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Speaker 3: in the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she didn't really do anything that embarrassing. I
Speaker 2: don't think there's come back from.
Speaker 1: No, but people ripped her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can come back from anything.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think she's surpassed anyway. I don't know. It depends
Speaker 2: because it was a sensation for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to know what things were like.
Speaker 1: People thought that was embarrassing height of embarrassing. Yeah, it
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Speaker 3: Froomes Cater never miss a beat. FLEXI I know you
Speaker 3: love imaginary concepts.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know you like the make believe you really do.
Speaker 3: And someone a listener has sent us in a question
Speaker 3: regarding how we would choose to create an escape room.
Speaker 3: Brookie has a audio grab Hey.
Speaker 2: Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of the show. I was just wondering, professional,
Speaker 3: if you had to build an escape room, what will
Speaker 3: be the theme?
Speaker 1: Now, I'm just gonna say, I don't believe this is
Speaker 1: a listener.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's somewhere in production because that is.
Speaker 1: What they admitted to me that they sent it on
Speaker 1: the toilet. Okay, can we just play a bit of
Speaker 1: it again?
Speaker 2: Hey, well, Flex and Rooms. I'm a big fan of
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: I was just wondering if you had to build an
Speaker 3: escape room, what would be the theme. I just love
Speaker 3: when I hear our listeners voice and think you are
Speaker 3: so eloquent and the dictation and the innation.
Speaker 1: Of the voice is popping.
Speaker 2: Intonation.
Speaker 3: Intonation, I never get that word. So, if you had
Speaker 3: to build an escape room, what would be the theme?
Speaker 3: And how would you escape a FLEXI? I know you've
Speaker 3: got some experience with escape room.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is coming up because I
Speaker 2: just went to an escape room. I've gone to a
Speaker 2: couple in my lifetime. I have. I am very fond
Speaker 2: of teamwork, but also maybe over emphasizing my contribution by
Speaker 2: taking it really seriously getting one or two clues, gloating
Speaker 2: the whole time, and then calling myself the MVP. I
Speaker 2: did go to an escape room recently that I felt
Speaker 2: was incredible, Like the set design, the production felt like
Speaker 2: I was in a movie or like a play, a
Speaker 2: theater show. Was really incredible. I will say that I
Speaker 2: felt misled because I was told it was like a
Speaker 2: toy shop themed escape room, and in actuality it was
Speaker 2: so haunted, so scary. I had to step out during
Speaker 2: the third room because it was like the most sinister
Speaker 2: thing I've ever experienced, like cursed.
Speaker 1: Do you have a line when it comes to stuff?
Speaker 2: I really do? And I the line was blurry. Now
Speaker 2: it's a hard line in the sand, So had to
Speaker 2: step out. Was very spooky, And for that reason, I
Speaker 2: would say I'd want my escape room to be something
Speaker 2: like End of the World Apocalypse themed, just because I
Speaker 2: feel like what happens with a lot of escape rooms
Speaker 2: currently is that they pull on like things that already
Speaker 2: exist and retell those stories in the context of the room.
Speaker 2: So like, do a bank heist, and then you've watched
Speaker 2: a bunch of bank heist movies, so you kind of
Speaker 2: get the gist but then like escaping a made up
Speaker 2: place that doesn't exist, and you can't pull from your
Speaker 2: pre existing understanding of the apocalypse because you've never been
Speaker 2: to them. That would be sick And how do you escape?
Speaker 1: I don't know, become a zombie.
Speaker 2: But I do feel like I really want a room
Speaker 2: that's contingent on actual teamwork, like that requires someone like
Speaker 2: to press the button while something else is happening. Because
Speaker 2: you don't want the bludges in the room. People start
Speaker 2: to like hang out on the sideline. I'm like, this
Speaker 2: is serious. Get your head in the game, Babe's.
Speaker 3: The only time I've done an escape room was in
Speaker 3: Korea after a couple of drinks with a group of people.
Speaker 1: One other person could speak English.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you were the weakest link.
Speaker 1: I was a weak link, and I was just toidling
Speaker 1: in the in the corner of the room, looking busy,
Speaker 1: looking busy.
