WEBVTT - Blak Pride: Celebrating Mardi Gras 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.160 Unapologetically Black would like to acknowledge the traditional owners of 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:07.640 the lands where this podcast is being hurt or watched 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:11.360 across this great island continent now known as Australia and 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.560 across the world. We would also like to pay our 0:00:13.600 --> 0:00:16.400 respects to elders past and present and acknowledged that this 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:19.160 always was and always will be Aberaginal Lands. 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:24.239 Welcome to Unapologetically Black with Mara and Will. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:31.480 Welcome to another episode of Unapologetically Black. I'm your host, 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:36.120 Ginny and I'm joined by my beautiful co hosts. Sometimes hilarious, 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.840 just kidding, always hilarious. 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.080 Bill was trying to keep a straight face like Sara. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.360 He was she talking about me or Maarah, I. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:50.240 Know a funny one, Well, who is the non funny one? 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.240 I reckon, I'm not funny at all. 0:00:52.560 --> 0:00:55.840 I'm not even you're a little bit funny funny because 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:57.360 you're like proper naive in something. 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.680 Yeah, I'm way too serious, but I thought I was 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:01.720 kind of you know, let my hair down. 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.520 Today? Which way? Tell me how you let your hair down? 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:09.199 Come on you hair down? 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.839 Well, just I do like to have a couple of champagnes. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.080 That's it, on my own, on my deck and I 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.560 feel like I let my hair down. 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:23.760 Wow, PG, isn't it super? 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:25.560 All right? 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.920 So we're going to get into it. It is Marti 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:30.640 Gras is coming up, so we thought season it is 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:34.080 and I've never been. Well that's a lie. I said 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:36.399 that before. I think I have been. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:38.360 How do you think you've been? 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:39.920 It's like the you we're not going to? 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:41.400 Okay? 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.679 Is there like a leader? Is there like a bunch 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:44.560 of events? 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:46.560 It's like a week long celebration. 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:50.040 I remember going to this event. I'm pretty sure it 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:52.960 was during Mardi Gras and was like in a warehouse 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.400 and there was like a rave and prob and it 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.680 was like seven Deadly Sins themed and people dressed up. 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.280 There's heaps of events, so like there's lots of creatives 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.760 which host events that are both official, MIGHTI rab parties 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.800 and non official as heaps happens? 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.160 Okay, So I think I've been to like a party our. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.360 Partial parade though, No, I've never been to the You 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.000 need to come in March one year? Would you March? 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:17.040 Sure? 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.440 It's fucking life changing? 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.079 Am I allowed to not put in the queer community 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:22.400 March last year? 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:27.200 Were you there? Well? We had to, we had we 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.880 had an outfit given to us. 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:31.000 What was the outfit? 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:34.200 So I was in a float where it was a 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.640 memorial float and. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.399 It actually won best float of the parade. I did, yeah, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.720 did wow? Yeah, it won the best flow. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:44.440 Well there you go. I was on the one that 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:45.799 won the best float. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.440 People's so put it on the resume. 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:51.079 So we had participants. 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.800 Literally I had two you know, half naked black men 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:59.120 beside me, literally both the all four of them were 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.880 in g street, that's it, and they had white, beautiful 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:08.240 body paint on their bodies and they were marching beside 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:10.480 me and all of us. You could either wear leather, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:14.920 black leather, or we had these rainbow things. So it 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.160 was black leather and rainbow colors. So you got given 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.919 an outfit or an option of either. Or I had 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.840 a black corsette and I had black fishnet stockings, and 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:30.359 I got these black leather kind of synthetic vinyly boots 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:34.440 that I've never worn again from Windsor Smith and a 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.400 little black miniskirt, but black mini skirt, and I had 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.920 a nice big, you know, hair weave thing on with 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:46.200 glitter and I actually had the time of my life. 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.720 So yes, I want to see a picture. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:51.160 You need to show me a picture. Actually, let's post. 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:51.920 It on Instagram. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:56.120 Let's post that I just posted on a link LinkedIn 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:58.560 post much last year because last. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.840 Year was it opened it well, I it wasn't. 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:03.640 Just what Marti gras. It was World Pride. It's the 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.480 first time that World Prides coming to the Southern Hemisphere 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.440 and it was nothing short or phenomenal. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:09.120 Wow. 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.280 I was pretty much fucked up for a whole week 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.600 and I had that much work on I'll tell you 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.200 quick yarn. I went and seen Kelly Rowland on the 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:19.839 Sunday and I had a huge client on the Monday. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.680 And sorry, client, if you're listening and you hear this, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.640 I rock up. I got home at like four am. 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.919 I have to be at the office by eight am 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.080 to go out to Lapa to meet more about at Lapa. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.120 I rock up thinking I've shouted, I've got myscar still 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.200 on my face with this client meeting race, Like, what 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.000 the fuck have you done? I'm like, I told you, 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.760 it's gave Christmas bub I'm partying for the next week 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:43.720 because it's World Pride. And I got through the day, 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:45.400 but I look like a half suck mango. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.080 I was miscar. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.080 I had much way out of like you know how 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.480 much I loved like Beyonce and seeing Kelly Roland live 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.480 at World Pride was iconic. So my big hole, thinking 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.840 I'm twenty one again goes to better at four am. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.320 No good had to be I meaned it up. Well, 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.840 I went to every single fucking session that I had 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:07.760 to go other week and I committed. But it was 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.400 the hardest recovery I've ever had in my life. 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:14.360 Well, tell us about your outfit because the hogm you're outfit. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.480 For last year? Yes, so it was. It was all 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:20.000 black and we spent like I don't know, hey, if 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.960 you know how the parade works, but you spend like 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.960 six eight twelve weeks planning pre Mardi Grass. So every 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:30.960 October mob will start coming together to plan what the 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:32.960 float looks like. And there's a theme because the first 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.760 Nations flop opens it. So where after the dikes on 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.080 bikes who they're like the what do you call it? Like? 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:42.040 The fucking hype people. They hype it all up. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.920 And then the dykes on bikes, I didn't even know 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:46.760 that that's what they were called. Well, what do you reckon? 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.880 They're called? I didn't know on pushies or something, dikes 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.000 on bikes, that's what they callt dikes on bikes, so 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:54.520 that they come around, they do the rev up and 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.360 then once they go the first nation opens it. So 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:00.800 we knew last year because it was World Pride. It 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.880 was like three weeks worth of festival, the first time 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:04.839 in Southern Hemisphes. We thought, we've got to fucking go 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.160 big with this, so we built a thirty foot long 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:12.600 inflatable rainbow serpent for it. Have you not seen I'll 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:16.080 show you. It's huge. It was, and I'm like, I'm 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.040 being biased, but we didn't even get a recognition of 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:20.920 the best flow. And the float was this thirty foot 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.400 long snake that was inflatable that had lights lit up 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.600 that we were dancing next to. And then me that 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.040 you've just created. We created, and so we are the 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.279 fundraised and then it gets funded by Acon, so they're 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:34.200 like a partner in it. 0:06:34.279 --> 0:06:36.479 Okay, but every other float's not funded. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:37.920 Well no, some of them are like. 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:42.120 American Express, Google. Yeah, there are. 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:47.159 Some community floats are like they self fund themselves, like 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.960 it's a community events, but it's turned into a bit 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.279 of a which is another yarm with itself but back 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:56.560 to this parade that the the was so we let 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:58.320 it and we did the thirty foot flow and then 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.640 we had a ti one her name, I can't remember 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:04.720 her name now, sister girl. And then I led the 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:07.360 first Nation the Aboriginal site, and we had these big 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.160 fucking flag cape things around our waist, this big bead. 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.600 Like it was this big but a fly, but there's 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:14.720 a massive span. 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.440 It was like like a ban that was sick. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:22.000 It was a flag. I literally I was so jealous. 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.440 I told you to come much of us, and but look, 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:25.400 and I thought I was. 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.800 I thought I was in Will's flow because he's like, 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:29.440 you come. I'm like, yeah, I've got some'm coming. Did 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.800 you get the routine? I'm like, no, routine was learn 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:34.960 the routine planning. 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:37.920 It's a fucking it's it's it's like a big thing. 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.200 I turned up to the to rehearsals and honestly said 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:43.840 to Will, I'm here. Where are you? We was like, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.440 we're over here because you're with the other first Nations. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:48.720 I'm like, I don't know. There was two. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:50.400 I think there was a four or something. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.360 Yes, so you know there's a lot of people. How 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.160 many floats. I was like, literally number one hundred. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:58.800 Yeah, it was number one. I think there was like 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.040 one hundred and ninety or something, thing like they usually 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:02.840 cap it at some point. But that's how it goes 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:03.440 for fucking hour. 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:05.240 How how long does it go for? 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.000 Like four hours? 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:07.960 Two kilometer walk? 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:09.120 Seven kilometers? 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.480 Seven kilometer walk in whatever. Stiletto's father was rare and. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:13.840 Stillattos rocked it. 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.880 Oh hell, all the way down seven kilometers of road. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.360 But that's that's the PG part about Mardi Gras. The 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:22.800 rest of it's quite debaucherous. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:27.680 Oh debaucherous, that can I just say quickly though. I 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.280 was marching with these two four lads on each side 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.720 of me and the rest of the flow. But one 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.680 of the lads that I was next to, his name 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.120 is Jas from the Pilgrim mob w A mob, So 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.360 he's come all the way over here first Marti Gras, 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:46.080 and it's electrifying. There's like a million people lining up 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.720 on the sides and screaming, and you full on like 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.199 get called up in all the hype right like you're 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.720 famous and everyone wants That's how I felt. I was like, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:01.439 you're waving to people, you're blowing kisses, you're dancing. Everyone's 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:02.680 loving you, you're loving them. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.240 It is the alt and. 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:10.000 It's a feeling i've never felt. I loved it, even 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:11.920 as a non queer woman. I loved every bit of it. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.120 But in this moment, I saw the guy next to 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.880 me jas see he must have spotted his partner, and 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.560 he goes straight over to him, and I'm like, caught 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.160 up in all this, but I caught this moment where 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.480 they both started crying in terms of tears of joy 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.000 they had each other gave each other because he went 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:35.120 back in and we kept marching, and in my I 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.400 was like, well, no one else would have seen that, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.520 but I saw that moment, and afterwards I said, that 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.559 was so beautiful. That was at your partner's Like yeah, 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.240 because you know, this is just a big thing for me, 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.439 being a boy from the bush to come all the 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:50.640 way over here for this and so to me, you know, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.840 it was amazing, but I couldn't imagine what it means 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.359 for actually, mob. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.120 That's what I love about. Its seriously the best time. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.160 And we call it Gay Christmas because or the Gay Olympics, 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.480 one of the two, because it's like it's a marathon. 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.800 And mate, black fellows were shady as fuck without being gay. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:12.680 Imagine being gay and black. Like the claws come out, 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.280 the cats comes out, and I live for all of it. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.040 I love like that's my man. 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.720 Like that that is, but that's my cousin. I'm kissing 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:26.280 him later. That's the time. That's how it goes. No, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.480 but it's such a good time because it's it's the 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:32.080 one time that every year we know that when mob 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.120 come together, it's like pure love and joy and the 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.320 shadiness comes from a place of love and kindness. It's 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:41.880 the best because that's how black fellows go. Like it 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.520 goes about black humor, you know how we go. 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:46.720 On follows and geez you look real fat? 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.520 Yeah, always a double chinne work done that tummy tug? 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.640 What about the ball? Is there miss pearl, black pearl? 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.280 What is that sissy ball? 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.920 Yes, there is something. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.360 Yeah, this is sypo. So that's the introduction of like 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.920 the voguing and carol room scene, which is like part 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:07.720 of that black culture out of the US and stuff 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:09.800 like that. Like they've done a good job I think 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.679 over the years to try and be more inclusive. But 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:14.840 whilst the love MANI gras it also is really fucking 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:19.720 white really well. Yeah, I tried to get on the board. 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.720 Do you hear about that? No? I failed miserably. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:22.480 How come? 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.440 Well, it's like any other board. You run, just run 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:25.800 to a board and stuff like that. But it's with 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:27.880 the gay community. It's not very inclusive. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.280 I don't reckon are they bluck followers on the board? 