1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Moon Age Daydream is in cinemas September fifteen, the much 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: anticipated David Bowie documentary. The film premiere at carn in May, 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and critics have been pretty much unanimous. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: In their praise. Director Brett Morgan is with us, good morning, Brett, 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: good morning. Well we saw it, and I mean, congratulations. 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: It is a force. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: I felt like a nuclear bomb had gone off in 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: my face in the. 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Best possible way. I mean, it was so loud in 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: the cinema and the ship the chair was shaking, and 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 2: it was awesome. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: It was like a ride. Yeah, incredible ride. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: We're Bowie fans, by the way, this was you know wow. 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 4: I love that description of ride. I started making films. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 4: I used to describe each film when a reporter would 16 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 4: ask me, how would you describe the film? And I 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: would like to say, if Disneyland had a ride, Robert 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 4: Evans the Kids Season Picture is the ride? Yeah. So 19 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: I do you think the Mooni's day dream? Is it 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: that the good metaphor that. 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: Hard that is the ultimate thrill? Rod? 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 5: Can I ask you when you first spoke, when you 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 5: spoke to David, what was it fifteen years ago or so? 24 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 5: Do you think the thing the project you were talking 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 5: with David about that didn't eventually at the time, how 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 5: different would that have been to the end result what 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 5: you ended up with in twenty two one. 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 4: Hundred and eighty degrees. And the project that I was 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 4: presenting David in two thousand and seven would have been 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 4: a film that he would have been performing in for 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: ninety minutes, right. It would have required a global fifty 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: days shoot, and at the time he was at semi retirement, 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 4: so the timing didn't work out. All things happened for 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 4: a reason, and I wasn't evolved enough I think back 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 4: then to make the film that I ultimately made. You know, 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 4: there's a number of things had happened. I had a 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: heart attack and was in a coma for a week 38 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 4: shortly before I started work on the film, and while 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: I was in recovery, I started ingesting all of this 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 4: Bowie interviews. And while I was expecting to hear about 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 4: how he wrote all these wonderful songs, what I was 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: really resonated with me was his kind of life philosophy, 43 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: which was, you know, mainly about how to make the 44 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: most of each and every day, and that really resonated, 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: and that's sort of what the film ended up becoming 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 4: a life affirming journey that is very much filled with 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: these rich and wonderful nuances and LFE device from David 48 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: which will hopefully, you know, leave people in a better 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: place than they walked in. 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: David Bo's estate has been very very stern on who 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: it's and thank goodness, who it's going to allow to 52 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, to use his music to make something that's 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: sanctioned by them. How have they reacted to this? 54 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: His family, the. 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: Estate has been so so unbelievably supportive from the get go. 56 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 4: When I landed the job, I had a meeting with 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: the executor of his state, bill'sis but who had been 58 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: with David since eighty three, and Bill said to me, listen, 59 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: David's not here to authorize and improve this film. So 60 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: this film is never going to be David Bowie on 61 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: David Bowie. It's going to be Brett Morgan on David Bowie. 62 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: And that is you need to embrace that, and that 63 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: is not you know, there were no restrictions limitations. I 64 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: showed them the film, and there were you know a 65 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: couple of things that they said they wished, you know, 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: weren't in the film, which I suppose on a certain level, 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 4: you know, it is a good thing, and you know 68 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: there's a weird thing that happens with documentaries. I was 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: just talking to as If about this. He did be 70 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: Amy film, you know, which was heavily criticized because Amy's 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: fathered in like the film, and you know, I was saying, 72 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of funny because would you want 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: in his father. 74 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: Exactly? 75 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 4: Well, it's sort of a badge of honors, but we're 76 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: very blessed with incredible support from the estate. 77 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: Well you know, you say, it's Brett Morgan and David Bowie. 78 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: But there is something that I came away really strongly 79 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: from the film with, and I'll give you a little 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: fawning warning for a moment, but I felt like, well 81 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: that just negated any need for anyone to ever make 82 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: any kind of Bohemian Rhapsody esque biopic, because I immediately 83 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: realized that no one can tell David's story other than 84 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: sort of David through his words and visions and images 85 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: any better than it was just told you couldn't do, 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, a movie with someone playing David now, and 87 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: I don't think anyway. 