Speaker 3: Hated it, actually hated it if I had to construct
Speaker 3: my own escape room, which.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't because I don't like them. What don't you
Speaker 1: like about it? Stuck?
Speaker 3: I don't like I'm really I'm not gonna say I'm
Speaker 3: bad at problem solving, but I don't apply myself. You
Speaker 3: can shocking say that I don't get down with problem solving,
Speaker 3: but if I had to pick one, I think I
Speaker 3: figured out something that would hit your taste as well.
Speaker 3: The theme is baby in a cot, So you're like
Speaker 3: in a play pen like you were a baby, and
Speaker 3: you have to go in like all with dummies in
Speaker 3: your mouth. And the first one is like how to
Speaker 3: get the dummy out?
Speaker 2: But you're like, you can't use your hands or your legs,
Speaker 2: and you can't. You could spit it out, but then
Speaker 2: how do you spit it out and get into the lock?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And then the second one is like you're in a
Speaker 3: room full of cribs and the cribs are all set
Speaker 3: up against the wall, so once you get into the crib,
Speaker 3: you can go through a hole to the next room
Speaker 3: like a maze, but in order to get up there
Speaker 3: you have to.
Speaker 1: Step on everyone. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so baby escaping, you're a genius.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That was something off the dome too. That's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: So just have to think.
Speaker 3: If you've got a better scenario, send us in a
Speaker 3: voice note flex and anyone will.
Speaker 2: Have a better one than your one, but definitely attempt
Speaker 2: and send it through.
Speaker 1: See sometimes I'm quite smart, You're often quite smart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's crazy Ketas flex.
Speaker 2: And fromes Flex and Firms.
Speaker 3: FLEXI have a very important update that will change your
Speaker 3: lives of quite a few viewers and listeners at the.
Speaker 2: Show People with Sisters, People with sisters with sisters? Is
Speaker 2: that a small demographic? How many sisters with sisters do
Speaker 2: we have in the room right now? One? Two, three? Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm the outlier.
Speaker 3: How many sisters with one other sister?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Three for three?
Speaker 3: I'd love to know what that's about, oldest or youngestest?
Speaker 3: Becky's the older sister behind the camera there.
Speaker 2: That's why Becky can deal with us.
Speaker 1: It is, isn't it?
Speaker 3: She can deal with a little ramblings true annoying.
Speaker 2: Makes so much sense.
Speaker 3: Pink sister versus purple sister. This is from a listener, Hey, Hotty,
Speaker 3: can we just hotty no plural? It's just for me, Hey, Hotty,
Speaker 3: I just said over at my parents' house last night
Speaker 3: and found tangible evidence that I was dubbed the purple
Speaker 3: sister by my parents when I was a child.
Speaker 2: When listening to clarify, is that a bad thing a
Speaker 2: good thing?
Speaker 1: Their pink sister is number one.
Speaker 2: Primary sister. I'm better sister.
Speaker 3: Primary sister better, often older, more dominant. Purple sister is
Speaker 3: the runner up.
Speaker 2: And you are you produce a brookie? Are you pink
Speaker 2: or purple sister?
Speaker 1: I'm a pink and shows it's because she's the oldest.
Speaker 2: I believe I'm she's not. She's the youngest. I'm youngest
Speaker 2: domin I'm not trying to break down your theory, but
Speaker 2: I'm I'm just trying to find.
Speaker 3: I'll says, this is a very contentious point. I believe
Speaker 3: in my childhood I was the pink sister. My sister's
Speaker 3: she is. We have been gathering evidence, she says, I
Speaker 3: have a core memory that supports this too. One Christmas,
Speaker 3: and I was six or seven, my sister and I
Speaker 3: got electric toothbrushes as presents. The one she got was
Speaker 3: pink and had a pretty princess on it.
Speaker 1: It was so cute.
Speaker 3: But the one I got it was green and blue
Speaker 3: and had a dinosaur on it. So purple sister adjacent
Speaker 3: is that?
Speaker 2: Because when you're buying, let's say, a toothbrush, how many
Speaker 2: pink options are you going to get? It has been
Speaker 2: a color another color, right, I guess you can't get
Speaker 2: the same toothbrush.
