1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken the podcast. It's not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 2: Our names are Amy Kate and Sophie Torba. 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: We're identical triplets, but we. 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: Often don't have identical opinions. 6 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: So sometimes things can get heated. Outspoken covers all things 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues facing women. That is 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: so fat Thank you. I hope you guys understand how 9 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: much we'd love bringing this show to you because we 10 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: have pushed on and recorded today despite it being forty 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: one degrees. I currently have the best spot in our 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: little podcast studio because I'm under the air conditioner. But 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: I've got to say, my legs are like sliding off 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: this chair. 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: They're so sweaty. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I think that's the worst thing about having a heat 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: wave over the weekend. There's really limited things you can 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: do in saying that. Amy, you have a weekend that's 19 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: packed full of events. We had Dale's party last night, 20 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: which you did an incredible job hosting at your house. 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you. I finally got the chance to 22 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: make platters on my own without the health of you guys, 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: because normally when we have an event together, I'm not 24 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: trusted to make anything I get stuck outside cleaning up. Yeah, 25 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Amy kind of is relegated to their outdoor task because 26 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: she's better at doing that sort of stuff, and Sophie 27 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: and I take over. But hats off to you because 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: you did some amazing platters. I was going to eat 29 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: dinner beforehand, but once I saw you snapchat through to 30 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: meet that chocolate platter and also all those cheeses, I 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: was like, that is going to be my dinner. I 32 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: did go on Pinterest to get some inspo, so I 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: was actually like, you know, when you actually surprised how 34 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: good this stuff looks, I was like, wow, Actually, I 35 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: was quite pleased with myself. 36 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: Was a bit sad. 37 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: I had a realization during your party, and it was 38 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: that we are well and truly in our thirties. So 39 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: a group of Dale's friends, eight of them, they rocked 40 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: up in the same car. I think it was a 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: van driven by one of the guys, and basically I 42 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: thought like when they arrived, was like, oh, yeah, these 43 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: guys are in for a long night. They were having 44 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: fireball shots, they were getting into it, and then all 45 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, at ten thirty, they just abruptly got 46 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: up and left because they had to. 47 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: Go and see their kids at home. 48 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Can I just say when they arrived, I honestly felt 49 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: like I was on the bachelorette because they only really 50 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: knew me, and so they were all coming in. There 51 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: was like a big line of them just giving me 52 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: a kiss and saying hello. I've got to say a 53 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: highlight of the night for me was when it got 54 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: down to about a group of eight and we were 55 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: just debating the best chocolates and the best shapes. And 56 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: I've got to say, that is such a great discussion. Yeah, 57 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: I was saying that that could be a really funny 58 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: spinoff podcast literally doing like discussing the tear system of 59 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: different things, like say it was shapes, biscuits, which ones 60 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: are the best or food hierarchies. How could would that 61 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: be people to listen to. It's basically like a mook bung 62 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: turned into a podcast, I feel but you don't get 63 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: the visual element of seeing someone eating. That. Being said, 64 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I get really irritated hearing people eat 65 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: food if they were to taste the hierarchy. Actually, that's 66 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: a good idea. That could be a really good YouTube 67 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: series where you have to like give her people debating 68 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: which are the best ones, and you see them eating it, 69 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: I feel like no one ever is going to agree 70 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: with you, Like you're just going to get a lot 71 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: of hate for that because everyone has a different opinion 72 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: on shop don't make me une full of children. UK 73 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: influencers are facing severe backlash as they dodge travel restrictions 74 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: by claiming their holidays abroad are essential work trips. The 75 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: famous Brits are losing followers in their droves as they 76 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: show off their extravagant beach getaways during the pandemic. So, firstly, 77 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: before we get into it, can you tell us exactly 78 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: what the UK lockdown rules are, because the UK are 79 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: now in their third lockdown and there seems to be 80 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: a bit of confusion about how the lockdown compares to 81 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: Australia's and what actually is going on. Well, people in 82 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: the UK must stay at home and only go out 83 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: for a reasonable excuse. And I find this wording really 84 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: interesting because something that is reasonable to you may be 85 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: unreasonable to someone else. And I think the word excuse 86 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: has a connotation that if you come up with something plausible, 87 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: then you can get away with actually being out and about. 