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: I'll share another funny story with you. About a year 89 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: and a half into working on the film, Bohemian Rhapsody 90 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 4: popped out, and I saw the film fourteen times. Well 91 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 4: I just want but I went because of the music, 92 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: Like I am, hearing that music mixed that way in 93 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 4: Dolby Atmos was exhilarating. And you know, it's a it's 94 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 4: a simple film, it's a sing along film. It's it's 95 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: it's it's very serviceable. It does a wonderful job achieving 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 4: its goals. And I went back and met with Bill, 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 4: the executor, and I said, look, I'm trying to figure 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: out how we should go about this. I said, you know, 99 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 4: on one hand, I think that we can sort of 100 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: do this like Bohemian Rhapsody, where it's incredibly simple and 101 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: easy and spoon fed and sing along and will probably gross, 102 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: you know, a very significant amount of money. Yes, Or 103 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 4: I could kind of create the film more in David's 104 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: style and manners, which, while he did write a number 105 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: of pop songs, his general approach was it was a 106 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: little more kind of challenging and old. And Bill looked 107 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,239 Speaker 4: at me and goes, well. 108 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: That's your problem, had right, And the. 109 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 4: Answer was what you just said, which is you can't 110 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: do Bohemian. The Bohemian Rhapsody film is I think what 111 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 4: we ended up doing, which is not Bohemian rapsy. It's 112 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 4: the Bowie version, which is he tells the story himself, 113 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: and it's it's a film that is as mysterious and 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 4: hopefully illuminating as David Bowie was in life. 115 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, Bret watching watching this one, as I called it, 116 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 5: the ride one hundred and forty minute rode, which is incredible. 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: I'm thinking, there's so much material here to put that 118 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 5: all together would have been so hard to collide and 119 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: get clearances for. But David helped you. They didn't he 120 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: because he was collecting David in the end. 121 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was. You know, when we started 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 4: the film, the state granted me access and provided me 123 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: with all the content to their archives. There were millions 124 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: of assets in there, and I spent two years screening 125 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: for everything to try to extract the best and the 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 4: brightest and the most vibrant material to to basically light 127 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 4: up the screens. You know, this was a we're living 128 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: in a moment where very few documentaries and are being 129 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 4: attended to and cinemas, you know, coming out of the 130 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 4: pandemic and everything. Mooney's Dating was designed from conception to 131 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 4: be a theatrical event, whether it's a climacu or standard theater, 132 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: it's designed to be seen with a crowd in a 133 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 4: pat you know, in a full cinema. Yeah, so we're 134 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: thrilled that on the fifteenth it's opening I think in 135 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: two hundred plus screens throughout the country and we're just overjoyed. 136 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: But Bowie lived in Australia for a period of time 137 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: in the late seventies and eighties. 138 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, he mentioned it in the film. 139 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 140 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: And when we started the film, I asked the estate, 141 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: you know, which territories around the globe were particularly strong 142 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 4: for David, and first thing out of the mouse was Australia. 143 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 4: It may be bigger here than in the UK. So 144 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 4: we are the reception here so far as this has 145 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 4: been extraordinary, thrilled to unleasha. 146 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid feeling such a sense of 147 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: really Daggy, such a sense of ownership over that Let's 148 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: Dance album and period because he made the videos in 149 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: out Back Australia. 150 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: And everything, and we've just felt like we had arrived. 151 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, we bit of a home away from home for him. 152 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 153 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Well, Brett, we could talk to you all day about 154 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: Bowie and about this film, but you're a man very 155 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,119 Speaker 1: much in demand at the moment. 156 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: So we have to sadly let you go. 157 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: But as we said, as Bowie fans, we loved it. 158 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 3: Buzzing as we walked out. We just want to say 159 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: thank you man. 160 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: We wouldn't do anything for the rest of the day 161 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: put together and. 162 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: Have that that kind of assault in our senses was magical. 163 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 3: We have being fanous. 164 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 165 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for talking to us. 166 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 5: Brand Man, and we're glad that you survived and you 167 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 5: got through this much. Yes, the three minutes of flat 168 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 5: lowing Man. We've got to make the beautiful project all 169 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 5: the best. 170 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, thank you, Bye bye bye