Speaker 1: Oh oh wow. I'm like, I have had to cut.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people do struggle to talk
Speaker 2: about sex because people.
Speaker 1: Are worried that they're not normal.
Speaker 2: There is also, especially in porn, a big focus on
Speaker 2: male pleasure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like sketching a vagina and glitterist and
Speaker 3: then she was just like, yeah, so this is what
Speaker 3: you need to do. It makes it more pleasurable for
Speaker 3: the partner, and I just froze up.
Speaker 4: I'm always always be careful those.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 5: I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby. Welcome to It's Layered podcast.
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Speaker 3: we're recording in studio today in Melbourne.
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Speaker 5: still going with our soft Girl era done by Pink
Speaker 5: Lady Picnic. Yeah, today is a special episode, don't you
Speaker 5: reckon RMB.
Speaker 3: I really think it's a long overdue episode. I mean
Speaker 3: we're six seasons in right, and we have not talked
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 1: We've heard you at all.
Speaker 5: We've heard you further requests, we heard that, and finally
Speaker 5: today we're gonna delve deeper into six Let's talk about sex,
Speaker 5: Baby let's talk about you and me. I had to
Speaker 5: for our special guest, Laura Mianna if you don't know,
Speaker 5: loves to go into song, so just roll with her
Speaker 5: when she does. But Laura is an experienced sex therapist
Speaker 5: and educator. She's passionate about breaking down sexual stigmas and
Speaker 5: opening conversations that foster deeper learning of one's own sexuality
Speaker 5: and desires. Her approach to sex therapy is empathetic, trauma informed,
Speaker 5: and person entered.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: Laura founded Miano Clinical Sexology, but her work also spans
Speaker 3: the sexual wellness space. She co founded Melbourne based sexual
Speaker 3: wellness brand Posmo. Laura uses Posmo as a platform to
Speaker 3: empower people to embrace a unique experience of sexuality.
Speaker 4: So we are so thrilled that you could be here
Speaker 4: with us, Laura.
Speaker 3: I think for us it was really important to have
Speaker 3: a sexual therapist so that we can have a really
Speaker 3: meaningful conversation around it, have some fun, and learn a
Speaker 3: little bit about your work so that we can destigmatize
Speaker 3: the conversations around sex.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, thank you for having me. I was so excited.
Speaker 5: How would you describe the work that you do and
Speaker 5: how you got into it?
Speaker 1: Well, how I got into it.
Speaker 2: I think from a young age, I always felt quite
Speaker 2: comfortable talking about sex.
Speaker 1: My mom would always kind of make little.
Speaker 2: Cheeky jokes about sex, and it was something that behind
Speaker 2: closed doors it was always safe to talk about.
Speaker 1: There was a safe space. But when I was in.
Speaker 2: High school, I really loved hip hop music and R
Speaker 2: and B and a lot of it can be quite sexual.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and Little Kim was actually.
Speaker 2: Do you remember, And I remember her music was all
Speaker 2: about sexual empowerment, especially for women, and I really loved it.
Speaker 2: I feel like she had a really great message, and yeah,
Speaker 2: from a young age, just made me really inspired to
Speaker 2: push a similar message that women can own their sexuality
Speaker 2: and advocate for it and it's just as important as
Speaker 2: everyone else's.
Speaker 1: Yes. Agree. And I think you mentioned something.
Speaker 3: Your mom was your safe space, and she created a
Speaker 3: safe environment, and I think a lot of us we
Speaker 3: didn't have that, at least I never had that growing up,
Speaker 3: which then brings the question, and I guess I'm kind
Speaker 3: of alluding to it, but I'd love to hear from
Speaker 3: your perspective why you think sex is so often difficult
Speaker 3: to talk about and it's a difficult topic for discussing
Speaker 3: with friends or family in some households.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think firstly, we kind of tell
Speaker 2: people it's not okay to talk about sex. You know,
Speaker 2: when when one person tries to talk about sex, whether
Speaker 2: it's at home or with friends or at school, people
Speaker 2: are often met with a bit of a shutdown because
Speaker 2: it makes the other person uncomfortable. So we're really just
Speaker 2: never taught the skills to be able to talk about sex.
Speaker 2: But it is interesting because what I've found in my
Speaker 2: therapy sessions is because it becomes such a safe open
Speaker 2: space to talk about sex, the moment you actually provide
Speaker 2: that for people, they pick up on the skill really quickly.