88 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: And I feel like it's these sorts of loopholes that 89 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: have gotten the UK into the situation they are in now. Well, 90 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: they're also not as specific about traveling from your home, 91 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: so it said travel should be local, which is defined 92 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: as avoiding travel outside of your village, town or the 93 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: part of the city where you live. If traveler is required, 94 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: the guidance says people should avoid car sharing with people 95 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: from outside their households. I find that really interesting because 96 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: when Melbourne had their strict lockdown, people were only allowed 97 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: to be five kilometers from that house. But I mean, 98 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: how big are certain towns in England. Well, I think 99 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: we're just because in the UK it's very different to Australia, 100 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: so it's of course their guidelines are going to be 101 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: a little bit different. It's hard for us to sort 102 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: of tear them apart. 103 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: When we're not living it. 104 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Well, I think it is quite easy for us in 105 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: Australia to tear apart their rules because they've obviously been 106 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: extremely ineffective. I mean, we did a podcast back in 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: June where we were shocked that the UK government allowed 108 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: people to travel abroad, and I feel like that travel 109 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: keeps happening, which is what we're going to be talking 110 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: about a little bit later about these loopholes that. 111 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 2: Influencers are using to go to Dubai. 112 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: Well we should probably move into essential work trips and 113 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: the loopholes that you UK influencers and reality stars are 114 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: using to make sure that they can still travel during 115 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: the national lockdown. So on the twelfth of January, the 116 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: UK actually announced that people would no longer be able 117 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: to travel to the United Arab Emirates and that really 118 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: surprised me because the national lockdown was announced on January fourth, 119 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: so I was so surprised that people were still traveling anyway. Well, 120 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: it was actually removed from the travel corridor, So basically 121 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: it means that previously, if you had gone anywhere like 122 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: Dubai or anywhere in the United Arab Emirates, you would 123 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: not have to isolate. So now they've put in place 124 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: that those people who were returning from their need to 125 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: isolate for ten days, which is also quite topical because 126 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: of course when people come home to Australia you have 127 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: to isolate for fourteen days, so it's all very odd 128 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: and interestingly, before that travel band was put in place, 129 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: a lot of the Love Island contestants have fled to 130 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 1: Dubai and they have increasingly been pissing people off by 131 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: posting very tone deaf travel photos and vlogs in Dubai. Well, 132 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the influencers were trying to pass off 133 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: the trip as necessary for their jobs and saying that 134 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: they had endorsement deals to do over there. And it's 135 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: quite hilarious because a number of the reality TV stars 136 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: have made the conscious effort to be posting the fact 137 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: that they're on their laptops on their Instagram stories. As 138 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: soon as this new rule was announced. Well, I found 139 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: it very funny because Love Island's Olivia Attwood, who is 140 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: currently based in Manchester, actually called out a bunch of 141 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: her co stars and branded their decision to travel to 142 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Dubai as tone deaf. So Olivia basically said that influencers 143 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,679 Speaker 1: are lying about the need to travel in order to work, 144 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: and she said she's actually been doing more work at 145 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: home in rainy cold Manchester that any of them have 146 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: been doing in Dubai. I actually haven't seen any of this. 147 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: Are you able to tell exactly what Olivia said? Well, 148 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: she was getting really frustrated about the fact that influencers 149 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: were posting that they're really stressed because they don't know 150 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: whether they should be posting or not posting, and she 151 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: actually said that's not stress. People literally can't feed their children. 