1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: This is the Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Coilson, 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: where Luke and Susie our husband and wife radio team 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: with three young boys. This is the podcast for the 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants some answers. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Now take my hand suits Yeah, that's lovely, because you 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: know my love language is physical touch. 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 3: Yes. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: So this was a big thing for us when we 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: first started dating because you when we had our first fight, 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: the last thing you wanted to do was put your 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: hand on my shoulder or do anything. And everything I 12 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: needed was so desperately for you to put your hand 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: on my shoulder say everything's still okay. And we realized 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: this whole love language thing was big for us as 15 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: trying to form our relationship. Imagine how important it is 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: for developing little human beings like our kids. 17 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Do you know your child's love language. It's 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: a big question and we're going to have a look 19 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: at it with doctor Justin Coulson from Happy Families dot 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: Com tod Au, how are you. 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: Justin Allo, Susie high work, I'm great? How are you? 22 00:00:58,120 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 23 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Really well? Thank you? 24 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: One of your love LOLNGG? 25 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are yours? 26 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: All of them? Yeah, I'm high. Needs. 27 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: I've always said that. I've always said that doctor Justin Corson. 28 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, mine's a given and it could be anyone on 29 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: any given day. 30 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Susie is only one of them, but it changes 31 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: every day. But there's no doubt physical touches is my 32 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 2: number one question about it. 33 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: But we don't often. We got the book for our 34 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: wedding a wedding present, the five Love Languages, but I 35 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: don't know that I have actually applied it to my children. 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the book is he's a pastor in the 37 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: United States. Name is Gary Chapman. Now he doesn't have 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: a psychology qualification, and there's a few things as a 39 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: psychic guy that I just quite they don't quite resonate 40 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: and work perfectly for me. But I've kind of rewritten 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: the love languages a little bit and shifted them around 42 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: a little bit and made them work. I think in 43 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: a way that well, it works better for me, and 44 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: I think works better psychologically. And so basically, instead of 45 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: having these five love languages that he identifies, I argue 46 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: that there are two universal love languages. These are the 47 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: two love languages that every one of us has, whether 48 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: you're a Luke or a Susi or Justin or whatever, 49 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 3: and they are time and understanding. You see, if we 50 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: want our relationships to flourish, we've got to put time 51 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: into them. It's something that I love to share in 52 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 3: the workshops that I present around the country, is that 53 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: just like dollars are the currency of our economy, attention 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: is the currency of our relationship. Yeah. When we have 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: a relationship that is falling apart or that is failing, 56 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: quite often we'll find that at the root of it, 57 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: there's insufficient time being put into it. And if our 58 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: relationships are not good with our kids, it's simply because 59 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 3: we're not giving them enough time. The second universal love 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: language I think we all have is the love language 61 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: of understanding. We all want to be understood. We want 62 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: to be understood more than we want to be loved. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: We want to be understood, and when we're not, we 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 3: get so upset, we feel so frustrated, we feel completely 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: hemmed in and it's like, hang, when you're not listening 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 3: to me, you don't know what I'm saying, you don't 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: know what I'm feeling. And I'll give you example. And 68 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: how bad we are at this is parents. We were 69 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: at an indoor rock climbing center not long ago, and 70 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: my nine year old daughter had climbed to the top 71 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 3: of the rock wall and she was on an automatic ballet. 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 3: So normally, you know, you've got the rope hooked up 73 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: and you've got someone at the bottom and they delay you. 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: That is, they hold the rope so that if you fall, 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: you won't do anything. You just sort of swing out 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: and go back to the wall and you be safe. 77 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: There's nobody at the bottom for the automatic blay. It 78 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: just the ropery tracks up into the roof and then 79 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: you let go of the wall and it catches you 80 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: and lowers you back down. And she was at the 81 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: top of this wall and she was freaking out. She 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: didn't want to let go because she didn't trust that 83 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: the rope would catch her. As she descended to the floor. 