Speaker 4: Yeah okay, wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that safe space is never really offered in real life. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's crazy because I think like even amongst friends,
Speaker 5: we like people don't know about Like I mean we
Speaker 5: in my friendship group, you have this thing called Kusy's
Speaker 5: Corner shout out to you, QUIZI, and he like loves
Speaker 5: to ask people like what they're going through and a
Speaker 5: lot of it ends up being sexual even just like
Speaker 5: how often that people having sex in a week?
Speaker 1: Like what's the norm? I suppose?
Speaker 5: And you can tell even that we can share about
Speaker 5: everything and anything else, but when it comes to that,
Speaker 5: people kind of almost shut down or we need liquid
Speaker 5: courage to go there.
Speaker 1: It's just so strange. Yeah, yeah, could.
Speaker 3: I ask if you could give us like an idea
Speaker 3: of how to the skill or what kind of skill
Speaker 3: is required, or how to talk about it better? You know,
Speaker 3: we understand like a safe stacee of feeling comfortable as
Speaker 3: you you know, in your friendship group, but like what
Speaker 3: should we how do we go into it? You know,
Speaker 3: as like bringing it up? Because I'm like, how even start?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you ask? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess I could start with you being open about
Speaker 2: your own sex life.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of setting that standard.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people do struggle to talk
Speaker 2: about sex because people are worried that they're not normal.
Speaker 2: But everyone is so varied and so different. So yeah,
Speaker 2: just opening up about your experiences and also appreciating that
Speaker 2: it is normal because everyone's experience is normal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what is normal? Yeah? Exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: If there's one misconception or one myth you want to
Speaker 5: debunk today about sex, what is it and why?
Speaker 1: Oh what is it?
Speaker 2: And like okay, well I'd say one myth would be that.
Speaker 2: I guess sex needs to follow like a kind of formula.
Speaker 2: I think people don't outwardly say that, you know, people
Speaker 2: don't outwardly say it needs to follow a formula formula,
Speaker 2: but people internalize that a lot from cultural messages, from porn,
Speaker 2: from movies, and yeah, there's this idea that it needs
Speaker 2: to start with a certain amount of kissing, certain amount
Speaker 2: of for play, penetration. Yeah yeah, yeah, and there's this myth.
Speaker 1: I guess that it needs to look like that, but
Speaker 1: it's really so varied.
Speaker 5: You're so right, right, because even as I think about
Speaker 5: how I approach it, it is like that like a bit
Speaker 5: of full play and a bit of like penetratives, Like
Speaker 5: it's always just that like order you've seen. Yeah, people
Speaker 5: even knowing that, like penetrative sex is not the only sex.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think for women.
Speaker 5: We are always told like, oh, just make the guy
Speaker 5: come and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's your job done. Yeah yeah, because.
Speaker 5: There's so many different Like you know, even if you're
Speaker 5: in your period or whatever, you don't feel like having
Speaker 5: penetrated sex, you can still be intimate with your partner.
Speaker 5: I think that's something that we're just not told enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Sure, I think For me, it's that sex was never
Speaker 3: about me, if that makes sense. There was never like
Speaker 3: a conversation around you're supposed to get pleasure from this,
Speaker 3: you're also supposed to really enjoy it. It kind of
Speaker 3: is just like, Okay, this is how you pleasure your husband.
Speaker 3: So we have this conversation with Amanda how when I
Speaker 3: was younger and I'm putting my people on blast where
Speaker 3: my mom I think I was about to go to
Speaker 3: university and then she just called me into her room
Speaker 3: and she's like, roomby, bring me a paper and a pen.
Speaker 3: So I gave her and then she was like sketching
Speaker 3: a vagina and glitterist and then she was just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so this is what you need to do and then
Speaker 3: it makes it more pleasurable for the partner. And I
Speaker 3: just froze up because I was like, we have never to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've gotten such a loud left to one hundred,
Speaker 5: and she was like, oh, yeah, let your sister know,
Speaker 5: and I was just like, soa what now?
Speaker 4: But even in that, it wasn't so much about me.
Speaker 1: It was more about.
Speaker 4: How to make sure I'm pleasing something.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very male center feels, and I feel like
Speaker 2: that's where we kind of go wrong because sex is
Speaker 2: such a complimentary process.