Speaker 3: Please continue, it gets crazier. Clearly there were only options
Speaker 3: for a boy and a girl toothbrush at targets, so
Speaker 3: I got stuck with the boy one. At the time,
Speaker 3: I was jealous, but still appreciated my diner guy. But
Speaker 3: this is when it gets interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh hasn't got an interesting yet?
Speaker 1: I was loving it, hooting and hollering in the back.
Speaker 3: Maybe my parents had a gnarly subconscious parental instinct because
Speaker 3: last year I came out as trans non binary and
Speaker 3: the dino truthbrush and nomination as purple sister started to
Speaker 3: make a whole lot more sense. They just knew I
Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to be a pretty pink princess.
Speaker 2: So what this person is saying is that there's a
Speaker 2: correlation with sisters who were dubbed purple or pink. It
Speaker 2: has something to do with your sexual no, with your
Speaker 2: gender expression. Yes, but are we thinking is it correlational causation?
Speaker 2: Is there a correlation?
Speaker 3: Perhaps well, other parents subconsciously weighing up your.
Speaker 2: All the parents with pink toothbrush, pushing onto.
Speaker 3: The traditional salmin and stereotypes.
Speaker 1: You can't get, you can't get past the FLEXI you can.
Speaker 2: You really can, because this is niche sister content. I
Speaker 2: don't have anything like this, but I'm thinking, I mean,
Speaker 2: I would love to see some more data, okay support
Speaker 2: these claims. First, I want to get a more comprehensive
Speaker 2: understanding of what other characteristics of a pink sister versus
Speaker 2: a purple sister. Yes, that would be great, okay, because
Speaker 2: for now I'm thinking that the pink sister is really
Speaker 2: defined and purple is just not the pink sister.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Make Oh that's the point.
Speaker 3: They're the runner up, they're the consolation prize, they're the
Speaker 3: Oh well, it's kind of similarly you should.
Speaker 2: Make the cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So then we just need to define, like what is
Speaker 2: the pink sister. Is it always the favorite, is the fussiest,
Speaker 2: Is it the more like stereotypically feminine?
Speaker 1: It's the most dominant?
Speaker 2: I think we need to crowdsource.
Speaker 3: Can I just I think this is an anthropological reason
Speaker 3: why spar with me.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're gonna go into it.
Speaker 1: Yes, very quickly. So in the time when we grew
Speaker 1: up late.
Speaker 3: Two thousands, because we were twenty four no, just kidding,
Speaker 3: growing up in the nineties and the early two thousands,
Speaker 3: pink was vogue. Pink was like legally blonde. It was
Speaker 3: all these things were super stereotypically feminine, where that was
Speaker 3: the only real marker of success as a woman, as
Speaker 3: a child, as a child, that you're at your barbies
Speaker 3: like and of women in that age the way, even
Speaker 3: like young women, you had to be stereotypically very very
Speaker 3: feminine to fit this ideal.
Speaker 2: And therefore, because even like the the R and B
Speaker 2: seeing are pink, her whole thing is I'm at.
Speaker 4: Some may, I'm at somebody, she still still shuckle flex and.
Speaker 2: Am I the asshole for acting poor to make my
Speaker 2: housemates feel better about their financial situation? That is the
Speaker 2: question we're answering today on flex and frooms. Listen to this.
Speaker 2: So after thirty years of steady progress, I'm making pretty
Speaker 2: good money, Like I recently readjusted my four oh one K.
Speaker 2: It's like superannuation, so I won't overpay into it this year.
Speaker 2: And the change in my take home pay is more
Speaker 2: than my roommates pays in rent in my sort of
Speaker 2: low end and ugly house in a poor neighborhood. My gosh,
Speaker 2: both of my roommates and several friends are constantly struggling.
Speaker 1: Babe.
Speaker 2: I try to help by drastically undercharging on rent. They
Speaker 2: probably pay half what the going rate is for rooms
Speaker 2: in my city, and being the one who buys takeout
Speaker 2: on movie nights, but they still struggle. I pretty much
Speaker 2: downplay my income and will downplay my available money by
Speaker 2: pointing out the college expenses I pay for my child
Speaker 2: and the cost of filling my old junker car with gas.