152 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: We are in a national situation where there are children 153 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: literally starving being given these sad little bags of food 154 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: from the government. Olivia then went on to urge fans 155 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: not to troll these influencers, because she explained that by 156 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: commenting hate on their photos, you're actually driving their engagement up. 157 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: She actually said instead that people should hit them where 158 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: it hurts and unfollow them, because she said that's when 159 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: they're going to start losing brand deals. And it's quite 160 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: interesting because people have actually followed her advice. People like 161 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Laura Anderson, who appeared on Love Island series four, lost 162 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: twelve thousand followers after irritating followers because she actually put 163 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: up a post offering to give fans a behind the 164 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: scenes glimpse at her work day so they could see 165 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: how hard it was to be an influencer. 166 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 167 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: So but what are they even doing over there? I mean, 168 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: what are they promoting that they can't promote in the UK? 169 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Well Anton, who appeared on Love Island series five, and 170 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: for those who don't remember him. He was the one 171 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: that his mum shaved his bum. Yeah that I was 172 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: trying to think how I could put her eloquently, but yeah, 173 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: his mum shaved his ass. So he actually lost fourteen 174 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: thousand followers because he posted a photo of the skyline 175 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: in Dubai with the caption love my office view. I 176 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: think as soon as they rock up to the airport 177 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: and fill in the forms and say that they're an influencer, 178 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: that should be an immediate band for traveling. That is 179 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: not an excuse to be traveling. And I mean part 180 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: of being an influencer is to influence people's behavior. And 181 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: what are they doing influencing people to leave the UK 182 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: and go to Dubai, Well, essentially break the rules. I 183 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: do find it really interesting because if you compare as 184 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: you said, an influencer's job is to market a lot 185 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: of the time travel and at the moment, travel is 186 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: not something that people in the UK can do. So 187 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: would they not think that it's going to cause. 188 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: A lot of fury. 189 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, would a travel 190 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: agent like they can't work. It's not like they can say, oh, 191 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: I've got to go down to the office because I'm 192 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: booking a whole bunch of holidays for people. But I 193 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: don't think they're actually trying to promote travel. What they're 194 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: trying to do is use Dubai and the beach there 195 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: as a backdrop for to sell their product. So I 196 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: think no one wants to see them on the beach 197 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: when they're at home in the cold. Well I think seriously, Well, 198 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of them would be promoting 199 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: summer products, so they will. I mean, they're just clearly 200 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: using it as an excuse. But it was really interesting 201 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: because a holiday company called Trending Travel that specializes in 202 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: using celebrities to advertise, said it had been forced to 203 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: stop posting anything featuring influencers because of the backlash, and 204 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: its chief executive Keith Herman, said the company had advised 205 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: about fifteen influencers it works with and who were in 206 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Dubai against posting at the moment because the backlash is 207 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: just out of control in the UK. Well, that's what 208 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: I don't get, because I don't understand how a brand 209 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: could be so unintelligent and think that it would be 210 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: a good idea to juxtaposition their product with someone who 211 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: has basically flouted the lockdown rules and has got to Dubai. 212 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: Someone who is copying a lot of flak for being 213 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: in Dubai is Jordie Shaw's Chloe Fairy. She traveled to 214 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: Dubai before the New Year, despite a widespread Tier four restrictions, 215 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: and because she labeled the trip as a work, it 216 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: allowed her to evade the strict lockdown rules banning international travel. 217 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: So what I found really funny is that she claims 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: that she has a special room in her accommodation that's 219 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: a sponsored room, So that's the room where she takes 220 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: all of her sponsored content in, as if that's an 221 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: excuse as to why she's traveling. I find that hard 222 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: to actually believe because I follow Chloe on Snapchat and 223 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of her stories regarding her 224 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: building her dream home. Now that home looked like I 225 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: had about seven different bedrooms. So surely she has a 226 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: content room at home, which a lot of influencers talk 227 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: about that she could be doing the same thing. I 228 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: don't know why it has to be done from Dubai. Well, 229 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I think the thing that annoyed a lot of people 230 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: is she said she was going to be there for 231 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: two months and that she was earning seven thousand pounds 232 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: per sponsored post whilst over there. Now she has posted 233 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: a total of thirty one images of herself absolutely living 234 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: it up. Most of them are bikini photos and there 235 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: were one or two product placements, so you can see 236 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: what people are very very angry over this. 237 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: I don't know who. 238 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: Actually is influenced to buy products by Chloe, Like I 239 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: just find it really funny the fact that her whole 240 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: persona on Jordie Shaw is being this really like sloppy, 241 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: drunk person. But then when they get on she gets 242 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: on Instagram, she tries to be this like Glamazon, posting 243 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: all these like overcurated photos. I find it so hilarious. 