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Speaker 1: Black Cast, Unite our voices.

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Speaker 2: Black Magic Women Podcast acknowledges the traditional owners of the

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Speaker 2: land we have recorded this episode on. We also acknowledge

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Speaker 2: traditional owners of the land where you, the listener ofvier

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Speaker 2: are tuning in from.

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Speaker 1: We would like to pay our respects to our.

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Speaker 2: Elders past and present and acknowledged that this always was

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Speaker 2: Aboriginal land and always will be Aboriginal land.

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Speaker 3: So there was three awards that go out. There was

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Speaker 3: four or five of us left. Yeah, made it to

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Speaker 3: the final bit, but this is where I get dusted.

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Speaker 3: So it was Pharrell and Rhianna.

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Speaker 4: They tied for like the gold one, and then there's

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Speaker 4: me and ed Sheer and left, and then I ended

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Speaker 4: up getting the bronze one.

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Speaker 3: And then I have a laugh. Is bronze enough? He

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Speaker 3: didn't need?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Black Magic Woman Podcast with Mondonara Bail.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to part two of Mondanara's chat with Nookie Live

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Speaker 4: south By Southwest Sydney.

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Speaker 3: We pick up where we left off.

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Speaker 4: Nookie yarns with Montanara about his group three percent three percent.

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Speaker 1: You're wearing it on your hat.

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Speaker 2: So those that are not in the room and not

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Speaker 2: watching when this comes out on YouTube three percent of

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Speaker 2: assistance for the fact that blackfellows make up.

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Speaker 1: Three percent of the population. How did that come about?

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Speaker 2: You got two other brothers that you decided to collaborate with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's three percent. That's up for the four arias.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, oh we take home free I'll be happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: one each. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: When we were making the music, look, I wrote a

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Speaker 4: big list of names. I sent it over to Dallas

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Speaker 4: and he said three percent is the one. And then

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Speaker 4: when we decided to do it again, it was just

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Speaker 4: like I wanted it to be a constant reminder. You know,

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Speaker 4: we were one hundred percent of this country once quite

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Speaker 4: a time and now we're three percent. So it was

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Speaker 4: like every you know Spotify playlist, we're on every festival

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Speaker 3: It's front and center.

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Speaker 4: You know, you canin'd of escape it, and it's not

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Speaker 4: necessarily I'm not trying to use it as a.

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Speaker 3: Bad thing or a good things.

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Speaker 4: You take it out, you want to take that, but

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Speaker 4: it's a reminder and it's not the true, the truth.

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Speaker 4: So I wanted that to shine out amongst all the

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Speaker 4: all the noise out there.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, whenever you see.

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Speaker 4: We're playing this festival, we're going to see three percent

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Speaker 4: and people might subconsciously think about it, they might not,

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Speaker 4: or younger ones coming through that might actually, what's three percent?

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Speaker 4: Me and you can you don't let them know. So

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Speaker 4: it was a yeah, that's why we decided on that.

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Speaker 2: How did like, there's two brothers and one of them

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Speaker 2: raps and the other ones are producer singer.

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Speaker 1: He is a singer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so how the three of yours kind of get

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Speaker 1: The five or ten songs on that.

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Speaker 5: First EP thirteen maybe fourteen one of them, yeah, now

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Speaker 5: look me And so how it kind of happened was

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Speaker 4: I think, actually, I think it's the day I launched

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Speaker 4: where I worries. Me and Dallas link up and had

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Speaker 4: the energy just felt right. I know Dallas wanted to

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Speaker 4: I told him, I said, yes, sweet, we'll do another session.

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Speaker 4: I'll finish the song off with you and then you

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Speaker 4: with Dallas again and that one song turned into four songs.

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Speaker 4: And while this was happening, I was working on another

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Speaker 4: little project. I was working on a song with Angus.

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Speaker 4: He was singing the hook on it, which was like

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Speaker 4: an interpolation of an Uncle Jimmy little song. So what

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Speaker 3: I said, next to you, come to Sydney. We'll get

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Speaker 3: the work. We'll finish the songs. And now there's four songs.

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Speaker 3: You put it all out.

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Speaker 4: And so Dallas came up. We had the studio booked.

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Speaker 4: I call Angus. I said, brothers, I want to be

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Speaker 4: We'll finish our one too. So yeah, Angus flew. Now

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Speaker 3: He heard what he could do.