Speaker 2: I was recently hanging with a friend and he asked
Speaker 2: what I made. I was honest and told him. He
Speaker 2: said he called me a jerk and said I was
Speaker 2: condescending to my friends by acting poor. He was actively
Speaker 2: angry that I'm faking being poor. Meanwhile, I just try
Speaker 2: to save up so I have a warm place to
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom when I'm old. I'm going to
Speaker 2: charge rent to live in my house. It seems wrong
Speaker 2: to have people lived there and for me to not
Speaker 2: make anything of them. So am I the asshole?
Speaker 1: Damn?
Speaker 2: I would say that he is a very creative writer.
Speaker 2: I didn't clock he wrote struggle and Struggling probably about
Speaker 2: six or seven times. In both of those paragraphs.
Speaker 3: Never discuss money with anyone never unless you're in a
Speaker 3: comparable industry. Like when you and I discuss certain things
Speaker 3: specific jobs, I wouldn't know how much you take home
Speaker 3: in a year point blank. I don't know your final figure.
Speaker 3: I know for this job you got x amount of money.
Speaker 3: So then when the same brand comes to me, I know.
Speaker 1: The ballpark figure. Okay.
Speaker 3: Any kind of discussion of money when you know you
Speaker 3: earn way more is a dick flex It's not gonna
Speaker 3: make you feel better about how much you make when
Speaker 3: you flex it on somebody else, because all you can
Speaker 3: do is lose, because they then think you're a tight
Speaker 3: ass for not paying for everything. Like we've all got
Speaker 3: that really rich friend, or like maybe you knew someone
Speaker 3: growing up whose parents are really rich, you're expecting them
Speaker 3: to foot bills for things actuality, like they.
Speaker 1: Don't need to.
Speaker 3: Just because you own more money doesn't mean you should
Speaker 3: cover for your friends.
Speaker 2: I find myself doing not the opposite. But I've had
Speaker 2: a few friends and acquaintances assume that I make a
Speaker 2: lot of money and have no expenses, So I've had
Speaker 2: to be really honest about what my expenses are. So
Speaker 2: they'll be like, oh, you should come here. I'm like no,
Speaker 2: I just paid ten K with lawyers. I can't do that, ybe.
Speaker 2: So we're not joking anymore. It's like you, like you
Speaker 2: assume there's a lot of money coming in, there's just
Speaker 2: as much money going out, you know. Or if someone's like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean you can't come to so and
Speaker 2: so and so, like it's only gonna cost this much,
Speaker 2: and like I just paid a tax bill it was
Speaker 2: this much, so I can't do it. And then it's
Speaker 2: not about flexing how much money you have, but it's
Speaker 2: about being more honest about the context of why you
Speaker 2: can and can't spend something. I think that people are
Speaker 2: very naive when it comes to discussions of money because
Speaker 2: they assume that it's not going to change how they
Speaker 2: perceive a city situation, Like they're not looking for that
Speaker 2: information to decide how they feel about a situation. In fact,
Speaker 2: you know, like so if people are like, oh, I
Speaker 2: want to know how much you make, it's like it's
Speaker 2: going to impact whatever thought you currently have brewing, and
Speaker 2: it's not in my benefit to don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: What I will say, though, is in this situation, I
Speaker 2: think it's important because the poster owns the house, so
Speaker 2: there's already like precarious money situation happening here, and you
Speaker 2: know that you make way more than your housemaids, and
Speaker 2: you also know that you want to be in a
Speaker 2: position to maintain some kind of friendship. I don't think
Speaker 2: this person has to quote unquote act poor on behalf
Speaker 2: of them. That's a weird take and a weird flex.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's considerate to presume that they
Speaker 2: won't be able to do and go certain places with
Speaker 2: you because they don't make your income. I think this
Speaker 2: person's overcompensating and this whole like, well, I only charge
Speaker 2: them half of market way, you don't have to. You're
Speaker 2: gonna throw it back on them then, like, don't you
Speaker 2: know let them know. Yeah, they didn't know there were
Speaker 2: charity cases when they signed the lease.
Speaker 1: Don't whip it out midway through.
Speaker 2: Have some respect, have some zequem. You've been listening to
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