244 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: The thing I don't get is I would assume that 245 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: if you're traveling for work, it should be essential work, 246 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: and I would hardly say that being an influencer is 247 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: essential work. It's meant to be for people who would 248 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: adoptors and nurses and essential workers, not bloody influencers. Well, 249 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: Chloe has actually cut the trip short, and I do 250 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: think it must be coming from advice from one of 251 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: her talent managers. Another UK influencer who cut their trip 252 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: shore is Molly May and Tommy Fury from Love Island, 253 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: and Molly has been posting a lot of lockdown vlogs 254 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: at the moment, and I've got to say, if I 255 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: was in lockdown, that's the content I would actually like 256 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: to consuming, not seeing people on holiday. Do you know what? 257 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: Okay? 258 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: I've been loving el Darvey's lockdown vlogs and she's actually 259 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: one of the UK influencers who has stayed put in 260 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: the UK during the lockdown, but she is copying it 261 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: online at the moment because it's come out that her fiance, 262 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: Connors Swift, has gone and got a hair transplant during 263 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: the lockdown. So they're located in bath and there's rumors 264 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: online that they travel to London overnight to get this 265 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: hair transplant. I do wonder if they've got around this 266 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: by claiming that this is a work requirement for them, 267 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: so they are allowed to travel for it. How would 268 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: it be work like? Do you mean that it's his 269 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: job to look good for Instagram photos or do you 270 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: mean that perhaps he's been provided this hair transplant for 271 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: free in the like sponsored posts? Well, referring to the 272 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: fact that I think it is a sponsored job that 273 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: he's doing so he's going to get paid for promoting 274 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: this place. That's a strange concept because I don't know 275 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: why a company would be promoting hair transplants if people 276 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: aren't able to then action that and go get one. Well, 277 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: the thing is they're reason they've been able to do 278 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: it is because you are allowed to travel in the 279 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: UK for medical reasons and medical appointments, and bizarrely a 280 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: hair transplant actually fits into the category of a medical appointment. 281 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm so surprised because in Australia we had a differentiation 282 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: between elective surgery and surgery that was required, and all 283 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: the elective surgery got canceled in Australia, even procedures for endometriosis, 284 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: which I think are obviously far more important than someone 285 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: getting plastic surgery or sorry, cosmetic surgery on their hair. Well, 286 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: the controversial decision to keep the transplant clinics open has 287 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: been widely discussed in the UK press. I mean, one 288 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: would argue that cosmetic procedures during a lockdown should not 289 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: be a valid reason to travel, and a lot of 290 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: people are furious about it, and a lot of people 291 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: have been saying that they want to report Lle and 292 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: her partner Connor in their masses, So they've been trying 293 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: to work out where the pair lived, because you need 294 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: to know someone's address in order to report them for 295 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: doing the wrong thing. I think it'd be pretty easy 296 00:13:58,120 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: to work out where they live based on where they 297 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: are actually vlog from. I feel like it does make 298 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: a lot of sense that influencers are using this downtime 299 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: to actually go get cosmetic procedures, because I know there's 300 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: a lot of scrutiny around when influencers get their boobs 301 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: done or whatnot, and I feel like, if you have 302 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: to stay in the house, there's a perfect amount of 303 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: time for you to recover from something like that. 304 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 305 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, one UK influencer, Jordan Carter, he's also gone and 306 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: got a hair transplant, and it's clearly sponsored by this 307 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: particular clinic, and it's thought that that's where CON's gone 308 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: to get his transplant. And the reason that these clinics 309 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: are using influencers at the moment is because travel to 310 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Turkey has obviously been stopped during lockdown, and that's where 311 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: most people go to get hair transplants because they're cheap. 