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Speaker 4: He goes, who's this lad? And I was like, that's

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Speaker 4: Angus is from up North coast. There mad mad voice

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Speaker 4: we just started jamming. Made a couple more songs and

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Speaker 4: that four songs that turned into the fourteen songs that

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Speaker 4: are on the album more just just like that, and

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Speaker 4: again it was one of those times where it felt

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even the cover, if you haven't seen three percent,

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Speaker 2: have a look because it's in the media, especially because

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Speaker 2: there's four arias. One of the arias is for best

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Speaker 2: album cover. So the album cover is Nicki Windmer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: remember that famous picture of the AFL play out lifting

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Speaker 1: So that to Nicky winma Is and Adam Goods did

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Speaker 2: And there's younger Abershal AFL players that are dealing with

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Speaker 2: lifting up their jerseys and pointing.

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Speaker 1: To their black skin.

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Speaker 2: So to have what made you choose that moment as

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Speaker 2: your cover And it's amazing that that's actually up for

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Speaker 2: best album cover for an aria.

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Speaker 4: Looking now a high school, we didn't have a lot

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Speaker 4: grew up looking at that picture and again there was

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Speaker 4: that message of hope and strength. He was copping it

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Speaker 4: that day and he lift up his jersey's you can't

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Speaker 4: change this. I'm black and I'm proud, and that to

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Speaker 4: me summed up the essence of what we were doing

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Speaker 4: touch and you know, show him the music, told him

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Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, nephew, you take it.

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Speaker 4: You go do your thing, and then rang up Uncle

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Speaker 4: Dan Boyd there again big fan of his artworker, said I,

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Speaker 4: unc I would love to have you a part of

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Speaker 4: this with us, sent him the music and he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm in and then said Uncle Nick, He said we

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Speaker 1: Because it's pixelated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's I was looking at it and just

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Speaker 2: couldn't imagine the whole thought process for an album cover.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's three of you is run.

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Speaker 2: You all got to agree on what you want and

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Speaker 2: then kind of feel that this is going to be

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Speaker 2: reality for blackfellows sometimes to.

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Speaker 1: Think about how people are going.

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Speaker 2: To perceive this, but to have Uncle Nicki's support pretty deadly.

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Speaker 2: And I was going to say in terms of We

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Speaker 2: Are Warriors, you mentioned before, and I know that there

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Speaker 2: was a documentary that you've done and at won some

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Speaker 2: award at Cans the Cans or Cans you know, the

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Speaker 2: Cahns Film Festival in Paris, Paris. So you want to brother,

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Speaker 2: this is crazy. You just walk past his brother in

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Speaker 2: done a frisking song with black eyed peas, Like this

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Speaker 2: is crazy success that most not even blackfellows, that musicians

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Speaker 2: and artists in general, you know, they might not want

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Speaker 2: growing up in Redfern, it's very far and few in

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Speaker 1: So it's just good timing that the album come out.

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Speaker 2: But We Are Warriors, I know that that's something that's

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Speaker 2: really close to your heart, close to home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's for me, Like that's the big legacy

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Speaker 3: I leave behind.

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Speaker 4: There's something that was come to me when I was

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Speaker 4: we are warriors. Is like it's a business. I started

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Speaker 4: organization movement. You know, could throw a million names on

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Speaker 4: it what it does. And yes, based off like a

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Speaker 3: Is there's a big fire down home and this was

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Speaker 4: So the mob there they've never seen fire before and

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Speaker 3: This was something bad.

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Speaker 4: They could see, you know, the destruction that was causing.

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Speaker 4: So this bird he comes down, he's I got what's

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Speaker 4: going on? Look this over here. We don't know what

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Speaker 3: So he has no worries. I'll go sust it out.

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Speaker 4: And this bird, he, you know, in that moment, he

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Speaker 3: And he could have stopped flying.

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Speaker 4: He could have laid down in that fire and let

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Speaker 3: With there we got him now.

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Speaker 4: And as he looks down, he sees his reflection in

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Speaker 4: So he started calling out, which is the core that

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Speaker 4: the rain came down and put out the fire. So

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Speaker 4: this you know, the people when he returned, they started

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Speaker 4: those scars were lessons that he carried.

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Speaker 3: And he became the rain bird. He became the bird

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Speaker 4: So that story is something I'll hold close to my

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Speaker 7: I saw you a global citizen earlier in the air

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Speaker 7: it about you Melbourne. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's really good.

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Speaker 3: Worries, what do you want to do? Let's go. But

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Speaker 4: So it's like even them in particular good ways, like

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, cool, that's that sounds good. Well, I'd

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Speaker 4: If things are like I want, often you're most likely

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Speaker 4: let's do this, but let me have thirty tickets for

443
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Speaker 4: the little kids now known to come and watch, you know.

