Speaker 9: They can play with what's happening in the world right now,

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Speaker 9: with the generic what's happening? This is the least of

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Speaker 9: If you're going to wear something and display something, you

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Speaker 9: if you if you've got a nice ass, you want

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Speaker 9: to show it, no problem, And obviously that's you want

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Speaker 9: to display it. If I've got a six pack, I'm

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Speaker 9: to come to you and say, oh, what are you

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Speaker 9: looking at? And what are you doing this? What am

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Speaker 9: I looking at? It's the thing right in front of me,

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Speaker 9: you know what I mean? And and and just go on.

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Speaker 9: Just one thing I want to mention. Look on that

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Speaker 9: yesterday's broadcast with Steve Price, and I forgot what the

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Speaker 9: Ladies presenter was when she said, don't you want girls

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Speaker 9: to be proud of yourself? I said, I would have

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Speaker 9: just said to her. How come you're not presenting in

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Speaker 9: a dy stream and stuff like that. Surely you're proud

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Speaker 9: of your body and see what her reaction would have been, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: can Yeah, I don't. I'm not sure what that.

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Speaker 1: Would have That's a very different environment. Sound.

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Speaker 6: Let's just but she's she's live on television on a

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Speaker 6: panel like I think everyone agrees that that's probably not

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Speaker 6: the place to wear a micro bikini.

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Speaker 1: I think we are talking beach and probably.

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Speaker 2: Close to bikini right now.

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Speaker 1: A wild retorts.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to Sam really quickly because I think

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Speaker 3: this is this for me is the sticking point Sam, Sam,

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Speaker 3: you do, do you? Because I think this is the

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Speaker 3: this with our team earlier as well. There's gotta be

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Speaker 3: there is obviously a difference between noticing someone that you

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Speaker 3: are attracted to. I'm going to hazard a guess here

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Speaker 3: So there's obviously a difference between between noticing when someone's

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Speaker 3: something attractive and just as I said before about you know,

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Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable. Like, if you know that, then surely that's

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Speaker 3: not something that you want to do. You don't want

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Speaker 9: Of course, yeah, of course nobody wants to make anyone

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Speaker 9: feel uncomfortable. But let me let me say it, let

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Speaker 9: me give you, let me give it to in an

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Speaker 9: analogy for e time. Okay, okay, all right. If I

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Speaker 9: if I'm driving in a lambit actually staring at my

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Speaker 3: You're comparing a car with someone's body and also saying

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Speaker 3: if you're saying you don't feel unomfortable, it's a different

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Speaker 3: situation if the woman is saying it is making me

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Speaker 9: So yeah, well I'll tell you I can answer it

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Speaker 9: in one sentence. That's why I go to the beach

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Speaker 9: with some some glasses on there are reflective.

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Speaker 3: Oh Sam, Now, what we've tried to do there is

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately he's just prove that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I'm glad we look, I'm glad we gave

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Speaker 3: me to talk. Arianna's called Hi, Ariana.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 7: Guys, I think that.

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Speaker 4: They should be able to wear whatever they want. But

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Speaker 4: from the perspective of a woman, I've seen more guys

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Speaker 4: than budgy smugglers with their package out and people dressed

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Speaker 4: the bomb Mountain and the package out.

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Speaker 7: If you want to be fully covered or fully uncovered, that's.

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Speaker 4: Your own choice. But I mean from the gender perspective

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Speaker 4: that this guy projected on the projects, I feel like

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Speaker 4: he said that men don't do it. Mate. Have you

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Speaker 4: been on the bond Die because I'm pretty sure nine

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Speaker 4: out of ten men are wearing Buggy smugglers down there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm one of them, bloody Lad and Brad absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was in swimming class this morning in

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Speaker 3: a boar at man canny, so what can I say?

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