Speaker 1: The more that you get turned on, the more it turns.
Speaker 2: Them on, And that's when it's a really, really connected experience.
Speaker 2: But when it's more so about you just touching them
Speaker 2: in the right way makes them feel good, and not
Speaker 2: really focusing on what brings you pleasure, you're actually I
Speaker 2: would say.
Speaker 1: It's not going to lead to the best kind of sex.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 3: And if you feel good about yourself and are really
Speaker 3: you feel sexy, you feel confident, I find that is
Speaker 3: the best sex, Like when you feel so good and yeah.
Speaker 5: And relax, RelA, yeah, yeah. Why do you think it
Speaker 5: is that way though? That it is male centered? Do
Speaker 5: you think it is due to porn? Because sometimes I
Speaker 5: feel like even like we might think, okay, you're being
Speaker 5: a bit of a selfish lover, but even the guy thinks, oh,
Speaker 5: this is the way. Like, I feel like the mis
Speaker 5: education is on both ends. Even if your partner is
Speaker 5: trying to be generous, they might not have the roadmap
Speaker 5: on how to be But what are we missing there
Speaker 5: to not get all those skills?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I think the sources of education for sex
Speaker 2: are yeah, porn and movies, and they don't really go
Speaker 2: into all of the details of it and the reality
Speaker 2: of what it can look like, how it is so varied.
Speaker 2: But there is also, especially in porn, a big focus
Speaker 2: on male pleasure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the way that someone would stimulate a woman
Speaker 2: to get her to orgasm is usually not the reality.
Speaker 2: You know, it happens really quickly, and yeah, there's just
Speaker 2: this misinformation around what women's bodies need to reach climax.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I remember, like even in biology or the boys would
Speaker 5: be like, huh, like when the vagina is being shown
Speaker 5: and they're like, even till this day, I think boys
Speaker 5: still have trapped their heads around one of vagina actually
Speaker 5: like looks like so then for them to be able
Speaker 5: to pleasure it is like, but do you find us
Speaker 5: women also might not know how to pleasure ourselves like masturbation.
Speaker 1: How does that? Yeah? Yeah, I think it's it is
Speaker 1: on both ends.
Speaker 2: Both people are kind of misinformed and uneducated around female pleasure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: A lot of the times when I see clients, especially
Speaker 2: when there's maybe mismatch desire in a relationship, when the
Speaker 2: man wants it more than the woman, a lot of
Speaker 2: times it will be that the woman isn't aware of
Speaker 2: what she wants, or she might be kind of aware
Speaker 2: of it and then maybe ask him for it, but
Speaker 2: because it might not seem similar to the poem or
Speaker 2: like the movie kind of secks, both of them will
Speaker 2: actually disqualify it. The man and the woman, they'll both
Speaker 2: kind of just not put too much focus on it
Speaker 2: because she'll think, oh, maybe it's a bit of left center.
Speaker 3: And you're so right about asking for what you want.
Speaker 3: And because I think again maybe male centric. Maybe also
Speaker 3: as women, we are raised to put our needs in
Speaker 3: the back burner in.
Speaker 4: A lot of ways, like in society.
Speaker 3: So then it's like, oh, if I ask for this,
Speaker 3: but learning to articulate that actually I prefer it this
Speaker 3: way or this is where my spot is, or you
Speaker 3: know things like that. I would, if you don't mind,
Speaker 3: would love for you to if you were to speak
Speaker 3: to women, someone who's trying to get past all these
Speaker 3: stigmas that we're in myths we're talking about, I'll say,
Speaker 3: from a female perspective, for now, how do you think
Speaker 3: we can start to really embrace our sexuality and kind
Speaker 3: of get to learn ourselves better.
Speaker 1: And like if you could.
Speaker 3: Say, like top three stake for that, because I think
Speaker 3: it's like, where do you start? Right, If we're not
Speaker 3: having these conversations, all we rely on is TV, maybe
Speaker 3: porn maybe if we even have a conversation with a friend,
Speaker 3: like where do we begin?
