1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning. Sam. 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: We spoke earlier about Australia talks. Fifty five thousand Australians 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: were surveyed on a whole range of things. But I've 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: seen some results of another survey that weren't covered in that, 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: and I'm surprised they didn't look into it. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: What else? 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 2: Black magic? 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: That all black magic? 9 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: Half of Australians would put a curse on someone if 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: they had a chance. Politicians would most likely get hit 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: with a hex, followed by strangers who annoy them and 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: bad drivers. Nineteen percent would put a hex or a curse. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: Are you into the black magic? 14 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 3: No? 15 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 2: I was always I don't believe in it, but I'm 16 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: too scared to attempt having a guard. 17 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: Do you have a crack at a weeda board? 18 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: Oh? 19 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: Maybe when I was about thirteen, and then even then 20 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: and even now I don't want to disturb the spirits 21 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: I don't believe in. 22 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: How does the weedia board work? Again? 23 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: Well, don't you put or put your fingers on it 24 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: in the middle and ask a question? Oh, and then 25 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: it's built a uncle Jeffer's a murderer. Now where's the apostrophe? 26 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: How is that? 27 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 2: Actually, that's how I had known if my mother was 28 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: speaking to me through the wedge aboard, because there'd be 29 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: an apostrophe issue. 30 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: She'd say, Amanda, Amanda, Amanda, that's a semicolon, yes, and 31 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: pull you sweated down. 32 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 2: That's interesting though, because I girls do this one a lot. 33 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: I think I know a couple of girls who have 34 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: done this, where you write someone's name down are you 35 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: trying to forget like an ex boyfriend or whatever, and 36 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: put it in the freezer? 37 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: And what does that do? 38 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: It's supposed to stop their power over you. 39 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember once. 40 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 5: It was when you're a kid, you walked into a 41 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 5: bathroom and looked into a mirror and said Mary, Mary, Mary, 42 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 5: and then a disembodied head of bloody Mary, Queen Mary 43 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 5: would appear in the mirror. 44 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't work. 45 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: Who started that one? 46 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is one of those school kid things. 47 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: Kids do that really? 48 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: So do you do it at school? 49 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 50 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Did you have a haunted bathroom? 51 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 3: Wait? 52 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: I think you've got to have an of trouser ghosts 53 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: in there. I'm sure you've got to start with a haunted. 54 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Harned bathroom. You just gotta be in your nice corporate bathroom. 55 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of blood Mary's been consumed in there. Yes, 56 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: so a lot of people. It says it when I 57 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: say a lot for you know, that's a lot. Yeah, 58 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: divination that they've had their fortune red, some sort of 59 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: occult activity, casting spells. It says that most people would 60 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: use it to make more money. How about this? Uh, 61 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: Millennials and men are more likely to use magic if 62 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: they could make their partner more attractive. Really really, and 63 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: a third of women said they'd use magic if they 64 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: could eat whatever they wanted and not gain weight. 65 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 5: I did a couple of radio shows with Fiona Horn, 66 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 5: remember her White Witch, a White Witch? 67 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: And I said, well, you know, can you do some spells? 68 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: So our show was very successful? He said no, I 69 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: can't do that. 70 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: Why not? 71 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: That's what I said. You can't use it for yourself. 72 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: And I said, well that's pointless. 73 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: What's the point of being a witch because you use 74 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 2: it for someone else's show. 75 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: It's like at the TV show Bewitched. 76 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 5: If I was married to Samantha, Yeah, dad would what 77 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: was his name, bumps darn Darren? 78 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: I would be you know, I'd be using those powers. 79 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: Course she would, and why should she have to use 80 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: a vacuum cleaner before he comes home from work. When 81 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 2: she could click her fingers and she's living. 82 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: In a palace, she just wiggle her nose. 83 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: I mean, that's it. I would have used her powers 84 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: to make that partner more attractive. She just wasn't good enough. 85 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Which had a thing for Dora. She was kind of 86 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: cranky mother in law. You like the eyeliner, Maybe the 87 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: tribal drum would beat for this. 88 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: Tales of black magic? Have you cast a spell? Have 89 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: you put someone's name in the freezer? Have you read 90 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: the entrails of a dead chicken? 91 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Are you doing it now? 92 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: Did it work? Tell us more? 93 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: Carry's in the Blue Mountains? 94 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 4: Hello? 95 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: Carry? 96 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: Is it smoky in the Blue Mountains? 97 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 6: It's not too bad right now? It was really bad yesterday. 