84 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: I was at the. 85 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: Bottom saying, Annie, come on, it's not that big a deal. 86 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: Just let go of the wall. It'll catch you. It's okay, 87 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 3: And she's like, Dad, I can't do it. And she 88 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: was freaking out. And I wasn't understanding her particularly well. 89 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I got what was going on cognitively, but 90 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 3: in my heart I wasn't feeling the fear and the 91 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: anxiety that she was feeling, or she was eight meters 92 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: up this wall too scared to let go, and finally 93 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: I said, Annie, I know how scary it is for you. 94 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: I know that it's really hard to trust that the 95 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: rope will catch you, but it will. Trust me, it'll 96 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 3: work out. Let go, And eventually she let go and 97 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 3: she came down to the ground like Overahagen. About ten 98 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: minutes later, I was climbing a different wall and I 99 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: was on auto bilet. I'd never used it before, and 100 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 3: I got to the top and then I realized that 101 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 3: I was in exactly the same position as Annie. I 102 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: had to let go, and I didn't want to. I 103 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: was freaking out, let me tell you. And I had 104 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 3: this sudden realization that I had not fully understood how 105 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: Annie was feeling, and she needed my understanding at that point, 106 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: and I needed some understanding. And I called out to 107 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: the guy that worked I said, if I let go, 108 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,119 Speaker 3: it's just going to catch me, and he just laughed 109 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: and he said, yeah, do it. And I freaked out 110 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: and I let go and it caught me. But it 111 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: was a wonderful reminder that if we don't know how 112 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 3: things are for our children. You know, when they're being 113 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 3: bullied at school and they're really hurting and we say it, 114 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: suck it up, princess, go to school, drink some concrete 115 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: and hard nap. You know, when we say that sort 116 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: of stuff to them, they don't feel understood. And it 117 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 3: is a universal love language. We need it, yeah, so 118 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 3: that we can so that we can function all in 119 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: our relationships. 120 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: So time and understanding are these universal love languages. There 121 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: are three more in your system of love languages. We're 122 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: going to talk about those next. Doctor Justin Coulson our 123 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: guest from Happy Families dot com dot au, asking the 124 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: question do you know your child's love language? 125 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 4: Are you endlessly nagging, shouting, pleading, threatening and demanding that 126 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: your children behave Do you live in a dictatorship where 127 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: the kids are in charge? Time out is not your 128 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: only option. Is an ebook with discipline strategies and ideas 129 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 4: that work, and they work without you carrying a load 130 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: of parental guilt around all day. No more yelling, threatening, 131 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 4: bribing or time outs. From day one, You'll notice the 132 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 4: difference in your children, and they'll notice the difference in you. 133 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: Time out is not your only option. By doctor Justin Coulson, 134 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: available as an ebook and an audiobook at happy families 135 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: dot com dot au. 136 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 2: This is the Happy Families Podcast with Dr Justin Coulson. 137 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 2: We are Lukinsuzi and this is the podcast for time 138 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: poor parents who just want answers. 139 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: Now and today it's all about our children's love language. Now, 140 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: you were talking about, Justin, about how you've kind of 141 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: reframed the five love languages of Gary Chapman to time 142 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: and understanding being universal. We all need those, but there's 143 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: three more that you have there. Can you explain those 144 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: to us? 145 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? So they touch me, tell me, show me they 146 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: touch me. He's a people like Luke. You know, you 147 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: just crave somebody acknowledging your presence by reaching out and 148 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: squeezing your elbow or putting their arm around your shoulder, 149 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 3: or holding your hand or giving you a hug. Touch 150 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: Me's love to snuggle in beare and you just lay 151 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: there and hold onto one another and go, oh, you 152 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 3: know this is wonderful. I love you, and our children 153 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: quite often will be touch mees as well. They love 154 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: to be acknowledged. They love to feel our presence close 155 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: to them. Then we've got to tell me. These are 156 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: the people who love to be told I love you, you're 157 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: special to me, you're wonderful. And there's a lot of 158 