312 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of like Ossie's who go to Thailand for 313 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: a boob job. If you want to get a hair transplant, 314 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: you go to Turkey. While I don't like the fact 315 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: that con has apparently broken lockdown rules, I do like 316 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: the fact that male cosmetic enhancements are becoming more of 317 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: a thing that's publicly talked about. 318 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 319 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with getting a hair transfer, 320 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: but I think can you wait together? After lockdown? People 321 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: are dying in the UK. They're recording one point eight 322 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: thousand deaths a day. It just seems so selfish and 323 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: so self absorbed to be doing stuff like this in 324 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: the Lockdown. 325 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to put my drink on her. 326 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: Now, let's get into the reality wrap. Now. I'm so 327 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: excited for Sunday because it's the much awaited Maths reunion show. Yeah, 328 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: I cannot wait. The most controversial contestants are returning basically 329 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: to hashover pass scandals, but we all not just say that. 330 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: They argue and brawl, and everyone gets really excited for 331 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: Maths to be coming back on our screens. I feel 332 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: like the producers of Maths would be kicking themselves the 333 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: fact that Seb and Elizabeth broke up recently because there 334 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: aren't very many contestants still together. The couples that are 335 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: still together that are returning to the reunion are Jewels 336 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: and Cam and Aaron and Bryce. They've also got Martha 337 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: and Michael. However, I feel like Martha's only been brought 338 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: back to fight with Cyrel hopefully. Did you see that 339 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: there were new rumors that Elizabeth is going to return 340 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: for the latest series. She's already warded them down and 341 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: been like, guys, this was filmed last year and we've 342 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: only just announced that we've broken up, so of course 343 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be back on the show. Yeah, well, 344 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I cannot wait till Sunday and we will talk about 345 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: everything that goes down on that episode. I'm wondering if 346 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: any wine will be thrown now. This is a really 347 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: sad one. Mick Norcross, who was on The Only Ways 348 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Essex sadly passed away last week. Yeah, this one really 349 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: shocked me. I woke up on Thursday and you had 350 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: sent it to me because Jemma Collins was posting about 351 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: it on her Instagram. So, as you said, Mick was 352 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: found dead at his home on Thursday afternoon, and it 353 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: is believed the fifty seven year old took his own 354 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: life at seven seventeen. On Thursday morning, Mick tweeted at 355 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: the end, remind yourself that you did the best you 356 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: could and that is good enough. This made me feel 357 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: so sad. I really loved watching Mick on The Only 358 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Ways Essex and he joined the show back in twenty 359 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: ten and was on it with his son Kirk up 360 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: until twenty thirteen. And Mick used to run Sugar Hut, 361 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: which was the bar that all the young people used 362 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: to go to, and Jemma Collins had a big crush 363 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: on him and he always came across as such. 364 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: A lovely guy. 365 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: I think the timing of this is just so tragic, 366 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: and it's so sad because obviously this has happened when 367 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: the UK is in this third lockdown, and it just 368 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: shows how detrimental these lockdowns can be to people's mental health. 369 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't want to make any assumptions as 370 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: to why Mick took his own life. His former coastar, though, 371 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: did shed a little bit of light onto mixed frame 372 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: of mind around mental health. So Maria Falcone shared how 373 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: Mick had actually been the only person from the Toy 374 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: cast that reached out to Mario during his battle with depression. 375 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: So Mario wrote, when I went through my battle with 376 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: depression suicide, you were the only one from the show 377 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: that reached out and cared about me. You were someone 378 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: I looked up to and held in the highest regard. 379 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: The thought of you going through the same pain and 380 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: emotional darkness I did breaks my heart. This made shivers 381 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: go down my spine reading that out. It's just so heartbreaking, 382 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: and it's really something that's hard to get your head around. 