98 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 6: And yeah, down on the planes, that's bad. 99 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, very well. 100 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: So tell us about your black magic way. 101 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 6: I used to see quite a few clairvoyants and things, 102 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 6: And first of all, when I used to get answers 103 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 6: I didn't like, I used to deliberately go the opposite 104 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 6: way so that I would make them wrong, because I've 105 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 6: always been I was a little bit like that. Yeah, 106 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 6: I don't listen to people I'm not good at it. 107 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 6: So you know, if they didn't give me the right answer, 108 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 6: I deliberately go, well, no, that's crap, And so I 109 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 6: did the opposite thing. But one time I was, yeah, 110 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 6: trying to get someone and their influence out of my life, 111 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 6: and I was told to burn write down everything about 112 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 6: them and put it on a piece of paper and 113 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 6: burn it and set it free. And I actually drove 114 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 6: down from the mountains down to the beach with my 115 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 6: piece of paper and set it on fire and scattered 116 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 6: it over the ocean. 117 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: I did work. 118 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: What happened. 119 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 6: Happening. 120 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: So you did pretty much carry was. 121 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 6: Litter well with any ashes. 122 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only ashes. 123 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 2: Carry maybe in the next few days. Don't do that anybody. 124 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, total five ban and all the ashes. Tell that 125 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: to the Australian test site. 126 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: Thanks carry Sandra's in Maryville. Hello Sandra, morning, Amanda and 127 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 2: Josie here. 128 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Are you going that old black magic? Sandra tell us 129 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: about it? 130 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: Well, I actually think it was white magic. So in 131 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: my twenties I dabbled in a little bit of paganism, 132 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: bit of wicker and I was unemployed for about six 133 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 4: months between jobs, and I couldn't get anything with going 134 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: to heaps of interviews, trying as hard as I could 135 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:53,119 Speaker 4: to get something else, and nothing was working. So I decided. 136 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: To have a little castle spell yep. 137 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: And I it was to bring more sperit into my life. 138 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: Within a week. 139 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: So I picked a third day. 140 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: Had the right flowers on my altar. Part of it 141 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: was to do a little incantation and burn us one 142 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 4: dollar bill and then the following Thursday I had to 143 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 4: go interview and I got both jobs. 144 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 2: Wow wow, I know, But I wonder if I mean 145 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: the other side of that is maybe you were putting 146 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 2: out a positive vibe. I deserve this and that it is. 147 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it's about. Peter's in North. 148 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: Rode, Hallo, Peter, good morning, how you very well, Thank 149 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: you tell us about your tales of magic. 150 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: A bit of a weary one Pluigi Bulls. Back in 151 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: the seventies, we were having Ouigi pour with my mate, 152 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: my sister and her best friend and we had a 153 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: glass brown glass table, the can underneath all the letter 154 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: numbers around the side, and it said that when she 155 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: was twenty one she was going to die with my 156 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: sister's girlfriend. Anyway, I clear quite clearly remember because my sister. 157 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: She couldn't stop crying over it. I was her best friend, 158 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: and that girl when she was twenty one when missing 159 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: has never been. 160 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Seen the ships whoa. Wow. 161 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: Every time I asked how she was going to die, 162 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 3: that the glass was just going to know And I 163 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: know one hundred percent I wasn't pushing on the glass. 164 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: So in terms of a weija board, there'd be letters 165 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: around and it would spell out the words. What did 166 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: it spell out that led you to believe this would 167 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: happen to her? 168 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: I would have said she was going to die when 169 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: she was twenty one. Look back fell a long time ago, 170 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: And every time I talk about this story, I'd just 171 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: break out in goosebumps and I'll never forget it. 172 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 5: Wow, it's kind of specific, though, you're going to die 173 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 5: at twenty one. 174 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: Yes, she was actually brought up in the media that 175 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: she was an e Mala victim. 176 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: Whoa, And she's never been seen. 177 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: Never been seen since twenty one. That's like thirty forty 178 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: years ago. 179 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: What a tragic story, Peter. And it'll freak you out 180 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: so much. You never went near that board again, I'm imagining, 181 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: uh not back. 182 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: In the day. Same I didn't I just sort of 183 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 3: blow it over as nothing. But every time I think 184 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: about it now, it's just a different, different feeling, totally 185 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: different feeling. 186 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: Stick to hungry, hungry hippies. The outcomes is bad jeez. 187 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: Plus story goosebumps too. 188 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 4: Hearing that joins the and Amanda in the morning at 189 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 4: one point seven, te