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: children who really thrive and really flourish when they get 159 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: that kind of a that kind of verbal acknowledgment that 160 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: they're loved. And of course you know that some kids 161 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: hate that. You know, when you give some kids a 162 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 3: compliment and tell them how much you love them, and 163 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: they just sort of go or squirmy and squish and say, 164 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: don't say stuff like that embarrassing. And then there's the 165 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: show me. These are the ones who love it when 166 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: we give them treats and give them gifts and show 167 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: them by doing things for them. And now, like I 168 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: said earlier, some people are really high maintenance, whether they're 169 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: children or adults, and they're all five. Some people are 170 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: only really just that, you know, the two universal ones 171 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: plus one of those other three. But when we can 172 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: tap in to the love languages of our family, whether 173 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: it's our kids, or whether it's our spouse or even 174 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: our mother in law, and we can express to them 175 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: love in the way that they like it to be 176 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: expressed of them, it's just wonderful for family relationships. 177 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: Our seven year old's been going through a phase justin 178 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: where he's constantly saying to every single day, often multiple 179 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: times a day, you're the best mum ever, and you're 180 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the best dad ever. I love you. And he's very 181 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: verbal in that, and it makes me think he's in 182 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: that phase of discovering what his own love language is. 183 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: That he's using words, and that's showing us that he 184 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: likes words as well. That's what I'm starting to think 185 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: with this little seven year old who's reaching an age 186 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: of reason. 187 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: And one of the five year olds won't let us 188 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: go without a cuddle and everything. Everything's all about touch 189 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 2: with him. It's fascinating to see them unravel. What do you, 190 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: Reckon sues. The three of them aren't give They're. 191 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: All touch me. He's definitely. They're all very cuddly. Oh no, 192 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: maybe less so Ruden. But lastly, touch me and tell me, 193 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: I Reckon. 194 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Rudin's a tell me Yeah. His eyes light up justin 195 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 2: when you praise him and when you acknowledge him, when 196 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: you tell him what a wonderful job, he's just eyes 197 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: just get big and round. He doesn't necessarily say a 198 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: lot back, but he certainly looks for it. 199 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. And you'll also notice that people will demonstrate their 200 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 3: preferred love language by the way that they express love 201 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 3: to others. So if you've got somebody who was always 202 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: telling other people how much they love them, they're probably 203 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 3: a tell me. And quite often in marriages at least, 204 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: you'll find that tell me will marry, touch me or 205 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: show me, And there'll be this incompatibility and the wife 206 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: will say, he never tells me how much he loves me. 207 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 3: He's always just trying to grab hold of me, drives 208 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: me crazy. And the bloke will be saying, she keeps 209 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: on telling me how much she loves me, but she 210 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 3: never really shows me by grabbing hold of me. And 211 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: so we need to watch what our spouses and partners 212 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: are doing and what our kids are doing so that 213 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: we can respond the way they seem to express it 214 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: the most, because that will usually be a really nice 215 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 3: indicator of what their language of love is. 216 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: No doubt, my dad, the Aussie Mail, grew up as 217 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 2: a show me as far as he was concerned. He 218 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: told us every day he loved it when he worked 219 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 2: really hard and put food on the table and did 220 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 2: whatever it needed to do to feed us and to 221 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: house us. And that was his his show me love, 222 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: no question. 223 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 224 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: And then and then we've got to make sure that 225 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: we respond to the to the tell me as well 226 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: by saying thank you. They just if you're a tell 227 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: me and you hear gratitude, oh my goodness, it just 228 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 3: makes everything worthwhile. 229 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: So good. It's good to explore this topic and start 230 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: to actively think about what our children's love languages are 231 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: so that we can make sure they always know that 232 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: they're in a place where they are loved. Dr Justin 233 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Coulson from Happy Families dot com todare you always great 234 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: to catch up? Thanks so much for your time. 235 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: Let's do it again soon. 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