383 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: When someone is so successful, they've had fame, they're rich, 384 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: it really puts life into perspective, I suppose. And what 385 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: kind of pissed me off, though, is the UK press's 386 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: coverage over this story, because every article talking about Mick 387 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: they used photos of him in a suit at Sugar Hut, 388 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: surrounded by all these girls and bikinis, and as if 389 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: it was if they were like promoting the fact like 390 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, look at this rich guy that's gone 391 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: and done this, Like it was just really distasteful. Well, 392 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: it really shows that depression doesn't discriminate. It doesn't matter 393 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: if you're the wealthiest person in the world or the 394 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: poorest person in the world. Everyone can go through these 395 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: dark times. And if this topic has brought up any 396 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: issues personally or if you are struggling with mental health, 397 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: please know that Lifeline is there to talk to and 398 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: the number is thirteen eleven fourteen. Well, just on a 399 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: lighter note, while looking at all the tributes to Mick, 400 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: I did come across Choey Star Bobby Norris's Instagram account, 401 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, he looks so different. For those 402 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: who don't remember Bobby, I can just get I just 403 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: get Jemma Collins's voice in my head, Bobby, and then 404 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: we need to have an upside. 405 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do an upsort. 406 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm aggressive, poppy. 407 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 2: You do need to calm down, zarline right up against 408 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: someone like yay babe. 409 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: If I went into a phestorist and looked up aggressive, 410 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: there'd be a picture of Jemma Collin. So Bobby was 411 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 1: one of my favorite characters on toy and he actually 412 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: has gotten so buff it's incredible. I did not recognize 413 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: him at all. It seems like he's been using his 414 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: lockdown to get fit and good on him. Now, for 415 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: those interested, we are going to put a before and 416 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: after photo of Bobby up in our Facebook community and 417 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: also on our insta story, so you've got to check 418 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: it out. 419 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 2: Do say that one more time. 420 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: I'll that cheap week off your aid. Now let's get 421 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: into the influencer rap. And on Thursday night, I feel 422 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: like my whole Instagram was full of stories about the 423 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: Happy Hours Live show. I was having sofia fomo looking 424 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: at this all go on on my Instagram feed. They 425 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: seem to have so many amazing people there, and one 426 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: of those guests was Abby Chatfield. Now she caught the attention, 427 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 1: of course, of the Daily Mail because she got up 428 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: on stage and while she was being interviewed, she decided 429 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: to demonstrate set expositions on the host, Lucy Jackson. There 430 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: were some hilarious photos in the Daily Mail, but of 431 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: course the Daily Mail being the Daily Mail, they were 432 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: quite disgusting when they did their write up of what happened. 433 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: So the writer wrote some pretty sexist comments about Abby's 434 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,959 Speaker 1: body and what she was wearing. So they described her 435 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: as putting on a busty display and inserted a picture 436 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: of Abby like mid conversation with her tongue out and 437 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: sort of she was looking down at her boobs. It 438 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: was just so ridiculous. They also discussed how she posted 439 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: a video on Instagram of herself trying on bathers and 440 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: they said she showed off her curves and flaunted her 441 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: curvy dairy air. Do you know what I hate about 442 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,719 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail is they now have this trend of 443 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: putting up a really unflattering photo of somebody, but they'll 444 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: say something really positive like, ah, look at her at 445 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: the beach. She looks great, and it's to entice other 446 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: people to make negative comments. Yeah, it's a lot of 447 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: waiting going on, and you definitely can see it in 448 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 1: the comments because people then write disgusting things. I do 449 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: think though, that the Daily Mail was cleverly invited to 450 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: the event because there were three articles about how great 451 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: the event was on the Daily Mail. The Veronicas even 452 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: appeared and performed Untouched. Of course the Daily Mail all 453 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: they could talk about was how skinny the girls were 454 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: in their outfits. But personally, from someone who loves the 455 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: Veronica's music, I really wanted to be there when they 456 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: were singing Untouched. Now let's move on to Olivia Rogers. 