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.120 Uh? There has been? 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:34.640 Is it currently? 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:38.760 I don't know why not. I will say the board 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:43.000 has made a very interesting decision recently by asking the 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:43.920 cops not to march. 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:50.160 Okay, that's interesting it on TV, you know, because some 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:52.840 of these boards are quite conservative, so I was just 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:58.000 thinking whether they would be supportive of the communities. 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:00.640 Require getting into the reasons to why. I think everyone 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.920 knows who listened to this and probably watch the news 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.079 and understands it. What I will say, it's probably the 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.560 right call in my view. I like, you look at 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.360 this like Plice haven't really done. From the First Nation's 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.320 float and stuff, there's been lots of yards supporting the 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.920 idea of having the police not march, and everyone's like, oh, 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.040 the police are there protect us. But the police are 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.280 fucking there to protect us regardless of whether they're marching. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.680 That's their job. That's what they get paid for to 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.679 protect civilization. So I'm not worried about fucking that nonsense, 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:29.400 but I understand why it has been a topic of 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:30.959 conversation for a little while. But I think it's the 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:31.800 right thing they should. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.400 Have done back in the day. In terms of the 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.439 history of Martin. He goes, how did this all start? 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.520 It was a movement and what I know from some 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.679 of the elders that were a part of it. Do 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.200 you know there were a lot of mob marching with 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.280 them just in solidarity. So when people say blackfellows a 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.760 kind of homophobic, can you see communitys homophobic? There's heaps 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.960 of evidence to say that fucking mob was supportive of 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.199 queer movements back in the seventies when the seventy eighties 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:56.760 got locked up, and there's a lot of black fellows 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:58.760 got locked up with them because I'm marching in solidarity 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.080 with them. Started it was a parade. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:08.240 In Sydney, well, always in Sydney, where else Oxford Street, 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.119 not just for listening that don't know about Marty Grass. 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.640 Started in King's Cross. Okay, it was march because they 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.680 were discriminative and they used to target what happened. 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.240 So it's like, it's like our protests on Jan. Twenty six, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:23.560 Marty Grass started out of it's a protest, that's now 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.800 this big celebration. Yeah, similar to Jan twenty six, like 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.360 we all come together, there's a big protest and then 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.360 we go down to Survival dale Yarvin and it's a 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.800 huge celebration kind of. But I'm just saying, like, I 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.320 got you mean, was it a pro I didn't know 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.160 that it started from a protest movement. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.600 I didn't know that it was a protest because from 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.480 my understanding, there was a lot of queen mob being 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.760 targeted by police. They would go to specific hotels and 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.480 clubs and spaces where particularly men were cruising. 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.560 Or andashing and bashing and locking them up. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.760 Yeah, so that was in a march, and from there's 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.200 a lot of queer women who also led that, which 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.560 is kind of a common theme across queer rights is 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:10.200 how women usually let it. We'll be back right after 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:10.720 this break. 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:20.560 So that's interesting how it's a protest movement. It's like 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.840 coppers joining us on our protests on could you imagine? 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.000 I was just thinking that that would be an interesting 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.600 because Angeline has said they can march, but just not 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:30.400 with uniform. 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.400 I think that might have been which I'm sure. Yeah. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.640 And the same thing with you know, black follows. I'm 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:36.920 sure we know that there are black fellows who are. 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.760 Proppers, but I would feel. 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:47.280 Weird, Yeah if they came and marched with us in uniform. 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.560 Look, yeah, I don't know, it's for me. You need 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.200 to take away the human centric perspective and say, look 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:57.280 at the institute. The institute inherently discriminates against average people 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.240 and LGBTQ people, so that as an institute in you 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.560 should not be marching. But I get if people are 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.680 in those institutes who are gay or queer, then I'm like, well, 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.040 I don't want to say no to them, because then 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.480 we're just perpetually excluding people. It's a really fucking finite line, right. 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.520 That need to that they belong and this is where 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:16.040 they belong. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.360 Yeah, but look to the back to the fun of 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.640 Mardi Gras. Whilst all seriousness aside, it is a week 0:15:23.760 --> 0:15:25.560 long of pure debauchery. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:28.120 Okay, tell us the best, tell us your best Martigra? 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:29.480 Was it last year because of Kelly? 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:32.680 Last year was sick because it was World Pride and 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.520 we led them. We led the Harbor. We led the 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:38.200 march and then the next that weekend or the weekend 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.640 before I got to march over the Harbor Bridge and 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:44.880 open the Harbor Bridge with my kids. The seven years 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:48.240 old had had the cape and was marching with Tay. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.440 Her name is that's it? Tay the Torrest Island. One 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.160 heard the Torreshound flag and is us leading these parade 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.600 with his other two gay boys waving the big flat 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.000 in the opening of the march over That. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.120 Was the opening of World Pride. 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.320 It was unreal. It's fucking sick. So now my kids 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:05.080 have an experience to say that they got to do it, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:06.720 which is pretty special in my view. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:08.040 I want to go next year that. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.120 We should march, but we should do it properly though. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.360 So it starts off with being quite civil and it 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:17.120 ends up with being four am, finishes blow jobs in 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.320 alleyways and okay, and is that. 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:20.800 Where we're going? 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:23.840 A week and a week long, a week long of 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:28.920 STI checks after the sexual health clinic. Okay, so seriously, 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:29.600 have you. 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:33.160 Not heard listen? I would like to do part of that. 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.880 But all definitely not the blow job. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.960 So I had a couple of friends that they in 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.560 the lead up to it. They would then get on 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.000 prep and they would go prepare to get cultural lips, 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:43.880 and they call it Marti Grau lips because that'd end 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:48.520 up with seriously because I tell you it's it's humble, 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.200 it's like it's it's it's nice as in Marti grad. 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:54.360 But it is a time for queer people to just 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:55.160 let loose. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.400 Well, I thought, I let my hair out. 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.160 You know, it's like our version of like Corey Knockout. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.480 But so that's what I'm saying. That's so so you know, 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:05.400 in a couple of episodes ago, I was talking about 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.680 kissing cousins. That's how almost kissed my cousin at Mardi Gras. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:11.000 So I'm I'm a ship. Well what do you what 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:11.720 are you wrong that? 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.760 I just thought, I think that's really interesting. 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:15.359 Jenny's face? 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.600 Will you kissing cousins? 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:21.000 Oh, Jenny, do you want to know? You're mad? 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:21.720 You want to? 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:23.280 I want to kiss my cousin. 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:28.000 I just think I haven't kissed my cousin, like I'm 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.840 not saying I have, but that was the time because 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.320 it's like the knockout. So when you get literally so 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:34.280 there's one hundred and twenty black fellows at March, right, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.439 But there's not just there's like parties and stuff that 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.520 they go, so like there's there's not that often you get. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.480 Is there exclusive like invitation only parties. 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:44.439 I've never been, but I. 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.400 Think americ amex or Facebook or someone they held an 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:49.480 ex TikTok or a. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.719 TikTok, But I'm not sure that's the same exclusive. Are 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:53.800 you thinking about like a sex party or Oh I 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.280 don't know. I can't imagine TikTok's come get tick, come 0:17:57.359 --> 0:17:58.520 get ticked, where you get topped. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.800 No, I just said that there was obviously these exclusive 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:07.479 invitation only parties. Yeah, that big corporate's put on with 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.240 all these influences. I did see some photos on Instagram 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:12.600 last year that I thought. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.440 Yeah, when you said exclusives, like I thought you meant 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:16.480 like sex parties. 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:19.520 Oh, I know people who hosted sex bidies, Martygraph because 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:20.680 people travel all over. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:26.920 We've been to a sex buddy. Yeah, yeah, years old 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.679 and now don't do that to me. 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:34.480 I'm thirty, Linda, Linda, we've had yarns about some of 0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:39.840 your escapades over dinner. Do you want to you ain't? No, Angel, honey, Yeah, yeah, 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.280 exactly right. Mine might be a little bit more debaucherous 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.440 than yours, but nevertheless, we've all been there. 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.440 Can I just want a mob on on Instagram live. 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:54.280 Debaucherous, the baucherous It's like that never heard a debaucherous Yeah. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:55.400 But all the time. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:58.520