444
00:22:19,351 --> 00:22:21,791
Speaker 4: So that's that's always this community first and foremost and

445
00:22:21,831 --> 00:22:22,751
Speaker 4: there everything I do.

446
00:22:23,231 --> 00:22:26,511
Speaker 3: So if I don't see benefit in the community, you know,

447
00:22:26,551 --> 00:22:29,631
Speaker 3: it doesn't even matter the price attached to it. Like, yes,

448
00:22:30,031 --> 00:22:31,111
Speaker 3: it's the mob first.

449
00:22:31,311 --> 00:22:34,311
Speaker 4: So that's that's what guy's my decision on, you know,

450
00:22:34,391 --> 00:22:38,391
Speaker 4: those things, working with those things, collaborations, talks, all that

451
00:22:38,431 --> 00:22:38,951
Speaker 4: sort of stuff.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I love it.

453
00:22:41,151 --> 00:22:46,271
Speaker 2: That's that's a very aboriginal response where our culture is

454
00:22:46,271 --> 00:22:50,191
Speaker 2: about the community, the mob, the collective. So it's like, okay,

455
00:22:50,231 --> 00:22:52,791
Speaker 2: that's great for me as an artist or as an individual,

456
00:22:52,791 --> 00:22:54,071
Speaker 2: but what about my community?

457
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Speaker 1: What can what can you do?

458
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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good piece of advice or

459
00:22:57,271 --> 00:23:00,071
Speaker 2: even a lesson for people that are listening to the podcast,

460
00:23:00,271 --> 00:23:02,871
Speaker 2: is that when you are coming to and you do

461
00:23:03,031 --> 00:23:05,911
Speaker 2: have some kind of project or initiative or you want

462
00:23:05,951 --> 00:23:10,191
Speaker 2: to collaborate with community with first nations, indigenous communities or

463
00:23:10,231 --> 00:23:13,511
Speaker 2: businesses or artists. You know, just think about you know,

464
00:23:13,551 --> 00:23:18,631
Speaker 2: what are you going to do beyond this project? Reciprocity

465
00:23:19,351 --> 00:23:21,591
Speaker 2: reciprocal you know, you give to me, I give back,

466
00:23:21,711 --> 00:23:25,911
Speaker 2: and that relationship should be long term and not just okay,

467
00:23:25,911 --> 00:23:28,271
Speaker 2: we did that event next week or last year and

468
00:23:28,311 --> 00:23:32,551
Speaker 2: that was it. So love the question and love the response,

469
00:23:32,671 --> 00:23:35,831
Speaker 2: my brother, So anyone else before we have to say goodbye?

470
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Speaker 1: Is the one last two yes down here at the front.

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Speaker 8: Hey, So I found your music actually through shazaming one

472
00:23:43,951 --> 00:23:48,351
Speaker 8: of your songs on Spotify on the radio, which is awesome,

473
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Speaker 8: but that's also that can be a time and a

474
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Speaker 8: place thing. So I was wondering if you had any artists,

475
00:23:53,991 --> 00:23:56,591
Speaker 8: music or outside of it that you'd like to shout out.

476
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Speaker 3: In the right direction of Yeah, there's heaps.

477
00:23:59,591 --> 00:24:01,751
Speaker 1: It is like you not leave anyone out now.

478
00:24:03,791 --> 00:24:07,791
Speaker 4: On on Friday Saturday, there's Ria who's like a new

479
00:24:07,831 --> 00:24:10,751
Speaker 4: singer kind of coming up through the ranks. There's Willie

480
00:24:10,791 --> 00:24:13,391
Speaker 4: Jay and Chazza there from around Waterloo and that same

481
00:24:13,471 --> 00:24:17,871
Speaker 4: area as Leroy young brother who's is from around Leeb There,

482
00:24:18,951 --> 00:24:22,591
Speaker 4: Bunge Lung with Adri Foller, rox S Lavvy. He's a

483
00:24:22,631 --> 00:24:25,591
Speaker 4: new guy coming up through the scenes. He'll be performing

484
00:24:25,631 --> 00:24:30,311
Speaker 4: there as well. There's Cage dropped some new stuff recently.

485
00:24:30,871 --> 00:24:35,191
Speaker 4: Jada Weasel's a sick one. Becca Hatch Kilroy.

486
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's there's here you say, yeah.

487
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Speaker 1: Thank you, and a question down the front.

488
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Speaker 6: Hi, my name is Tika. I'm a good ditch. Mara

489
00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:47,551
Speaker 6: woman came up from that nam.

