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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 5: I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby. Welcome to It's Layered podcast.

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Speaker 3: We are under the Blackcast Network POWD by iHeart, and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's aid Bittersweet Studios and our beautiful setup is

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Speaker 5: still going with our soft Girl era done by Pink

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Speaker 5: Lady Picnic. Yeah, today is a special episode, don't you

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Speaker 3: I really think it's a long overdue episode. I mean

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Speaker 3: we're six seasons in right, and we have not talked

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Speaker 1: We've heard you at all.

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Speaker 5: We've heard you further requests, we heard that, and finally

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Speaker 5: today we're gonna delve deeper into six Let's talk about sex,

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Speaker 5: Baby let's talk about you and me. I had to

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Speaker 5: for our special guest, Laura Mianna if you don't know,

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 3: The wildest thing we just like, huh And for us,

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Speaker 5: That was normal, and we were brought up so it's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you're just told to abstain, then when

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Speaker 3: And we were reading and you're romantic, like, oh my gosh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Actually, in high school sometimes we would have one novel

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, but now I want us to

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Speaker 2: So I really liked this theory, and I wanted to

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Speaker 2: Background in fashion, so yeah, I wanted to create a

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Speaker 3: I love that, Yeah, And like what would be a starter,

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Speaker 5: Can I just say how excited Ruby looks like.

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Speaker 1: We've been waiting? That's all I say. Listening, But.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I would ask what kind of stimulation

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well, I mean people, some partners will be

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Speaker 2: That's simply one toy. As much as I'm an advocate

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's very much what postponder sexuality also talks about

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Speaker 2: match what their sexuality like. The gender that they identify

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Speaker 2: with in terms of sexuality not a line. They might

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why I really love this theory and

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Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to credit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it brought everyone together rather than having something that's

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Speaker 2: just talking.

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Speaker 5: People you just meet and the sexual energy is then

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Speaker 5: you're like, wait, hang on, like you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: But it's like simple exude sexual like energy and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: why am I to you right now?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: But like you're not maybe typically you think that's not

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Speaker 5: quote unquote your type. Yeah, yeah, And I just find

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Speaker 5: that always so fascinating. So I think if we let

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Speaker 5: go of all the labels and all the boxes, I

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Speaker 5: really wonder how we would be sexual journeys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, far less restrictions. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 5: Are there any other upcoming projects you have this year

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Speaker 5: or anything you want to share with us things we

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Speaker 5: should watch out because obviously we're going to share your socials,

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Speaker 5: be going to share pod people can find you. Is

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Speaker 5: there anything else you'd want us to keep an eye

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Speaker 5: out for.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I've just launched my practice, my sex therapy practice,

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Speaker 2: so I'm planning to yeah, push a lot of kind

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Speaker 2: of sexual education through there. I'll be releasing a course

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Speaker 2: this month but in January on sexual exploration through sensuality,

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Speaker 2: so like through the census wow sorry side sound all

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Speaker 2: of the five sensors. And then with POSMO, we are

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Speaker 2: planning to do Melbourne based events like dating events and.

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Speaker 1: So good and things like that. Yeah, oh wow, wonderful.

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Speaker 3: And could you tell us where we can find you

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Speaker 3: on the socials and your winsor where we can put

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Speaker 3: things in the cart or you know order. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, in terms of socials, my sexology account is Laura

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Speaker 2: Miano Sexology. You can follow posmot Underscore Posmo Underscore, but

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Speaker 2: to book in for a session, it's Mianoclinical Sexology dot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and to put things into the cart. This has

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Speaker 1: been such a treat.

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Speaker 3: I was also like, I need to respect Laura's time.

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Speaker 3: It's so great to have you just like helping to

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Speaker 3: debunk a lot. And I know there's a lot we

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Speaker 3: need to work through as a people, as you know,

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Speaker 3: but I think you are doing the Lord's work and

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Speaker 3: I think joy and pleasure should be for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Definitely, the way my eyebrows went up and said double penetration,

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, I know, I need to

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Speaker 5: like yeah, yeah, why I react like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been really fun. Good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: listening to another episode of its late podcast and we

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Speaker 3: will see you on the next episode.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys.

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