Speaker 4: So since you're here, we'd love to hear.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I guess how I would help a client with
Speaker 2: that kind of thing is I would get them to observe,
Speaker 2: just be an observer during sexual experiences for a little
Speaker 2: while and just notice times during sex when they want
Speaker 2: to do something but they don't do it, when they
Speaker 2: do something but they don't really feel like doing it,
Speaker 2: and just kind of observe how they're behaving versus how
Speaker 2: they're feeling, how much their partner, you know, is intertwined
Speaker 2: in that process as well, a sexual partner. And then
Speaker 2: I would ask them, if you were to act on
Speaker 2: some of these things that you want to do or
Speaker 2: you don't want to do, what kind of thoughts come
Speaker 2: up that make it more challenging to do that?
Speaker 1: Like it could be a body image thing.
Speaker 2: It could be that they think their sexual partner is
Speaker 2: going to think they're being too much. It could be
Speaker 2: that they don't want to be viewed as too sexual,
Speaker 2: so everyone's experience with why they hold back will be
Speaker 2: kind of different. So kind of pinpointing what barrier holds
Speaker 2: you back from asserting what you need can be a
Speaker 2: really good point, and then you can kind of pinpoint
Speaker 2: that barrier and then work.
Speaker 1: On that barrier specifically.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, So I think for us a lot
Speaker 5: of times city come from Zimbabwe, it's religion. So our
Speaker 5: just to give you contexts, our background for generalizing most people,
Speaker 5: it's very religious. And then the messaging is okay, you know,
Speaker 5: And obviously that's because it's like, oh, you're meant to
Speaker 5: be a virgin when you get married, and then thus
Speaker 5: that means there is no sexual there's no talk on
Speaker 5: sexual desire, there's no all saved for when you get married.
Speaker 1: Which you know, each to their own.
Speaker 5: But then the thing is, even after you get married,
Speaker 5: we're not even provided with the tools.
Speaker 1: We have these things.
Speaker 5: I mean today we're having some high tea, but we
Speaker 5: have these things called kitchen tea in Zimbabwe. And like
Speaker 5: your aunts come and then all of a sudden, this
Speaker 5: aunt you've never talked to you about anything sexual. It's
Speaker 5: impacting all the sexual wisdom. Obviously, sometimes it's it is comical.
Speaker 5: It's humor filled, but at the same time it's quite
Speaker 5: sad that we save up all.
Speaker 1: This to then finally tell you.
Speaker 5: So it's a lot of information coming in at once
Speaker 5: at the same time, like porn itself is illegal in Zimbabwe,
Speaker 5: so it's like all these things are like cloak and
Speaker 5: dagger and hidden, and it makes it so high because
Speaker 5: I feel like sex is meant to be so open. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but why do that disconnect between sex being such an
Speaker 5: open thing and the where the world operates and makes
Speaker 5: it such a closeted thing. Like why do you think
Speaker 5: there's that disconnect there?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I guess one could be like the history of religion,
Speaker 2: which has kind of traditionally said to abstain and kind
Speaker 2: of not really explore. Yeah, they've kind of promoted the
Speaker 2: idea of not exploring sexuality until it's within a marriage.
Speaker 2: But then yeah, when you're in that marriage, there want
Speaker 2: much information.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The wildest thing we just like, huh And for us,
Speaker 3: I think you grew up being told no boys because
Speaker 3: we're I was, and this is the thing of things
Speaker 3: being kept under wraps in secret. You know, family members,
Speaker 3: cousins who felt pregnant, teenage pregnancies, early pregnancies, but it
Speaker 3: was like no one was telling us about like safe
Speaker 3: sex truly and these things. So it's like the consequences
Speaker 3: of just not talking about it. And then I remember
Speaker 3: having a family meeting and my dad saying, this is
Speaker 3: what happens when you have sex. Girls don't have sex,
Speaker 3: boys wear a condom. I'll never forget that stage. And
Speaker 3: I was like, huh, like make it make sense. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's normal.
Speaker 5: That was normal, and we were brought up so it's like
Speaker 5: if you if you bring a pregnancy in this household,
Speaker 5: it's a huge problem. But the guy can go and
Speaker 5: make someone else pregnant, but that's someone else's daughter too.
Speaker 1: It's such a weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you're just told to abstain, then when
Speaker 2: you get in that situation, you really have no information.
Speaker 5: And I'm sorry abstaining, especially in high school, and that's
Speaker 5: when I met Rumby. You have all these sexual desires
Speaker 5: Pubert starts and you're like, oh my gosh, my boobs
Speaker 5: are growing and I touched my nipples. They're so sensitive. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but it's like what do I do?