490
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to ask.

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Speaker 6: It kind of plays off the first question. How do

492
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Speaker 6: you navigate going through spaces that weren't traditionally created with

493
00:24:57,351 --> 00:25:01,071
Speaker 6: mob in mind and feeling like you belong there despite

494
00:25:01,311 --> 00:25:03,111
Speaker 6: how you said that we used to make up one

495
00:25:03,151 --> 00:25:06,031
Speaker 6: hundred bits of this country.

496
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, Like I think I look at it,

497
00:25:09,031 --> 00:25:10,311
Speaker 4: it's not do I belong there?

498
00:25:10,351 --> 00:25:12,631
Speaker 3: So do they belong with me? You know what I mean?

499
00:25:12,711 --> 00:25:14,511
Speaker 4: I walk into these rooms like I'm going to do

500
00:25:14,591 --> 00:25:16,231
Speaker 4: this regardless whether you're there or not.

501
00:25:16,231 --> 00:25:19,071
Speaker 3: Just up to you. If you're going better bring some

502
00:25:19,111 --> 00:25:19,591
Speaker 3: dollars with.

503
00:25:19,591 --> 00:25:20,871
Speaker 4: You if you do, because a lot of it we

504
00:25:20,991 --> 00:25:22,111
Speaker 4: got to eat.

505
00:25:22,631 --> 00:25:27,271
Speaker 3: Yeah again, Yeah again, it's that one. It's that.

506
00:25:28,751 --> 00:25:32,351
Speaker 4: Ongoing commitment, that long term stuffter you know, the longevity

507
00:25:32,351 --> 00:25:34,951
Speaker 4: and if I can't can't see that then, Yeah, they

508
00:25:35,031 --> 00:25:39,951
Speaker 4: weren't right for the journey, so I yeah, I hope they.

509
00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:41,111
Speaker 1: That's a great way to wrap up this.

510
00:25:41,191 --> 00:25:44,031
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother, we could be going for another hour

511
00:25:44,111 --> 00:25:44,871
Speaker 2: or two, but I know you've.

512
00:25:44,751 --> 00:25:47,991
Speaker 1: Got places to go. Big shout out to Larroy.

513
00:25:48,671 --> 00:25:52,631
Speaker 2: My kids biggest Leroy fans and rang my nephew he

514
00:25:52,751 --> 00:25:55,311
Speaker 2: was playing for Sydney Kings and said, I know you

515
00:25:55,391 --> 00:26:00,031
Speaker 2: know LARROI how about getting some tickets so my kids

516
00:26:00,031 --> 00:26:02,831
Speaker 2: can go see him. It was a coal that gave

517
00:26:02,911 --> 00:26:05,191
Speaker 2: us some tickets to see Larroy, So my kids first

518
00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:08,551
Speaker 2: ever concert was in a box at a Core Stadium.

519
00:26:09,231 --> 00:26:12,111
Speaker 2: But because we couldn't meet him that night, he literally said,

520
00:26:12,111 --> 00:26:14,951
Speaker 2: if you get to the Brisbane show, I'll make sure

521
00:26:14,951 --> 00:26:17,351
Speaker 2: that your names are on the door and can you

522
00:26:17,351 --> 00:26:20,351
Speaker 2: can meet out And he did. He actually kept his

523
00:26:20,431 --> 00:26:23,151
Speaker 2: promise and my kids we had to fly to Brisbane

524
00:26:23,151 --> 00:26:26,591
Speaker 2: then and go meet Larroy. But talk about a lad

525
00:26:26,711 --> 00:26:30,311
Speaker 2: from the community that hasn't forgotten where he comes from.

526
00:26:30,311 --> 00:26:32,751
Speaker 2: That another young brother says, Hey, my auntie's coming with

527
00:26:32,791 --> 00:26:33,471
Speaker 2: five kids.

528
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Speaker 1: Can you meet him because.

529
00:26:35,111 --> 00:26:36,671
Speaker 2: They want to get a photo with you, And he

530
00:26:36,751 --> 00:26:39,351
Speaker 2: made it happen the first time failed that's all right

531
00:26:39,351 --> 00:26:41,631
Speaker 2: for the second time pulled it off.

532
00:26:41,751 --> 00:26:44,031
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's exactly the thing with him.

533
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Speaker 4: He doesn't forget where he comes from and you know

534
00:26:46,791 --> 00:26:48,471
Speaker 4: all of that, Like I used to buy him plems

535
00:26:48,631 --> 00:26:50,231
Speaker 4: him and his little brother Oz, you know.