457 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: Olivia flew back to her hometown, Adelaide over the weekend 458 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: for a friend's wedding, and unfortunately her trip to the 459 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: airport was soured by a comment from a male security 460 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: guard in his late fifties to sixties. Now, this made 461 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: me feel absolutely sick to my stomach. So she wore 462 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: a mid length summerddress to the airport on a very 463 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: hot day and had to endure this man commenting on 464 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: her outfit choice. The security guard said, oh, yep, that's 465 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: what you wear in a hot day, young lady. Olivia responded, yep, 466 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty hot today. He then continued and said, well, 467 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: you aren't wearing much at all, are you, so you 468 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: can't complain. Olivia waited a little bit to see if 469 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: the man then commented on the guy behind her appearance, 470 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: who was wearing shorts and a singlet. Of course he 471 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: did not. And it just reminded me of so many 472 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: situations that I've been in where you just get these 473 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: uncomfortable comments from older men and you kind of have 474 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: to laugh it off because there's not really much else 475 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: you can sometimes say in those situations. Well, I like 476 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Olivia's responses and the fact that she then did make 477 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: this experience public because, as you said, so many of 478 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: us have gone through things like that, and you don't 479 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: know what to say, like, I feel like you can't 480 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: actually challenge these men because they don't understand what's wrong 481 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: with what they've said. Do they realize that they just 482 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: sound like old pervs? That's literally what they come across 483 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: as it's gross. Well, just to wrap up, Sophie, it's 484 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: not an influencer wrap without Sky Wheatly. 485 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 486 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: Well, Sky Wheatley has launched a new Instagram account dedicated 487 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: to her renovation project, which has been happening for about 488 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: nine months now. She shared a photo of herself on 489 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: Instagram with a power tool in her hand and captioned 490 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: it blood, sweat and tears nine months of pure pain 491 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: and exhaustion, then tag the renovation page. So what I 492 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: found funny was Sky was actually featured in the Gold 493 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: Coast bulletin about her and she said that she couldn't 494 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: believe how many people followed the renovation page and cared 495 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: about it. She said she thought maybe they'd get a 496 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: thousand followers, but the page has quickly grown to fifty 497 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: two thousand people following it. I've got to say, as 498 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: someone who has tried to watch Sky Wheatley's renovation bogs, 499 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I am very surprised that people are interested in it. 500 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps though, because I found that I can't sit through 501 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: unedited hour of footage of someone renovating like she doesn't 502 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: really fasten it up. But perhaps Instagram's are better forum 503 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: for that type of content because you can see very 504 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: quickly that before and the after photo. Well, the page 505 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 1: is very esthetic, and the thing that I think has 506 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: captured a lot of people's interest is that the house 507 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: is an old abandoned mansion that they've done up. They 508 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: snapped it up for nine hundred and seventy five thousand 509 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: dollars in all that snapped it up as if it's 510 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: really cheap and an old abandoned mansion. It wasn't abandoned. 511 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: It was it was abandoned, and I say, you snap 512 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: it up. Obviously that's a lot of money. But for 513 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: anyone who's seen it, it's on a massive property. It 514 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: is a humongous house, and it's kind of like a 515 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Spanish inspired match and it's looking incredible at the moment. 516 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: For those who have followed the page, like myself, well, 517 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: Sky seems pretty lucky because her partner, Lucky, is a 518 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: professional shop fitter, so he has been doing the bulk 519 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: of renovations himself. It's quite funny the bits and pieces 520 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: that I've seen of Sky's vlogs, he seems to be 521 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: very much doing everything. And I mean, she's got a 522 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: child to look after and he's pregnant. But I feel 523 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: like she is more the creative person behind the designs. 524 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: She's probably telling how she wants it styled. 525 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: What I did find quite interesting though, is that they 526 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: seem to be in a race against the clock to 527 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: have the upstairs area and the nursery finished before she 528 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: gives birth. It's crazy. She's actually six months pregnant at 529 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: the moment, so they don't have long to get it 530 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: all done. Wow, that is amazing that it's been six months, 531 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: because I do remember when Sky revealed that she was pregnant, 532 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: and I think for the first six to eight weeks 533 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: she didn't even know herself because it was unplanned and 534 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: she thought she was just bloated from bulking. Can you 535 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: imagine that, though, if you found out you were having 536 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: child unexpectedly, and you've got this whole house that's unsafe 537 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: and not fit to bring a newborn child into the 538 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: world in well, I think renovating and a newborn baby 539 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: is not a good mix. For anyone. 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