Speaker 3: And we were reading and you're romantic, like, oh my gosh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't be feeling this way.
Speaker 1: Reading that was so right.
Speaker 5: Actually, in high school sometimes we would have one novel
Speaker 5: and then we'll go around the whole, so we're all
Speaker 5: getting like our education from whoever the author was shout
Speaker 5: out and the author's out there, because it really was
Speaker 5: just like our only gateway to finding out and knowing
Speaker 5: about sex.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, but now I want us to
Speaker 3: get a little bit more into you and Posmo. How
Speaker 3: and why did you come up with your six concept
Speaker 3: store and like what led to that, because like this
Speaker 3: is so exciting for me us like bring the notepad,
Speaker 3: like let us know. But yeah, how did that journey
Speaker 3: come about? And why was it important for you to
Speaker 3: start that and not just say okay, you can just
Speaker 3: go to it whichever's store.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, can tell us a bit about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it started when I was studying my master's to
Speaker 2: become a psyxologist, and I was reading a lot on
Speaker 2: this theory called postmodern sexuality, where it kind of talks
Speaker 2: about how I mean, it's a bit of a radical theory,
Speaker 2: but they say that they don't think people should have
Speaker 2: sexual orientations because it categorizes people. Again, it's very radical,
Speaker 2: So it's not that you know, it's can't really be
Speaker 2: applied to everything. But I really like this the way
Speaker 2: that they say that everyone's sexuality is so complex, so
Speaker 2: to put it into a category is kind of simplifying it.
Speaker 2: It also leads to like disadvantage as well, because you know,
Speaker 2: people will make assumptions based on you know, who someone is,
Speaker 2: based on the gender that.
Speaker 1: They're attracted to.
Speaker 2: So I really liked this theory, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: create a store that was founded on that.
Speaker 1: I also have a history, like a.
Speaker 2: Background in fashion, so yeah, I wanted to create a
Speaker 2: sex toy store that applied similar kind of esthetic principles
Speaker 2: to the sexual honor space and make it really pretty
Speaker 2: and yeah, rather than.
Speaker 3: I love that, Yeah, And like what would be a starter,
Speaker 3: Like if I walked in or contacted you and said,
Speaker 3: I'm looking to get some toys.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Website, Yeah, what would your recommendation be? And I would
Speaker 3: love for you to also talk about it in the
Speaker 3: context of sometimes I think we feel if you are
Speaker 3: in a committed partnership, you don't need any toys or
Speaker 3: it's like the person is supposed to be your full
Speaker 3: place enough, which I don't agree with. But like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so like please talk us through that, Like what would
Speaker 3: your recommendation be? Like when you walk in, Like what
Speaker 3: are you looking for? I mean, obviously everyone's different, but
Speaker 3: like out of start or peers?
Speaker 5: Can I just say how excited Ruby looks like.
Speaker 1: We've been waiting? That's all I say. Listening, But.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I would ask what kind of stimulation
Speaker 2: you like?
Speaker 1: Do you prefer internal? Do you prefer external?
Speaker 2: So vaginal literal LaBier, you know, like on the lips
Speaker 2: of the volvera.
Speaker 1: Do you prefer double penetration?
Speaker 2: Sorry, not dual stimulation sorry, where it's internal and external,
Speaker 2: there's also anal stimulation to full body stimulation. So I
Speaker 2: would ask of those things what you prefer, and then
Speaker 2: based on that, you know, do you like quite strong
Speaker 2: stimulation or something more gentle, because that could vary with
Speaker 2: the kinds of vibrations a toy can give. Some toys
Speaker 2: don't vibrate at all. They their glass or metal toys.
Speaker 2: We have a few that don't have any vibrations, but
Speaker 2: they feel really nice with like a silicon lube. So yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not as overpowering as a vibrator, but.
Speaker 1: It still is like this external tool to your hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'm liked to.
Speaker 3: Cut literally, and yeah, I think you know to that point,
Speaker 3: if you can just elaborate on you know what, how
Speaker 3: it can enhance sexual experiences with partners as well as
Speaker 3: an individual pleasure yourself, if maybe you can just talk
Speaker 3: on that, because I don't think we hear that enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean people, some partners will be
Speaker 2: concerned that a vibrator or a sex toy will replace them.