536
00:26:50,231 --> 00:26:53,751
Speaker 3: And he'll still reach out even before he left and

537
00:26:53,791 --> 00:26:55,991
Speaker 3: became you know who everyone knows him has.

538
00:26:55,991 --> 00:27:00,151
Speaker 4: Today we went to a show together Wu Tang and

539
00:27:00,591 --> 00:27:02,831
Speaker 4: straight after school so we go to wines.

540
00:27:03,031 --> 00:27:06,311
Speaker 3: He drops his fool bag off. Two weeks later flies

541
00:27:06,351 --> 00:27:08,391
Speaker 3: out to America and becomes the kid ler Roy. He's

542
00:27:08,391 --> 00:27:08,871
Speaker 3: school back.

543
00:27:08,871 --> 00:27:13,631
Speaker 1: Still there, humble beginnings.

544
00:27:13,711 --> 00:27:18,231
Speaker 2: Yeah, my brother will look I hope that all of

545
00:27:18,271 --> 00:27:22,591
Speaker 2: you enjoyed this amazing yarn. I feel like every time

546
00:27:22,631 --> 00:27:25,951
Speaker 2: I sit down, especially with my own mob, and just

547
00:27:26,071 --> 00:27:30,231
Speaker 2: yarn about who we are, what we do, things that

548
00:27:30,271 --> 00:27:32,151
Speaker 2: you're getting up to, and I'm sure there's a lot more.

549
00:27:32,551 --> 00:27:33,191
Speaker 1: Stay tuned.

550
00:27:33,231 --> 00:27:37,471
Speaker 2: You can listen to Nookie Sunday nights on Blackout and

551
00:27:37,511 --> 00:27:39,991
Speaker 2: I love it. What is it playing tunes when you're lapping?

552
00:27:40,231 --> 00:27:44,711
Speaker 3: You just lapping the streetsing tag line?

553
00:27:44,871 --> 00:27:47,431
Speaker 2: I was just like, this is like one of my

554
00:27:47,471 --> 00:27:50,511
Speaker 2: older brothers having a yarn. So if you haven't had

555
00:27:50,551 --> 00:27:55,031
Speaker 2: listened to Sunday Nights predominantly averaged on music and all

556
00:27:55,071 --> 00:27:56,871
Speaker 2: those names that you just read it off, I'm pretty

557
00:27:56,871 --> 00:27:58,031
Speaker 2: sure that you probably.

558
00:27:58,231 --> 00:27:59,991
Speaker 1: You play them on Triple Jay.

559
00:28:00,591 --> 00:28:04,791
Speaker 2: Otherwise, jump online and hit this brother up solid. So

560
00:28:04,831 --> 00:28:06,991
Speaker 2: thank you for coming in. Thank you, I've being part

561
00:28:07,031 --> 00:28:08,591
Speaker 2: of this amazing podcast.

562
00:28:08,791 --> 00:28:11,991
Speaker 4: Yeah, well again, like black as women exist if ones

563
00:28:12,111 --> 00:28:14,511
Speaker 4: for people like your nan and your dad and that

564
00:28:14,591 --> 00:28:17,871
Speaker 4: log I never met your old men, but everywhere Uncle

565
00:28:17,911 --> 00:28:20,711
Speaker 4: Tiger was the man. You know, solid reputation everywhere, so

566
00:28:21,111 --> 00:28:22,991
Speaker 4: it's mad if I only get the link with you mob,

567
00:28:23,071 --> 00:28:25,991
Speaker 4: and yeah.

568
00:28:24,711 --> 00:28:27,791
Speaker 2: Thank you full circle. So look on that note, I

569
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Speaker 2: hope you've enjoyed this episode.

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Speaker 1: Until next time. Bye for now.

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Speaker 2: If you'd like any more on today's guest, please visit

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Speaker 2: our show notes in the episode description. A big shout

573
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Speaker 2: out to all you Deadly Mob and allies who continue

574
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Speaker 2: to listen, watch, and support our podcast.

575
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Speaker 1: Your feedback means the world.

576
00:28:49,511 --> 00:28:52,751
Speaker 2: You can rate and review the podcast on Apple and Spotify,

577
00:28:53,031 --> 00:28:55,871
Speaker 2: or even head to our socials and YouTube channel and

578
00:28:55,951 --> 00:28:56,751
Speaker 2: drop us a line.

579
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Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: The Black Magic Woman podcast is produced by Clint Curtis.

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Speaker 4: They did to be s