Speaker 2: But during sex, a person can touch you in lots
Speaker 2: of different places that you're not expecting. They can kiss you,
Speaker 2: they can look into your eyes. Yeah, they can moan
Speaker 2: and you can hear that. You can touch their hair,
Speaker 2: you can touch their skin, you can feel their skin
Speaker 2: on your skin. They can do so many different things.
Speaker 2: That's simply one toy. As much as I'm an advocate
Speaker 2: for sex toys, sex toys.
Speaker 1: Just can't do that same have that same kind of experience. True,
Speaker 1: So it's.
Speaker 2: Definitely an additional tool, but in no way can it
Speaker 2: replace the human experience of another person. Yeah, and speaking
Speaker 2: on human experience, and I know we're talking more from
Speaker 2: a heterosexual lens, but I've noticed and I don't know
Speaker 2: what you've noticed in your experience do you reckon our
Speaker 2: sexuality changes as we I mean, we've seen some celebrities
Speaker 2: we start maybe in a heterosexual union and they're now
Speaker 2: maybe they're in not again. It's like oh, and I
Speaker 2: feel like humans always try to box people, like it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you're straight, Oh you're a lesbian? Are your But what's
Speaker 2: your idea in and around sexuality?
Speaker 1: And it's evolving?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very much what postponder sexuality also talks about
Speaker 2: that it's very fluid and it will you know, it
Speaker 2: can be representative of what's kind of happening in your life.
Speaker 2: The broader contacts. There was some research done in the sixties.
Speaker 2: I think it was where they found I can't remember
Speaker 2: the exact stats, but they found that it's quite common
Speaker 2: for people to have their real life sexual experiences not
Speaker 2: match what their sexuality like. The gender that they identify
Speaker 2: with in terms of sexuality not a line. They might
Speaker 2: be straight but have gay experiences or same sex experiences.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why I really love this theory and
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to credit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it brought everyone together rather than having something that's
Speaker 2: just talking.
Speaker 5: People you just meet and the sexual energy is then
Speaker 5: you're like, wait, hang on, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: But it's like simple exude sexual like energy and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 5: why am I to you right now?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: But like you're not maybe typically you think that's not
Speaker 5: quote unquote your type. Yeah, yeah, And I just find
Speaker 5: that always so fascinating. So I think if we let
Speaker 5: go of all the labels and all the boxes, I
Speaker 5: really wonder how we would be sexual journeys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, far less restrictions. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Are there any other upcoming projects you have this year
Speaker 5: or anything you want to share with us things we
Speaker 5: should watch out because obviously we're going to share your socials,
Speaker 5: be going to share pod people can find you. Is
Speaker 5: there anything else you'd want us to keep an eye
Speaker 5: out for.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've just launched my practice, my sex therapy practice,
Speaker 2: so I'm planning to yeah, push a lot of kind
Speaker 2: of sexual education through there. I'll be releasing a course
Speaker 2: this month but in January on sexual exploration through sensuality,
Speaker 2: so like through the census wow sorry side sound all
Speaker 2: of the five sensors. And then with POSMO, we are
Speaker 2: planning to do Melbourne based events like dating events and.
Speaker 1: So good and things like that. Yeah, oh wow, wonderful.
Speaker 3: And could you tell us where we can find you
Speaker 3: on the socials and your winsor where we can put
Speaker 3: things in the cart or you know order. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, in terms of socials, my sexology account is Laura
Speaker 2: Miano Sexology. You can follow posmot Underscore Posmo Underscore, but
Speaker 2: to book in for a session, it's Mianoclinical Sexology dot
Speaker 2: com dot a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to put things into the cart. This has
Speaker 1: been such a treat.
Speaker 3: I was also like, I need to respect Laura's time.
Speaker 3: It's so great to have you just like helping to
Speaker 3: debunk a lot. And I know there's a lot we
Speaker 3: need to work through as a people, as you know,
Speaker 3: but I think you are doing the Lord's work and
Speaker 3: I think joy and pleasure should be for everybody.
Speaker 5: Definitely, the way my eyebrows went up and said double penetration,
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, I know, I need to
Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, why I react like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really fun. Good.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you so much for
Speaker 3: listening to another episode of its late podcast and we
Speaker 3: will see you on the next episode.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys.
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